View Full Version : TP Meet - York - 13th January 2007
Matt Charlton
06-12-2006, 17:26
Because of the complications arising from the National Trust copyright stuff the other event has been cancelled and I've chosen the city of York as the new destination.
York has some fantastic architecture and we might even get a chance at street photography too.
Its also got the bonus of having a fairly accessible train station and park and ride so you can park on the outskirts of the city for free and catch the bus in just paying for your return ticket.
The official site is http://www.visityork.org
We could even see about doing the ghost trail ooooooh :)
Park and ride info is here http://www.york.gov.uk/parking/ride
Meeting at the Train Station for 10am.
For those travelling from further afield there is obviously no shortage of B&Bs and hotels to stay in.
Stuff to do
Sue just got this info from the tourist office:
Thank you for your enquiry regarding Illuminating York. The Illuminating York festival is taking place between 6th January - 28th January. It sees the ancient city coming alive with cutting edge lighting technology.
Recovered Light
St Williams College Green,
January 6th - 28th from dusk until midnight
The scaffolding of the east side of the Minster will be illuminated with giant projections of the stained glass panels. The intricate scenes will be detailed as if looking through an x-ray at the Great East Window. Between 6 - 7pm each night volunteers will be present to explain the art work.
Free event
York Minster
Weather Patterns
York Art Gallery
Every night dusk to midnight
A new state of the art installation outside the York Art Gallery, five giant electro luminescent panels will change according to the atmospheric pressure, temperature and air humidity.
Free event
Lux
Race around the Walls
Inside Bootham Bar
Every day 10am - 7pm
A fun interactive installation that takes you on a virtual race around the walls.
Attendees
Darksaber (Matt)
Sue
namllihs (Steve)
H.R.Ford (Renee)
Warspite (Glyn)
Jimmy Lemon (Tom)
Braeden (Lee)
Barry & Marianne
Kamion (Han)
Ribby (Jon)
Neonpollen (Andy)
Petemc (Pete)
h.r.ford
06-12-2006, 18:26
OHH count me in it is my fav city.
Warspite
06-12-2006, 18:37
Count me in, should be easier for me to make York, some good info in those links too :)
I applaude your efforts in trying to get this meet going, one way or the other :clap: (shame the NT aint so appeasing:( ).
Well done Matt :thumbs:
Glyn :)
Jimmy_Lemon
06-12-2006, 18:45
Sounds fun :) York traffic is a bit of a nightmare on a Saturday from what I remember, but should be good fun. Put me down!
Barring the wife double booking me again... I should be there.
As has been Said, York centre on a Saturday will be extremely busy (I used to live on St Saviourgate - just off the shambles) but I'm up for the challenge :D
will be after christmas, actually city might be a bit busy with january sales, the park and rides are open and travel from all sides of the city i think now, they are easy although not the cheapest but good for going in for the day dont have to worry about the time on parking tickets.
Lived not far from the city for years and never been in with a camera and looking forward to it, plenty to see and snap.
Looking forward to it.
Where do people fancy seeing, probably going to be as easy to split up for times as well into small groups if there is a lot of us and meet up at places at set times if people want to.
Rivers burst its banks again in the city, matt has just seen it on the tv he says bring wellies, but I am sure by then it may be down as long as it stops raining. But even if it rains sure we can find places to go and things to do.
Just a thought, would a sunday be more appropriate? Just thinking of too much hustle and bustle of a city centre on a Saturday. It's gonna be packed.
I should be able to make this. Shame about the National Trust though :(
Jimmy_Lemon
06-12-2006, 19:05
I would have thought a Sunday might work better for trying to get some nice shots of the city (IE less people getting in the way). But I am happy with a Saturday too - plenty of people to take shots of :)
Beautiful city, I was looking to take my girlfriend away some time in Jan (although not sure she'd be so keen on spending her weekend away wandering around with a bunch of peeps and their cameras!).
I'll certainly see how the new year pans out and perhaps take a drive up.
she could go shopping while you take pictures or she could come with us we wont all be taking photos all the time.
I was in York on Saturday and it was absolutely chocker in the centre........the Minster was the busiest I have seen it inside as well.
Might be a little better in January :shrug:
what was the probs with the trust???
Warspite
06-12-2006, 22:17
Issues regarding copyright and ownership of the actual shots should anyone decide to print/publish/even look at type problems :(
I read in a pro mag last month that you are OK as long as you don't make any profit as in selling/publishing them on, if you do they will take 50%. You are perfectly ok to use them for your own personal use, because if you have paid for entry to the place this is classed as payment for the right to take the pictures. I can find the article if you like and post it up.
richmond
06-12-2006, 23:48
Count me in, Sat or Sun makes no difference.
Traffic has always been bad on the ringroad no matter what time or day I've been there in the past.
Thanks again for all the effort thats been put in to arrangeing this meet.:clap:
Diane
h.r.ford
07-12-2006, 06:46
York really dies down after Christmas till the Spring. While there will be normal Saturday traffic it won't be anything like it is now. But as someone said it gives us all a chance to try street photography!
I'll try for this one as well if funds allow - may manage not to blow it all in France.
Have the weekend off work so will be there, might even go on the sunday as well as saturday if I dont get to see everything I want in one day :) otherwise might try to convince cousin to have party that weekend to meet new niece or nephew if they have arrived :) even better photo chances.
Marianne
18-12-2006, 01:30
we're going to try and get to this meet.... :)
I read in a pro mag last month that you are OK as long as you don't make any profit as in selling/publishing them on, if you do they will take 50%. You are perfectly ok to use them for your own personal use, because if you have paid for entry to the place this is classed as payment for the right to take the pictures. I can find the article if you like and post it up.
My understanding is that ANY photograph taken by a photographer becomes their property, regardless of venue etc.
If a venue does not want this to happen, they should not allow entry to photographers. Its not good enough to allow photographers in, and then try to 'strong arm' them later on. Although to be fair, I think the NT do openly say that they will not allow sales of pictures taken on their property.
Anybody wanting to sell pictures of a well known landmark, may need to acquire 'property release', especially if the photographs were taken on privately owned land. In any case, if you were to sell a picture for publication, 'PR' would usually be handled by the photo agency selling the pic on your behalf.
Barry, Marianne, can I car pool with you to York? :)
Marianne
21-12-2006, 10:59
of course you can but you'll have to sit in the back! :gag: will be great to meet you too!
Excellent. Thanks! :) We can split the fuel costs. I don't mind sitting in the back.
I might well be up for this too. What's the agenda?
Matt Charlton
22-12-2006, 06:46
Thats a very good question Jon.........I'd appreciate any input that you have because I have no idea what'll work best.
Whether we're going to be best splitting up into a couple of groups of 5-6 or just milling around in one big group I'm not sure.
I guess some of the old shops, the narrow streets (are they called the narrows? I can't remember), the minster, maybe take in the yorvik viking centre or the dungeons for a laugh.
Three weeks tomorrow isn't it, so we've got a bit of time to work out what we're going to do.
h.r.ford
22-12-2006, 07:00
I would love to do the viking centre as I have never managed to get in there. I think allot of our day may depend on the weather. If it is nice and sunny the morning doing street shots sounds like a plan. The park in the centre also has a great set of sculptures. Maybe if we split up to do different things we can set a time to meet up for lunch. And since there is such a big group if you would like me to look into booking us a place for lunch I would be happy to do that. Let me know!
Matt Charlton
22-12-2006, 07:20
I'll be wearing my Talk Photography fleece, come rain or snow I'll be warm and showing everyone what my favorite site is (£10 to my paypal account as promised please Matty ;) )
If we split up into smaller groups might get more different shots, I would like to see the minster and some of the streets but then guess it depends on the weather, need to look into it a bit.
Ideas of places to visit and places to have lunch would be nice.
A couple of recommendations for places to eat:
Cheap
There's a chinese place called Jumbo's on George Hudson Street that does an eat-all-you-can buffet lunch for £4.99. It's goodo!
Not as cheap
The Ask resturant in York is supposed to be lovely. I haven't been myself but my best friend has and he says the foods great and the setting is better. Assembly Rooms , Blake St.
Expensive
The Blue Bicycle is quite expansive but serves quality food and has several opportunities for pics. It's here > http://www.thebluebicycle.com/index.php?s=1
As for places to photograph, the Jorvik Museum and the Dungeons are very dark inside so you may have problems (good just to visit though). The castle museum (http://www.yorkcastlemuseum.org.uk/) might be better and you'll be able to see Cliffords Tower (http://www.cliffordstower.com/) at the same time. The best street to shoot is obviously the Shambles (http://www.yorkshambles.com/) but it gets packed with people all year round. There's a market close to there for some "market trader" pics. Then, walking from there across to Stonegate there are usually some street entertainers.
And, if anyone is interested there's the National Railway Museum. You may not be surprised to learn that there are lots of trains there :p As well as the mini York version of the London Eye > http://www.nrm.org.uk/home/home.asp
Oh, and there are regular boat trips up and down the River > http://www.yorkboat.co.uk/
Oh, oh, and if anyone is hanging around until a bit later there are several Ghost Walks which are great fun > http://www.ghosthunt.co.uk/
Hope that helps :)
Hmmmm been a while since I ate lunch in york, but Yates was nice by the river last time I went, and when I did it was reasonably priced for reasonably nice food.
The railway museum could be nice, boat trip might be nice as well.
Hmmmm need to consider how much we are likely to spend and possibly consider buying the York pass advertised on the website.
Matt Charlton
22-12-2006, 09:04
GHOST WALK :D
I wanna do one sue, sue I wanna do a ghost walk, can we sue? can we?
h.r.ford
22-12-2006, 09:04
The railway museum is free too! Great photo ops. Hmm so much to do it we might need to do two!
Matt Charlton
22-12-2006, 09:05
Yeah the Yorvik and dungeons were more for a break from taking pictures/the rain/snow. Its been ages since I went in either - think it was for my 10th birthday actually.
So thats, ooooh nearly 16 years.
Ouch.
I'm old.
Matt Charlton
22-12-2006, 09:06
Theres the air museum at Elvinton too, where Richard Hammond had that crash, thats not far from the park and ride.
There is a lot to do isn't there :o
Matt Charlton
22-12-2006, 09:07
http://www.yorkpass.com/
Worth it?
It is if you plan on going to most of those places. Otherwise I'd just pay on the door.
Guess it depends on how cold and wet it is, and how my feet are feeling if we do ghost walk, and also what time the car park shuts, or I could leave to go on your own and catch the bus home after?????
Matt Charlton
22-12-2006, 09:27
minster and dungeon are just under £18 without so I guess it depends doesnt it.
Ow my head hurts :(
Kick in sweet pain relief!
i wouldnt mind a boat ride and oe a bus ride so are they covered
Matt Charlton
22-12-2006, 09:55
Card also gives you:
York City Sightseeing & Guide Friday Tour (£2 off adult tickets)
Europcar & Cycle Hire (Special rates on car & cycle hire)
Ghost Hunt of York (£1off tickets)
Four High Petergate (10% discount on their total bill)
Jaipur Spice Indian Restaurant (15% discount excluding drinks)
Past Images (Free reprint worth up to £9.95)
Russells Restaurants (15% off the total bill)
St Williams/Minster Restaurant (15% off all food)
Theatre Royal York (£2 off tickets)
York Boat Ghost Cruises & Floodlit Evening Cruises (£2 off ghost & floodlit evening cruises)
In the copying and pasting of that I also found out that scrolling the mouse wheel up and down whilst holding down control on your keyboard zooms IE7 in and out.
Jimmy_Lemon
22-12-2006, 13:35
In the copying and pasting of that I also found out that scrolling the mouse wheel up and down whilst holding down control on your keyboard zooms IE7 in and out.
:D works in all browsers - its for people who cant read small print. Its handy. If you use it in Opera it increases picture sizes too :)
anyway...back to York.
Matt Charlton
28-12-2006, 11:50
Right then, we're a little over two weeks away from the event, if you've changed your mind or something has cropped up and you can't make it just drop me a pm, we'll be there no matter what.
Does everyone like chinese? All you can eat chinese, yummy.
Should we have two itineraries depending on weather? - bad weather we take in more of the inside stuff ala railway museum, yorvik and dungeons (for fun more than photos), minster etc and a mixture of more outdoor stuff if its sunny?
Jimmy_Lemon
28-12-2006, 12:16
Sounds good, looking forward to it.
Not a huge chinese fan (don't like soy sauce which they seem to work into everything) but they always do chips, so I am fine :D
Not a huge Train or dungeons fan either so I might skip them and try some rain photography :D but fingers crossed for fine weather :D should be a gudden!
Matt Charlton
28-12-2006, 12:20
There wont be any rain!
We'll see if anyone else likes chinese before we decide anything like that then. The beauty of a buffet is that you can generally find something that you like even if it is chips and prawn crackers ;)
Sounds good, Matt! :) I'm easy and go with anything (food or itinary).
photostar_1
28-12-2006, 13:11
Hope you all have a good time. I won't be joining you as I "did" York just a couple of months ago. Lots of good spots for pics along the wall walk and behind the minster.
(pics in my gallery)
Warspite
28-12-2006, 14:25
Not a fan of Chinese myself, but dont let that stop everyone else - my fussy eating habits are my curse and I dont think it fair that they should spoil other peoples enjoyment :D
RickMezza
28-12-2006, 14:32
I might be up for this meet (if you don't mind) :)
I'll have to see how busy work is though...its silly season ! :bang: :help:
Rich
richmond
28-12-2006, 22:15
I don't mind what we eat or when.
I also agree with us spilting up to 2 or 3 smaller groups.
When alls said and done, I'm easy. ( :nono: )
Rick, I'm sure I speak for everyone, you're welcome. Hope you can make it.
neonpollen
02-01-2007, 13:11
Put me down for this too, I may have the family in tow but they'll wander off on their own somewhere.
Matt Charlton
02-01-2007, 14:21
Send them shopping Andy ;)
neonpollen
02-01-2007, 17:27
I will, but not with my credit card :)
Warspite
02-01-2007, 17:44
They could always be used to carry your camera gear while your making artistic judgements on composition through a monocle :D
busterboy
02-01-2007, 18:33
They could always be used to carry your camera gear while your making artistic judgements on composition through a monocle :D
Now there is a man with some sense..:D
Think I'm a no no again......Got a load of fitted wardrobes coming on the 13th, then I've got to fit them, so my whole weekend will be taken up with hammer, saw and carpenters head on. Sorry!! :shrug:
I'm still a yes for this :D
I might even bring my camera if I can find it :bang:
Matt Charlton
06-01-2007, 16:27
Will pm everyone who put their names down later on, we need to decide on numbers and things for the mini groups, I'm thinking 4-5 as maximums?
whiteflyer
06-01-2007, 18:47
I doubt that I'll be there, but looking at info on York I came across this site http://www.renaissanceyork.org.uk/ about lighting York at night.
I'll think you'll all have to plan on being there late in the day too.
This is from the site to give you an idea what they do.
http://www.continuumhosting.co.uk/renaissance/images/minster(heart).jpg
Warspite
06-01-2007, 19:51
Im still interested to, hope the weathers good :D
richmond
06-01-2007, 21:27
Yep, still interested and eagerly waiting further instructions. I've persuaded hubby to come along, which means a definate visit to the Railway museum.
Ok then, this is less than a week away, who is still wanting to come, what time do people fancy meeting, what do people want to see while there as this may help us to split up into smaller groups.
I dont think I'll be making it I'm afraid. It's very likely we'll be moving this week so I simply won't have the time.
I will keep an eye on the thread though, and if anything changes I have mobile numbers etc.
h.r.ford
07-01-2007, 16:22
I"m still planning on going. I think we should have 2 meeting places set. One for crap weather and one for good weather. Hubby and son are probably coming too.
Warspite
07-01-2007, 16:45
I'll be getting there by train so somewhere in that vicinity would be fine for me, dont know York so aslong as its near a major attraction or landmark I should be able to find my way there :)
For those people thinking of the park and ride, which is possibly a cheaper option rather then parking in the centre the one that is open latest apears to be Askham bar as the last bus out of town seems to be midnight, rather than around 8pm for the rest. Dont know what time people are thinking of leaving, but thinking it might be nice to see the lights that are mentioned above if they are still on.
http://www.york.gov.uk/parking/ride/askham.html
Matt Charlton
08-01-2007, 07:52
I'm going to hold off the pm until tomorrow - that way the BBC will have a peliminary weather forecast up for Saturday and we can see where we stand in regards to the rain.
A suggestion - with the other meets that we've been on we've all had a tendancy to come back, process the pictures and hammer them up 20 at a time in our own threads, some people got 'sick' of looking at pictures of ruins for example from the Bolton Abbey trip. As a result some people didn't get the comments and critique that their work so much deserved. The same thing happened with the piccies from Twycross and Chester Zoos.
What I propose people do is if they have a photoblog, use the York trip as a source of your material for the next couple of weeks, if you don't then have a good look through your photos, process the ones that you like and pop them up a few at a time over the course of a few weeks. You're more likely to get comments and things if you limit your posts to a couple of pictures and perhaps we won't bore the rest of the forum with the pictures ;)
I think any and all people shots should be upped to the site as soon as possible but limited to a single thread - maybe a "TP York Visit - The People" thread. All the other stuff, remember its not a race and there will be 15 other people taking photos of the same thing you are so try and think "out of the box" and get some unusual shots.
You can of course ignore what I've said and just do what you like, I'm just trying to make sure you all get the best out of the trip, the pictures that you take and this place :D
Matt
Matt Charlton
09-01-2007, 06:52
Well at the moment, fingers crossed, we're on
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/images/symbols/fiveday_sym/3.gif
What do people think about what I wrote up there? ^^
Warspite
09-01-2007, 09:58
Most of the above seems fine to me, but I'll wait and see if I get any photos before I commit to any pre-conditions :D
Matt Charlton
09-01-2007, 10:00
They aren't conditions :( You can do what you like :p Just trying to stop people complaining about us when they get jealous of how good we all are at taking photos*
*Above statement may or may not be true and I won't commit to it until I see what I take in York :p
Warspite
09-01-2007, 10:07
Just trying to stop people complaining about us when they get jealous of how good we all are at taking photos*
:lol:
Umm. What time are we meeting?
Matt Charlton
09-01-2007, 10:35
Waiting to hear back from Arkady to see if he's coming or not and then I'm sending out a PM with some more information.
10am-11am?
Warspite
09-01-2007, 10:39
Somewhere between 10am - 11am would be fine for me, which reminds me - better go and check train timetables :D
Matt Charlton
09-01-2007, 10:39
Well I think we're looking at a late finish aren't we so its not all that imperative that we have an early start.
Means I can sleep in on Saturday too, going to need it after tomorrow. Got a trip down to the BETT show in London and back. Yay.
hmmm any suggestions? from anyone?
According to multimap, York's about 2 hours 37 minutes away from me.
Barry, Marianne, what time do you want to leave your place?
I'm trying to decide whether to come to this but I'm very very limited on funds. Any idea what the plans are to be? I'm also not really a Chinese kinda guy, prefer to pop by a Subway :D
Marianne
09-01-2007, 10:59
Hi Kamion...I'll ask Barry what he thinks and get back to you, d'you wanna pm me you phone number?
subway would do me but i dont really mind, looking forward to the day anyway.
what are people wanting to do this time, where do people want to go, what are people wanting pictures of
Matt Charlton
09-01-2007, 11:23
Chinese isn't on the menu per se anyway, depends what we do about splitting into little groups, I might just grab a burger from burger king or a pizza or whatever, depends what I feel like on Saturday.
Put me down for this. I can't see myself visiting York for any other reason this year so this is a great excuse to pop by. Whats the latest people are staying?
Dont know, guess we could stay till the car park shuts
Warspite
09-01-2007, 13:29
My time will be dependant on the trains back to Newcastle (and the weather - maybe).
My last train is 8:40. Just wanna check that there's something to do so I'm not lost in York for god knows how many hours till my train comes in ;)
Jimmy_Lemon
09-01-2007, 13:33
Those guidlines seem reasonable Matt - though as I said in another thread if someones thread is labeled as being from the York Meet then if someone doesnt want to look at them then they done have to. But putting them all in one thread might be a good idea.
I think I will probably be getting there earlyish as I am going to try and park in a car park in know near the middle(ish) of York, and I probably wont leave until early evening as I want to get some nice shots of things lit up etc.
I am going to have to work extra hard now to get some photos as good as Pete's :| either that or I might just follow him around :p
Just need to really try and get my nifty fifty sorted before this now! and maybe some kind of 70-200/300 - My wallet hurts already!
Would like to get some shots of things lite up at night as well.
Warspite
09-01-2007, 13:49
Might have to try and find myself a tripod between now and Saturday :thinking:
Would quite like to see the railway museum, the minster, the shambles, the market, to name but a few places.
Warspite
09-01-2007, 14:08
Definitely would like to see the trains and minster (illuminated aswell if possible) - no idea what the shambles is - pardon my ignorance.
Would basically like to see as much of the place as possible - only been there shopping and that usually means walking around in a trance not taking much in :D
http://www.yorkshambles.com/
Warspite
09-01-2007, 14:36
Thankyou :thumbs: I recognize it from my last visit, never realized it had a specific title :shrug: :D
Tickets booked. I'll be there around 9:35am, leaving about 8:40pm. Sunset at 4pm or so, should be plenty of time for some dusk / night shots.
Matt Charlton
09-01-2007, 15:20
We meeting at the train station then?
Are you going to be wearing your sunglasses and hat again pete?
I'll have my Talk Photography fleece on ;)
will be there with neonpollen
We meeting at the train station then?
Are you going to be wearing your sunglasses and hat again pete?
I'll have my Talk Photography fleece on ;)
Hat, yus. Shades are weather dependant :D
busterboy
09-01-2007, 15:54
Hat, yus. Shades are weather dependant :D
I would definitely advise wearing the shades looking at the state of your eyes in this thread (http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=15515)..:lol:
Warspite
09-01-2007, 15:56
Just look for the man with a cast on his big toe :D
I guess station might be a sensible place to meet, any other ideas or time requests, dont know what time we will be getting there
Jimmy_Lemon
09-01-2007, 16:15
I am going to aim to get there at about 10am and am going to try and park at the Nunnery Lane car park, which the little system on the website claims should have plenty of spaces at 10am on a Saturday!
http://www.york.gov.uk/parking/parkingmap.html - http://www.york.gov.uk/parking/nunnery.html
So meeting at the train station would be good for me!
Matt Charlton
09-01-2007, 16:23
So Train Station, 10am we'll say. How long are we going to wait for people to come? I'll make sure everyone has my mobile number this evening anyway.
Any preferences on group sizes and who you want to group with?
Will probably end up on the park and ride so will have to decide which one we want to use, might end up driving round york to the other side to one that is open late.
Jimmy_Lemon
09-01-2007, 16:25
How much is the park and ride?
Edit - ah dont worry I found it - £2! thats cheap!
Matt Charlton
09-01-2007, 16:25
Either that or we get your dad to drop us off.
Hmmmm most are open till 8pm (last bus out of city) however askham bar is midnight, but doesnt drop near the station but guess thats not too much of a problem.
As for getting my dad to drop us off, I dont know if he is working, and also depends on what time we are wanting out, dont want to have to bother him if it will be tea time, or late, or to stop him having a drink, guess we can see what happens, and can always ask him. Last bus home is a bit earlier I think but can check (and not cheap).
Matt Charlton
09-01-2007, 16:31
Or we can just park up in that car park that Tom is parking in for a tenner, might be worth it.
Get a couple of people to meet us at your mum and dads, they can park the car there, we drive in in a single car and then its only £2.50 each to park.
Dont mind paying ten paying ten pounds for the day, only a little more then getting the park and ride and is handy for town. Hmmmm not can I remember how to get there. I am sure I can, if not I know a man who can :)
Matt Charlton
09-01-2007, 17:03
ha the weather outlook has changed from nice and cloudy with sunny intervals to torrential rain.
Matt Charlton
09-01-2007, 17:14
Okay PMs have been sent out, if you havent got one (and want one) then let me know.
Warspite
09-01-2007, 17:20
Received & Replied :thumbs:
Jimmy_Lemon
09-01-2007, 17:23
Received & Replied :thumbs:
Ditto!
Matt Charlton
09-01-2007, 17:24
Added some more info to the first post!
Marianne
09-01-2007, 22:11
got the PM thanks...we need to sort out stuff with kamion...I already have Matt's number from the last meet. Not sure what we're doing yet but we will phone or text to let you know where we are :)
Jimmy_Lemon
10-01-2007, 19:06
Grr, looks like I left ordering my new lenses too late. Don't think either will be here by Saturday :(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/images/symbols/fiveday_sym/12.gif for York on Saturday at the moment :|
Fingers crossed the bbc get it wrong again, what lense were you wanting? someone may have on you could borrow for some of the day if they arent using it.
still looking forward to this.
Jimmy_Lemon
10-01-2007, 19:16
I have ordered a nifty fifty (which seems to have delayed my one order which included a load of filters too) and the other lens I ordered was a Sigma 70-300 which I wasnt really expecting to get here in time.
Fingers crossed for the weather :D
Matt Charlton
10-01-2007, 21:33
I'm going to nick my dads 28-105 and maybe his nifty too :D
The plan is Barry, Marianne and I are planning to be late. :D So don't wait around for us at the train station at 10am. We aim to arrive between 11am and 12pm.
Matt Charlton
10-01-2007, 21:52
Barry and Marianne are always late, I would expect you to be dragged into the mud with them ;)
Who plans on been there about 10, just so we know who we are waiting for.
namllihs
10-01-2007, 21:54
I plan to be there for 10:00 ish, dependant on traffic etc.
Matt Charlton
10-01-2007, 21:55
Have you shaved off that beard you were trying to grow Steve?
namllihs
10-01-2007, 21:58
Yes, I've got an interview for a promotion tomorrow, so off it came.
Matt Charlton
10-01-2007, 22:00
Good good, I'll recognise you then ;)
You should have kept it on. A beard makes you look more mature and people actually give you more respect. (That's how I felt when I kept a little goatie and moustache, or maybe they were just trying their best not to burst out laughing. hehe).
namllihs
10-01-2007, 22:12
You should have kept it on. A beard makes you look more mature and people actually give you more respect. (That's how I felt when I kept a little goatie and moustache, or maybe they were just trying their best not to burst out laughing. hehe).
I am 51 how more mature can I look:lol: :lol:
Matt Charlton
10-01-2007, 22:14
Well I wasn't going to say anything..... :thinking:
I am 51 how more mature can I look:lol: :lol:
:coat:
Warspite
11-01-2007, 00:53
:lol:
Have to check train times still - will sort that later today, but planning to be there during the 10am hour.
I plan to be there as close to 10am as I can. My son is coming as well now, I just hope he doesn't get too bored.
Daft question is it Sat or Sun your going?
h.r.ford
11-01-2007, 09:27
We should be there around 10 or so (I'm pretty much never late it is a "thing" with me). If the weather is attrocious I am planning on heading straight to the rail museum as it is very close to there. I've got a nifty which can be borrowed for a few shots Jimmy.
Matt Charlton
11-01-2007, 11:42
I plan to be there as close to 10am as I can. My son is coming as well now, I just hope he doesn't get too bored.
Take him to Yorvik and the Dungeons :) He'll like it there.
Matt Charlton
11-01-2007, 11:43
We should be there around 10 or so (I'm pretty much never late it is a "thing" with me). If the weather is attrocious I am planning on heading straight to the rail museum as it is very close to there. I've got a nifty which can be borrowed for a few shots Jimmy.
Rail Museum sounds like a go to me. You mean you'll go straight there before meeting up with the rest of us or meet up with the rest of us and then go to the museum?
Matt Charlton
11-01-2007, 11:44
At the moment, we've lost the rain for saturday
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/images/symbols/fiveday_sym/7.gif
h.r.ford
11-01-2007, 11:52
I'll meet up with ya'll and anyone who is interested can head to the museum. Again that is if the weather is crappy. If the weather is ok I'd like to do some street stuff first.
Matt Charlton
11-01-2007, 11:56
okaley dokaley.
I'm tired :(
Warspite
11-01-2007, 12:34
I've got flu :( but Im still planning on going, so long as I can crawl out of bed and the rail museum is a must for me if possible :D
Matt Charlton
11-01-2007, 12:37
I'm pretty sure I've got flu, had it since about Thursday of last week, the long day yesterday didn't help and my cough makes my skull hurt.
Warspite
11-01-2007, 12:57
my cough makes my skull hurt.
Thats what I have, every time I cough my brain feels like its trying to explode from my skull:shake:
Im at work now, but going home soon, and putting tomorrow in as a holiday so "hopefully" will be recovering ready for York (heres praying):D
Should arrive around 9:35 I think. Street stuff would be cool. I'm itching to get back into that side of photography, and being with friends should hopefully boost my confidence.
Jimmy_Lemon
11-01-2007, 13:46
I've got a nifty which can be borrowed for a few shots Jimmy.
:D Cheers. Jacobs sent my filters that I got for the fifty but not the lens yet! that's just torture!!!
I will be there by 10, me too would like to do street stuff and train museum sounds fun. Take it there are no issues with photographing in there?
EDIT: For some reason I cant speak propper like today :|
h.r.ford
11-01-2007, 13:55
:D Cheers. Jacobs sent my filters that I got for the fifty but not the lens yet! that's just torture!!!
I'll make a deal you bring the filters and I'll bring the lens and together we have a hell of a setup. As for photographing in there I don't see it being a problem but then the last time I went I didn't have a whole bag of camera equipment to bring with me.
Matt Charlton
11-01-2007, 16:01
I'll have everything with me, including the 100-400
I'm just a little concerned about the wind and hoping its going to die down sooner rather than later.
Everything? :o I'll just have the 10-20, 24-70 and I'm debating the 50mm. Tripod over the shoulder too. That should cover street and architecture for me.
richmond
11-01-2007, 18:07
Don't want to worry you guys but just heard on the news the river Ouse has burst it's banks. Don't think you'll be doing much outdoor photography either, forecast for the weekend is much the same as today.
Plenty of indoor attractions though and warmer too.
So endeth the forecast :)
Diane
busterboy
11-01-2007, 18:16
The river Wharfe has also burst its banks here too, The wind and rain have made conditions terrible for almost everything around here at the moment.:(
Saturday could be totally different though so good luck.;)
Well that could still be fun. Flooded York :D
Jimmy_Lemon
11-01-2007, 19:06
The River Aire seems to have been burst here for weeks, there is one particular road which always floods and have just seen a tow truck at the entrance of it, so I recon thats flooded again!
Hopefully all this will have cleared up by Saturday.
busterboy
11-01-2007, 21:31
Well that could still be fun. Flooded York :D
I can see it now.. Long exposure shots of the water flowing through the streets of York. Now that would be interesting.:D
There is plenty of york that doesnt get flooded, its generally the pubs by the river that have marks on the bar from various years and how high the water has got.
I would like to do some shots of the minster as well as the railway museum, and street shots weather permitting.
Is anyone thinking of getting a york pass thing? will we save any moey or not? so what do everyone else want to do?
Warspite
11-01-2007, 23:54
Can you buy these on the day from the train statin or tourist information and how much? , if so might be worth my while.
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 09:06
Rain and 23mph winds for tomorrow at the moment :/
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 09:06
You can buy the passes at any of the York visitor centres
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 09:15
Just emailed york pass about a group discount.
h.r.ford
12-01-2007, 10:33
Well the train museum is free and that'll take at least 2 hours and York MInster is I believe £6 and I'm not sure about photography in there. The Jorvik viking centre is £7.75 I can't imagine we would have anymore time for more than that so I'm not too sure if the pass would be worth it. What else does it get you into?
Is there anything to photograph at the Jorvik place? Sat: Rain, Sun: Mostly Sunny.
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 10:53
York Minster & Undercroft usually £7.00 Free
York Dungeon usually £10.95 Free
York Castle Museum usually £6.50 Free
Yorkshire Museum usually £5.50 Free
Guidebook with map usually £4.99 Free
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 10:56
Apparently photography is allowed in the minster if you pay a £2 photo permit.
Which is fine by me.
I'd love to shoot the minister... er ;)
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 10:59
Not a lot to photo in the yorvik but you get to go on a ride :D
The dungeons could be a laugh.
Those two things are more for things to do on a rainy day if we're stuck.
h.r.ford
12-01-2007, 11:02
The only two things I'd really be interested in going to are the Minster and the Train Museum so I think I'll be willing to fork out the £9 to shoot in the Minster (but I'll have to talk to hubby!) Other than that nothing else really tickles me fancy for photography anyway.
Ah ok. I was worried we were going on a family trip for a minute ;) I'm sure some people may want to visit museums and such but ideally I'd love to spend the day photographing. I'm hoping the rain is light if it does rain. I don't mind shooting in that and it could create a nice texture on the roads in the Shambles.
"Photography including camcorders, for personal use, is free." from http://www.yorkminster.org/visiting/what-to-see-and-do/entrance-prices/
Jimmy_Lemon
12-01-2007, 11:08
Yeah I am feeling the same as Renee, Train and Minster would be my main 2 ports of call, not much fussed about visiting castle or dungeon. If its raining I recon I could easily spend the whole day in these 2 locations. But as said earlier I guess we can split into groups of people who want to go to certain places :)
h.r.ford
12-01-2007, 11:36
I'm actually rather looking forward to taking pics in the rail museum if I remember correctly there is a HUGE warehouse with tons of trains and decent light coming in through windows. I've already got a couple of shots in my head that I'd like to do with the new fifty.
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 11:39
We're going to have to split up into groups anyway - going to be more than 15 of us there.
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 12:30
York braced for more floods
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/6254541.stm
weeeeeeee
York braced as Ouse levels peak
No stranger to floods - York is once again braced
Sandbags have been stacked across streets in York because of fears the River Ouse could rise to just one metre below the flood levels of 2000.
Flood plains around the city are under several feet of water. St George's car park, Skeldergate and part of the A19 at Fulford have been closed.
Roads in the outlying villages of Naburn and Poppelton have also been shut because of rising water levels.
The river is expected to peak today and more heavy rain is predicted.
Environment Agency flood warnings are also in place for the River Nidd at Hunsingore and Cattal.
The River Swale is in spate at Catterick Bridge, Kirby Wiske and Topcliffe Mill, while the River Ure poses a threat at Masham, Ure Bank in Ripon, Aldwark Bridge and Roecliffe Caravan Park.
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 12:30
Make sure you bring your wellies.
At least there will be something to shoot :D
h.r.ford
12-01-2007, 12:34
Ohh my goodness.
http://flickr.com/photos/itspaulkelly/354019594/
http://flickr.com/photos/itspaulkelly/354019590/
http://flickr.com/photos/watermeadow/353087979/
http://flickr.com/photos/watermeadow/353085503/
http://flickr.com/photos/loonyballoony/351859209/
Gotta get some pics of this :D
chuckles
12-01-2007, 12:51
I'm womdering with all this in the 'pipeline' (more to the point, out of it) there's a lot of point in us driving for three hours (and 3 hours back) to be cut off and bashing around with loads of other visitors and Saturday shoppers! :(
Maybe, I'm being like a 'wet weekend' ....... :(
oldboy2000
12-01-2007, 12:58
Can I wish you all a great Day out, Love to be there but just impossible for me, so I'll just look forward to see all your pics ...well the best ones !!!!:thumbs:
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 13:06
I'm womdering with all this in the 'pipeline' (more to the point, out of it) there's a lot of point in us driving for three hours (and 3 hours back) to be cut off and bashing around with loads of other visitors and Saturday shoppers! :(
Maybe, I'm being like a 'wet weekend' ....... :(
Its definately something to take into consideration Barry.
It might not be worth the trip :/
The floods are looking a bit like they might spoil the party.
Me and Sue are at her mum and dads which is 10 mins from York anyway, so we'll be there.
h.r.ford
12-01-2007, 13:07
Well I'm going if for no other thing than the rail museum unless it is flooded too of course!
Jimmy_Lemon
12-01-2007, 13:20
I don't think you will be cut off Barry. Its only the bits that are suppose to flood that are flooded at the moment. It hasnt rained for a while now up here in Skipton (which aint that close, but seems to have fairly similar weather) and the water does go down as fast as it comes up. I don't think you will have any problems getting into York.....as for the shoppers, hopefully a lot of them will be put off by the weather and there won't be that many to bump into (It also seems to be a quiet time of the year for tourists)
I've already got my tickets booked and afaik I can't cancel. Anyways, I imagine the Minister, Shambles, and the Train Museum should be accessible. It should still be a great chance to document the floods.
Jimmy_Lemon
12-01-2007, 13:22
Ok - just looked at them pics Pete posted....maybe its not just the areas that were suppose to flood :o
WetSparks
12-01-2007, 13:51
Well, Ive been keeping me head down on this thread, hoping I would be able to make it to the meet, especially as its only just over an hour down the road. However, having picked up a bit of pneumonia last weekend and the fact that me ticker isn't quite right yet, I think I'll have to give it a miss :(
Do have a fun day out pep's and I hope the weather and floods are kind to you all. Look forward to seeing the posted results :)
chuckles
12-01-2007, 13:56
Ok - just looked at them pics Pete posted....maybe its not just the areas that were suppose to flood :o
I didn't think towns/city centres were designed to be flooded. :lol: We may be going just have to see how things pan out! :thinking:
Going out to see the floods in St. Ives (Cambs, not the one with the beach!) :suspect:
Just posting from my dads house, theres just been a 5 minute report from York on look north about the floods and its looking bloody wet.
Don't know if its going to affect us or not, depends how close to the river we get I guess.
Matt
Close enough to get good shots :D
Jimmy_Lemon
12-01-2007, 19:51
Made a little map that shows the main places we seem to be talking about, and where it seems to flood (going by some flood map I found, though it does just follow the river!)
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2343/yorklr0.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/watermeadow/355079604/
http://flickr.com/photos/watermeadow/355079604/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/northyorkshire/content/image_galleries/january_2007_gallery.shtml
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 21:56
Okay, arrived at Sue's parents just outside of York, her dad has said that there are parts of York that are cut off and the railway museum has been cut off in the past - no idea if it is or not at the moment or will be tomorrow but the roads themselves to the place can and have flooded before.
Just a warning :/
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 21:58
Looking at Jimmy's map we might be able to get to the railway museum and thats about it from the train station.
There are photos from a bridge so I'm guessing the water isn't *that* high. Anyone got a chopper? ;)
Jimmy_Lemon
12-01-2007, 22:06
LoL, this is going to be fun :D
One point - we are meeting at the train station at 10am yes? but the station is pretty big. I was thinking outside the front doors, but where about in the station was everyone else thinking? :p I know a group of us shouldnt be hard to spot, but it might be hard to get a group size group if we cant find each other.
Everyone, cameras out! "Are you from the internet?"
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 22:19
Erm I dunno, the train station, if you can't see anyone, ring me.
Jimmy_Lemon
12-01-2007, 22:42
lol fair enough :)
RickMezza
12-01-2007, 22:51
I would imagine you'll still be able to cross the bridges, so you can get from the train station to central York. I think it has to be exceptionally high to close the bridges (never seen them close the bridges myself).
If you're going by car...park on high ground (I'm not joking, I've seen cars cut off in the carpark located where the Foss and Ouse rivers meet !)
Whacky thought. The trains don't get flooded do they? I'm not going to be stuck in York train station for the next week?
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 23:00
Its always possible the water could rise to the track and they'd have to close the track yeah.
neonpollen
12-01-2007, 23:30
Me, nuffink & brassneck won't be getting there until 11.30 ish so don't hang around for us, we'll catch up with you later on.
Hmmmm should be ok getting from railway museum into the minster, depends which way you go thats all, at the end of the day we can always take pictures of something, lets hope it stays mainly dry for us thats about all I am bothered about, will find away around york and something to take pics of, should be good.
Warspite
12-01-2007, 23:38
Not sure if I can make this now, developed flu on Wednesday and its just gone from bad to worse, absolutely loaded with it :(, see how it is tomorrow but spent all today in bed aching and coughing. Seriously gutted about possibly missing this :'(
I've got Matts mobile number so if I can get there I'll call to find out where abouts you all are.
If I dont see you, enjoy it and stay well clear of anyone with a cough.:thumbs:
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 23:43
I have a cough. :thinking:
Don't worry about it too much mate, just drop me a txt in the morning if you decide either way in the morning.
hmmm... Matt, if you see the place underwater in the morning, please give me or Barry or Marianne a ring so we can do a u-turn. :)
Matt Charlton
12-01-2007, 23:54
What am I classing as underwater? Parts of it are underwater, whether they affect us or not I'm not sure. As long as there isn't a load more rain overnight we should be okay.
BBC weather is forecasting clouds and rain after 1900 tomorrow and 9 to 11 degrees C. Hopefully, no rain tonight!
Keltic Ice Man
13-01-2007, 00:10
Good luck for later today guys.
I'm interested to know if you need pay to take photos in the minister.
:)
Allan
You don't according to their site.
Looks like Nunnery Lane car park is a good parking spot (especially if it's multistory) considering that it is a little way back from the river. :)
I'm parking on the 6th floor of a car park.... in Liverpool. Should be ok there me thinks ;)
Nunnery lane car park is not multistorey, but if that floods we are in trouble trust me :)
Please to say no real rain here overnight, which has to be good news, weather here is dry and reasonably mild at the moment and wind not too bad, (this is ten mile just outside the york walls :) ) The river was felt to have peaked yesterday and so hopefully will be no worse than photos yesterday. Even if it has risen there is plenty of things to do and see for photos of flooded rivers, to street photography the minster the railway museum, museum gardens, to name but a few, not forgetting the numerous bars and walls (not drinking bars I mean).
Hope to see some of you soon.
h.r.ford
13-01-2007, 08:55
Well we are heading out now. See ya all soon.
Hope you all have a great day :thumbs:
I'm off to B&Q in a mo for some supplies then its back to the wallpaper stripper :D
Keltic Ice Man
13-01-2007, 11:09
So your spending the day stripping are you Bod.
:gag: Yuck - "remove that thought"
oldboy2000
13-01-2007, 11:11
Glad you said "Wallpaper" Stripper, Marcel !!:) :)
Matt Charlton
13-01-2007, 17:29
well we're sat in starbucks at the moment, just had a large latte yummy. got some fairly decent pictures I hope, talk to you all later
h.r.ford
13-01-2007, 19:01
Well Pizza Hut made me ill so I've spent since 4 o'clock being in much pain.
Matt Charlton
13-01-2007, 19:07
Oh dear :( thats not good at all Renee.
We just got back to Sue's mum and dads, Kamion, Barry and Marianne are en route back to the south, we left Pete and Tom (JL) taking photos of the minster in the dark.
My feet are killing me but I really enjoyed the day out, thanks everyone for coming :)
neonpollen
13-01-2007, 19:12
Well me, Kev & Lance made it but I rather stupidly left my mobile at home so I couldn't call anyone to let you know we were there, we kept an eye out for you all but didn't see you anywhere.
Warspite
13-01-2007, 19:23
Very pleased you enjoyed yourselves, sounds like an amazing day.
Really missed not being able to go to this, especially at such short notice.
Look forward to your pics when you all get the time :thumbs:
Matt Charlton
13-01-2007, 19:28
Were we supposed to take some pictures?
Damn, knew there was something I forgot to do ;)
Warspite
13-01-2007, 19:30
Dont tell me Andy forgot his phone and you forgot your camera ;)
Hope you enjoyed StarBucks atleast :lol:
:D
So any problems with photography are was it permitted at all locations?
Matt Charlton
13-01-2007, 19:31
Hmmmmmmmmmmm Starbucks was yummy, love their giant mugs of coffee. warmed me up inside, although it has to be said it was extremely mild to say it was the middle of jan.
Matt Charlton
13-01-2007, 20:01
Photography was fine everywhere, the £7 entry fee for the minster is valid for 12 months if you fill in a little coupon for tax gift aid.
I even got a picture of pete minus hat - they made him take it off!
h.r.ford
13-01-2007, 20:12
Glad you guys had fun after we left. Can't wait to see the pics of York. I got some of the flooding but just quick snaps.
richmond
13-01-2007, 20:21
Real pleased you had a good time and looking forward to seeing the pics. Here is the closest I came to York today -
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/daidoh/FerrandsOak.jpg
Pic taken on the St. Ives estate, Bingley
Jimmy_Lemon
13-01-2007, 20:26
Well Pizza Hut made me ill so I've spent since 4 o'clock being in much pain.
:eek: Poor Renee! That doesnt rank high on my list of good Pizza Huts, our waitress was helpfull, but it was very slow for a small place!
Hope you feel better soon!
P.S Got home and my bloody 70-300 Sigma had arrived about an hour after I set out this morning!! GRRRRRRR
Matt Charlton
13-01-2007, 20:27
I thought our service was quite quick, it was certainly the best in terms of free refills on the pepsi max when they brought us a jug over :D
Bugger about your lens arriving this morning :/
Jimmy_Lemon
13-01-2007, 20:39
I thought our service was quite quick, it was certainly the best in terms of free refills on the pepsi max when they brought us a jug over :D
Bugger about your lens arriving this morning :/
Actually yeah I guess ours was reasonable quick. Still took an hour and a half in that place though :p (though I think that might be down to two ice cream factory man!)
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1773/iscreempz6.jpg
Keltic Ice Man
13-01-2007, 20:40
Glad you guys had a good day. - also glad the minster was sensible - not charging for the cameras - I have known them be a bit silly (but its a long story)
Matt Charlton
13-01-2007, 20:43
No the minster was very accomodating - they said we could take photos anywhere except downstairs, tripods are allowed anywhere and it was all good.
Barry had two trips to the ice cream factory too!
Well, I just got home. Barry and Marianne got home safe too. It was rather wet on the way down. Hope JL and Pete didn't get soaked!
Thanks to Matt and Sue for organising it!
I'm really knackered, but it was really nice meeting everyone!
Jimmy_Lemon
13-01-2007, 21:44
We did get a bit wet on the walk back to the station/car park from the minster, but it wasnt too bad! As it was the only real rain of the day it wasnt too bad.
h.r.ford
13-01-2007, 21:58
Glad everyone made it home safe and sound. I just finished prossesing my first batch. Not too bad although quite a bit of noise on some.
Aaaaand I've just got in. They wouldn't let me take an early train unless I paid £23. Thankfully I had my PSP with plenty to watch on it. Very cold though, and the train was too. It is also true that one of God's peons asked me to remove thy hat or thy would have been smitten on the spot. I tried to explain that I had hat hair but they didn't accept it. God 1, Pete 0.
Anywho, top day guys. Nice to meet you all.
Jimmy_Lemon
13-01-2007, 23:54
Glad you got back ok Pete. £23 just to catch an earlier train, that's just stupid....and I wondered to myself on the way home why I didn't use the train! :(
Warspite
13-01-2007, 23:55
Some people just dont have any respect do they :D
I know! They should respect the monkey hat!
Warspite
14-01-2007, 00:19
So how much longer did you have to wait before they would let you on a train? Sounds scandalous to charge that much.
2hrs till the one I had a reservation on arrived.
Warspite
14-01-2007, 01:41
Ouch, was expecting maybe 30mins - or an hour at most :(
Anyone got a pic of Pete sans hat?
Matt Charlton
14-01-2007, 09:49
I have indeed.
I'll put it up later.
Make sure he's OK with it first....If not lemme know and I'll ply him with sugar cubes until he agrees.
Make sure he's OK with it first....If not lemme know and I'll ply him with sugar cubes until he agrees.
Fair enough. :)
neonpollen
14-01-2007, 10:34
Sorry we missed you guys but our of interest who turned up yesterday ? and where did you go. We sort of wandered round Clifford's Tower, The Minster and then the shopping areas.
Matt Charlton
14-01-2007, 10:43
We had:
Darksaber (Matt)
Sue
H.R.Ford (Renee) & Husband & Keegan
Warspite (Glyn)
Jimmy Lemon (Tom)
Braeden (Lee)
Barry a
Marianne
Kamion (Han)
Petemc (Pete)
We met at the train station, went to the railway museum and stayed there for a few hours, renee went off to explore around a little more with her family and get keegan some food. We decided the rumblings in our tummy's needed sorting too and we ventured out to pizza hut, han and pete went to find something else as Pete isn't a pizza fan but after that we went to the Minster, spent a couple of hours there, minus Barry and Marianne who went off for a bit of an exploration.
We met up again a little later and found a starbucks, had a natter and a coffee then set back off home, tom and pete went back to the minster to photograph it with the special lights on, Sue tried to follow but found that she couldnt get around the back of the Minster as the gates were all locked so she came back.
Marianne
14-01-2007, 11:09
here's a couple of the happy snappers.....
the first one is Petemc, Kamion (Han) and Chuckles (Barry)
http://www.barrianne-photos.co.uk/picperfic/_DSC4218.jpg
the second one is Kamion, Jimmy Lemmon, Petemc, Chuckles, Sue and Darksaber
http://www.barrianne-photos.co.uk/picperfic/_DSC4228.jpg
Make sure he's OK with it first....If not lemme know and I'll ply him with sugar cubes until he agrees.
Haha. I had very bad hat hair! ;) I would like to preview the image just to make sure he captured my usual charm on film ;)
Marianne
14-01-2007, 11:29
You look great with your hat on Pete...it really was a special day out!
Hehe thanks :D It was a top day. Although some of York is a shambles ;)
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