View Full Version : Canon EOS-1D Mark III, 10 mp, 10 fps
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/images/canon_eos1dmkiii.gifPre-PMA 2007: Canon has today announced the latest generation of their EOS-1D series. The Mark III has a ten megapixel APS-H (1.3x FOV crop) CMOS sensor and can shoot at ten frames per second. It features the updated DIGIC III image processor, a new 19 area Auto Focus system and a 3.0" LCD monitor. As has become 'the norm' with Canon we had no information on this product before announcement, so no preview or analysis. I'm sure many were expecting an EOS 30D update, well not yet.
More... (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07022208canoneos1dmarkiii.asp)
Front and back piccies
http://www.robgalbraith.com/public_files/Canon_EOS-1D_Mark_III_White_Paper.pdf
Want one ! Want one NOW ! lol
very impressive! only 2 piccies on the press release, that was a bit disappointing really
The_old_man
22-02-2007, 08:22
Was planning to buy a 1D mkII in June. Looks like thats changed then!!
shiato storm
22-02-2007, 08:31
beast just got updated! surely 10fps and 63af points is a tad over-kill?
I want the 'order pizza' button
There were rumours that it was going to be annouced this morning :)
wooohoo - it looks good http://ocukmods.co.uk/images/icons/icon14.gif
ISO 6400 !!!!
I will be getting one of these this year
63af points is a tad over-kill?
As I understand the specs
19 cross-type sensors
An additional 26 AF points
The camera’s new 63-zone metering system gives photographers greater level of control over exposure
malla1962
22-02-2007, 09:13
Here is a link,im not interested in a new cam but I do like the new 580EXmk2
with weather sealing and a PC socket.
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=139&modelid=14999
:( There's nothing for me personally to bother changing from the 1D II there really.
For me it needed to combine the best bits of the 1D series rugedness, frame rate and AF prowess with the 5D's way superor image quality and FF sensor.
Oh well, nevermind.
Here is a link,im not interested in a new cam but I do like the new 580EXmk2
with weather sealing and a PC socket.
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=139&modelid=14999
just got the release for that too..nice..
more images
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/gallery/data/634/EOS-1D_Mark_III_beauty_01_Medium_.jpg
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/gallery/data/634/EOS-1D_Mark_III_product_02_Medium_.jpg
h.r.ford
22-02-2007, 09:17
Is that the Stig in the DPreview.... How many thousands is this going to set us back???
sample images from the beast
http://www.canon.co.jp/Imaging/eos1dm3/eos1dm3_sample-e.html
Anybody in the market for a 1D would obviously do well to wait for this one, but there's nothing there to tempt me to want to swap my current version. The pixel increase isn't a really significant difference (unless the the Dogic 111 processor makes a substantial difference) and I don't use the 8.5 fps I already have.
Beautifully spec'd camera though. :)
Woohoo... ill be grabbing one of these asap. :)
Woohoo... ill be grabbing one of these asap. :)
Have you got an auto reply set up :D ;)
antonroland
22-02-2007, 11:33
Now how do I justify wanting this beast when I do mostly weddings
:bang: :bang: :bang:
:lol:
Blackvault
22-02-2007, 11:52
still no announcement on the 1Ds MKIII.
As regarding this one.. WOW nicely spec'd. I'm possibly looking at buying a 1D series camera buy the end of the year. So many choices now:bang:
Blackvault
Now how do I justify wanting this beast when I do mostly weddings
Some justification for you :D
It has a silent shutter mode (70db compared to standard 77db). Great for in church service shots.
An sRAW mode which outputs 2mp RAW files - great for candid shots with smaller files.
:)
Woohoo... ill be grabbing one of these asap. :)
how stupid, im pretty sure you've got a 1dmk2N right?
Matt Charlton
22-02-2007, 12:30
Engadget also have a press release with more piccies:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/21/canons-eos-1d-mark-iii-dslr-with-live-lcd/
It has a silent shutter mode (70db compared to standard 77db). Great for in church service shot
:)
Is this different to the current model though? You can select silent shutter mode with my n but it has to be done connected to the PC as it's a Personal preference setting as opposed to a Custom one.
It's very good actually , most of the noise is not caused by the shutter firing, it's caused by the shutter rewind or reset mechanism. In practice with it enabled you take the shot, which is pretty quiet, but the camera doesn't wind on until you remove your finger from the shutter button.The rewind is slower but much, much quieter. It does slow continuous shooting down though, and you can't use it in motor drive mode at all.
chouglez
22-02-2007, 12:46
Also watch out for 40D soon..........
for what reason dreeder? Just becuase it's new? same with the lens.
Is this different to the current model though? You can select silent shutter mode with my n but it has to be done connected to the PC as it's a Personal preference setting as opposed to a Custom one.
Quoted for reference
Source : Canon 1DMKIII White Paper - Page 34
A new and useful silent single shooting mode has been added to the regular complement
of single shooting, high-speed continuous (10 fps), low-speed continuous (3 fps), 10-sec.
self-timer and 2-sec. self-timer. During normal shooting, a magnet is used to release the
tension and the reflex mirror's downward motion is spring-driven. In the silent single
shooting mode, Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) control is employed to lower the effective
voltage. The motor's rpm is lowered and the reflex mirror is slowly put back down. PWM
control is also applied to the shutter-cocking motor to make it silent. The operation noise
of the mirror going back down is approx. 77 dB for normal single shooting. In the silent
single shooting mode, it is much quieter at approx. 70 dB. After shooting in the silent
single shooting mode and SW2-OFF occurs, the shutter will be cocked. You can thereby
control the timing of the operation noise.
A top continuous shooting speed of 10 fps is attained in both the One-Shot AF and AI Servo
AF modes even though the EOS-1D Mark III has about 1.23 times more pixels than the
EOS-1D Mark II N. This was made possible by the new drive mechanism (a new bound/
bounce prevention mechanism for the reflex mirror's downward motion, a dedicated
motor for mirror cocking, and a dedicated motor for shutter cocking), a CMOS sensor
enabling 8-channel high-speed signal reading, a newly-developed shutter unit, and
Dual DIGIC III Image Processors for high-speed image processing.
Jonnyreb
22-02-2007, 13:09
for what reason dreeder? Just becuase it's new? same with the lens.
Not sure i need any more of an excuse than that :) Of course, the funds would be nice too :lol:
Quoted for reference
Source : Canon 1DMKIII White Paper - Page 34
Fair does, that sounds like a significant improvement. :thumbs:
antonroland
22-02-2007, 14:14
Some justification for you :D
It has a silent shutter mode (70db compared to standard 77db). Great for in church service shots.
An sRAW mode which outputs 2mp RAW files - great for candid shots with smaller files.
:)
Don't know if this will float with the government but no harm in trying right?
Thanx
:D :D :D
antonroland
22-02-2007, 14:16
BTW
This now makes it believable that Canon will hold back with the 5D upgrades...:shrug:
Pity cause the 5D is much more justifiable for our needs, 20D works fine for the amount of fast moving stuff we do.
:bonk: :bonk: :bonk:
This now makes it believable that Canon will hold back with the 5D upgrades...:shrug:
A 5D upgrade was never on the cards
antonroland
22-02-2007, 15:03
Not quite true
Rumour had it they (Canon) were going to take the 5D in two distinct lines...
a budget version and an upmarlet version.
Can't remember the link to previous threads on this and don't know how to post link here anyway :bonk: but the guys who speculated on this 5D revamp also said that it would be held back for August as the 1D range would be upgraded first.
antonroland
22-02-2007, 15:14
Yeah Digic 3 is fitted in a few point & shoot cameras but they have all had Pixel increases.
Digic 3 is a data processor, unless Canon increase pixel count and shooting speed on the 5D replacement then it's pointless having Digic 3.
Once the new 1Ds and 1D MKIII's are out this Feb/March it paves the way for a 5D upgrade in August/September
You were fairly close with where the 1D MkIII was going though!:thumbs:
Look back at cameras lenses & accessories>page 3 thread titled 6D???? if you will.
Cheers
dougdarter
22-02-2007, 15:19
It's an impressive spec, no doubt, but it really doesn't do anything that my current 1D MkIIn doesn't, though perhaps it's a bit faster.
I'm quite happy with my present set up, and I will be for the forseeable future. If I'm honest, the camera outperforms me anyway, as it probably does 90% of it's users - the spec is already awesome.
It seems to me, that the manufacturers are chasing customers the only way they can - like the computer/mobile phone/car manufacturers do - by introducing features that look good on paper, but in the real world, are pretty much meaningless, but which will be purchased by the 'I've gotthaveoneofthose' gang, Minesbiggerandbetterthanyours, people with more money than sense, or just plain show offs.
Pixel chasing is not my thing, nor is owning the latest and greatest, I'll wait for the next quantum leap, like the full frame sensor of recent years. Until then, I'm more than happy with the quality of captures with which my camera provides me.
Canon feel the need to introduce a new camera, OK, but what is their motive?? I really wonder.
Look back at cameras lenses & accessories>page 3 thread titled 6D???? if you will.
Ahh yes - I remember that :)
Jonnyreb
22-02-2007, 15:40
Canon feel the need to introduce a new camera, OK, but what is their motive?? I really wonder.
Oh, I'm sure you wouldn't begrudge a comopany making money Doug, after all that's their reason d'etre. Sure, Canon are there to make money, but that revenue drives the R&D that results in great lenses, clever gadgets, great cameras and happy customers.
And to be sure - if the upgrade to the 1Ds MkII is half what the upgrade to the 1D MkII n is, I'll be examing my finances to see if its feasible - for a combination of your quoted reasons :D
dougdarter
22-02-2007, 16:04
Oh, I'm sure you wouldn't begrudge a comopany making money Doug, after all that's their reason d'etre. Sure, Canon are there to make money, but that revenue drives the R&D that results in great lenses, clever gadgets, great cameras and happy customers.
And to be sure - if the upgrade to the 1Ds MkII is half what the upgrade to the 1D MkII n is, I'll be examing my finances to see if its feasible - for a combination of your quoted reasons :D
Hi Johnny,
Of course I don't begrudge them, and essentially, it's profit that drives R&D as you suggest.
If a buyer has a need for the upgraded spec, and can make good use of it, then fine, he is likely to be a professional, and can afford it.
Also, persons like yourself who have an older model, and NEED to upgrade, would also consider it, and rightly so.
I'd like to bet however, that most will be sold to shutterbugs, who will probably use it stuck on programme most of the time, and will never even get near it's full potential.
i think the point hes making is, there is NO need to upgrade from 8.5fps and 8.2mp, to 10fps and 10mp, because the increase is absolutely nothing
Jonnyreb
22-02-2007, 16:29
Which is why i carefully quoted - relax, devils advocate is finished for the day :p
its all good, it just angers me when some only want something because its new, and so they can be one of the first to say they have one.
antonroland
22-02-2007, 16:50
The upside to this is that 1D Mk II n should become more affordable now!?
:woot: :thumbs: :D
So nobody thinks that the "Live View" is worth mentioning then?
i think the point hes making is, there is NO need to upgrade from 8.5fps and 8.2mp, to 10fps and 10mp, because the increase is absolutely nothing
I'll be getting one ASAP but i'm coming from 20D's :)
Even if you already have a 1DMKIIn there are still some key features that are worth upgrading for - ISO 6400, improved AF, bigger viewfinder, larger LCD etc etc
antonroland
22-02-2007, 17:55
IMHO ...NO
:D
This to me is a gimmick and also it was always a great source of amusement at the expense of the Quasi informed Ignorami of the world when people ask how it is that I still work with film.
Or they pick up my camera, try to take a picture as you would with a point and shoot and then look rather puzzled when they cannot see on the screen beforehand.
Thus endeth the sermon!
:coat:
:D
antonroland
22-02-2007, 17:58
I'll be getting one ASAP but i'm coming from 20D's :)
Even if you already have a 1DMKIIn there are still some key features that are worth upgrading for - ISO 6400, improved AF, bigger viewfinder, larger LCD etc etc
Isn't this a bit of a 20D vs 30D debate?
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
:D
Jonnyreb
22-02-2007, 18:10
So nobody thinks that the "Live View" is worth mentioning then?
Nope - cant think of a single practical benefit. To make framing easier at awkward angles???? puurlease!!
Jonnyreb
22-02-2007, 18:11
dammit - what a waste of the 1,000 post :annoyed:
dougdarter
22-02-2007, 18:12
Nope - cant think of a single practical benefit. To make framing easier at awkward angles???? puurlease!!
Congratulations on your 1000 Johnny!
dougdarter
22-02-2007, 18:13
ISO 6400 - Now that's realy useful:shrug:
Jonnyreb
22-02-2007, 18:14
Congratulations on your 1000 Johnny!
Thanks Doug - like my 21st and 30th b.days it passed without me knowing about it. If i'm true to form i'll wake up in a ditch tomorrow :D
ISO 6400 - Now that's realy useful:shrug:
LOL Well it is if it's usable - I'd sacrifice a gonad for low noise ISO 6400 images. :D
Jonnyreb
22-02-2007, 18:19
LOL Well it is if it's usable - I'd sacrifice a gonad for low noise ISO 6400 images. :D
Good Grief CT - there's commitment and lunacy! We need to find you some more birds - quickly!
pswillies
22-02-2007, 18:23
ISO 6400 - Now that's realy useful:shrug:
But that is likely to mean that 3200 is much improved.
:)
Good Grief CT - there's commitment and lunacy! We need to find you some more birds - quickly!
It comes down to what's important - and you can manage with one anyway - they reckon. :suspect:
:D
Jonnyreb
22-02-2007, 18:49
It comes down to what's important - and you can manage with one anyway - they reckon. :suspect:
:D
Lol - fair play. Careful of the Adolf syndrome then if it comes to that ;)
whitewash
22-02-2007, 18:52
IMHO ...NO
:D
This to me is a gimmick and also it was always a great source of amusement at the expense of the Quasi informed Ignorami of the world when people ask how it is that I still work with film.
Or they pick up my camera, try to take a picture as you would with a point and shoot and then look rather puzzled when they cannot see on the screen beforehand.
Thus endeth the sermon!
:coat:
:D
thanks for saving me the hastle of typing something similar :)
I'll be getting one ASAP but i'm coming from 20D's :)
That'll be a hell of a jump. I'll start a book on how quickly you switch off the High speed drive ;)
antonroland
22-02-2007, 19:19
thanks for saving me the hastle of typing something similar :)
Cheers m8
:lol:
If i had a 1D 2N i wouldnt bother rushing to upgrade to the Mk3 but as i have a 20D i can see a LOT of things worth upgrading to a MK3 for specially as a 2n was on the cards anyway :)
busterboy
22-02-2007, 19:50
its all good, it just angers me when some only want something because its new, and so they can be one of the first to say they have one.
Don't let it bother you, Its the same in the car industry, People have very nice cars in their drive but still yearn for the newer model as soon as its released, Computers are the the same, people have 100% good working computers but still spend hundreds upgrading... Thats life get used to it..;)
Back on topic...
Already having the 1DMkII I can't see me upgrading although there are several improvements on the latest model, I will wait and see what the latest flagship model the 1DsMkIII (maybe thats what it will be called) offers..:)
The UK RRP is £3,049 :thumbsdown:
Now way am I paying that when it's $4k in the US, so i'll pick one up in November when I'm there :)
The UK RRP is £3,049 :thumbsdown:
Now way am I paying that when it's $4k in the US, so i'll pick one up in November when I'm there :)
What was RRP of the 2n when it first came out ? will only stay there when demand outstrips supply, once it calms down price will sort itself out :)
What was RRP of the 2n when it first came out ? will only stay there when demand outstrips supply, once it calms down price will sort itself out :)
The MKIIn was also around £3k at launch.
The price will drop after a few months but the same will also happen in the US so the price gap remains.
Nope - cant think of a single practical benefit. To make framing easier at awkward angles???? puurlease!!
So you don't think that professional photographers (who are frequently standing in the middle of a crowd of photographers/journos) might find it handy when they hold their cameras up in the air to get photos, for example?
And before you ask why that matters to you, it doesn't. The 1-series is aimed at working pros.
My main reason for being impressed with the feature, though, was simply that I read a very well-written, convincing article about how difficult it would be for camera makers to put a "live LCD" (like you get on point'n'shoot digicams) into a DSLR. The article said there were only two ways to do it and both had massive sacrifices. Basically, you either had to black out the viewfinder or sacrifice half the light in order to split the incoming beams between prism and sensor.
So Canon have obviously found a way to do it. I thought that'd be fairly big news and I'm surprised it's not.
Jonnyreb
22-02-2007, 21:51
So you don't think that professional photographers (who are frequently standing in the middle of a crowd of photographers/journos) might find it handy when they hold their cameras up in the air to get photos, for example?
And before you ask why that matters to you, it doesn't. The 1-series is aimed at working pros.
My main reason for being impressed with the feature, though, was simply that I read a very well-written, convincing article about how difficult it would be for camera makers to put a "live LCD" (like you get on point'n'shoot digicams) into a DSLR. The article said there were only two ways to do it and both had massive sacrifices. Basically, you either had to black out the viewfinder or sacrifice half the light in order to split the incoming beams between prism and sensor.
So Canon have obviously found a way to do it. I thought that'd be fairly big news and I'm surprised it's not.
Fair enough - its a technical breakthough (after Olypus of course, lets not forget they manahed this first). But come on, if you stick your camera in the air you're not bothered about framing and i would be VERY surprised if much of the screen was visible or usable in the those conditions. I feel its gimmicky, not useful in a practical sense. Sure, there may be some DSLR snobbery thrown into the mix from me. I'm not ashamed of that. To take your comment (and my interpretation of it) to the extreme, the outcome would be to do away with the viewfinder all together. This is a niche the bridge / compact / mobile phone camera is aimed at.......
Johnny1982
22-02-2007, 22:00
So you don't think that professional photographers (who are frequently standing in the middle of a crowd of photographers/journos) might find it handy when they hold their cameras up in the air to get photos, for example?
And before you ask why that matters to you, it doesn't. The 1-series is aimed at working pros.
My main reason for being impressed with the feature, though, was simply that I read a very well-written, convincing article about how difficult it would be for camera makers to put a "live LCD" (like you get on point'n'shoot digicams) into a DSLR. The article said there were only two ways to do it and both had massive sacrifices. Basically, you either had to black out the viewfinder or sacrifice half the light in order to split the incoming beams between prism and sensor.
So Canon have obviously found a way to do it. I thought that'd be fairly big news and I'm surprised it's not.
sure is an impressive feature and I will use it alot when doing macro work where I can creatively use my hands to both hold the subject steady and use my collapsible reflector to direct my light or flash onto the subject where I can be stood at a comfortable stance and not have my face pressed up against the camera. People are looking too negatively at the live LCD feature and I think if people just thought what they could do with it then they would retract their disapproval.
The feature is actually a manual focus only feature since the mirror is locked up and therefore covers the focusing system.
Nope - cant think of a single practical benefit. To make framing easier at awkward angles???? puurlease!!
Yeah I know what you mean but even if it only comes in handy a couple of times it's worth having :)
Check out this video, it's not in english but it shows the Live LCD preview in action (towards the end).
Watching a DSLR with a live update seems so weird.
http://www.focus-numerique.com/news_id-38.html
Now if they fitted a swivelling live screen that would be really something and potentially far more useful.
If they really wanted to impress me with something clever, a live histogram superimposed onto the viewfinder image would be ace.
The live view would be useful fairly often to me but not if I have to drill through 15 menu and selection screens to get to it.
Johnny1982
22-02-2007, 22:17
Yeah I know what you mean but even if it only comes in handy a couple of times it's worth having :)
Check out this video, it's not in english but it shows the Live LCD preview in action (towards the end).
Watching a DSLR with a live update seems so weird.
http://www.focus-numerique.com/news_id-38.html
Show me more videos!
I dont care what lang they are in!! most Porn is forgein but we watch it anyway!!
Johnny1982
22-02-2007, 22:18
If they really wanted to impress me with something clever, a live histogram superimposed onto the viewfinder image would be ace.
The live view would be useful fairly often to me but not if I have to drill through 15 menu and selection screens to get to it.
Then your in luck, all you do is initially enable it in the Custom functions and then all you press is "Set" to engage/disengage it.
Can you zoom in while the LCD is live and see a 100% (ie one screen pixel equals one sensor pixel) view of what you're about to shoot?
If so, that would make manual focusing tight and easy, similar to using a large format camera and getting underneath one of those red/black sheets with a little magnifying glass, but for the digital age.
Having just seen the £/$ RRPs im deeply depressed, there is little chance im going to spend £3000 when I could get it for £2000 in the US of A...
I may follow SDK^s lead and plan a holiday for later in the year and pick one up myself... or take the lazy option and harass Mr Kerso and/or Digtial Rev.
Having just seen the £/$ RRPs im deeply depressed, there is little chance im going to spend £3000 when I could get it for £2000 in the US of A...
LOL. You're depressed?. I'm coming to the conclusion that what I need if anything is a lot more pixels, for bird photography anyway, and that means mega bucks. :gag:
2Ds :thinking:
I can sort of understand the logic of of them maintaining the 1 which has denoted Canon's flagship SLRs since the EOS 1. It will look a bit daft though when they get up the Mk 10. I suppose they'll just go with Roman numerals?
SeanBoyce
23-02-2007, 08:55
Since my 350 had to get fixed, I been thinking that I might get a new Digital Canon Camera,This could be the Last Camera, I would ever want to bye.I always had good Lenes,but lower end Camera's.Its Weather sealed and lighter.As I get older, holding camera's all day takes a little more energy,so I will wait to see what Reviews are from Photographers on the 1DMarkIII. Sean
Jonnyreb
23-02-2007, 09:03
I'm just watching prices drop on the 1D MkII n (above!!). Sod a new MKIII, if the same thing happens to the 1Ds that's where my pennies will go!
Now if they fitted a swivelling live screen that would be really something and potentially far more useful.
Yeah the new 'Live View' LCD is kinda useless without a flip out moveable screen so I would guess the MKIIIn will have that feature, albeit in a year's time.
Also, it doesn’t look like the 1Ds MKIII and 40D are going to be announced this quarter so will they have incorporate Live view and a flip out screen when they are launched in August ? Perhaps the 40D will but not the 1Ds ?
dougdarter
23-02-2007, 11:02
I've just looked at Park Cameras, and they're already knocking 30% of their Canon DSLR range.
CarlOgden
23-02-2007, 14:18
http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos1dm3/index.html
I've got my name on Kerso's list to purchase said beast :)
Carl.
If i had a 1D 2N i wouldnt bother rushing to upgrade to the Mk3 but as i have a 20D i can see a LOT of things worth upgrading to a MK3 for specially as a 2n was on the cards anyway :)
Same here just gotta find the dosh now :D
iso 6400 :naughty: sounds fun how grainy can ya go! :lol:
malla1962
23-02-2007, 17:36
Anybody in the market for a 1D would obviously do well to wait for this one, but there's nothing there to tempt me to want to swap my current version. The pixel increase isn't a really significant difference (unless the the Dogic 111 processor makes a substantial difference) and I don't use the 8.5 fps I already have.
Beautifully spec'd camera though. :)
Same here,I dont think ile mis the extra 1.5 FPS.
malla1962
23-02-2007, 17:39
The UK RRP is £3,049 :thumbsdown:
Now way am I paying that when it's $4k in the US, so i'll pick one up in November when I'm there :)
That price means nothing,when it hits the shops I recon it will be about £2400
That price means nothing,when it hits the shops I recon it will be about £2400
I doubt it'll be that low - maybe £2800.
Anyway, my point is the RRP in the US is $4k which when converted to £'s is much lower than the UK RRP.
I take your point that usually sellers go below RRP but that also applies in the US, so the price difference will remain.
If you're right and it does actually launch at £2400 (£650 less than RRP) then that equates to $2700 = £1350 \o/.
Highly unlikely though ;)
That price means nothing,when it hits the shops I recon it will be about £2400
It will depend on demand I'd reckon. I can see a lot of folk going for it and if Canon keep supply tight there's no reason why they won't be able to keep prices at or very near to RRP.
antonroland
23-02-2007, 19:47
So you don't think that professional photographers (who are frequently standing in the middle of a crowd of photographers/journos) might find it handy when they hold their cameras up in the air to get photos, for example?
And before you ask why that matters to you, it doesn't. The 1-series is aimed at working pros.
My main reason for being impressed with the feature, though, was simply that I read a very well-written, convincing article about how difficult it would be for camera makers to put a "live LCD" (like you get on point'n'shoot digicams) into a DSLR. The article said there were only two ways to do it and both had massive sacrifices. Basically, you either had to black out the viewfinder or sacrifice half the light in order to split the incoming beams between prism and sensor.
So Canon have obviously found a way to do it. I thought that'd be fairly big news and I'm surprised it's not.
Not that difficult if Samsung (I'm sure) could pioneer it in their DSLRs...
If memory serves me correctly they put a smaller secondary sensor in the prism roof and that gives a live view without sacrificing much light if any at all.
Only problem is I don't think it will incorporate a flip-out monitor screen so so much for shooting over the heads of other people
:shrug: :bonk: :D
antonroland
23-02-2007, 19:49
Besides have any of you thought what a 1D mk xxx would look like with a powershot A6XX style flip-out monitor??
:gag:
:lol:
tango charlie
23-02-2007, 19:58
i wonder why canon didn't leak this story a few weeks ago???
i'd have thought the sooner it came out the more people would have put off going for other makes....(i'm guessing they wouldn't sell that many mk2's)
Warehouse Express : £3049
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/index.asp?PHOTO/digicameras/Canon.html#1d3
I doubt it'll be that low - maybe £2800.
Yep - I paid £2799 for my n when they were just launched and like hens teeth to get hold of.
I shall almost certainly be in the market for one of these - it'll have to wait until next winter mind you. Lots of plus points over the 30D - particularly if I can take my speedway stuff forwards over the coming season. The Mk2n would have been a bit of a tough call to be honest because of the smaller LCD screen - so this release makes life easier.
I The Mk2n would have been a bit of a tough call to be honest because of the smaller LCD screen - so this release makes life easier.
The n has the new larger screen. ;)
The n has the new larger screen. ;)
The N also looks like a good buy, maybe better in a month. :whistling: :runaway:
The N also looks like a good buy, maybe better in a month. :whistling: :runaway:
Indeed! ;)
If as I suspect the n gets down to around 1800 quid it's gonna be an absolute steal! :thumbs:
If as I suspect the n gets down to around 1800 quid it's gonna be an absolute steal! :thumbs:
If it gets to that point I'll miss the 20D :lol:
If it gets to that point I'll miss the 20D :lol:
ROTFL. :lol:
I love mine and wouldn't dream of swapping to the new model for the marginal improvements. A lot more pixels might have attracted me but Canon clearly want to keep the speed up, which is one of the cameras biggest strengths.
The n has the new larger screen. ;)
Ooh now does it....hmmmm....I wonder if there will still be any about to be had for a bargain price by the winter?! :thinking: Oh well, if not I'll just have to have myself a MkIII instead won't I!! :lol:
Ooh now does it....hmmmm....I wonder if there will still be any about to be had for a bargain price by the winter?! :thinking: Oh well, if not I'll just have to have myself a MkIII instead won't I!! :lol:
LOL. You can't really go wrong can you? :D
Hi,
would this be a worthy upgrade from the 350D? :D
I better head over to the For Sale Forums and pick up all the Mark II bargains.
I don't think I could ever justify that much cash on a camera to the missus, but I suppose some of the features might filter ( pardon the pun ) down to the lesser models in time.
Mike.
LOL. You can't really go wrong can you? :D
I think it's called being between a marshmallow and a soft place CT!!! :lol:
Wyvern971
26-02-2007, 13:34
I am quite tempted to get one of these to complement my 5D :)
Only thing is as Canon don't do international warranties on bodies I'm a bit dubious of getting one abroad
looks like I was wrong about holding prices. :eek: :eek: :eek: This is just commercial stupidity IMO :(
http://www.rgb-tech.co.uk/product/1423
I am quite tempted to get one of these to complement my 5D :)
Only thing is as Canon don't do international warranties on bodies I'm a bit dubious of getting one abroad
Get it with the MACK warranty which is taken here I believe.
CarlOgden
26-02-2007, 19:11
Kerso gives a UK Invoice so you get warranty!
Carl.
Don't think I've ever pressed the shutter button while the lens is off my camera :)
Don't think I've ever pressed the shutter button while the lens is off my camera :)
i know i havent ! lol
antonroland
27-02-2007, 14:43
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:eek: :eek: :eek:
MUST GET ONE!
:lol:
looks like I was wrong about holding prices. :eek: :eek: :eek: This is just commercial stupidity IMO :(
http://www.rgb-tech.co.uk/product/1423
I wonder if that price will hold until they are released or whether they will put it up to the same £3000 other retailers are Pre-ordering at...
Pre-Order placed with RGB-Tech... hope they arent a dodgy outlet, as ive never heard of them before this thread.
Johnny1982
04-03-2007, 22:50
For a sales site they have a fairly basic looking site. I wouldnt like to risk it personally but you never know when your lucks in or out.
Well ive had a phone call from them today... the havent accepted my pre-order as they only want to take 6 pre-orders.. im number 7 and they cannot be sure they will get that many bodies in stock at launch. :(
mfwild13
06-03-2007, 13:05
Pre-Order placed with RGB-Tech... hope they arent a dodgy outlet, as ive never heard of them before this thread.
I bought my 30D from them last year just after it was announced. No issues whatsoever and I got a good price too :)
Well RGB have put their price up to £2999, so thats pretty much made my descision for me...only Kerso left to get a quote from and then based on that ill be getting a 1dmkIIn instead.
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