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Just bought my 450D.
How long should I charge the battery for? Until it goes green or for 24-hours or what?
Why keep charging a battery when the light has turned green? ;)
read the manual. itll tell you in there
it is because some batteries have memories and if not charged properly will show full when they arent betty;)
be careful overcharging batteries as well
So whats the point of the light at all? :shrug:
I really don't want to open the sealed manual just to find out about the battery. Someone must know... Is it enough when it turns green or do I need to leave it for longer?
it's alive
10-02-2009, 12:55
Then download a copy of the manual from the canon website and look in that.
But I have to know why you don't want to use the manual for the very purpose it exists to perform?:thinking:
It just says from a completely empty battery it'll take 2-hours for it to go green. It doesn't mention a first charge. I presume green will be enough...?
Oh and how do I enable my signature? I've already made it but it won't display. :'(
Oh and how do I enable my signature? I've already made it but it won't display. :'(
The forum computers wont crack open a new sig just for a little post like that one. ;)
It works just fine, it only appears in the first post you make in a thread and even then, only over a certain number of words IIRC. :)
Matblack
10-02-2009, 13:21
The replacement I just bought said to charge for 16 hours even if the charger said it was fully charged before first use and that the battery woould need 4-5 'cycles' before it reached optimum capacity :)
MB
If you don`t read the manual, how are you going to get the best from your camera. Surely using your logic it`s a shame to open the sealed camera box and packaging just to take a few pics. :bonk:
V8burble
10-02-2009, 13:27
Sorry but I just laughed my tea all over the place.... why not open the manual????
MJ Stebbings
10-02-2009, 13:45
Sorry but I just laughed my tea all over the place.... why not open the manual????
:plusone:
kiteninja
10-02-2009, 14:51
Sorry but I just laughed my tea all over the place.... why not open the manual????
Isn't there a PDF version of it on the supplied CDs, fairly sure i got one with my 40D.
Also if its a Li-ion which im fairly sure it is then when the light goes green its full its not like the Nimih which you had to charge for an entire day or it just wont play ball.
Blue Eagle
10-02-2009, 14:58
OK, had a look in my 450d manual and it doesn't say anything about the first time you charge the battery, just fire it in till the light goes green and then you are sorted.
However it says you should remove it when the camera is not to be used for a while (it quotes 1 week)
Are you guys thick? We have two 450Ds in the house and I just bought mine today. I didn't want to open the fresh manual as I'm not sure how long I'll be keeping it and by saying everything is still sealed as new it'll go for more. I had to dig out my mums manual and I still haven't found the answer. It doesn't mention a first charge, only that it'll take 2 hours from a flat battery. Lots of people have a 450D or a camera that uses a very similar battery, so seeing as it's a forum, I decided to post and ask hoping I'd get a quick answer. If someone asked a question that I knew I'd just answer him to help him out. Why the drama? If you can't help and/or think what I'm doing is silly then just move to the next thread. Why waste your life by replying and repeating exactly what has already been said by someone else?
OK, had a look in my 450d manual and it doesn't say anything about the first time you charge the battery, just fire it in till the light goes green and then you are sorted.
However it says you should remove it when the camera is not to be used for a while (it quotes 1 week)
Cheers for your help. :thumbs:
Are you guys thick? We have two 450Ds in the house and I just bought mine today. I didn't want to open the fresh manual as I'm not sure how long I'll be keeping it and by saying everything is still sealed as new it'll go for more. I had to dig out my mums manual and I still haven't found the answer. It doesn't mention a first charge, only that it'll take 2 hours from a flat battery. Lots of people have a 450D or a camera that uses a very similar battery, so seeing as it's a forum, I decided to post and ask hoping I'd get a quick answer. If someone asked a question that I knew I'd just answer him to help him out. Why the drama? If you can't help and/or think what I'm doing is silly then just move to the next thread. Why waste your life by replying and repeating exactly what has already been said by someone else?
Not the best start to the forums. Ill be avoiding you from now on methinks :lol:
Are you guys thick?
That's a little ironic considering you can't even charge a battery :thumbsdown:
That's a little ironic considering you can't even charge a battery :thumbsdown:
Not a single person on this thread could give a definite answer to my original question. In the end I simply gave it an extra hour after the light turned green.
Not a single person on this thread could give a definite answer to my original question. In the end I simply gave it an extra hour after the light turned green.
Thus rendering the entire thread useless, and your insults un-necessary.
Thus rendering the entire thread useless, and your insults un-necessary.
Why on earth does an un-answered question render a thread useless? :thinking:
Just charge it till the charger shows a green light.
V8burble
10-02-2009, 17:04
I suggest you don't charge it at all. It will be worth more when you come to sell it :thumbs:
You need to leave it at least overnight.
If just charged till the light comes on it is not a full charge.
Strange i know!
V8burble
10-02-2009, 17:16
Post #20 says that we are all too late Andy... I feel a complete failure :(
surely lithium ion batterys are not like ni-cd (or whatever they are) they dont need an initial long charge. Thats what i was lead to beleive anyway.
i have never had battery problems on either my 400D or 50D when charging just to green.
RichardC27
10-02-2009, 18:05
surely lithium ion batterys are not like ni-cd (or whatever they are) they dont need an initial long charge. Thats what i was lead to beleive anyway.
i have never had battery problems on either my 400D or 50D when charging just to green.
Likewise, just charging to green should be fine.
Lithiom Ion batteries do not have a 'memory effect' and do not need 'cycling' when first used.
Why on earth does an un-answered question render a thread useless? :thinking:
cause your either too lazy to look for yourself when you've admitted you've got 2 manual's in the house! or to stupid to ask the question in the first place..:nono:
Don't insult people, you won't get far with an attitude like that.
Canon Bob
10-02-2009, 19:29
Don't insult people, you won't get far with an attitude like that.
Jonathan Ross makes £4 million a year doing it...what more do you want :shrug:
Bob
cause your either too lazy to look for yourself when you've admitted you've got 2 manual's in the house! or to stupid to ask the question in the first place..:nono:
Oh right. The manual was in the loft with her box. I didn't want to open my manual as explained above. In the end I looked for myself and still didn't find the answer so I'm quite glad I posted this thread in the first place. If you had actually read through the replies you'd know that still no-one has given a definite answer. Why exactly am I stupid?
. Why exactly am I stupid?
For being a total newbie and coming in here blasting well respected and established members :shake:
For being a total newbie and coming in here blasting well respected and established members :shake:
Betty, you know full well what this thread contains yet you choose to keep on returning. If you don't like me or what I write, why bother reading and replying?
You asked why you were stupid, I responded :)
Right, must get back to work, stop ****ing people off and be mates :D
FuriousD
10-02-2009, 20:42
I suggest you don't charge it at all. It will be worth more when you come to sell it :thumbs:
:lol::clap::woot:
Took the words right out of my mouth.
When it comes to a manual not opened, do people really care if a manual has been opened, i would be more concerned with the hardware condition. A lot of electrical items do not even have a sealed manual, i would have thought that a large percentage of potential second hand buyer would not know the difference or care.
The thread has made me laugh though :thumbs:
Blue Eagle
10-02-2009, 20:51
Oh right. The manual was in the loft with her box. I didn't want to open my manual as explained above. In the end I looked for myself and still didn't find the answer so I'm quite glad I posted this thread in the first place. If you had actually read through the replies you'd know that still no-one has given a definite answer. Why exactly am I stupid?
Well i gave a fairly definite answer from the manual and you did say thanks so fair enough, i'd not continue the discussion/arguement as you have the solution.
hashcake
10-02-2009, 21:25
If you had actually read through the replies you'd know that still no-one has given a definite answer.
When you plug the battery into the charger the light is initially red, once it's fully charged the light turn green.
The same applies to a lot of electronic devices, PSP's, Philips shavers etc.
There is the answer you seek so can we please move on.
I am curious to know that as your mother bought a 450D before you, has hers never had the battery charged and used?
Are you guys thick?
oooooooooooohhhhhhh dear :lol::lol::lol:
When you plug the battery into the charger the light is initially red, once it's fully charged the light turn green.
The same applies to a lot of electronic devices, PSP's, Philips shavers etc.
There is the answer you seek so can we please move on.
I am curious to know that as your mother bought a 450D before you, has hers never had the battery charged and used?
You've got to be kidding me. Some (a lot) of rechargeable batteries require a first-time charge. The manual doesn't state whether it requires a long first charge or not so I asked on here. In the past with previous devices (even a camera), I've waited until it indicates that it's fully charged and used it only to find that I was supposed to give it a full 12-hour first time charge. Rather than ruin an expensive Canon battery I decided to post on a photography forum and ask for advice. Seriously, what don't you understand about that?
The thread title clearly states, 'First charge on a 450D battery...' -- that sentence alone would be enough to realise what I'm getting at for the average human being. :shrug:
I've got my answer and advice off helpful forum members and the battery seems to be holding up fine. Please let this thread lay to rest.
hashcake
11-02-2009, 08:26
The thread title clearly states, 'First charge on a 450D battery...' -- that sentence alone would be enough to realise what I'm getting at for the average human being. :shrug:
Keep on insulting members here like that and you won't any help in the future.
Would a mod please close this thread.
it's alive
11-02-2009, 08:33
Close the thread.
Good idea, it's getting out of hand and the genuine efforts of those to help now seem to be being denigrated.
Which isn't nice. :'(
Keep on insulting members here like that and you won't any help in the future.
Would a mod please close this thread.
I'm only insulting the members that start the criticising by claiming that I cannot charge a battery. It's merely retaliating and defending myself. Oh and I already said in my previous post that we should lay this thread to rest.
KingCupid
15-03-2009, 21:06
Kryptix !!!.. You should charge 8-9 hours first time before use. I did the same. My local canon dealer said it. I hope it can answer your question. Thanx.
V8burble
15-03-2009, 21:20
Dear God KingCupid, its been over a month now... I do hope it's now charged :eek: I don't think I could cope with this thread continuing if it isn't :(
Dear God KingCupid, its been over a month now... I do hope it's now charged :eek: I don't think I could cope with this thread continuing if it isn't :(
I'm not sure if you're aware, but if you don't want to read a thread, by not clicking the link that leads to the thread you can actually manage to avoid the thread completely, believe it or not. What exactly can't you cope with?
I asked a straight forward question and got insults chucked at me for asking a question about camera equiptment in the camera equiptment section. As I said previously, a lot of batteries do require a first-time charge to lengthen their life. I'm just trying to look after my gear.
Kryptix !!!.. You should charge 8-9 hours first time before use. I did the same. My local canon dealer said it. I hope it can answer your question. Thanx.
Cheers, but as said below your post this thread is over a month old and I've already charged the battery for 5-hours. It seems to be holding up OK.
KingCupid
16-03-2009, 16:08
Sorry guys..I did not notice the thread time..sorry for my stupid reply.
Have a read "How to prolong lithium-based batteries"
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
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