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IanC_UK
19-09-2006, 19:02
Met up with Matt again, and went to Silverstone for the test day, took severl pics, binned a lot due to dodgy framing and crappy camera work, heres a small selection of what i have processed so far.

Think all of these are 20D and Matt's 800mm Sigma lens !

McLaren - Lewis Hamilton
http://www.cookster.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/mclaren1.jpg

http://www.cookster.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/mclaren2.jpg

Spyker
http://www.cookster.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/spyker1.jpg

Renault - Just been grass cutting !
http://www.cookster.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/renault2.jpg

http://www.cookster.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/renault3.jpg

Rest are here (http://www.cookster.co.uk/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=64), and will be added to as soon i can get to editing them ! lol

matty
19-09-2006, 20:47
very nice Mr Cook..that Spyker dont go well but looks nice!

wish i could have been there with you

IanC_UK
19-09-2006, 20:49
cheers matty, spyker was one of the quickest cars there today, had McLaren, Renault, Spyker, Williams, Toyota i think !

Darryn
19-09-2006, 21:15
Love them all, where were you standing though? I thought id tried every terrace and grandstand at Silverstone and ive never been able to achieve such a low to the ground view.... awesome colours and very nice closeup crops/captures.

dod
19-09-2006, 21:20
Love them all, where were you standing though? I thought id tried every terrace and grandstand at Silverstone and ive never been able to achieve such a low to the ground view.... awesome colours and very nice closeup crops/captures.

Saved me typing it :D Never been to silverstone though :suspect:

Joe T
19-09-2006, 21:20
Great stuff!

So that 800mm is a good lens? Is that the 300-800 jobbie? Quite tempted by that myself! Just how big is it?

Like matty, I wish I could have gone.

BTW, anyone up for BMW day at Santa Pod on saturday? Details here (http://www.santapod.co.uk/e_bmw.php)

IanC_UK
19-09-2006, 21:23
Love them all, where were you standing though? I thought id tried every terrace and grandstand at Silverstone and ive never been able to achieve such a low to the ground view.... awesome colours and very nice closeup crops/captures.

Luffield complex, right by the fence ! ;)

no cropping involved on any of those pictures ! they are as they came out of the camera, except for a little levels tweak !

IanC_UK
19-09-2006, 21:25
Great stuff!

So that 800mm is a good lens? Is that the 300-800 jobbie? Quite tempted by that myself! Just how big is it?

Like matty, I wish I could have gone.

BTW, anyone up for BMW day at Santa Pod on saturday? Details here (http://www.santapod.co.uk/e_bmw.php)

The lens is awesome to be honest, no its not the 300-800 its a 800mm prime and is flippin hyoooooge ! lol

Joe T
19-09-2006, 21:28
800mm prime? Did you find framing a bit of a problem?

IanC_UK
19-09-2006, 21:29
this is just going round luffield onto the start/finish straight !

http://www.cookster.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/renault3.jpg

IanC_UK
19-09-2006, 21:30
800mm prime? Did you find framing a bit of a problem?

Yes which is why some of my shots hit the bin as soon as i downloaded them ! lol

Joe T
19-09-2006, 21:36
I think i might have to invest in the 300-800 one day. I find the zoom on my 120-300 absolutely invaluable for motorsport. :)

Shots like that last one you posted only make sense if you can get in real close. I hate cropping, so a long lens is a must. I assume thats uncropped?

IanC_UK
19-09-2006, 21:39
yep absolutely no cropping in ANY of the shots posted above ! :)

Joe T
19-09-2006, 21:42
yep absolutely no cropping in ANY of the shots posted above ! :)

Good man!

Just done a bit of research. The 800mm is about a kilo lighter than the 300-800 (5880g for the zoom, 4990g for the prime). The zoom version looks bigger too. I think it might be too heavy to manage easily on a monopod (although the P-Pod I have should take the weight, according to the manufacturer).

Marcel
19-09-2006, 22:22
:eek: I thought it was the 300-800 he owned?

IanC_UK
19-09-2006, 22:24
:eek: I thought it was the 300-800 he owned?

Nope, 800 prime, its a handful to use, but with practice even i can get some half decent shots out of it ! am looking forward to see Matts shots from the day ! :)

Marcel
19-09-2006, 22:42
Indeed. Youve done well considering it was your maiden voyage with the beast :D (Not Matt, the lens ;))

kamion
19-09-2006, 22:44
Cool! I'll be there tomorrow morning. :D

*takes note... L... u... f... f... i... e... l... d... *

IanC_UK
19-09-2006, 22:45
I would be lying if i said it was my first time using Matts lens, first time was last year at the F1 testing, but i didnt have much of a go then, then when i met up with Matt to see if i could get pics of the Ospreys he was kind enough to let me have another go, unfortunately even for that they were too far way ! :(

IanC_UK
19-09-2006, 22:48
Cool! I'll be there tomorrow morning. :D

*takes note... L... u... f... f... i... e... l... d... *

LOL when you park, go through the entrance, walk left by the burger van and merchandisers, the bend is just there, infront of a covered stand that you cant use ! We stood right against the main fence, ignore the barriers, everybody else was ! lol

I am sorely tempted to go back tomorrow, but as i got 900 shots today, it will take me ages to process all of them now, let alone another load ! lol

chuckles
19-09-2006, 23:46
Some nice frame filling shots there Ian. Nice biceps and a severe back-ache as well no doubt!

Trung_EP3CTR
20-09-2006, 02:06
Very nice shots IanC.
I like the first shot the most as you can clearly see Hamilton driving.

*takes note... L... u... f... f... i... e... l... d... *I told you so;)
It'll be a bit of a trek from the pit garage though:p

IanC_UK
20-09-2006, 12:41
thanks all :)

You can cut across the bridge from the pit garage area, to behind the stands on the pit straight, its still a bit of a walk but worth it :)

Matt
20-09-2006, 13:13
You've done well there Ian, I'd forgotten how tight the crop is when the 800 is used with the smaller sensor.

Did you manage to complete the challenge I set you? :thumbs:

IanC_UK
20-09-2006, 13:15
You've done well there Ian, I'd forgotten how tight the crop is when used with the smaller sensor.

Did you manage to complete your challenge I set you. :thumbs:

Thanks Matt :)

Challenge ? what challenge was that then ? (he says having forgotten all abou it and killing time while he runs off to look ! ) lol

IanC_UK
20-09-2006, 13:58
This is probably the closest i got to meeting the challenge ! :) not quite right but close enough, for me anyway ! lol

http://www.cookster.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/spyker5.jpg

http://www.cookster.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/mclaren3a.jpg

kamion
20-09-2006, 14:30
Ok, I'm not going to post my pics up. They're rubbish! :thumbsdown:

IanC_UK
20-09-2006, 14:36
Ok, I'm not going to post my pics up. They're rubbish! :thumbsdown:

Post them anyway ! At least we can offer advice as to where you may hvae gone wrong ! We wont and dont take the proverbial ! we only try to help where we can ! :)

Ally
20-09-2006, 14:59
Nice shots ian, I love the tight crop and superb colours, must have been fun using a 800mm :)

IanC_UK
20-09-2006, 15:10
Thanks Ally, the Spyker doesnt just say Orange it shouts ORANGE at the top of its voice ! lol very vivid !

As for fun, not sure that could be used really re the 800mm its hard to pan and get the shot in focus and framed ! lol the results are worth it though, i just now need to rob a bank and save up to get something like it ! :)

kamion
20-09-2006, 15:13
Most shots I had either the front of the car, or the back of the car. Some times a rear wheel and the rear wing only. Some shots, I *only* had tarmac without a hint of any F1 car. :bonk:

A few came out decent when I had a full car in frame, but most of them seems a bit out of focus and soft. Only 1 or 2 came out pin sharp.

I have one very important question though. I tried using in Tv mode and copied the timing (1/640) and aperture setting (f/5) from the sports mode, but the shot came out underexposed and rather dark (see below)? :thinking:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/KamionCTR/Silverstone%20F1%20Testing/IMG_1794_resized.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/KamionCTR/Silverstone%20F1%20Testing/IMG_1785_resized.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/KamionCTR/Silverstone%20F1%20Testing/IMG_1754_resized.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/KamionCTR/Silverstone%20F1%20Testing/IMG_1751_resized.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/KamionCTR/Silverstone%20F1%20Testing/IMG_1753_resized.jpg

kamion
20-09-2006, 15:14
This is the one that's a bit dark taken in Tv mode... but why is it darker if it's the same 1/640 f/5?? :suspect:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/KamionCTR/Silverstone%20F1%20Testing/IMG_1788_resized.jpg

Here's a couple 100% crops showing the slightly out of focus and in focus shots. Any advice on getting in focus pictures? :help:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/KamionCTR/Silverstone%20F1%20Testing/100pct_crop1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/KamionCTR/Silverstone%20F1%20Testing/100pct_crop2.jpg

Trung_EP3CTR
20-09-2006, 15:38
I don't think you should've copied the settings from the 'sports' mode.
Just leave it on Tv setting and adjust your shutter speed to around 1/200. The aperture setting is automatically adjusted by the camera.

kamion
20-09-2006, 16:09
Thanks for the tip, Trung. :)

One thing good I found out today is that Renault is still unreliable:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/KamionCTR/Silverstone%20F1%20Testing/IMG_1871_resized.jpg

Engine blew up with white smoke and all as I was walking towards the BRDC stand.

IanC_UK
20-09-2006, 17:47
Kamion, you need to make sure you are set to centre focus point, ai servo (im assuming you have canon kit here so forgive me if im wrong), keep the shutter speed to about 1/160 1/250 to get wheel blur, and pan with the cars, from as early as you can and follow the cars all the way even after pressing the shutter button, this way you get a better chance of getting an in focus car and nicely blurred background ! :) have the iso set as low as practical on the day.

Remember, practice practice practice ! :)

Hope that helps,