Why do you post your photos?

[alexkidd]

Do you need the criticism?
Aren't you happy with what you produce?
Do you want smoke blowing up your arse?
Are you just taking part for the social element?
How much weight do you put into the opinions of fellow forum users?
Would you prefer criticism from 1000 hobbyists or 10 professionals with a large understanding of your field and proven skill?

Blah blah blah... :)

There is no positive or negative slant to this btw it's merely for discussion and all that (considering it's a friday and none of you will have anything better to do) :P

[Dangermouse1964]

I post to get honest crit from all here good or bad this way I can improve my shots as 99% are just acceptable and 1% are great so far but I want to reverse this

[trapper501]

I've posted a few in the various specialist boards to share with people I thought would be interested. They are only of interest because of the subject matter, I'm not a very technical photographer.

[Toothie]

I think possibly more the social side of things. To start with it was to improve my pictures and the couple of years i have been here it has improved. but recenlty i have found the C&C less helpful, its nice to recieve positives comments but i find many of the negative comments are of little value, either it is something i can do nothing about or its about subjective viewpoints and i dont agree.

So why still post? i guess to share my view on life and art :D

[..MD..]

very good question imo...:thumbs:

i only hope you get honest answers :naughty: :lol:

for myself i have used this forum since i got my 1st p+s / brige camera a few years ago now. and from what i was showing then to today is a huge difference all through posting on here and getting advice and help..

ref the last bit

everyones opinion is valued by me but if i am honest there are a few togs that i hope comment on my shots as there opinions DO mean more to me ...

hope that helps :lol:


md:thumbs:

[F-Stop]

I think possibly more the social side of things. To start with it was to improve my pictures and the couple of years i have been here it has improved. but recenlty i have found the C&C less helpful, its nice to recieve positives comments but i find many of the negative comments are of little value, either it is something i can do nothing about or its about subjective viewpoints and i dont agree.

So why still post? i guess to share my view on life and art :D

:plusone:

[Betty]

I honestly dont know. If its not DiddyDave ****ing on my parade, its MD :D

/runs away giggling

[Cobra]

To learn is the short answer
( and I have, (& am still learning ) cheers lads & lasses :thumbs))
and hopefully help others with compressions etc

[Brittany Alyse]

I like the feedback, because sometimes there are things about my photos that I don't see or catch until someone else points it out. It's very helpful!

[Cobra]

I honestly dont know. If its not DiddyDave ****ing on my parade, its MD :D

/runs away giggling

Yeah what is it with people called "Dave" :shrug:
I know one like that as well :D
( not a forum member BTW )

[grumpy69]

I post my shots on her and expect to get bad feed back but when I get good replies it gives me insperation to go out and try harder, I also like the social side of the forum especialy when there is a bit of a scrap over views :D Pro or none pro we are all doing the same thing but some are better than others, myself have got a lot to learn but it's great fun and thats why I am her :thumbs: Ps bring on the critics :razz: :lol:

[mikeward]

might sound strange but i dont post my pics, because i dont care what other people think. Aslong as i like them that is all that matters too me.

[flyingmonkeycorp]

I like the feedback. I also like looking at other people's photos, and I hope others may get a little pleasure from mine.

[trapper501]

might sound strange but i dont post my pics, because i dont care what other people think. Aslong as i like them that is all that matters too me.

that goes really well with your signature on the line below!

here are a few of my racing pics from that last season or 2

http://michaelward.fotopic.net/list_collections.php

[Uneducated_Rick]

I like C&C - unfortunately most people are affraid of upsetting people so settle for comments like "great shot" without any indicator to what could be done to make it better.

I'd prefer the panel of 10 pros who would rip my work to pieces to help me improve

[alexkidd]

i somewhat see what you're saying about the great shot thing but do all shots need to be criticised further than that?

if it is genuinely a great shot then perhaps it doesn't need to be eternally tweaked to perfrection? :)

[mikeward]

that goes really well with your signature on the line below!

no my sig has nothing too do with it, as im not asking for people to comment on any of the pics on there.

[Daysleeper40]

Answers in red....


Do you need the criticism? Yes - I'd like to improve

Aren't you happy with what you produce? Ususally not - I am very much a learner still

Do you want smoke blowing up your arse? Chance would be a fine thing!

Are you just taking part for the social element? Love the social element - I don't have many friends who are into photography so it's nice to share with likeminded people

How much weight do you put into the opinions of fellow forum users? Completely depends what they have said and who is doing the saying. I appreciate those who give honest crit and make an effort to post constructive comments. I have a lot of respect for certain individuals and the skill they show in their own photography or the effort they put into trying to help others - I would value those peoples opinion highly

Would you prefer criticism from 1000 hobbyists or 10 professionals with a large understanding of your field and proven skill? How about 5 professionals and 5 hobbyists to give a nice balance?

Blah blah blah... :)

There is no positive or negative slant to this btw it's merely for discussion and all that (considering it's a friday and none of you will have anything better to do) :P

[tigerimages]

I post my football stuff cos I know they're good and like to show them off. Anything else is usually to help me improve.

[swag72]

I post my pics for a number of reasons really.

1) There is something that is lacking in them
2) Trying out a new idea and value peoples input

I don't post because I think my pics are fab and I want the praise as I am yet to take a great shot. Some are OK, others not so. I am genuinely interested in what people think, so I would like more than a one liner.

To this end, I have really tried to give better crit to others in the hope that others will follow suit. I'm sure they don't, but at least I feel I am doing my bit.

Some peoples opinions I value more than others, as I consider them to be at a level in their particular photographic field that is very high. If my pics getted pulled apart, so be it. Then I know what to do better next time.

I also have found I am 'getting to know' some of the people on here and I quite enjoy it socially.

[deanlewis]

I Post mainly to share my interests with like minded people, I do like the feedback and constructive critisism but I have never taken critisism to heart because technical aspects aside, what one person minght love another won't care for.
I must say the standards on this forum are pretty damned good, I remember when I got my first dslr about 4 yrs ago I used to look on the forums and pick all the tips up from the comments before I dare post anything.

Dean

[Forbiddenbiker]

All of the above.



if it is genuinely a great shot then perhaps it doesn't need to be eternally tweaked to perfrection? :)


But if we didn't have the goal of perfection...wouldn't we have nothing, well nothing of true use or value. (artistic value not money)

I post to learn, the other stuffs a useful and often very unplifting side effect.

I do think its important to inspire and admire others shots as honestly as possible, if only to help clarify my own inadequacies as well as my strengths.

[creamykiwi]

I haven't posted any yet... but I'm here for the social side of things... it's wonderful to talk to people who actually like photography, rather than just tolerating me and my ever-present camera, lol! And also to learn, I'm still very much a beginner really, and it's fab to see other people's work and comments and learn from it all :D

[neilmac]

I post in order to learn from comments that may be offered.

In the year that I have been on here I think I have learned a lot. Some from the comments, but I suppose mostly from other threads and comments on them.

I don't post for praise BUT it's nice if any is given!

And, yes, you do (kind of) get to know other TP members as you go along.

Neil

[andy owen]

I post mine because god phoned me on my mobile and i insisted i do so IMMEDIATELY!!

[alexkidd]

see i don't really like perfect, perfect to me is too pure and regimented which is one of my main reasons for avoiding criticism because people aren't particularly flexible with their criticism and generally unforgiving.

i know if someone asks me what can be improved i'll look for something to improve in a shot however if they're happy with a shot then it's just there for appreciation or un-appreciation (which is why the fluffy kittens section is quite good)

so many shots i see these days are textbook shots that don't capture a lot of character or feel, granted they're good shots but i sometimes ponder whether this want for perfection or perfect technique gets in the way of people looking at what they're photographing or even why they're photographing it.

+2p :P

P.S - good quality replies here peeps *round of applause*

[Rob_W]

I post mine because god phoned me on my mobile and i insisted i do so IMMEDIATELY!!
No i didnt !!! ... :p

I post them to get feedback on what i could have done differently, ie, throw the camera away ... :lol:

[gazedd]

I post images because:
I produce the best I can but feel that there are much better photographers out there that can give me *Free* and *true* advice on the specific shot I have taken.
No Book can do this nor DVD.
I feel the level of photographs some people produce are supreame and TBH, I want to join them. I have years ahead of me where I can improve on my shots and learn about the shot rather then just pressing a button.

Today I learnt a simple lesson of not being afriad to set up a shot to make it look none-setup, And not to be afraid to get close to your subjects.
And guess who/what taught me this?
A book? - No
A DVD? - No
A Human that signs on to TalkPhotography and gave up some of their valuable time to take an Ametuer out with them and understand why they do what they do - Yes!
Money cannot buy real life experinces that can be offered from just some simple advice from the freindly people of TP.

(All IMO of course ;))

[susie]

I post if I need processing help or a bird ID, otherwise I may put something in the FKCC area but not anywhere for c&c.
Its NOT a case of me not wanting to improve - I do very much want to, but I prefer to go through things with someone I know who will sit down and go through things constructively and help me rather than put them on the forum.
I spent a couple of hours this afternoon doing just that and have a much better idea of how to set up that sort of shot and how to process them, plus I have come away happier and feeling that I am heading in the right direction.

[BRASH]

I Like being ignored:p

[maddog.mark]

I Like being ignored:p

somebody say something:naughty:

I post for a variety of reasons, sometimes just to share, sometimes in the hope of learning from the experience and views of others.

One thing I do know is that I'm better photographer today than I was when I joined TP:thumbs:

Mark

[foggy4ever]

I post some(if I think they're good) just to share most go on flickr, all C&C is welcome as I consider myself a newbie I'm always looking to improve. I prefer flickr for just looking at photos as its easier to search for a chosen subject. I've only been on TP since January but I think it's a great community with a wealth of varied opinions and experience.

[RichardC27]

I post everything I'm happy with to Flickr, as a record for myself rather than anything else. I do like to show off shots I'm proud of though, on here and on Flickr, as I like to hear other people's opinions on them, good or bad. I post to learn as well, I've learnt a lot and my photography has improved massively since I joined TP in Septemer 08.

[Big_Ham]

It's nice to get an impartial, and a variety of opinions. When friends and family look at my shots I usually take what they say with a pinch of salt as I feel they are a little careful about upsetting me. Whereas on here you lot don't care. :-D

I'd probably take the 1000 normal people over the 10 pros. What makes a good photo to a pro doesn't make a good photo to a punter, and it's the punters that we sell to.

[Ajophotog]

I post in the hope that people enjoy what I show and take something from it and so indirectly improve their photography. I get a lot of inspiration and ideas from others on here and other places I visit in the digital world. I get more out of this forum participating I'm sure then if I didn't post at all.

[Gvozdi]

It would boring to shot for myself only, and it is great to get feedback.

And of course "inspiration and ideas from others on here" (c)Ajophotog

[yoby]

Indoors, the only pictures I take that get a reaction when displayed or printed are the "snaps" - The ones of the kids, the dogs, etc. etc.
Any attempts at carefully composed, or planned photo's tend to be met with a "it's nice but what did you take one of that for?" kind of response.

At work, because I'm a miserable git, everyone like everything because their too afraid of giving me the hump.

I tend to post here the ones I'm happy with, but feel could be improved, in the hope that someone (or several someones) will offer honest opinions, and suggestions for improvement, things that could be done differently and so on.

Unfortunately, most of the ones I do post usually only elicit one response before they drop off of the radar.

[awp]

I post a few pics on here - usually because I like them and just want others to see them - hopefully for their enjoyment. I'm not looking for C&C. I do this for a living so what people think here doesn't really matter as long as the people commisioning the work are happy. Many of my shots are seen in print by thousands but maybe some people can learn from seeing some of them? I try to give helpful C&C when people are asking for it - but many people here don't like the truth and just want the 'great shot' comment. I hope that doesn't come across in any way as arrogant because it isn't meant to. If people really want to see my work they can follow the links in my sig to see more.

[EdinburghGary]

I have not been posting much as not taken much....However.

First and foremost:
Crit.

Anything else is a bonus. Obviously its nice to get praise, and I enjoy a bit of banter too :)

Gary.

[Gonetae]

I usually post pics with the sole purpose of hoping to receive advice or critique to help me improve. Other times it's just for the fun of sharing pics with others.

[Cobra]

Post script

So any other suggestions as to what we would discuss if pictures were not posted
on a ( this) photography forum :shrug:

[neilmac]

I Like being ignored:p

Oh yes, that as well :D

[mikeward]

no my sig has nothing too do with it, as im not asking for people to comment on any of the pics on there.

well decided as i posted a few opinions on other peopled pics i should post my own.

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=122884

[richpips]

I post pics on here, as it is good to see what other photographers think.

Sometimes I get praise, and sometimes I get slated, and as someone above said one occasionally gets ignored.

Praise means you've ticked the photographers box and then some.

Slated, tends to mean you've deviated from the norm, or have made a stupid mistake.

Ignored imo, means the pic is so so.

It's all good though.

[Paul_UK]

I post on here for advice and constructive criticism, nothing more.
But if all I get is "I don't like it" I'll just dismiss the comment as pointless
as I'm not interested in other peoples personal taste.

[Grockle]

I post to get crit and hopefully on the odd occassion to give a little bit of pleasure if and when I manage to produce an image that some enjoy looking at.

The fact that everybody's view is subjective is very important as it means you can end up with a wide ranging list of enhancement ideas.

[Trappe]

I like the feedback, because sometimes there are things about my photos that I don't see or catch until someone else points it out. It's very helpful!


You took the words right out of my mouth.

I have had some great tips on things in my photo that I never spotted !!

[Tyke Tiler]

Criticism. Interaction. Encouragement and Faith.

The thing that worries me is I'm seeing a lot of the 'I don't really care for crit too much, if my paying clients are happy then I don't care what other folk have to say about my pictures'.

I think that stinks.

Sorry but with all due respect to our cherished and beloved clients, they don't know diddly about evolving or what is important about how to survive or push ones self as a photographer. That's our job!

If they did, they wouldn't be hiring you would they?

Clients care about the end result, they won't give a flying one if someone pops along who can do better than you, they'll just hire them instead.

It's up to you to stay afloat.

I've not one client complain but I've had a few jobs that have upset me as I wanted to give my best but restrictions, time sensitivity or budget has prevented me from doing so.
The client was still happy, I was not.

The thing is, if either you selectively subject the fruits of your work to only one audience or if you hide your work away from the whole waking world then it makes a very clear statement:

'I can't handle it'.

If Joe Bloggs who has a dibble in photography whenever he gets a chance but hasn't the time to learn or progress as fast as someone who takes a living from photography and they make a comment on your photo, your basically guaranteeing that his/her opinion is worthless?

What if they happen to be to be a very skilled carpenter or similar and they understand and appreciate the shape and tones of beautiful craftsmanship?

Who says what they say about your work isn't going to strike a note with you or maybe change the way you perceive what you were trying to achieve and your methods?

They make make a comment that makes no sense and has no merit or use to you but what's the problem?

What's the risk? What's the damage?

What your saying is 'I can't be helped by anyone other than my clients'.

[artona]

I think crit is the wrong word - photo-development is better.

Incidently I read the bit about comments by 10 professionals. There is nothing to say a professional is going to give better comments than someone who does not make his money from the art

stew

[hepburn]

I also like the social side of the forum especialy when there is a bit of a scrap over views :D

Say it ain't so :lol:

I post mine because god phoned me on my mobile and i insisted i do so IMMEDIATELY!!

Ashers? Is that you? :suspect: :lol:

And of course "inspiration and ideas from others on here" (c)Ajophotog

Yep, I pick up a lot of ideas from here, usually locations rather than techniques though.

So any other suggestions as to what we would discuss if pictures were not posted on a ( this) photography forum :shrug:

Jade Goody? :naughty: :exit:

[alexkidd]

I can see what you're saying tomas but personally i don't have the patience or want to listen to other peoples opinions on my photos that i already like and think are fine.

i like the photos thus it makes me happy
the client likes their photo it makes them happy

garnering criticism from an intarweb forum isn't the only way to improve your photography, infact i'd say it'd gear more towards staleness as it's the same rules and generalisations used again and again by the masses.

and i'd definately have to disagree with the can't handle it statement

just because i can handle idiots trying to give me a kicking in the street doesn't mean i want to :P

[foodpoison]

I can see what you're saying tomas but personally i don't have the patience or want to listen to other peoples opinions on my photos that i already like and think are fine.

i like the photos thus it makes me happy
the client likes their photo it makes them happy

garnering criticism from an intarweb forum isn't the only way to improve your photography, infact i'd say it'd gear more towards staleness as it's the same rules and generalisations used again and again by the masses.

and i'd definately have to disagree with the can't handle it statement

just because i can handle idiots trying to give me a kicking in the street doesn't mean i want to :P

I think you're wrong about the 'stale criticism'.
People offer tips mostly on composition and technique.

Contextually your photos might be stunning, but if you can't figure out how to expose both your subject and the background correctly, then you're in a bit of poo.

I post my photos first and foremost for tips on composition and technique.

People know what's aesthetically pleasing to them, it's not as if they have a set of BBFC guidelines that say "no that's not right, do this".
If it works, it works.
If it doesn't, figure out why, and comment on it.

People on here aren't stupid, and while some of them might still be learning about the formal elements, it helps to get feedback from a big audience so that when the day comes when your photography becomes stale, you'll have somewhere else to help you other than your clients who aren't hiring you because someone can do it better!

[foodpoison]

garnering criticism from an intarweb forum isn't the only way to improve your photography,

No, it's not, but it's a very good way to do it.
Some of the first photos I took were ridiculous.
I thought they were amazing, but looking back now, they're pretty dire. Both in concept and technique. Compositionally they were pretty much fine because I always knew, right from the off-set, what made a good shot. I just had the eye.
What I didn't have however was the know-how. I had no idea how to create the image, I just knew in my head what I wanted it to look like.

[EdinburghGary]

The thing is, if either you selectively subject the fruits of your work to only one audience or if you hide your work away from the whole waking world then it makes a very clear statement:

'I can't handle it'.

If Joe Bloggs who has a dibble in photography whenever he gets a chance but hasn't the time to learn or progress as fast as someone who takes a living from photography and they make a comment on your photo, your basically guaranteeing that his/her opinion is worthless?

What if they happen to be to be a very skilled carpenter or similar and they understand and appreciate the shape and tones of beautiful craftsmanship?

Who says what they say about your work isn't going to strike a note with you or maybe change the way you perceive what you were trying to achieve and your methods?

They make make a comment that makes no sense and has no merit or use to you but what's the problem?

What's the risk? What's the damage?

What your saying is 'I can't be helped by anyone other than my clients'.

Amen bro. You always talk sense. There are one or two on here whose photos I choose to ignore, due to their "can't / won't take crit" Bull ****. Some of the episodes on these forums in the past, as a result of the "Throwing the dummy out the pram" after a photo is CONSTRUCTIVELY critisized have been insane. Grown individuals having a tantrum because a few people trying ot help have one or two snippets of input, which MIGHT help improve the photo.

It's a sad state of affairs, and ultimately, the people who take that approach only have themselves to blame when all they ever get is "Oooooh GREAT shot". Really bugs the hell out of me.

Gary.

[scotslasszoe]

I Like being ignored:p


Haahahahah:lol:

I post on here because i have had lots of feedback on if my images look ok Eg all my pictures were so dark. On my screen they looked ok but every body elses they were dark.

If i didnt post on here they would still be dark;)

:wave:

[swag72]

This thread will certainly save me some time and thinking that's for sure!

I have read now about some who imply that they would not value any comments I have to make. I am nothing other than a learner and hobbyist, who has taken a great deal away from other peoples constructive comments and help.

In turn, I feel that I should try to put some of that back, otherwise how will people ever see anything than their own perfection - Clearly with some I won't even try to bother :|

[markelliot]

I will not lie... I post for two reasons...

I post pictures that I think are good so I can get other people to reasure me that they are good... or tell me with that idea ...its rubbish dont waste any more time on it!

I post pics where I have a technical problem or an issue... simply to get the answer on how to solve the problem.

[EdBray]

Do you need the criticism?
Aren't you happy with what you produce?
Do you want smoke blowing up your arse?
Are you just taking part for the social element?
How much weight do you put into the opinions of fellow forum users?
Would you prefer criticism from 1000 hobbyists or 10 professionals with a large understanding of your field and proven skill?

Blah blah blah... :)

There is no positive or negative slant to this btw it's merely for discussion and all that (considering it's a friday and none of you will have anything better to do) :P

Pretty much all of the above in various degrees!
Do you need the criticism?
Only the most arrogant person would be of a belief that he could not improve. I always welcome criticism from others as it helps me to see what I may have missed, how I may improve in the future and to what level I feel am currently attaining.
Aren't you happy with what you produce?
Pretty much, but what suits me may well not suit another, and I can gain an insight into what may be required in my photographs to appeal to more people.
Do you want smoke blowing up your arse?
Not particularly, although good comments help to reassure you that you are on the right road and this breeds confidence to attemp new things.
Are you just taking part for the social element?
Yes, very much so, I have a very small circle of friends (few of which are particularly interested in photography) work long hours at times and find the various forums an escape from the crap that is usually on the TV.[
How much weight do you put into the opinions of fellow forum users?
For the most part I accept any criticism (good or bad) in the manner in which I hope it has been given. All criticism even that from relative newcomers to photography may benefit me, and any discourse on the critisism may well help others as well as myself to understand how to improve, or maybe why something was done in the way that it was.
Would you prefer criticism from 1000 hobbyists or 10 professionals with a large understanding of your field and proven skill?
Don't mind, I have seen many hobbyist's work which far outstrips some professional's work, I have listened to professionals judging competitions and some are so arrogant and far up their own arse as to be ludicrusly bad at giving helpful positive criticism. Everyone has an opinion, and just because someone gets paid to take pictures does not mean that they are always right or better than someone who's interest in photography is purely a hobby.

[crusher]

Do you need the criticism?

I post my pics mainly to share the ones I like and occasionally to get another opinion on something I'm not sure about. I'll happily take all the crit I'm given as I'd also like to improve my photography.

Aren't you happy with what you produce?

Not always (in fact, I'm rarely completely happy), but I tend not to post those ones anyway.

Do you want smoke blowing up your arse?

No. But it's always nice to get positive comments if that's what you mean. When I first started posting, getting positive comments gave me the motivation to keep trying.

Are you just taking part for the social element?

Definately. As others have said, I don't have many friends who are into photography and it's good to "chat" and share with like-minded people. I have also attended meets and met some great people - and got some good advice and help.

How much weight do you put into the opinions of fellow forum users?

Normally, a good deal. I particularly value opinions given by those whose work I admire. I don't get hung up on it though.

Would you prefer criticism from 1000 hobbyists or 10 professionals with a large understanding of your field and proven skill?

It doesn't really matter either way, providing the crit is constructive. It is nice if they know what they are talking about though :lol:

Blah blah blah... :)

Overall, joining this forum has been and continues to be a positive experience for me.

There is no positive or negative slant to this btw it's merely for discussion and all that (considering it's a friday and none of you will have anything better to do) :P

[Tyke Tiler]

I can see what you're saying tomas but personally i don't have the patience or want to listen to other peoples opinions on my photos that i already like and think are fine.

Interesting, Can you tell me why you would you need patience to receive open criticism?

You also chose the word 'fine'. Are fine photo's really good enough for you? That's 'fine', it fills the gap, it serves a purpose and does the job kinda fine?


i like the photos thus it makes me happy
the client likes their photo it makes them happy

Ok, no offense but how can you or your clients know it all?


Garnering criticism from an intarweb forum isn't the only way to improve your photography, infact i'd say it'd gear more towards staleness as it's the same rules and generalisations used again and again by the masses.

No, but receiving thoughts and comments from the masses as you put it is one way of improving and your closing off it off and shutting it down. Variance of perception is invaluable, to shut it out in any form is to encourage one way traffic don't you think?


and i'd definately have to disagree with the 'can't handle it statement'

just because i can handle idiots trying to give me a kicking in the street doesn't mean i want to :P

A kicking?, a revealing choice of analogy there.

Personally, I would like to see your work, I can't see your work because your not allowing it to be open for discussion.

How does that sound to you?

The fact that you posted this thread and posed the question in the first place suggests that you do actually care what the 'masses' think.

[fracster]

I Like being ignored:p

Good job,ain`t it?...........:D

[fracster]

I post mine because they are not brilliant,I know it,but need better photographers to tell me where `im going wrong.Lots on here do,so gradually i`m improving,I think............:cuckoo:

[EdBray]

I post mine because they are not brilliant,I know it,but need better photographers to tell me where `im going wrong.Lots on here do,so gradually i`m improving,I think............:cuckoo:

Nah! :p

[alexkidd]

Interesting, Can you tell me why you would you need patience to receive open criticism?

Because i'd probably have to wade through a lot of standard "you're not using the rule of thirds" type stuff and although there are a lot of nice people on this forum there are a lot of ********s as well (i'll cover this later)

You also chose the word 'fine'. Are fine photo's really good enough for you? That's 'fine', it fills the gap, it serves a purpose and does the job kinda fine?

Fine to me is like good, i'm rarely amazed at my own work or others tbh, stuff is either ok/fine or mindblowingly good. I'm probably overly judgemental

Ok, no offense but how can you or your clients know it all?

They probably don't but without getting into a theoretical debate about time invested/improvement gained/money earned etc the short of it is if they pay then i'm happy...in much the same way as if i'm dj'ing i'm playing a shed load of music i hate but the chimps are loving :P


No, but receiving thoughts and comments from the masses as you put it is one way of improving and your closing off it off and shutting it down. Variance of perception is invaluable, to shut it out in any form is to encourage one way traffic don't you think?

Yes and no, as i've said before this place has a mixture of personalities good and bad, and frankly this is somewhere i come for a relaxing read if i'm honest.

I'm not really saying i'd never post a photo on here i've just not had a need to so far that outweighs dealing with the stuff that comes with it.


A kicking?, a revealing choice of analogy there.

Well basically it's something that isn't pleasant, in the same way as dealing with people being arses about photographs on here means that i might improve my photography, fighting with arses in the street means i get to practice my forearm smash :P

either isn't pleasant and relaxing though which i suppose is my main aim when i'm reading this forum :)

Personally, I would like to see your work, I can't see your work because your not allowing it to be open for discussion.

You've got an email with a zip file now :P

How does that sound to you?

The fact that you posted this thread and posed the question in the first place suggests that you do actually care what the 'masses' think.

I was in irc and asked the people in there so figured might as well include the community at large so made the thread, rather than actually caring what the masses think it's more a curiosity, if i cared it'd be because i'd have an aim at the end like developing the forum to help people better in some way but i don't so it's just curiosity :)

You make a lot of sense and i rarely disagree with you, i think it's basically down to people using the forum for different things..apologys if i seem blunt in any way i'm not trying to be an arse i'm just not very good with dressing my words up. :)

[Cuddy]

I enjoy sharing my photos with like-minded people. I look forward to reading what they think of my efforts.
I love to see other peoples images, and see and learn how to do things differently.

I like the fact that this site is well grounded, with down to earth members.

[Tyke Tiler]

zip file sent

You got mail! :thumbs:

[fracster]

Nah! :p

Thanks.......:D

[Dom]

Because I'm neurotic, insecure and a psychiatrist dream and just want to be accepted and loved.

[experiment]

I want attention.

Seriously though, because a lot of my shots suck and I want to get better.

[Myky D]

Like everyone else I like showing off.

I'm interested in constructive criticism, but people that "state facts" about "wrong" or "bad" photography are wrong - professional or no. One can only ever offer a subjective opinion.

[Edward Bancroft]

It's mostly to get other people's opinions . Some photos that I like get a negative review, whereas other shots that I do not rate much can be given a very positive response.

Sometimes others see things good/bad in a photo that I had not realised were there. You learn from it.

Ed

[TG.]

I post my football stuff cos I know they're good and like to show them off.

Very modest :lol:

[WeddingHack]

Do you need the criticism?
Aren't you happy with what you produce?
Do you want smoke blowing up your arse?
Are you just taking part for the social element?
How much weight do you put into the opinions of fellow forum users?
Would you prefer criticism from 1000 hobbyists or 10 professionals with a large understanding of your field and proven skill?

Blah blah blah... :)

There is no positive or negative slant to this btw it's merely for discussion and all that (considering it's a friday and none of you will have anything better to do) :P

To share - 'I thought this looked cool, take a look'. Personally I don't see much point in taking a photo and no-one else being able to see it. If someone wants to crit them, thank you very much. My job is getting paid to share what I see, can't be bad.

[foodpoison]

Very modest :lol:

I liked that too. haha.

[TG.]

I post mine because they are not brilliant,I know it,but need better photographers to tell me where `im going wrong.Lots on here do,so gradually i`m improving,I think............:cuckoo:

Same as above i would say, although i don't take enough photos to improve myself, which is obviously down to me, one thing i don't like though is when someone is up there own arse and thinks there photos are great when they are clearly not, and then tries to give advice to others on how to do it, fortunately it's only a couple who do that, and that's not just my opinion by the way, as i'm sure i'm opening myself up for a slating for saying that :gag:

[..MD..]

, one thing i don't like though is when someone is up there own arse and thinks there photos are great when they are clearly not, and then tries to give advice to others on how to do it, fortunately it's only a couple who do that, and that's not just my opinion by the way, as i'm sure i'm opening myself up for a slating for saying that :gag:


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[TG.]

I liked that too. haha.

Was you tempted then :lol:

[TG.]

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md:suspect:

Lol definitely wasn't referring to you Dave :)

[zarozinia]

Several reasons for me. Sometimes I am chuffed with one and want to share it with others or maybe its an unusual subject matter such as my reptiles that I think others may like to see, other times I want constructive critiscism to help me to learn in that area of photography. I hate getting replies that just say lovely image or similar,Ii would rather get a reply saying how I could improve it.
I also really enjoy looking through other peoples images

[Markk]

I post for numerous reasons.
Some pictures need criticism so I can improve. Some how my improvement. Sometimes I participate for the social aspect. Some pictures I think are good enough to share and may even put a smile on someone's face.
As to who looks at the pictures, it really doesn't matter to me. If those 1000 hobbyist enjoy it more than the 10 professionals or vice versa, it's ok for me.

[Vantage]

I looked into a photography course and they COST! So I use TP. Saved me a bundle of cash, This place has the lot. No college could offer that for bugger all. Now I can spend the cash i saved on a .....dirty weekend! :naughty:

[Splog]

Simple answer to the OP is that I have no one else to share my pics with! :hug: