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What are people guesses on this? I'm going to be buying a D300 at the end of this month, but don't want to get it to find out the D400 is coming out in a few weeks.
I can only just afford a D300 so if the price was much more on the 400 it would be out of the question anyway.
Your thoughts?
Prices of just-launched cameras are always close to RRP rather than discount to fleece those gadget freaks with more money than sense.
I've no idea if the D400 is due soon - how long is the traditional Nikon release cycle for this model?
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 15:22
If it's going to be announced on the 14th then expect it to start appearing in the shops at the end of October
markymark
10-04-2009, 15:26
Hi,
I was in the same boat for a D200/D300.
Saved all my cash for a D200 waited for ages, then asked Nikon Sales/Customer reps when the D300 was due, they told me that there was nothing in the pipeline... a month later the D300 came out and i was really pi**ed at them. Needless to say i kept my D200 for about 6 months after that and then traded it in for a far superior D300... low light is a lot better on the D300...
As for the D400 ???? depends really on your needs but the usual is that the prices will be way higher for a while anyway.
Kind Regards
Markymark
Don't think they'll be a massive step up in terms of features from the D400, HD Video, more MP etc.
Can't wait to Oct, so i'll get the D300 I think :)
Tyke Tiler
10-04-2009, 16:03
If it's going to be announced on the 14th then expect it to start appearing in the shops at the end of October
Sounds about right, I think the quickest stock to appear after release was the 35mm DX lens? Everything else takes a right age.
Apparently it's an entry level model being released this month. :shrug:
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 16:05
Pricewise.......
an rrp of £1599? :shrug:
fracster
10-04-2009, 16:05
Pricewise.......
an rrp of £1599? :shrug:
D700 territory?................:shrug:
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 16:08
No, because the rrp of the D700 is now £2199 :nuts:
Certainly looks like there's a low end model being released soon, works out timing wise.
I'd expect a D400 to be announced some time between now and August. That's quite vague, isn't it? I should be a fortune teller.
hyakuhei
10-04-2009, 16:14
Awww man - I love my D300 but I know when that D400 comes out its going to be full of "features" I've always wanted - I just never knew about :bonk:
Although tbh, if it drives the price of the D300 down much I think I'll just buy another one to use as a second body. At the moment I think the D300 is pretty much perfect for me, unless the D400 has some amazing things going for it (faster all points AF, huge buffer for aviation shooting) I'm not going to be that bothered about upgrading.
fracster
10-04-2009, 16:18
No, because the rrp of the D700 is now £2199 :nuts:
Ah well......that is out of the equation now.............:thumbsdown:
Edit...still knocking about a 17-18 hundred.
hyakuhei
10-04-2009, 16:21
Ah well......that is out of the equation now.............:thumbsdown:
£1744 at warehouse express
£1739 at park cameras
hurry up and buy one fracster :bonk:
fracster
10-04-2009, 16:26
Depends on how much of my money the lovely Taxman decides to give me back that I leant him last year,interest free of course.......:bang:
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 16:30
Of course, it may be that the D300 won't get replaced at all, as Nikon drive the prosumer end of the market towards FF....
fracster
10-04-2009, 16:33
You reckon Flashy?........Hmmmmm....could be some cheapish 300`s knocking about if that is the case,but would also mean the death of a lot of DX lenses as the crop bodies get sidelined.In fact, I cannot see Nikon doing that at all.........:suspect:
hyakuhei
10-04-2009, 16:36
Not everyone wants to move to FF - Action shooters of all guises (motor, ball, aviation etc) have greatly benefited from the extra reach given by crop bodies
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 16:45
I don't mean that they would discontinue the D300 and leave a huge gap between the D90 and D700, rather that they would just leave things as they were for the moment and phase the prosumer cropped cameras out over the next year or so
Personally i would go for full frame, and hopefully will in a few months, i was hoping about May time, but now it's looking more like July and that will be my last camera for a good few years, hang on didn't i say that with the D300 :D , then my D300 will be up for sale, i agree with flash and i also think in a few years we will be mostly full frame, i've never seen the argument about having extra reach on a cropped lens, surely if you have a 300mm lens on a cropped or full frame body it stays a 300mm lens, on full frame you would just crop in photoshop, now i've started something :lol:
With the inflated state of the 2nd hand market at them moment I wouldn't hold your breath for 'knock-down price' D300's. :)
I wouldn't bother speculating on the 'D400' until something is officially announced by Nikon.
fracster
10-04-2009, 16:51
Yeah,but,mebbe,I think.........the 700 and 300 have very similar pixel count on the sensor,so a cropped 700 pic would not contain as much detail as an uncropped 300 pic,using the same lens of course.......:shrug:
Okay, I might be able to stretch to a D700 as I was planning on getting some fast glass too with the D300.
Okay, if I went full frame, I know I would have to sell my 10-20, but could I keep my 50-150 Sigma? I really don't want to get rid of it as I love it.
foggy4ever
10-04-2009, 17:08
DX vs FX. I made a nubie comment about 'extra length on DX' in a thread and was shot down by cowasaki and puddleduck.
quote from cowasaki
It doesn't actually give you extra length. That is exactly like getting a pair of glasses painting the lenses black but leaving a small hole in the middle and calling them zoom glasses!
You are not actually getting any more zoom you are just looking at the middle of the picture blown up. Just like loading a picture into photoshop and sliding the magnify bar.
I was put in my place that day, hopefuly in a friendly way:shrug:
Tyke Tiler
10-04-2009, 17:12
...quote from cowasaki
It doesn't actually give you extra length. That is exactly like getting a pair of glasses painting the lenses black but leaving a small hole in the middle and calling them zoom glasses!
:lol: That's very funny and true I'm afraid, no harm's meant by it.
Been crunching the numbers, I would have to sell all the glass I have now to get a D700, and then would only be able to afford a 50mm 1.4, I couldn't go back to that.
fracster
10-04-2009, 17:15
Been crunching the numbers, I would have to sell all the glass I have now to get a D700, and then would only be able to afford a 50mm 1.4, I couldn't go back to that.
Yep, I would have to sell two lenses to get the 700,two lenses that I rather like.Difficult decision to make...........:bang:
foggy4ever
10-04-2009, 17:21
Have been looking at an upgrade for next year D700/300. My plan will be to get CC with 12months interest free on purchasers and pay monthly. If the prices settles at a sensible level thats about £85/£150 per month.
fracster
10-04-2009, 17:25
Maybe ok for you mate, but I don`t do credit ,called me old fashioned I suppose.........:D
hyakuhei
10-04-2009, 17:27
Yep, I would have to sell two lenses to get the 700,two lenses that I rather like.Difficult decision to make...........:bang:
Pffft - sell them! You'll get a new camera and make some TPer's very happy! (Not to mention what a great time it is financially to sell lenses)
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 17:29
Have been looking at an upgrade for next year D700/300. My plan will be to get CC with 12months interest free on purchasers and pay monthly. If the prices settles at a sensible level thats about £85/£150 per month.
£150/month? That's a car payment, not a camera body one :cuckoo:
Whatever happened to saving up until you had enough to buy something outright?
fracster
10-04-2009, 17:31
Its a bloody mortgage to us old codgers............:lol:
thats one hell of a monthly outlay
plus the fact once you've got the goods you never seem so keen make another "X amount" of payments , thats me any way !
foggy4ever
10-04-2009, 17:33
Nope. Car payments £280 over 5 years. No point in saving at the minute with poor interest rates. My solution suites me.;)
Qwerty69
10-04-2009, 17:34
If it were my money, I'd wait until the D400 is released and the price on the D300 starts to drop and then buy one of those.
Unless that is the D400 has some killer feature that you just can't live without ;)
No, because the rrp of the D700 is now £2199 :nuts:
:eek: Blimey! I paid £1,500 for my D700 (UK-AD) at the beginning of the year which was not THAT long ago! :eek:
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 17:40
Nope. Car payments £280 over 5 years. No point in saving at the minute with poor interest rates. My solution suites me.;)
I hope it was a new car.....
fracster
10-04-2009, 17:42
I hope it was a new car.....
If so,£16800 total, depreciation on a 5 year old car,that is a spanking.............:eek:
Tyke Tiler
10-04-2009, 17:43
Pricewise.......
an rrp of £1599? :shrug:
:eek: Blimey! I paid £1,500 for my D700 (UK-AD) at the beginning of the year which was not THAT long ago! :eek:
Yah, there's been two increases since then and rumours of more! :gag:
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 17:47
If so,£16800 total, depreciation on a 5 year old car,that is a spanking.............:eek:
I had a car recently that was 18months old and it had lost 75% of it's new price ;)
Imagine if you had interest on top of that :lol:
foggy4ever
10-04-2009, 17:49
If so,£16800 total, depreciation on a 5 year old car,that is a spanking.............:eek:
Its a Honda Civic . It was new 2 years ago, if people were scared of depreciation no body would buy a new car. All cars depreciate but my Honda hold its value alot better than most.
fracster
10-04-2009, 17:51
Hey,its your brass mate, do what you wish...........:thumbs:
You should see some of the crap cars I have had,still have and wasted money on.......:lol:
I would be buying it out right. I do believe in credit cards though, if theres a good interest rate on savings, and you had 10k in savings, you could then get a 0% for 12 CC, buy the camera, and in the 12 months the money you would have spent on the camera would have gained a lot of interest form the savings. So you could look at it as a discount. :)
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 17:52
Its a Honda Civic . It was new 2 years ago, if people were scared of depreciation no body would buy a new car. All cars depreciate but my Honda hold its value alot better than most.
My car's gone up in value since I bought it :lol:
I've never had that before :shrug:
foggy4ever
10-04-2009, 17:58
You should see some of the crap cars I have had,still have and wasted money on.......:lol:
Been there done that:D The Honda was the first time I went new, well worth it the deisel engine is fantastic.
My car's gone up in value since I bought it :lol:
I've never had that before :shrug:
How? full tank of petrol:lol:
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 17:59
Been there done that:D The Honda was the first time I went new, well worth it the deisel engine is fantastic.
How? full tank of petrol:lol:
Nope, because I didn't buy new :razz:
Okay, I might be able to stretch to a D700 as I was planning on getting some fast glass too with the D300.
Okay, if I went full frame, I know I would have to sell my 10-20, but could I keep my 50-150 Sigma? I really don't want to get rid of it as I love it.
It's a DX lens. It will work on the D700 but only in 5mp DX mode.
Nope. Car payments £280 over 5 years. No point in saving at the minute with poor interest rates. My solution suites me.;)
I'm sure there's a joke about sofa's to be had there....:D
fracster
10-04-2009, 18:04
Nope, because I didn't buy new :razz:
My 25 year old red one is worth a bob or two......:)
foggy4ever
10-04-2009, 18:09
Nope, because I didn't buy new :razz:
Mine was an ex demo so not totally new but about 3k below new price.
Watch out for the spelling police:bonk:
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 18:40
My 25 year old red one is worth a bob or two......:)
:thinking:
:thinking:
:schtum:
:lol:
jonnyjogpants
10-04-2009, 18:40
was meant to go and collect a new D300 today,
should i buy it or wait for the new D400.
D300 = £1049.00 through a nikon dealer.
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 18:41
was meant to go and collect a new D300 today,
should i buy it or wait for the new D400.
D300 = £1049.00 through a nikon dealer.
That's what I paid for mine, 14 months ago :lol:
jonnyjogpants
10-04-2009, 19:03
its just so annoying that the ressession has happened, all prices have gone up.
i would have bought one when they where dirt cheap, but now i have the cash i dont know what to buy.
to be honest not sure if i wanna go full frame due to the lost of the crop factor and i love motor racing so this is very benifical have the DX sensor.
love my D80 and really wanna upgrade now.
Yep, I would have to sell two lenses to get the 700,two lenses that I rather like.Difficult decision to make...........:bang:
Yes but you have to look at the bigger picture if you will pardon the pun :D, once you have your D700 you just start your FF lens collection over again, takes time but it's worth it in the end i think, this is what my plan is anyway, i think it's the way forward, just moving with the times really, but just MHO.
That's what I paid for mine, 14 months ago :lol:
Me too that's what i paid for my D300, I,m sure the D700 was less than £1500 in some places at the beginning of the year, which is gutting really as i'm also sure there were places doing it 10 months interest free credit :bang: i guess i'm just going to have to wear it unless something drastic happens between now and July/August time.
Whatever happened to saving up until you had enough to buy something outright?
How do you think the world go into this financial mess, the media told everyone they were going to lose their jobs so everybody stopped spending and started saving so the government dropped the interest rates so it's not worth saving to make everybody spend again :bonk:
:thinking:
:thinking:
:schtum:
:lol:
The above!! :lol: http://www.smileys4me.com/getsmiley.php?show=417:lol:
fracster
10-04-2009, 22:26
How do you think the world go into this financial mess, the media told everyone they were going to lose their jobs so everybody stopped spending and started saving so the government dropped the interest rates so it's not worth saving to make everybody spend again :bonk:
Sorry mate,disagree, people lived way beyond thier means,using thier houses as cashpoints to draw imaginitive money that they did not have.Don`t blame the banks,media nor anybody else,the big time Charlies got caught with thier pants down.Serves `em right...........:p
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 22:30
Sorry mate,disagree, people lived way beyond thier means,using thier houses as cashpoints to draw imaginitive money that they did not have.Don`t blame the banks,media nor anybody else,the big time Charlies got caught with thier pants down.Serves `em right...........:p
Surely it must be someone-else's fault? :shrug:
fracster
10-04-2009, 22:37
Surely it must be someone-else's fault? :shrug:
Aye, it appears it is mine and people like me who did not overspend,did not finance everything on bullsh credit terms or owe monies left right and centre.It must be my fault because i`m getting nailed to the bloody floor on my savings interest.........Sorry, I just swore by mentioning saving rather than spending,silly me.
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 22:44
Just wait 'til this quantitative easing causes the pound to go the way the mark did in 1924 ;)
fracster
10-04-2009, 22:49
Just wait 'til this quantitative easing causes the pound to go the way the mark did in 1924 ;)
Bestill my beating heart Graham............:D
Gold,the oldest currency and the best..............:)
Flash In The Pan
10-04-2009, 22:51
Gold,the oldest currency and the best..............:)
But will Jessops accept that for a D400?
See what I did there? :D:thumbs:
fracster
10-04-2009, 22:55
Nope,i`ve had beer and shall retire forthwith............:lol:
Aye, it appears it is mine and people like me who did not overspend,did not finance everything on bullsh credit terms or owe monies left right and centre.It must be my fault because i`m getting nailed to the bloody floor on my savings interest.........Sorry, I just swore by mentioning saving rather than spending,silly me.
:agree:
He has a very valid point you know!:bat:
Aye, it appears it is mine and people like me who did not overspend,did not finance everything on bullsh credit terms or owe monies left right and centre.It must be my fault because i`m getting nailed to the bloody floor on my savings interest.........Sorry, I just swore by mentioning saving rather than spending,silly me.
No.... I think its my fault ! I've got no debts except my mortgage , nothing on credit , everything I possess is paid for and I still lost my job , Haven't found anything yet and now I've had 6 mths of contribution based Job seekers allowance they've stopped that because my wife works ! makes me proud to have paid Taxes none stop for 26 years
early morning rant over ...........
Me too that's what i paid for my D300, I,m sure the D700 was less than £1500 in some places at the beginning of the year, which is gutting really as i'm also sure there were places doing it 10 months interest free credit :bang: i guess i'm just going to have to wear it unless something drastic happens between now and July/August time.
At the beginning of the year the D700 was £1274 at Dixons Tax-Free (yes, I have that figure etched in my memory). :'(
was meant to go and collect a new D300 today,
should i buy it or wait for the new D400.
D300 = £1049.00 through a nikon dealer.
The D400 is still vapourware AFAIK...
Martyn...
11-04-2009, 11:35
The D400 is still vapourware AFAIK...
No they are made from unobtainium :D
hyakuhei
11-04-2009, 11:45
No they are made from unobtainium :D
Like most nikon gear then!
Tyke Tiler
11-04-2009, 11:46
No they are made from unobtainium :D
Like most nikon gear then!
:lol::lol: Very witty boys :clap:
No they are made from unobtainium :D
And they say you learn something new every day....I just have! :D
Like most nikon gear then!
No, just D400's and 300mm AF-S f/4's. :lol:
Martyn...
11-04-2009, 12:02
No, just D400's and 300mm AF-S f/4's. :lol:
My 300mm f4 AF-S is not made of unobtainium, I think razor blades its that sharp :D
My 300mm f4 AF-S is not made of unobtainium, I think razor blades its that sharp :D
It was a nod in the direction of hyakuhei as he's having trouble sourcing one. ;)
hyakuhei
11-04-2009, 13:47
It was a nod in the direction of hyakuhei as he's having trouble sourcing one. ;)
:help::bang:
At the beginning of the year the D700 was £1274 at Dixons Tax-Free (yes, I have that figure etched in my memory). :'(
Yes that's probably where i seen it, i think someone on here sold one for £1300 as well, gutting isn't it, still hopefully i will get a good price for my mint D300 with just over 5000 clicks :D
Flash In The Pan
11-04-2009, 14:20
Yes that's probably where i seen it, i think someone on here sold one for £1300 as well, gutting isn't it, still hopefully i will get a good price for my mint D300 with just over 5000 clicks :D
It's worth sod all now, I'll Paypal you £400 for it :lol:
It's worth sod all now, I'll Paypal you £400 for it :lol:
Ok you have a deal not :lol: make it £900 and i will give it serious thought ;)
Flash In The Pan
11-04-2009, 14:30
Ok you have a deal not :lol: make it £900 and i will give it serious thought ;)
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
no :cuckoo:
jonnyjogpants
11-04-2009, 23:58
well i picked up a
D300
4 Gb Card
Lowpro bag
£988.00 today!!!! including VAT.
woop woop
Brand new, UK supplier, Nikon UK Warranty
oops i forgot
Currys digital in Richmond upon thames
instore offer.....
With VAT? Care to share the supplier for everyone else?
sammyd56
12-04-2009, 00:38
It must be my fault because i`m getting nailed to the bloody floor on my savings interest.........
Really?
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1496519
:)
D300
4 Gb Card
Lowpro bag
£988.00 today!!!! including VAT.
Currys digital in Richmond upon thames
Imagine how reasonable it would have been without the bag or CF cards....£600? :lol:
Glad you got a good deal....now to enjoy your new purchase. :)
Martyn...
12-04-2009, 08:45
It was a nod in the direction of hyakuhei as he's having trouble sourcing one. ;)
I know ;), I had a right game getting one 18 months ago, gave up trying to nab a used one and ended up buying new.
Really?
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1496519
:)
Only if you don't own a house or drive a car. I think the truth is somewhere in between what the media say and what that thread says.
Flash In The Pan
12-04-2009, 10:42
Really?
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1496519
:)
That explanation is a load of ballhooks, the official rate of inflation may only be 1% or whatever, but that takes house prices into account and in some areas they have fallen by up to 30%. Real, day-to-day prices have risen by nearly 30%,so unless you are first time house buyer (in which case you probably won't get a mortgage anyway :lol:), you're worse off.
jonnyjogpants
12-04-2009, 11:05
well i picked up a
D300
4 Gb Card
Lowpro bag
£988.00 today!!!! including VAT.
woop woop
Brand new, UK supplier, Nikon UK Warranty
oops i forgot
Currys digital in Richmond upon thames
instore offer.....
it was cheaper to have the bundle if i bought the camera on its own
it was a wooping £1099.00 instore..
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