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nilagin
25-11-2006, 21:25
I thought I'd share this.
I saw this on the inside of the cover of this weeks Autocar magazine.
One of my favourite race cars and favourite race tracks.
You can download it on Autocar website.
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/gallery/data/500/211166237212.jpg
Any clues on how to take a photo like that would be appreciated.

Marik
25-11-2006, 21:31
wide angle panning I assume, night night!

Ally
25-11-2006, 22:41
I like the compision of the shot, but I'm thinking how really sharp is that car?

Wide angle and steady panning, mabey even a tripod. You really need a good background to do that sort of shot.

Ross
25-11-2006, 22:44
Easy, there are some holes in the fencing up at Eau Rouge that you can poke your lens through!

That looks like a cropped vertical shot to me, you are too far away from the track for it to be a wide angle shot. Even with my 70-200 and 1.4x TC it still wasn't enough reach.

Unfortunately my webhosting seems to be down at the moment but I'll find you an example tomorrow

HIMUPNORTH
25-11-2006, 22:53
Could be a composition. One shot with sharp car, another with all the rest. Not too difficult but good idea and execution.

Ross
25-11-2006, 22:56
LOL my hosting has come back up now :shrug:

Here's an uncropped one of my mate Simon in his lovely M3 in roughly the same place. I can't find any vertical ones at the moment but I did take some

http://www.itsnotarace.com/cpg132/albums/Spa/DSC_1968.JPG

and another of my mate Craig in his old car

http://www.itsnotarace.com/cpg132/albums/Spa/DSC_1963.JPG

A lot more here: http://www.itsnotarace.com/cpg132/thumbnails.php?album=72

both of those were at 280mm

Gary
26-11-2006, 09:18
i dare to say that the autocar photo has had a little help from photoshop
everything in it is blurred exactly the same amount and same direction (apart from the aston).
if the blurring had occured from panning then the cars coming down the hill would have also have a downward component to their blurring. but everything has a kinda 'shaky' side to side blurring

feel free to argue

Gary
26-11-2006, 09:23
also, nothing below the 2nd car is blurred

russdaz
26-11-2006, 10:25
i dare to say that the autocar photo has had a little help from photoshop
everything in it is blurred exactly the same amount and same direction (apart from the aston).
if the blurring had occured from panning then the cars coming down the hill would have also have a downward component to their blurring. but everything has a kinda 'shaky' side to side blurring

feel free to argue


I agree, i think the back ground has had a blur effect over it. notice the red white curbing in the foreground has no motion blur that would happen if a slow shutter was used. (atleast my slow shutter pics do) I have achieved simulair effects with fast shutter speeds and adding blur afterwards,although i how ever i normally choose to post as where taken shots. Nice image tho.

Hoodi
26-11-2006, 11:32
Could well be a PS jobbie, but as someone who isn't really into motersport photography, I rather like that.

trebs
26-11-2006, 15:39
He's just panned it slightly. Most sport journo's use a nice high shutter speed to make sure they get paid at the end of the month, this one looks a blooper to me but getting back to the office they thought.. hmm, blimey, that was lucky.

Gary
26-11-2006, 18:15
He's just panned it slightly. Most sport journo's use a nice high shutter speed to make sure they get paid at the end of the month, this one looks a blooper to me but getting back to the office they thought.. hmm, blimey, that was lucky.

i'm going to disagree with everything you say there i'm afraid :)
although sports photographers use high shutter speeds, motorsport photographers dont, they try and use the lowest shutter speeds they can get away with, otherwise the cars look like they are standing still on the track.
But that photo hasnt had much panning, its a photoshop job plain and simple

Gary
26-11-2006, 18:31
its a very quick try, so forgive the halo and the rough edges but i've added the same kind of left to right motion blur on your photo

http://www.xynamic.co.uk/temp/cheating.jpg

Liberalis
26-11-2006, 18:39
He's just panned it slightly. this one looks a blooper to me but getting back to the office they thought.. hmm, blimey, that was lucky.

From a motorsport photographers point of view, I actually agree with the blooper bit.

trebs
26-11-2006, 22:28
i'm going to disagree with everything you say there i'm afraid :)
although sports photographers use high shutter speeds, motorsport photographers dont, they try and use the lowest shutter speeds they can get away with, otherwise the cars look like they are standing still on the track.
But that photo hasnt had much panning, its a photoshop job plain and simple

and I'm not going to argue either. I've stood on that section of track several times and whilst the passionate types are trying 1/60th shots and bagging a few, the ones relying on the sales are banging out 4000 shots a day at 1/320th. They're happy with wheel motion and sharp driver face = direct sales from the paddock or happy editor, the rest of the blur can be done in post' . As you suggest this one could be.
Either way, it's a pretty crap shot to get published :) must have been a lean day.

Marcel
26-11-2006, 23:09
Look at the headlights of the cars in positions #4 and #5.

If it was real, wouldn't the very small trail of headlight be going to the left of the car, not the right?

Venomator
27-11-2006, 08:50
Have to say ... it looks so obviously false and clearly poorly contrived ... imo ... :shrug:

And anyway ... it is flippin' awful and Autocar should sack its pic editor for letting this one go to press ... just my view ... :D




:p

Darryn
30-11-2006, 21:46
Kind of reminds me of my own favourite photo from last year.

http://www.dreederuk.com/Gallery/albums/album12/MG_5588.jpg

The opening shot looks shopped to me, but, imo thats not a problem, I bet in the eyes of over 99% of Autosport readers its genuine and they wouldnt be able to recreate the shot or effect themselves.