Calling all Sony Alpha users! (Part 3) [Archive]

stan the man

21-01-2009, 17:02

thanks fabs, yes sorry I did mean 8GB. I don't know what RAW or JPG are, I do have an idea what megapixels are.

hi fritter,and welcome :wave:

basically,RAW files are uncompressed,so you can alter/adjust exposure ect in your RAW converter before converting to JPEG file...great if that once in a lifetime shot is under/over exposed...

JPEG's are files which the camera compresses,ie: makes all the choices for you in camera,so you are unable to adjust exposure,white balance etc...so if that once in a lifetime shot is under/over exposed...then it's generally a delete job.

fritter

21-01-2009, 17:10

fabs

21-01-2009, 17:24

wow, thanks Stan. you just opened my eyes. I have the manual and camera here now. Its a whole new avenue I hadn't noticed before. Incidentally I don't like this manual seems very poor for a novice like me.

Anything specific you want to know, just ask here. There are a few A300 users around, but I'm sure it's not that different to the other models in terms of use.

stan the man

21-01-2009, 17:28

wow, thanks Stan. you just opened my eyes. I have the manual and camera here now. Its a whole new avenue I hadn't noticed before. Incidentally I don't like this manual seems very poor for a novice like me.

don't worry...you'll soon get the hang of it,it's just getting decent shots that's the hard bit ;)

the manual isn't that bad really...i vcan thorougly recommend getting bryan peterson's book "understanding exposure",and gary friedmans book on the A200/300 and 350 are highly recommended also :thumbs:

http://www.friedmanarchives.com/alpha350/index.htm

kopite

21-01-2009, 19:43

The understanding exposure book is immense :D

I have bought the digital field guide for my a200 which is really helpful as well as it goes into more detail on what each button on the camera does.

stan the man

21-01-2009, 20:09

so here we go again....sony alpha thread part 3 :D

heidfirst

21-01-2009, 20:48

if you want to cover all bases you can shoot in RAW+JPEG (& indeed choose what quality of jpeg).

Dogfish_magnet

21-01-2009, 21:07

hi fritter,and welcome :wave:

basically,RAW files are uncompressed,so you can alter/adjust exposure ect in your RAW converter before converting to JPEG file...great if that once in a lifetime shot is under/over exposed...

JPEG's are files which the camera compresses,ie: makes all the choices for you in camera,so you are unable to adjust exposure,white balance etc...so if that once in a lifetime shot is under/over exposed...then it's generally a delete job.

Not quite true;) A raw file can be compressed or un-compressed, A RAW file is basically the data captured by the camera's sensor without any in-camera (or minimal) processing they will usually contain a lot more data than a jpg file and are considerably larger. a D300 will produce both 12 & 14 bit RAW images where as a jpg is normally 8bit.

A JPG image is processed in camera using user definable settings for things like colour, sharpness, saturation etc depending on the camera and is compressed and only usually contains 8-bit data.

stan the man

21-01-2009, 21:10

Not quite true;) A raw file can be compressed or un-compressed, A RAW file is basically the data captured by the camera's sensor without any in-camera (or minimal) processing they will usually contain a lot more data than a jpg file and are considerably larger. a D300 will produce both 12 & 14 bit RAW images where as a jpg is normally 8bit.

A JPG image is processed in camera using user definable settings for things like colour, sharpness, saturation etc depending on the camera and is compressed and only usually contains 8-bit data.

thanks paul....you put it much better than i could :thumbs:

kopite

21-01-2009, 22:12

I`ve been photographing using jpg + raw lately so that I could get home and then Upload pcs straight away. After a bit of thought though I'm usually editing pictures a little at least before uploading so I am starting to do purely in raw now.

heidfirst

21-01-2009, 22:29

RAW doesn't afaik take advantage fully of DRO though (although I don't know how good/much use DRO is on a A200/A300/A350).

fabs

21-01-2009, 22:37

so here we go again....sony alpha thread part 3 :D

And you get your name under the thread title this time! :notworthy: :D

rogprov

22-01-2009, 05:47

RAW doesn't afaik take advantage fully of DRO though (although I don't know how good/much use DRO is on a A200/A300/A350).

If you use the Sony supplied IDC converter for raw files a certain amount of DRO processing is possible but nowhere near as much as the camera generated jpegs can produce.

A problem is that with DRO active the camera will underexpose so it can protect the highlight end to extract an optimised file. Even taking raw only you will get a dark raw file. BUT the danger is that what you see on the LCD is DRO camera processed - which you will not necessarily be able to replicate when you process the raw file. What you see is NOT what you will get in the raw file.

DRO is best left off when taking only raw.

stan the man

22-01-2009, 06:22

And you get your name under the thread title this time! :notworthy: :D

oh yeah :lol:

fabs

22-01-2009, 06:54

If you use the Sony supplied IDC converter for raw files a certain amount of DRO processing is possible but nowhere near as much as the camera generated jpegs can produce.

A problem is that with DRO active the camera will underexpose so it can protect the highlight end to extract an optimised file. Even taking raw only you will get a dark raw file. BUT the danger is that what you see on the LCD is DRO camera processed - which you will not necessarily be able to replicate when you process the raw file. What you see is NOT what you will get in the raw file.

DRO is best left off when taking only raw.

Strangely I find that not to be the case. I have DRO set to auto and shoot only in RAW, yet I find, if anything, the results are a little over exposed. :shrug:

rogprov

22-01-2009, 06:58

Strangely I find that not to be the case. I have DRO set to auto and shoot only in RAW, yet I find, if anything, the results are a little over exposed. :shrug:

Have you tried taking two otherwise identical shots one with and one without DRO on?

fabs

22-01-2009, 06:59

Have you tried taking two otherwise identical shots one with and without DRO on?

I shall make that todays task. :D

rogprov

22-01-2009, 07:00

Ah good ... will relieve the boredom :)

fabs

22-01-2009, 07:04

Ah good ... will relieve the boredom :)

By the way, are you able to access the other site this morning?

fabs

22-01-2009, 07:12

OK, had a quick play.

These are both as shot, nothing done at all other than saved as jpegs. Not sure if I can spot any difference if I'm honest.

DRO Auto

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r16/fabs64/DRO_auto.jpg

DRO Off

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r16/fabs64/DRO_off.jpg

rogprov

22-01-2009, 07:34

By the way, are you able to access the other site this morning?

No ... it's down for "routine maintenance" ... they say :)

fabs

22-01-2009, 07:36

No ... it's down for "routine maintenance" ... they say :)

Hmmm....:D

rogprov

22-01-2009, 07:37

OK, had a quick play.

These are both as shot, nothing done at all other than saved as jpegs. Not sure if I can spot any difference if I'm honest.

There's more detail on the owl's face area with DRO on and generally the highlights are down ... but both look overexposed to me anyway.

rogprov

22-01-2009, 07:38

No ... it's down for "routine maintenance" ... they say :)

... and tomorrow morning as well.

fabs

22-01-2009, 07:41

There's more detail on the owl's face area with DRO on and generally the highlights are down ... but both look overexposed to me anyway.

Yeah, you could be right about the detail in the face. The pics were taken in aperture priority with no exposure compensation so that's probably why they're both over-exposed, although well within the range to be easily recovered. Really must get myself a light meter. ;)

JPS

22-01-2009, 11:50

DRO is best left off when taking only raw.

Strangely I had a go at Jpeg shooting the other month and set the DRO on the A700 to the highest level to check the results. Some images came out very well indeed with great control on the shadow area.

I switched back to RAW and left DRO alone as it was and noticed that the RAWs were coming out more pinky or slightly orange, expecially the skin tones. I was under the impression that DRO didn't alter the RAW image. I turned off the DRO to be safe and got better looking RAW shots after that - back to what they were like before I'd altered the settings.

chrism_scotland

22-01-2009, 13:09

I was just wondering if a Slingshot 100 would be big enough for my A300?

fabs

22-01-2009, 13:12

I was just wondering if a Slingshot 100 would be big enough for my A300?

Depends what you want to put in the cag with it. It'll certainly be big enough for the A300 and a few lenses and probably a few other bits and pieces.

chrism_scotland

22-01-2009, 13:39

Thanks Fabs, will do as a starter then! I can always upgrade later.

heidfirst

22-01-2009, 14:35

I switched back to RAW and left DRO alone as it was and noticed that the RAWs were coming out more pinky or slightly orange, expecially the skin tones. I was under the impression that DRO didn't alter the RAW image. I turned off the DRO to be safe and got better looking RAW shots after that - back to what they were like before I'd altered the settings.
I believe that using DRO sets flags in the RAW file which IDC at default settings automatically cues on.
The problem with DRO is that sometimes it seems to be capable of producing better results than you can get even from RAW & pp but it's very hard to judge under which conditions this will happen ...
I seem to recall David Kilpatrick writing an article or 2 on it.

BalSanghera

22-01-2009, 17:18

I was just wondering if a Slingshot 100 would be big enough for my A300?

I have a Slingshot 200 and its fits my a350 nicely along with four lenses, flashgun and chargers.

The Slingshot 100 might be good for the camera and 2 addtional lenses.

kopite

22-01-2009, 19:54

I have the slingshot 100 and it fits my a200 perfectly :D Only have the one lens atm but there is room for a decent telephoto in there as well as prime.

There is also room for 4 cf cards inside as well as a section on the top that holds my charger, USB cable and any other bits I have lying around that might be useful.

There is also a screen protector cloth built in which is nice as well as a Weatherproof cover although i havent tried this yet as its tucked away at the bottom and I dont fancy trying to push it back in :D

chrism_scotland

22-01-2009, 21:00

Cheers for the replies folks, I think I will go for the AW100 just now, aside from my A300, Kit Lens and a CF Card I don't have anything else yet, although I'm going to get some cleaning kit, a second CF card and at least one more lens in the not too distant future.
As long as I have room for my camera, 2-3 lens, my wallet, mobile and iPod it'll do for me for now!

PAS

22-01-2009, 22:27

hi guys
been looking in2 getting the sony 70-200G - but funds may not allow:( how does the sigma 70-200 f2.8 do? mostly for motorsports:thumbs:
cheers

fabs

22-01-2009, 22:40

hi guys
been looking in2 getting the sony 70-200G - but funds may not allow:( how does the sigma 70-200 f2.8 do? mostly for motorsports:thumbs:
cheers

Will it be long enough for motorsports? You may want to look at the Sony 70-300 G lens. Not as fast as the 70-200, but a very good lens with a better reach and less dosh than the Sigma 70-200.

heidfirst

22-01-2009, 23:00

70-400mm G SSM should also be out at the end of the month ~£1100 plus or minus if you need the extra reach.

traff22

22-01-2009, 23:05

70-400mm G SSM should also be out at the end of the month ~£1100 plus or minus if you need the extra reach.

i want to know what they were thinking when they decided that it would be silver :thinking:

fabs

22-01-2009, 23:06

i want to know what they were thinking when they decided that it would be silver :thinking:

Probably a retro thing. Some of the old minolta lenses were silver.

stan the man

23-01-2009, 06:30

it doesn't look to bad in the flesh though,although i'd still prefer it in black or white.the sony guy at that show in hammersmith told me it was going to cost around the £1500 mark,but probably sony's prices.

stan the man

23-01-2009, 06:37

hi guys
been looking in2 getting the sony 70-200G - but funds may not allow:( how does the sigma 70-200 f2.8 do? mostly for motorsports:thumbs:
cheers

the sigma fairs quite well in reviews,and will be okay for tracks like mallory,oulton etc,where you are reasonably close to the circuit,but may not have enough reach for tracks like silverstone and brands...

p.s.was talking in general about any 70-200 :thumbs:

chrism_scotland

23-01-2009, 07:54

Does anyone know where I can get some sort of LCD protection for my A300 screen?
Even if its just a sticky cover to avoid it being scratched.

bradleysmith

23-01-2009, 08:07

Sony do an official one. I tried modifying a spare iPhone one I had but it came off within hours :-( I think the plastic was too thick.

rogprov

23-01-2009, 08:58

Does anyone know where I can get some sort of LCD protection for my A300 screen?
Even if its just a sticky cover to avoid it being scratched.

These look nice.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270328791742&cguid=d5f0084411c0a0e201a4a424fffb9149

spannerdude

23-01-2009, 09:21

These look nice.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270328791742&cguid=d5f0084411c0a0e201a4a424fffb9149

I have one of these on my A700 and I'm very happy with it.
It provides excellent protection, doesn't affect the preview quality and doesn't look like I've glued an piece of tat to the back of my camera. :thumbs:

spannerdude

23-01-2009, 09:26

i want to know what they were thinking when they decided that it would be silver :thinking:

I guess they were probably thinking "We need a colour that will reflect the suns rays and reduce expansion whilst also providing a corporate identity which distinguishes our product from all of the other white lenses on the market"

PAS

23-01-2009, 10:47

Will it be long enough for motorsports? You may want to look at the Sony 70-300 G lens. Not as fast as the 70-200, but a very good lens with a better reach and less dosh than the Sigma 70-200.

cheers marc, i looked at the 70-300 SSM, but really wanted the f2.8?
the 70-200 should be fine for motox, get right upto the trackside most times. and for times when needed, mabie get the 1.4x convertor.
i know the tamron isnt rated, but hows the sigma? i was wana stick to the sony lens, but if it cant be done, would the sigma be worth investing in?

fabs

23-01-2009, 11:46

cheers marc, i looked at the 70-300 SSM, but really wanted the f2.8?
the 70-200 should be fine for motox, get right upto the trackside most times. and for times when needed, mabie get the 1.4x convertor.
i know the tamron isnt rated, but hows the sigma? i was wana stick to the sony lens, but if it cant be done, would the sigma be worth investing in?

Some say the sigma is great value for the money, but I have also noticed quite a few people selling them on so I really don't know to be honest. It may be a case of getting one and then, if you're not happy with it, selling it on and savng the pennies for the Sony G. One of the good things about lenses is the thriving second hand market. If you do get the wrong one, at least you won't lose too much of your investment.

leaky5

23-01-2009, 12:26

I have been wanting to have a play with this for a while, no where near a technical test.
Found a spare hour this morning and a pack of batteries !!

Overall I am pretty please with the results, the only lens that seems to be slightly
front focusing is the Sigma 70-300 at 90mm, the second 70-300 was taken at about 240mm.
The rest seem OK to me.

All taken at the largest possible aperture and spot auto focused on the middle battery.

50mm

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3416/3220321458_de502ca3be.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leaky5/3220321458/)

35-105mm

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3499/3220321814_bee0cb9634.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leaky5/3220321814/)

100-200mm

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3499/3220321814_bee0cb9634.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leaky5/3220321814/)

70-300mm 1

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3342/3220322930_8ede4dcaf7.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leaky5/3220322930/)

70-300mm 2

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3334/3219475053_c2ae53a98a.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leaky5/3219475053/)

Happy Snapper

24-01-2009, 17:00

Part 3 here I am.

My flashgun came today very pleased just got to work out what all the buttons do :(

Hello to all that are new :wave:

:woot:

skydiver

24-01-2009, 17:27

My flashgun came today very pleased just got to work out what all the buttons do :(

...Ditto

- now just looking for a Manfrotto 322RC2 Head, anyone got one they want to get rid of?

bradleysmith

24-01-2009, 17:49

rogprov

24-01-2009, 18:15

fabs

24-01-2009, 18:28

heidfirst

24-01-2009, 20:14

Like many before me my alpha was back focusing. I became positive about this when using my 30mm f/1.4 wide open. At closest focus distance it was focusing about 5mm behind. Anyway, i took the bottom sticker off, 1/8th turn clockwise on each of the 3 nuts and bingo! Everything's spot on. Took 5 minutes max. Sony's quality control is shocking!
not a Sony lens that you were using was it though?
You'll find that back/front focussing varies by lens & it's certainly not something unique to Alphas - go to any brand (Canon, Nikon, Pentax etc.) DSLR forum & you'll find mention of it.
if there was 1 perfect adjustment for it why do the bodies that have micro-adjustment have memories for multiple lenses (e.g. Nikon D300 will store 12 settings)?

bradleysmith

25-01-2009, 06:09

The sony kit lens, a tamron 55-200 and sigma 30mm all back focused. Obviously the Sigma highlighted the pronlem more. All lenses are now spot on i think. With rehard to my qc comment: my olympus e300 had no issues and none of my canon film slrs did either yet i hear about this all the time now.

heidfirst

25-01-2009, 08:43

front/back focusing wasn't an issue on film slrs.

if you Google " DSLR front focusing" Sony is the 10th hit with Pentax taking up the first few slots followed by Canon, Olympus & Canon again with Nikon appearing shortly afterwards.
If you Google "DSLR back focusing" yes, Sony is the 1st with Nikon 2nd then a mix of Canon & Nikon with the 2nd Sony entry about 18th.
In short as I said it's common across all manufacturers.

bradleysmith

25-01-2009, 20:15

... and your other lenses also are still focussing okay?

They all back focused, now none of them do. All spot on. So, either every lens had an issue or the camera did! Obviously I used the f/1.4 to do the adjustments as that was the most critical.

I didn't realise this was a general problem with DSLRs. Fair enough that Canon, Nikon etc. are just as bad but that doesn't excuse Sony. I'm a bit of a Sony fanboy myself and don't usually have any problems with them.

Anyway, I'm happy now. This system is fantastic. I'll post some shots later.

rogprov

25-01-2009, 20:32

They all back focused, now none of them do. All spot on. So, either every lens had an issue or the camera did! Obviously I used the f/1.4 to do the adjustments as that was the most critical.

I didn't realise this was a general problem with DSLRs. Fair enough that Canon, Nikon etc. are just as bad but that doesn't excuse Sony. I'm a bit of a Sony fanboy myself and don't usually have any problems with them.

Anyway, I'm happy now. This system is fantastic. I'll post some shots later.

I'm very glad your problems are resolved now. I think you must have been unlucky ... I have 3 Sony dSLRs and a bunch of lenses and not found any problems so I've been lucky :) I was, in a perverse sort of way, looking forward to using the micro-adjust facility on the a900 .. but I was thwarted as I can't find anything wrong that would benefit from an adjustment :lol:

chrism_scotland

26-01-2009, 08:06

Well I got my Slingshot 100, very impressed with the quality and it seems a nice size for the equipment I have, easily takes my A300, kit lens and all the accessories (cables, etc) plenty of room for my iPhone, Mobile and Wallet and will easily hold any additional kit I will get in the short term.
I'm looking at zoom lenses and I've noticed the Sigma 70-300 mm APO Macro DG Lens is this a good lens for the price?

bradleysmith

26-01-2009, 08:10

I'm very glad your problems are resolved now. I think you must have been unlucky ... I have 3 Sony dSLRs and a bunch of lenses and not found any problems so I've been lucky :) I was, in a perverse sort of way, looking forward to using the micro-adjust facility on the a900 .. but I was thwarted as I can't find anything wrong that would benefit from an adjustment :lol:

I guess only the people who have problems bother to post. Such is the way of the internetz. I do have to wonder though how many people moan about the quality of the kit lens when in fact they have focus issues. My kit lens now appears to be much better than I originally gave it credit for!

Gazbag

26-01-2009, 18:43

fabs

26-01-2009, 18:48

heidfirst

26-01-2009, 19:24

a Minolta 300mm f2.8 went for £908 on eBay yesterday, I'm kicking myself for not bidding as I expected it to go for much, much more than that.
On the other hand a 400/4.5 went for £1400 which is pretty much top dollar - it's a strange world ... :shrug:

My kit lens now appears to be much better than I originally gave it credit for!
whilst it's now having it's flaws more easily noticed on 10/12Mp bodies rather than on 6Mp I don't think it's really that bad either (more a case of adequate rather than good) although I'm sure that there is also some sample variation.

kopite

27-01-2009, 12:10

I only have the kit lens atm :(

I get paid on friday and was hoping to get a new lens maybe a 70-300 lens but the missus has decided she wants to go away for valentines which means any cash for me is gone now :(

I am keeping my eye on ebay but all the decent lenses *** talk about like the beercan and the 50mm 2.8 are going for crazy money

JPS

27-01-2009, 22:33

Just got me a Minolta 50mm AF f1.7 prime for a quick £49 today. I had no intention of getting one of these, but when I seen it in my local camera shop, couldn't help it :) Its only my second lens and wow its soooooo sharp.

Yes that was a great deal. I got mine from ebay the other year and it cost me about £56, that was before the popularity of Sony Alpha's pushed the prices up.

I get paid on friday and was hoping to get a new lens maybe a 70-300 lens but the missus has decided she wants to go away for valentines which means any cash for me is gone now :(

That's women for you, always putting a spanner in the works.

heidfirst

28-01-2009, 19:18

70-400mm G SSM now staring to appear on a few more retailer's sites so I guess that it's probably due for release any day now - cheapest so far is RGB at £1020 (which makes it cheaper than a Canon 100-400 L IS).

stan the man

28-01-2009, 19:32

mmmmmmmm.......the reach would certainly come in handy for wildlife/motorsports photography,but i'll be wearing my jewels around my neck if i even suggest getting one :eek: :nono: :lol:

heidfirst

28-01-2009, 19:54

I've preordered at RGB :bonk:

Sigma prices are going up ~40%, Canon has announced another price increase so how long do you think before Sony goes up again - buy now & save £££s:naughty:

stan the man

28-01-2009, 20:07

you scots must be loaded...£££££££££££££ :lol:

heidfirst

28-01-2009, 20:41

says the man with a Sony 70-200 F/2.8 G (now dearer at RGB than the 70-400mm) ... :p

stan the man

28-01-2009, 21:01

says the man with a Sony 70-200 F/2.8 G (now dearer at RGB than the 70-400mm) ... :p

ah yes,but i had to get rid of my P+J to get it though.....

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c207/1137/100_0783.jpg

:'(

kopite

29-01-2009, 07:17

Stan wanna share some of the wealth you have and buy me a new lens :D

fabs

29-01-2009, 07:20

Stan wanna share some of the wealth you have and buy me a new lens :D

I think you may find he's spent it all. If he spends any more, Jackie may well be wearing a new pair of spherical shaped earrings! :eek:

stan the man

29-01-2009, 07:48

oh yes..pretty much all gone i'm afraid.what there was left has been used by jackie to re-furnish the lounge with new this and that :'(.i'm just going to have to make do with what i have until my lottery numbers come up :lol:

kopite

29-01-2009, 08:55

I think Im going to buy this http://www.bristolcameras.co.uk/p-tamron-lens-55-200mm-f4-0-5-6-di-ii-ld-macro.htm

Reviews on Dyxum say its nearly as good as the beercan and with money being tight and the missus wanting a romantic Valentines I think this might have to tide me over until Summer.

heidfirst

29-01-2009, 09:07

As long as the focal & aperture range suit you can't knock it for the price as it punches above it's weight.

kopite

29-01-2009, 09:10

leaky5

29-01-2009, 10:10

Well from what i`ve read all the 70-300 lenses out there get soft above 200 unless u spend 500+ on the ssm one.
I found myself wanting a lot when I was at the zoo lately so the extra 130 mm should give me that extra zoom I need for now :D

I only ever use tend my 70-300 when I need the extra reach, i.e. Airshows etc. I now find day to day that I very rarely need to go above 200mm

kopite

30-01-2009, 07:38

rogprov

30-01-2009, 08:11

Just been on Ebay this morning and Beercans seem to currently be going for 150+.

The tamron lens is 60 quid.

This raises a question for me. is the Beercan really worth the 100 quid more you pay for it? I know build quality is immense but is the actual picture quality going to be that much better than the tamron offering?

MAF lens prices have have risen quite dramatically over the last year or so - I suppose that's testimony to the popularity of Sony dSLRs. The "beercan" in particular has been picked up as a cult lens and the name is banded about by sellers on all sorts of other lenses - "small beercan", "little beercan", "beercan build" and many more.

I've had several "beercans" over the years and, yes, they are a nice lens but they're often over-praised by folk who have never had better lenses. The main attraction is the constant f4 maximum aperture, the quite short close focus distance ... and, of course, that substantial build! However the actual performance is not really that special - it's failings become quite noticeable when used on FF - compared to modern lenses.

Over time I've wasted a lot of cash buying older second-hand lenses to try (usually on web recommendations) - none really lived up to expectations and ended up being resold.

More recently I've (with difficulty) curbed my buying/testing/reselling of older lenses and save up for a new G or Zeiss ... I've only a few lenses now but those I have leave little to be desired :)

A year ago I would have said all Minolta/Sony dSLR owners should try a "beercan" ... but at current prices I'm not so sure.

Roger

bradleysmith

30-01-2009, 10:58

I bought that Tamron a week ago and think it is excellent, especially at that price.

kopite

30-01-2009, 12:05

Well i`ve taken the plunge and ordered the tamron lens :D

Hopefully will be here early next week so will see how it goes.

riggy

30-01-2009, 12:37

Just bought an a200 with 18-70 kit lens hoping that I now don't have to roll one trouser leg up etc whilst on the forum! Looking at adding to the lens in the summer with a longer range one but probably can't afford the Sony lenses. Had a quick play very impressed.

Paul

stan the man

30-01-2009, 12:57

hey paul..and welcome to the world of the sony alpha.have fun learning all about your new toy,and don't forget to post some pics up for us to see :thumbs:

leaky5

30-01-2009, 13:02

hoping that I now don't have to roll one trouser leg up etc whilst on the forum!

Paul

No that is the Canikon users, right leg for Canon, left for Nikon. Sony users are quite normal. :bonk::p:nuts::whistling:

chrism_scotland

30-01-2009, 15:34

I was looking for a Beercan but the prices on Ebay are getting a bit silly, £150+ seems a bit steep.
Would I be as well getting one of the newer Minolta 75-300mm lenses? Its just they seem a lot cheaper, ideally I want to get a zoom lens, a mini beercan and maybe a 50mm prime, but I feel that I could save a lot by buying something other than a beercan for a zoom lens.

kopite

30-01-2009, 16:36

Check out the tamron lens here : http://www.bristolcameras.co.uk/p-tamron-lens-55-200mm-f4-0-5-6-di-ii-ld-macro.htm

The reviews on dyxum say its a brilliant lens :D

heidfirst

30-01-2009, 17:26

just got my quarterly copy of Photoworld which includes a brief review of the Tamron 55-200mm - in short "Putting it simply, this little lens is possibly the best tele zoom we have used in the 200mm range. It can be recommended without hesitation as a second lens if you own a camera with the 18-70mm, it even shares the 55mm filter size."

chrism_scotland

30-01-2009, 20:09

Is the Bristol Cams price the normal price for the lens?

heidfirst

30-01-2009, 20:22

what's "normal"?
to give you an idea it's £136 at Warehouse Express ...

£55 at http://www.collegecameras.co.uk/Products.asp?PrdID=373&Name=Tamron-55-200mm-f/4-5.6-AF-Di-II-Macro

edit: if you don't mind no original box this may be a good alternative deal http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110335036031
the Sony will probably have better coatings & marginally better build.

chrism_scotland

30-01-2009, 21:36

I really meant is it an offer that's going to be gone in a week, I want a lens
but I don't get paid for a fortnight yet!
I appreciate what people were saying about the 75-300mm lenses being softer over 200mm so if I can get a good value 200mm then I will get that.

heidfirst

30-01-2009, 22:13

depal56

30-01-2009, 22:41

You have proberbly been here before but i'll ask anyway seeing as a certain Jessups branch (Cough Cough splutter) didnt seem to know or wanna know.

I wanna get a shoe fitting flash for the A300 I know it has to be a sony one to make the right contacts but ive seen different model numbers, is that to fit certain models - or an upgrade or a lumesance output variation

heidfirst

30-01-2009, 23:06

I wanna get a shoe fitting flash for the A300 I know it has to be a sony one to make the right contacts
No, it doesn't as others (Sigma, Metz etc.) make Minolta/Sony dedicated versions too.

rogprov

31-01-2009, 05:43

I wanna get a shoe fitting flash for the A300 I know it has to be a sony one to make the right contacts but ive seen different model numbers, is that to fit certain models - or an upgrade or a lumesance output variation

Here is the Sony Flash Compatibility chart ...

http://support.sony-europe.com/dime/compatibility/dsr/dsr_flash/flash.aspx?site=odw_en_GB&m=DSLR-A300

leaky5

31-01-2009, 06:24

chrism_scotland

31-01-2009, 07:20

I think that it was £59 the other day so it's creeping up.
Bearing in mind that all the other brands are going up substantially due to exchange rate shifts I'm sure that Tamron will be following so expect prices to stay down only as long as there is existing stock bought in previously.

of course if you have a credit card buy now & pay off your card in 6 weeks or whatever.

Cheers mate, I would put it onto my credit card but its still creaking after Christmas!!!
I will hold off even if its £80 in 2 weeks it would still be worth it,

Chris

kopite

31-01-2009, 07:43

For all of you out there looking for a 50mm f1.7 AF.
The seller is advertising this as used once, includes the above lens.
Currently just of £60 with 5 hours to go.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&item=270334853420

Dont tell everyone!!!! just tell me hehe.

I`m gonna keep an eye on that. noone else bid!!!!!!!!!

chrism_scotland

31-01-2009, 08:05

Leaky,

How do you find the Sigma 70-300mm APO - I've heard good things about image quality but some concerns over build quality......

leaky5

31-01-2009, 10:48

Leaky,

How do you find the Sigma 70-300mm APO - I've heard good things about image quality but some concerns over build quality......

Mine is an older model, built in the mid 90's. Built like a tank and I don't think if suffers from the same problems as the newer ones. Also was built for FF 35mm cameras.
I am very pleased with it, managed to pick it up off Ebay last spring for £46.

chrism_scotland

31-01-2009, 10:55

Mine is an older model, built in the mid 90's. Built like a tank and I don't think if suffers from the same problems as the newer ones. Also was built for FF 35mm cameras.
I am very pleased with it, managed to pick it up off Ebay last spring for £46.

Cheers Leaky,

I've seen the new one but yeah I have heard that some people have had issues with the Sigma, something to do with the higher powered motor on the new Alphas.

kopite

31-01-2009, 11:45

For all of you out there looking for a 50mm f1.7 AF.
The seller is advertising this as used once, includes the above lens.
Currently just of £60 with 5 hours to go.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&item=270334853420

Gutted. placed my bid at the last minute and got outbid before I could put another in :(

Adn what makes it even worse is the person who won has other 50mm lenses on sale so has only bought it to make a profit :(

kopite

31-01-2009, 14:40

Well I hope your happy leaky5. I have already bought the tamron lens this weekend and after you posting that link and me missing out I had another look on ebay and saw this come on:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=140298385201
paid up and should be here next week :D

Have to explain to the missus why valentines weekend is gonna be fish and chips for dinner.

riggy

01-02-2009, 21:44

First pics with my new toy. First pic of starlings taken through double glazing and cropped
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/gallery/data/500/thumbs/DSC00017_renamed_25142.jpg (http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51415)

Second one is of the dog
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/gallery/data/500/thumbs/DSC00026_renamed_6566.jpg (http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51416)

Just need a day of work to go outside and play but on till Saturday ( got A200 on Friday and on for 7 days!)

Be Kind
Paul:thumbs:

heidfirst

01-02-2009, 23:24

( got A200 on Friday

make sure that you claim your £30 cashback from Sony.

riggy

02-02-2009, 06:33

make sure that you claim your £30 cashback from Sony.

The form went to Sony the same afternoon.
Now I've got the camera I have a shopping list a mile long!

Paul:lol:

JPS

02-02-2009, 12:18

BalSanghera

02-02-2009, 12:29

Hey guys what you think to my first snow shot using my Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8

Got up at 6:30am this morning and this was the view out of my window
http://balsanghera.com/TP/DSC01363.jpg

heidfirst

02-02-2009, 21:04

I know most of the magazine reviews seem to give it about 8/10 but still say that it's not as good as it could have been.
On the other hand many working photographers seem to rate it highly for what it is at least for landscape etc. usage upto ~800ISO e.g. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/quality-vs-value.shtml.
Sure, it's not all things to all men but I don't think that exists in any body yet.

stan the man

03-02-2009, 08:45

could have done with an A900 yesterday...just to get a few shots i couldn't get with the 1.5 crop and my 24-70.

maybe later in the year if i can save quick enough,or sell my bike to fund one ;)

Heidthebaw

03-02-2009, 09:00

Anyone had a go of the A900 yet? I don't intend to upgrade to one as the ISO still seems to be an issue that needs sorting. Apart from that, what do you think of the machine in general, I know most of the magazine reviews seem to give it about 8/10 but still say that it's not as good as it could have been.

I've had the A900 for a month after using the A700 for 6 months. The magazine reviews don't do it justice. It's a far better camera than it gets credit for. Check out the real world reviews from sites like Luminous Landscapes http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/A900-Second-Opinion.shtml

The image quality is astounding. The only thing I have against it is that I had to upgrade my glass to get the full benefit (another £2,500 gone) but the results using Zeiss and G glass are well worth the expenditure.

I regularly shoot at ISO800 and at 25% print size you cannot see any noise. At ISO1600 you can see a bit of noise but you REALLY have to be looking for it. Nothing Neat Image or Noise Ninja won't cure.

I'm confident Sony will get the 'noise issue' sorted with a firmware release, as they did with the A700 V4 firmware.

rogprov

03-02-2009, 09:01

On the other hand many working photographers seem to rate it highly for what it is at least for landscape etc. usage upto ~800ISO e.g. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/quality-vs-value.shtml.
Sure, it's not all things to all men but I don't think that exists in any body yet.

I too read all the reviews I could find on the a900. I was a little hesitant because of some of the reports but bought one anyway. Despite the plethora of reports on any camera the only way to really know is to own one. It is a great camera and does all and more than I need to the point where I was no longer using the a700 so sold it.

chrism_scotland

04-02-2009, 11:55

Can anyone reccomend a decent, cheap monopod suitable for an A300, and what sort of head would I need?
A bit confused by the options!

stan the man

04-02-2009, 12:12

Can anyone reccomend a decent, cheap monopod suitable for an A300, and what sort of head would I need?
A bit confused by the options!

i can thoroughly recommend the manfrotto 680B and 234RC head,and it's now only just over £53 from here...

http://www.morrisphoto.co.uk/ProductDetails~man~Manfrotto~productID~5459~catego ryid~158.html

holds my 70-200 G and A700 no problem :thumbs:

chrism_scotland

04-02-2009, 12:18

Cheers Stan, looks good!

JPS

04-02-2009, 12:41

Good to see some users on here with experience of the A900. I'm sure it is a great machine but when the magazines always compare against the likes of the D3 and 1Ds MK III etc etc then they will (nearly) always favour the main two makes.

heidfirst

04-02-2009, 22:20

but the D3 & the IDs MkIII aren't really the A900s intended targets - the 5DMkII is probably the closest & if Nikon bring out (as rumoured) a D700X with the same sensor so would that be.
What I've taken from all the reviews is that they are all slightly differenly focused & all have their strengths & weaknesses & you choose what suits your needs best. It's been very interesting to see quite a few pros being willing to go multi-system to exploit this.

chrism_scotland

05-02-2009, 10:08

Where do I find my Serial Number on my A300?

kopite

05-02-2009, 12:36

I`ve just checked my work email and there are parcels in work for me :D

Unfortunately I`m not in work till tonight so cant get my lenses till then :(

The wait sucks

Happy Snapper

05-02-2009, 12:38

Where do I find my Serial Number on my A300?

Bottem of the camera.

Happy Snapper

05-02-2009, 12:38

I`ve just checked my work email and there are parcels in work for me :D

Unfortunately I`m not in work till tonight so cant get my lenses till then :(

The wait sucks

What lenses have you gone for?

chrism_scotland

05-02-2009, 12:39

Bottem of the camera.

Cheers, managed to find it!

kopite

05-02-2009, 13:50

What lenses have you gone for?

Minolta 50mm 1.7

Tamron 55-200 mm

And a set of coloured led torches

JPS

05-02-2009, 17:33

Sounds like a good set of glass you're getting there.

kopite

05-02-2009, 20:30

And they are here on my desk now :D

The Minoltalens feels really nice. Focus feels really smooth. There is a bit of dust on the lens but that will clean off. cant wait to try it out.

The Tamron lens feels ok although the Movement from 55-200 doesnt feel as smooth but I guess this is because its plastic.

chrism_scotland

05-02-2009, 20:43

Everyone seems to be after the 50mm Minolta lens, is there a new alternative?

fabs

05-02-2009, 20:56

Everyone seems to be after the 50mm Minolta lens, is there a new alternative?

Sadly Sony have only produced an f1.4 version which is close to £300. Hopefully they produce an f1.7/f1.8 soon.

kopite

05-02-2009, 20:58

I only paid 80 quid for it so I'm pretty happy :D

Really wanna play with it atm

stan the man

05-02-2009, 21:03

nothing stoping you shooting everyday objects at home....well,it's something to do :D

heidfirst

05-02-2009, 21:14

Everyone seems to be after the 50mm Minolta lens, is there a new alternative?

there is a rumour about a new 1.8.
However, I would say only get 1 if you need 1 as I had 1 in my bag for something like 10 years without using it once ...
Whilst I may be in the minority I know that I'm not alone.
In short analyse what you need & buy what you need accordingly not what other people tell you to buy without knowing your intende usage etc..

kopite

05-02-2009, 21:17

Im stuck in work though stan :(

GOnna bring my camera with me tomorrow night and mess about in the office.

stan the man

05-02-2009, 21:46

there is a rumour about a new 1.8.
However, I would say only get 1 if you need 1 as I had 1 in my bag for something like 10 years without using it once ...
Whilst I may be in the minority I know that I'm not alone.
In short analyse what you need & buy what you need accordingly not what other people tell you to buy without knowing your intende usage etc..

yep,good advice heidfirst....i got the 50mm F/1.7 minolta because i was advised too.i've only used it a few times in 18 months,but won't get rid as it's a belting lens that i only paid £40 for...bargain! :D

stan the man

05-02-2009, 21:47

Im stuck in work though stan :(

GOnna bring my camera with me tomorrow night and mess about in the office.

bummer...n'er mind,you'll soon be able to play with them to youe hearts content ;)

fabs

05-02-2009, 21:49

chrism_scotland

05-02-2009, 21:51

I'm kinda that way about the Beercan, hesitant about paying the money but I know I will make my money back if I don't want/need it.

JPS

06-02-2009, 11:19

Must admit, my 50mm 1.7 hasn't seen the light of day for quite a while now either.

rogprov

07-02-2009, 08:01

I think that's one of the good things about the 50mm. It doesn't cost that much and if you don't like it you can always sell it on and get most of your money back (Or the way the Minolta is going, even make a profit!)

... that's what I did ... 4 times :) tried all the versions (and duplicates) from a new Sony f1.4 to Minolta f1.7 but they' were all soft until stopped down a bit which, to me, defeats the purpose of a fast lens. Might as well get a f2.8 macro version which is sharp wide open.

fabs

07-02-2009, 08:42

... that's what I did ... 4 times :) tried all the versions (and duplicates) from a new Sony f1.4 to Minolta f1.7 but they' were all soft until stopped down a bit which, to me, defeats the purpose of a fast lens. Might as well get a f2.8 macro version which is sharp wide open.

I find the f1.4 excellent for low light street photography and have often used it wide open. Guess it doesn't really have to be super sharp for that although it does me fine.

rogprov

07-02-2009, 08:50

I find the f1.4 excellent for low light street photography and have often used it wide open. Guess it doesn't really have to be super sharp for that although it does me fine.

... well if it suits you Marc that's fine but it is soft until stopped down ...

http://www.photozone.de/sony-alpha-aps-c-lens-tests/373-sony-50-f14?start=2

fabs

07-02-2009, 08:54

... well if it suits you Marc that's fine but it is soft until stopped down ...

http://www.photozone.de/sony-alpha-aps-c-lens-tests/373-sony-50-f14?start=2

Hmmm, I notice that the f1.4 shots in that review were shot at an angle. Not really sure if that is a completely fair test at that aperture.

rogprov

07-02-2009, 09:14

I guess that was done to better illustrate the limited depth of field of a lens at f1.4

fabs

07-02-2009, 09:17

I guess that was done to better illustrate the limited depth of field of a lens at f1.4

Of that I'm sure. Still, it does me! :D

rogprov

07-02-2009, 09:24

That shallow DoF can give some great effects :)

fabs

07-02-2009, 09:28

That shallow DoF can give some great effects :)

Indeed. It takes a bit of practise, but it can prove very worthwhile. I'm still practising BTW. :D

Happy Snapper

07-02-2009, 13:01

What a lovely day it is today and I'm on here :D

I do far more talking about photography then going out and doing it!
Must get out more :lol:

:woot::woot::woot:

JPS

07-02-2009, 13:03

What a lovely day it is today and I'm on here :D

I do far more talking about photography then going out and doing it!
Must get out more :lol:

Same here, not been out for a few months now due to one thing and another.

fabs

07-02-2009, 13:07

What a lovely day it is today and I'm on here :D

I do far more talking about photography then going out and doing it!
Must get out more :lol:

:woot::woot::woot:

Same here, not been out for a few months now due to one thing and another.

You two and me three! Going out to hopefully photograph some doggies in the snow this afternoon though. :thumbs:

stan the man

07-02-2009, 13:13

You two and me three! Going out to hopefully photograph some doggies in the snow this afternoon though. :thumbs:

your always out togging marc...last sunday and monday that i can think of:p

me,i got out yesterday,and was thinking of going today....but i think i'll watch the rugby now,and again tomorrow :woot:c'mon you wales :woot: :lol:

Happy Snapper

07-02-2009, 13:41

Whats next on everyones list of things to buy?

Mines a studio lighting kit. :woot:

fabs

07-02-2009, 13:52

your always out togging marc...last sunday and monday that i can think of:p

me,i got out yesterday,and was thinking of going today....but i think i'll watch the rugby now,and again tomorrow :woot:c'mon you wales :woot: :lol:

Monday? :shrug:

Wales? They play rugby then? :thinking: :D

JPS

07-02-2009, 13:59

Whats next on everyones list of things to buy?

Mines a studio lighting kit. :woot:

I bought one of those £299 kits from Jessops last year. Ok, it isn't the best - hence the low price - but it is a start. Having never used a lighting set before, it took me a bit of time to get used to the settings that I needed on the A700 to get the right exposure.

My 'want' list includes a longer lens, 400mm or more and one that's good quality. Although I may have to save for this for a while yet.

Happy Snapper

07-02-2009, 14:05

I bought one of those £299 kits from Jessops last year. Ok, it isn't the best - hence the low price - but it is a start. Having never used a lighting set before, it took me a bit of time to get used to the settings that I needed on the A700 to get the right exposure.

My 'want' list includes a longer lens, 400mm or more and one that's good quality. Although I may have to save for this for a while yet.

cool thats all I want a cheap kit to start me off want one with background stands and background works out cheaper and easier for setting up round other peoples houses.

JPS

07-02-2009, 14:13

Here's a tip, if you get a lighting set, also make sure you pack an extension lead in your bag if you take the kit out to someone's house for a shoot. You need to make sure that you have power.... The lights will flash a few times if they've been charged, but you can't rely on them to last very long so take a long power lead with you.

stan the man

07-02-2009, 14:53

Monday? :shrug:

Wales? They play rugby then? :thinking: :D

or was it tuesday you went to the zoo with yv :thinking:

mmmmmmmmmm........nearly half time and england are winning quite comfortably.wales got scotland tomorrow,england next week....and i've got a ticket for the final welsh game against ireland at cardiff :woot: :woot: :woot:

stan the man

07-02-2009, 14:54

Whats next on everyones list of things to buy?

Mines a studio lighting kit. :woot:

same here probably...daughter gets married in july,so will have a spare room that will be converted into an office/studio...:thumbs:

fabs

07-02-2009, 16:54

or was it tuesday you went to the zoo with yv :thinking:

mmmmmmmmmm........nearly half time and england are winning quite comfortably.wales got scotland tomorrow,england next week....and i've got a ticket for the final welsh game against ireland at cardiff :woot: :woot: :woot:

Actually it was Wednesday we went to the zoo. ;)

As for lighting, Yvonne got one of those Lencarta sets from Ebay for £380 and it looks like a fantastic set of kit for that money.

Happy Snapper

07-02-2009, 16:58

As for lighting, Yvonne got one of those Lencarta sets from Ebay for £380 and it looks like a fantastic set of kit for that money.

That does look good I have been looking at this.
http://www.karlu.com/product_info.php?cPath=41_363&products_id=8419

Got everything needed.

fabs

07-02-2009, 17:18

That does look good I have been looking at this.
http://www.karlu.com/product_info.php?cPath=41_363&products_id=8419

Got everything needed.

Looks good. If only I had some spare cash (And some room) at the moment.:(

Happy Snapper

07-02-2009, 17:22

Looks good. If only I had some spare cash (And some room) at the moment.:(

Yeah space is the big thing I would have to take it to friends houses and do it really use my friends as models :lol:

kopite

07-02-2009, 19:36

The next thing i`ll be buying is a portrait grip :D

And I`m going out next week to Lake district to take photos although the missus thinks its a romantic valentines weekend :D

chrism_scotland

08-02-2009, 10:38

Been considering the Tamron 55-200mm lens but now it's gone up to £100 seriously considering saving for a Beercan, worth the extra £60 or so?

rogprov

08-02-2009, 10:47

Been considering the Tamron 55-200mm lens but now it's gone up to £100 seriously considering saving for a Beercan, worth the extra £60 or so?

Still quite cheap here ...

http://www.collegecameras.co.uk/Products.asp?PrdID=373&Name=Tamron-55-200mm-f/4-5.6-AF-Di-II-Macro

kopite

08-02-2009, 19:26

I got mine from collegecameras and they where really quick with delivery.

The reviews on Dyxum all say that except for build quality the tamron is as good if not better as a lens. For 100+ quid less I can handle the plasticness of the lens :D

genchi

08-02-2009, 19:41

Im actually thinking of new lens, would love to get some good glass, probably some Zeiss but can`t decide which one. I havent tryied portrait yet but would love to but also many times im in situation i would use some wide angle lens and on the top of this really want to buy some fixed focal lenght lens. Any suggestions :D

BTW few times caught myself thinking if its worth to buy good lens for sony or just sell it and buy nikon :thinking: . Love the way how Nikon pics looks.

All alpha users are probably now gonna kill me :eek: hm? Although i love liveview on my a350 and really think i`d missed that.

chrism_scotland

09-02-2009, 07:52

Still quite cheap here ...

http://www.collegecameras.co.uk/Products.asp?PrdID=373&Name=Tamron-55-200mm-f/4-5.6-AF-Di-II-Macro

Cheers mate will try and pick one up at the end of the week when I get paid!
Also going to get a Manfrotto 680B monopod.

Zebedee101

09-02-2009, 15:46

First time poster - long time lurker!

I'm thinking of selling on my beercan and getting the Sigma 70-200mm f2.8.

I love my minolta 50mm f1.7 its great for portraits, especially with a 4 year old who cant keep still. On my A100 its comparible to have the much more expensive 70mm prime. Will probably only reconsider after the lottery win where I can afford full frame and all the G-glass to go with it

stan the man

09-02-2009, 15:53

hi zebedee..and welcome :wave:

if your selling your beercan,expect a barage of offers on here as i think there's a few folk after the beercan lens..

now,on to a more serious matter...

what you really want is the 70-200 F/2.8 SSM G lens....we need more members to this exclusive club :rules: :lol:

traff22

09-02-2009, 20:35

Went to buy a Sigma 24-70 today and everwhere is sold out :bang: Warehouse express have some on order, does anyone know how long it normally takes them to get stuff in?

stan the man

09-02-2009, 20:47

Went to buy a Sigma 24-70 today and everwhere is sold out :bang: Warehouse express have some on order, does anyone know how long it normally takes them to get stuff in?

have you tried microglobe in london?

just checked,and they apparently have them in stock...

http://www.microglobe.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?pName=sigma-2470mm-f28-ex-asph-dg-df-af-wide-zoom-lenssony&cName=sigma-lenses-sigma-standard-zoom

the only problem is,they are grey imports,so don't get the sigma UK 3yr warranty.you do get the 1yr standard warranty though....

me and fabs got ours from there..and both are good copies :thumbs:

traff22

09-02-2009, 20:53

have you tried microglobe in london?

just checked,and they apparently have them in stock...

http://www.microglobe.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?pName=sigma-2470mm-f28-ex-asph-dg-df-af-wide-zoom-lenssony&cName=sigma-lenses-sigma-standard-zoom

the only problem is,they are grey imports,so don't get the sigma UK 3yr warranty.you do get the 1yr standard warranty though....

me and fabs got ours from there..and both are good copies :thumbs:

Yeah i just looked and its saying in stock now :lol: I'll order it now. I had trouble from microglobe before i ordered a lens and they changed the address to somewhere in Manchester. Luckily i saw the email before they sent it.

heidfirst

09-02-2009, 23:18

what you really want is the 70-200 F/2.8 SSM G lens....we need more members to this exclusive club :rules: :lol:
you pay the subscription fee & I'm happy to join ... :naughty:

EspressoJunkie

10-02-2009, 06:41

leaky5

10-02-2009, 06:47

Hi all, I have a quick Sony related question. Ive won a Minolta beercan on ebay, does anyone know what kind of uv filter i'll need to buy for it? Will the same sort I got for my kit lens fit or do I need another sort? Sorry if its a daft question, but I want to protect the beercan's lens as soon as it arrives!

Both have 55mm threads so you would be OK. Not actually sure if a UV filter does the same job on digital as they did on film cameras. Most people just use UV or skylight filters for protection, if that is what you want then you would be better off with 2 filters and leave them on all the time.

rogprov

10-02-2009, 06:59

Hi all, I have a quick Sony related question. Ive won a Minolta beercan on ebay, does anyone know what kind of uv filter i'll need to buy for it? Will the same sort I got for my kit lens fit or do I need another sort? Sorry if its a daft question, but I want to protect the beercan's lens as soon as it arrives!

Filters are not always a good thing - hoods and caps can offer more "protection" - filters can increase flare and degrade the image.

Before spending money have a read through this ...

http://www.gdanmitchell.com/2007/12/27/uv-filter-or-not

Happy Snapper

10-02-2009, 18:11

Why oh why do warehouse express have to get on my nerves.
Orderd a bag and they want bills and all sort to prove address so rang up and changed address.

Pain in the bum rant over sorry :lol:

fabs

10-02-2009, 18:16

Why oh why do warehouse express have to get on my nerves.
Orderd a bag and they want bills and all sort to prove address so rang up and changed address.

Pain in the bum rant over sorry :lol:

Those new tablets the doc prescribed not helping then? :D

Happy Snapper

10-02-2009, 18:22

Those new tablets the doc prescribed not helping then? :D

No Marc there useless :lol:

I was so pleased with the service and all this happened all though they were helpful on the phone.

Need a new bag for my new grip :D

fabs

10-02-2009, 18:23

No Marc there useless :lol:

I was so pleased with the service and all this happened all though they were helpful on the phone.

Need a new bag for my new grip :D

See, I kept telling you to get a grip! :lol:

Happy Snapper

10-02-2009, 18:26

See, I kept telling you to get a grip! :lol:

:lol: Yeah think I need too :woot::woot::woot::woot::woot:

stan the man

10-02-2009, 22:43

matt....i was told by the post office it will be delivered by 1pm,so try not to get tooo excited tonight :lol:

suniil

11-02-2009, 08:20

Just about to join the 450D club with a Sigma 18-200 (bought from forum member nick). I understand Canon 50mm 1.8 is a must have lens, what other lens are must have within £100-£200 budget

Thanks

stan the man

11-02-2009, 08:31

wrong thread methinks suniil...this is a sony thread ;)

suniil

11-02-2009, 08:35

Ah! sorry, I was originally considering A700, but without Sony Cashback the camera was out of my budget. A great camera though!

wrong thread methinks suniil...this is a sony thread ;)

stan the man

11-02-2009, 08:38

yeah,only got my A700 a few weeks back...and there never has been cashback on them,but a bargain all the same at £550(body only),and a truly great camera....enjoy your 450D:thumbs:

heidfirst

11-02-2009, 08:40

yeah,only got my A700 a few weeks back...and there never has been cashback on them,but a bargain all the same at £550(body only),and a truly great camera.
there was in Autumn/Winter 2007 when I got mine ... :p
'tis a great body though.

stan the man

11-02-2009, 08:45

there was in Autumn/Winter 2007 when I got mine ... :p
'tis a great body though.

bugger...wish i'd got it then :lol:

heidfirst

11-02-2009, 08:47

street prices were a lot dearer for it then so net I still ended up paying ~£50 more for it than you did. However, considering that I got a year's shooting out of it meantime I don't mind. :)

fabs

11-02-2009, 08:47

yeah,only got my A700 a few weeks back...and there never has been cashback on them,but a bargain all the same at £550(body only),and a truly great camera....enjoy your 450D:thumbs:

there was in Autumn/Winter 2007 when I got mine ... :p
'tis a great body though.

Cashback on the A700 started in December 2007, the day I got mine. Actually had a phonecall from the manager of the shop on the way home to tell me about it.

stan the man

11-02-2009, 08:56

i'm just glad i've got one now :D

only trouble is...the A350 isn't likely to see the light of day very often,so don't know wether to keep it,or sell it.it would be good to have a backup/second camera though,just in case!

fabs

11-02-2009, 09:07

stan the man

11-02-2009, 09:14

It's the only reason I kept my A100.

yeah,i know marc....but if i sell it,it will aford me something else i may want/need :naughty:maybe some lighting,70-400..errrr scrap that one :lol:

seriously though,i picked the 350 up the other day,and looked through the viewfinder and thought..nah,then put it back.if i knew jackie would use it,then i'd keep it for her anyway....but she might take better shots than i do which wouldn't be good :shake: :lol:

heidfirst

11-02-2009, 09:18

only trouble is...the A350 isn't likely to see the light of day very often,so don't know wether to keep it,or sell it.it would be good to have a backup/second camera though,just in case!

It's the only reason I kept my A100.
& I my KM 7D

Happy Snapper

11-02-2009, 10:41

matt....i was told by the post office it will be delivered by 1pm,so try not to get tooo excited tonight :lol:

good stuff might miss it as Im not at home but will get it from the post office later on.

Warehouse express sent me another email asking for bills and things again so just rang them up to cancel I told them why and they didnt care so there you go :bang:

stan the man

11-02-2009, 12:28

good stuff might miss it as Im not at home but will get it from the post office later on.

Warehouse express sent me another email asking for bills and things again so just rang them up to cancel I told them why and they didnt care so there you go :bang:

perhaps they've seen your avatar,so think you're a terrorist :lol:

JPS

11-02-2009, 14:17

Happy Snapper

11-02-2009, 19:37

perhaps they've seen your avatar,so think you're a terrorist :lol:

:lol:

Got the grip aye ok Stan very happy with it thanks alot :thumbs:

:woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot:

stan the man

11-02-2009, 20:38

:lol:

Got the grip aye ok Stan very happy with it thanks alot :thumbs:

:woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot:

glad your pleased with it matt..enjoy :thumbs:

Lasagne

12-02-2009, 16:05

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINOLTA-DYNAX-70-210mm-f4-0-AF-BEERCAN-SONY-ALPHA-FIT_W0QQitemZ250372651730QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Cam erasPhoto_CameraAccessories_CameraLensesFilters_JN ?hash=item250372651730&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18

Seems like a good deal - I've already got one so thought I'd post it here.

It's not mine by the way :lol:

chrism_scotland

12-02-2009, 16:39

fabs

12-02-2009, 16:41

I'm sorely tempted................. this or a Tamron 55-200mm:bang:

I would definitely go with the Beercan. Faster and better quality.

chrism_scotland

12-02-2009, 16:48

I would definitely go with the Beercan. Faster and better quality.

I'm so close to clicking buy now......................... :shrug:

Lasagne

12-02-2009, 17:08

All the ones I watched (including the one I bought) went for around £135 - £140.

Do it !!!

Happy Snapper

12-02-2009, 17:15

Is it worth getting a 50mm 1.7 MD for £30?

fabs

12-02-2009, 17:16

Is it worth getting a 50mm 1.7 MD for £30?

Don't you need an adapter to use it with Sony and isn't it manual focus only?

Happy Snapper

12-02-2009, 17:19

Don't you need an adapter to use it with Sony and isn't it manual focus only?

Not sure about the adapter its Minolta lens and its manual focus but for £30 should I snap it up?

Its in the window of a near by camera shop.

fabs

12-02-2009, 17:22

Not sure about the adapter its Minolta lens and its manual focus but for £30 should I snap it up?

Its in the window of a near by camera shop.

Yeah it's Minolta, but MD was the mount before the A fit so you would need an adapter to be able to fit it to a Sony camera. Not sure how available the adapters are and how much they are so couldn't really tell you whether to go for it or not.

Happy Snapper

12-02-2009, 17:24

Yeah it's Minolta, but MD was the mount before the A fit so you would need an adapter to be able to fit it to a Sony camera. Not sure how available the adapters are and how much they are so couldn't really tell you whether to go for it or not.

Ah I see thanks anyway Marc will give it a miss.

fabs

12-02-2009, 17:24

Having said that:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Minolta-MD-Lens-to-Minolta-MA-Sony-Mount-Adaptor-A100_W0QQitemZ370157267900QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ph otography_CameraLenses_Lens_caps_hoods_adaptors_ET ?hash=item370157267900&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18

Happy Snapper

12-02-2009, 17:28

fabs

12-02-2009, 17:30

Thats not too bad £20 inc post though.

Ouch, didn't see the postage cost. You're then talking £50 for a manual focus lens and I don't know how the quality compares to the AF version. Might be worth holding out for the AF.

chrism_scotland

12-02-2009, 17:43

All the ones I watched (including the one I bought) went for around £135 - £140.

Do it !!!

Well I now own a Beercan! I think I'll be happier than with the Tamron but if I don't I'll sell it here!

Happy Snapper

12-02-2009, 17:44

Ouch, didn't see the postage cost. You're then talking £50 for a manual focus lens and I don't know how the quality compares to the AF version. Might be worth holding out for the AF.

Yeah think your right.

Will start saving for the Tamron 17-70 2.8 :D

Happy Snapper

12-02-2009, 17:45

Well I now own a Beercan! I think I'll be happier than with the Tamron but if I don't I'll sell it here!

Congrats :thumbs:

Boynielaad

12-02-2009, 19:25

Ouch, didn't see the postage cost. You're then talking £50 for a manual focus lens and I don't know how the quality compares to the AF version. Might be worth holding out for the AF.

How much should you pay for the AF 50mm f1.7 then?

fabs

12-02-2009, 19:55

How much should you pay for the AF 50mm f1.7 then?

They tend to go for anything between £50 and £100.

Boynielaad

12-02-2009, 20:07

They tend to go for anything between £50 and £100.

Thanks

Just seen one with 7000 body and 35-105 at £150

Not bad but no bargain I don't think

Gazbag

12-02-2009, 20:47

Just picked up an AF f1.7 50mm Minolta in really excellent condition from my local LCE for £49. I'm really happy with it and now need to start using it :)

Lasagne

12-02-2009, 20:49

Well I now own a Beercan! I think I'll be happier than with the Tamron but if I don't I'll sell it here!

What did you do that for ??????

Not really, I'm sure you'll enjoy it :thumbs:

JPS

12-02-2009, 20:53

Just picked up an AF f1.7 50mm Minolta in really excellent condition from my local LCE for £49. I'm really happy with it and now need to start using it :)

£49 is a good price indeed, is it in decent nick?

chrism_scotland

12-02-2009, 21:25

What did you do that for ??????

Not really, I'm sure you'll enjoy it :thumbs:

Hehe, I hope so was double what I was going to spend on a Tamron, will have to wait til next month for my Monopod!

Happy Snapper

12-02-2009, 23:54

Just picked up an AF f1.7 50mm Minolta in really excellent condition from my local LCE for £49. I'm really happy with it and now need to start using it :)

That is rather a good price, local shops are were to go for a bargain it seems.

leaky5

13-02-2009, 06:18

Theres one here with a 50mm & 100-200, £106 with 2 days to go.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=270342721766

Gazbag

13-02-2009, 16:08

£49 is a good price indeed, is it in decent nick?It is a little cracker!!! My skill level is minimal but this little lens is so sharp and forgiving in low light, its great. I really like it a lot.:clap:

JPS

15-02-2009, 19:30

Anyone used the new Tamron SP AF10-24mm F3.5-4.5 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) lens on a Sony? I've seen a review in the latest DSLR User Magazine and they seem to rate it quite high.

I'm after a new wide angle lens for landscapes and may sell my 16-80 ZA and look at getting the Tamron.

heidfirst

15-02-2009, 19:55

there is a rumour that there is to be a Sony badged variant of it to be announced shortly, possibly PMA?

I'm not sure that the Tamron is even available in MAF mount atm in the UK.

JPS

15-02-2009, 21:01

It is out there in an A mount, although Dyxum haven't rated it yet.

fabs

15-02-2009, 21:13

there is a rumour that there is to be a Sony badged variant of it to be announced shortly, possibly PMA?

I'm not sure that the Tamron is even available in MAF mount atm in the UK.

Warehouse Express have it listed in Sony mount.

heidfirst

15-02-2009, 23:05

listed - but not in stock ...

kopite

16-02-2009, 12:20

I finally got to use my lenses over the weekend in the lakes and am pretty impressed. I got a load of pics whilst i was on a boat cruise on windermere and i`ll try and get some up later. Was using the Tamron 55-200 lens for them and the quality was impressive.

The 50mm 1.7 minolta lens was brilliant :D Feels like a really solid bit of kit and the focus action is spot on. Loved the shallow DOF on it as well :d

I`ll try and get some pics up when i get home tonight.

skydiver

16-02-2009, 19:52

Well I now own a Beercan! I think I'll be happier than with the Tamron but if I don't I'll sell it here!

Think you bought it at the right time - surely this can't be right :shake:...or am I missing something?

Beercan (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINOLTA-AF-70-210-ZOOM-1-4-32-BEERCAN-Sony-Alpha_W0QQitemZ150326168712QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_C amerasPhoto_CameraAccessories_CameraLensesFilters_ JN?hash=item150326168712&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318)

Anyone want to buy mine :lol:

mastertrinity

16-02-2009, 19:55

it will be good when sony bring out a few more lenses to compete with the likes of canon and nikon.

EspressoJunkie

16-02-2009, 21:08

Think you bought it at the right time - surely this can't be right :shake:...or am I missing something?

Beercan (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINOLTA-AF-70-210-ZOOM-1-4-32-BEERCAN-Sony-Alpha_W0QQitemZ150326168712QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_C amerasPhoto_CameraAccessories_CameraLensesFilters_ JN?hash=item150326168712&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318)

Anyone want to buy mine :lol:

It went from £100 to £192 in one bid, someone really wants that lens!!!!!!

chrism_scotland

16-02-2009, 21:22

Well I received my Beercan today, not had a chance to get out with it but impressed with it, a few marks through usage over the last 20 years but other than that in excellent nick, very impressed for the money I paid.

Boynielaad

17-02-2009, 08:00

It went from £100 to £192 in one bid, someone really wants that lens!!!!!!

It's now at £246. Why is this one any different?

EspressoJunkie

17-02-2009, 15:22

It's now at £246. Why is this one any different?

Maybe its magic.....?:shrug:

chrism_scotland

18-02-2009, 22:44

Looking for a NP-FM500H battery for my A300 but baulking a little at the prices for a Sony one, are there any good reputable third party batteries out there?

Boobster

18-02-2009, 23:17

Looking for a NP-FM500H battery for my A300 but baulking a little at the prices for a Sony one, are there any good reputable third party batteries out there?

I got mine from here. Work perfectly with my A200 and even display percentage left like the OEM one too.

http://search.stores.ebay.co.uk/i-modetech_a200_W0QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ4QQfsnZiQ2dmodetec hQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfsubZ889454QQsaselZ210618385QQs ofpZ0

Hope this helps :)

chrism_scotland

19-02-2009, 06:30

I got mine from here. Work perfectly with my A200 and even display percentage left like the OEM one too.

http://search.stores.ebay.co.uk/i-modetech_a200_W0QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ4QQfsnZiQ2dmodetec hQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfsubZ889454QQsaselZ210618385QQs ofpZ0

Hope this helps :)

Cheers mate I was really looking for an online store or somewhere that does batteries, always a bit wary of Ebay had a lot of fake stuff.

skydiver

19-02-2009, 11:47

Bit of a long shot, but anyone know of a one for sale?

Minolta AF 300mm f/2.8 Apo G (D) SSM

...failing that, anything longer, f4.

Details via P.M please.

skydiver

19-02-2009, 12:06

Well, finally managed to get out with camera (in the snow) and try some pics.

Uploaded a few into an album...I think :lol:

Would really appreciate some feedback on them - what's right/wrong, how you would have improved them etc.
New to this DSLR stuff, so was just twiddling dials, pressing buttons to see what the differnce was between pics...couldn't really see anything obvious.

Think I've picked some of the better ones, but you guys may have picked something different :thinking:

Thanks in advance.

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/gallery/data/2676/358.jpg

heidfirst

19-02-2009, 13:31

Looking for a NP-FM500H battery for my A300 but baulking a little at the prices for a Sony one, are there any good reputable third party batteries out there?
up until very recently Wilkinson Cameras was doing the genuine Sony for £25 but they've gone back up now.
Picstop (who I have used for other things with no problems) have an equivalent http://www.picstop.co.uk/Digital-Camera-Battery/Sony-NP-FM500H-Digital-Camera-Battery---Equivalent? for £30.
It's probably the same as you would get from eBay cheaper but if you want the security of buying from a known UK supplier...
There's also an Amazon market seller http://www.amazon.co.uk/RECHARGEABLE-BATTERY-NP-FM500H-NP-FM500-NPFM500H/dp/B001QIN6Z6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1235053680&sr=8-2