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matty
02-04-2005, 22:43
Im rubbish at this theme, but i managed to get some shots

http://www.thephotographyforums.com/albums/matty/issue1.jpg

http://www.thephotographyforums.com/albums/matty/issue2.jpg

http://www.thephotographyforums.com/albums/matty/street_018_Medium.jpg

finally settled on this one though, with lots of help and advice from steve along the way

http://www.thephotographyforums.com/albums/matty/bigissue_Medium.jpg

comments/critique very welcome

IanC_UK
02-04-2005, 22:49
Im no expert mate, i like 2 and 4 though ! Not sure about the first one, cant make my mind up if i like it or not ! Seems a little busy, but does show street off !

Better than my totally missing efforts though ! lol

Steve
02-04-2005, 22:51
Err can I say I like the last one best ;) The whole idea of processing the image to be part b&w and part colour. The crop is great and the slight blurred out background isolates the subject. I also like the way the street woman is looking down symbolising that she is down on her luck and the gentleman approaching is also looking down (maybe by accident) but this also could represent his embarrassment at the woman’s predicament.

Too deep?? :D

Steve
02-04-2005, 22:53
Not sure about the first one, cant make my mind up if i like it or not !

Its the blonde that's distracting you and clouding your vision :lol:

IanC_UK
02-04-2005, 22:54
Way deep Steve, but is a very nice picture ! :)

IanC_UK
02-04-2005, 22:54
Not sure about the first one, cant make my mind up if i like it or not !

Its the blonde that's distracting you and clouding your vision :lol:

Thats very possible ! ;)

Steve
02-04-2005, 22:57
I have to say that I am a sucker for a photograph that tells a story as well as being pleasing, that extra element can really make a difference. The last picture firmly sits in that area.

dod
03-04-2005, 10:07
I'd say the last one as well. It looks like she really doesn't want to be there and the guys made up his mind not to have eye contact.

petemc
03-04-2005, 10:15
I agree with Steve. The last one is the best. The first is a good idea but its a bit blown out. The 2nd doesn't feel right as she is playing to the camera, smiling just a bit. The 3rd is missing something compared to the 4th. Like Steve said, the 4th tells a good story. She's a bored, waiting for the next sale and could it be that guy? Nicely done :) I tried the same thing yesterday but I just couldn't pull it off, you've done it nicely.

lolyton
03-04-2005, 10:52
IMO this doesn't really say street to me, it says more about street life and street living (which is an interesting subject). I am not a judge, but if i am looking at the brief and these images then i would like to see more than just a particular part of what goes on on the street. Pinpointing one aspect of something does help to keep things simple and can often work but in this case i think it is too specific and IMO just misses the point a little.

I think a similar shot could work, just maybe standing to one side of the Big Issue lady at just more of an angle than you have in the last image, and widening up the lens a little to include more of the actual street (the habitat of the big issue lady). I feel this approach would satisfy the brief more and say a lot more from a 'picture in the life' point of view of a Big Issue seller. Always interesting to see the extent people go too to avoid the more unfortunate society members and will always be an interesting image (IMO).

Just another idea you could buy a few Big issues and lay them infront of you and get them in shot to make it look as though you are the big issue seller and capture an image from street level looking up at the passers by. This in my mind (i may not have described it too well) will give the street 2 aspects, one that it is just a thoroughfare for most and passes by without a second thought to most consumer crazed worshippers and 2nd that it is infact a home for an awful lot of people who are in the most part ignored and invisible to just about everyone. Of course you would have to take quite a few shots to get the reactions you are/i am, looking for/thinking of. I'm thinking wide angle lens, and largeish feet/boots and good street detail with maybe some litter/chewing gum etc.

Just an idea.

matty
03-04-2005, 14:52
thanks for the comments guys, lolyton i know what you mean, but time has run out for me on this theme, as Steve will tell you i certainly had a few shots but the ones above are the only ones that really had any chance of being used. Im happy with my final shot, i used my calculator cam, had i have had my canon on me i think i would have got more into that shot, much better wide angle on it!
I do think it says street, the reason being 1)its outside on the street, 2)big issue only sold by homeless people on the street, i know its subjective though!

Steve...Very Deep indeed....too deep? i dont know. Let you know whn the judges finish scoring

Digital SPG
03-04-2005, 15:08
Out of the 4 i think the first one is the best for the subject matter. People walking past the big issue seller as most do. Needs a bit of work in the conversion though. Are you shooting in RAW yet?

Arkady
03-04-2005, 15:17
Agreed, shot one has the most potential.
Better would have been a closer crop on the seller's face (looking sideways, perhaps?) and using a slower shutter speed to blur the passers-by. Even 1/30sec would do the trick.

matty
03-04-2005, 15:37
shot them using my casio qvr40, the calculatercam! i didnt take the 300d so i have no-one to blame but me. the first is already a crop of the original shot..so not much i can do with that that way..and as already mentioned, thehighlights areblown