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A.Gibson
21-12-2009, 19:22
i spotted this lens on amazon the other day after buying my siggy 70-200, is it any good and why the hell is this 500mm so cheap? lol
am i missing something here or what?:thinking:

http://www.amazon.com/Opteka-500mm-Preset-Telephoto-Cameras/dp/B0007SVHNY

kevshore
21-12-2009, 19:26
I would hazard a guess that it may make a good door stop. ;)


Kev.

Tbabe
21-12-2009, 19:26
you would be better off with a toilet roll tube & a pair of glasses on the end !:gag:

A.Gibson
21-12-2009, 19:30
lol i thought as much.lol
has anyone ever bought one you think? and actually took a decent shot with one, i cant find any sample images. hmmmmm i wonder why.lol

kevshore
21-12-2009, 19:37
Something like this?
http://digital-photography-school.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/portrait-out-of-focus.jpg

:lol: :lol: :lol:

SamuelHearn
21-12-2009, 19:51
I think its a mirror lens.. Im not sure on that because it doesnt actually say.
But yeah lots of people hate mirror lenses because they generally produce really flat, un-contrasty images because they work in a different way to other normal lenses.. In short its just a complete ****piece compared to any nikon, sigma or canon.

A.Gibson
21-12-2009, 19:52
hahahahahahahahahha thats it its deffo sold on me now.lol
it looks like a toy but not as real as a toy.lol

SamuelHearn
21-12-2009, 19:55
On further research, it appears to be about as sharp as a crayon

A.Gibson
21-12-2009, 20:02
a crayon thats been used for well over 10 years n never seen a sharpener buy any chance.lol
i wasnt really thinking of getting one it just intrigued me if anyone had had one or ever used one.lol

bemcsa
21-12-2009, 20:04
I think its a mirror lens.. Im not sure on that because it doesnt actually say.
But yeah lots of people hate mirror lenses because they generally produce really flat, un-contrasty images because they work in a different way to other normal lenses.. In short its just a complete ****piece compared to any nikon, sigma or canon.

I'm pretty sure its not a mirror lens, although they do make 500mm f6.3 and 800mm f8 mirror lenses.

They are remarkably cheap, but there is probably a good reason for that

Rubber12
21-12-2009, 20:09
Bottom of the thread! one similar...

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=133221

stu_the_flat
21-12-2009, 20:13
I swear that one day I'm going to buy one of these just to see if the are really THAT bad! :D

wontolla
21-12-2009, 20:14
It's not a mirror lens. Someone did a review on here some time ago for this lens and I THINK the outcome was that the IQ was awfull, but what to expect from a lens this cheap. There are a couple of reviews on the UK Amazon site HERE (http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B001NMUZR2/ref=sr_1_2_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1), but while they don't actually say they are c--p, they don't say they are good either!

dizidav
21-12-2009, 20:19
Probably be better off with a spotting scope with an adapter.


Dave.

micloi
21-12-2009, 21:38
Actually it looks exactly the same as a used M42 500mm f8 lens I bought the other day from this forum.

To tell you the truth it is not bad at all if there is enough light.

Some images I took (both hand-held at 500mm):
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo311/micloi/Brandon%20Marsh/3-1.jpg
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo311/micloi/Brandon%20Marsh/4.jpg

Rubber12
21-12-2009, 21:41
i reken the qualitys probably about the same as usin a 300mm and croppin the image alot

micloi
21-12-2009, 21:50
i reken the qualitys probably about the same as usin a 300mm and croppin the image alot

I found the quality to be approximately the same as a 300mm f5.6 with an 1.4 TC (making it a 420mm f8 lens).

Difference is that the 300mm+1.4x TC would cost well more than triple of what I paid for the 500mm f8 and I get a bit longer range.

HoppyUK
21-12-2009, 22:43
It's not a mirror lens. Those can actually be quite good, considering the price.

It's a very, very basic long focal length lens (technically not even a telephoto, I think) with maybe three elements, instead of up to 17 for a top lens. F/8 max, manual focus, manual aperture control. Sharp as a sausage.

Pretty useless for anything serious :thumbsdown:

micloi
21-12-2009, 23:04
with maybe three elements:

Lens Construction: 7 elements in 5 groups, Angle of View: 5°, Minimum Focus Distance: 33 ft. Focus Modes: Manual focus Minimum Aperture: f/8.0 Maximum Aperture: f/32.0, Filter Size: 67mm

And as for the quality, do you have one as well, or have you tried one?

HoppyUK
21-12-2009, 23:54
Lens Construction: 7 elements in 5 groups, Angle of View: 5°, Minimum Focus Distance: 33 ft. Focus Modes: Manual focus Minimum Aperture: f/8.0 Maximum Aperture: f/32.0, Filter Size: 67mm

And as for the quality, do you have one as well, or have you tried one?

Haha! Oops! Oh well :shrug:

Not used that one, but something similar many years ago. It was awful. Like that one. Poor sharpness, and it's very hard to control CA with long lenses without lots of expensive glass, as your sample pictures show.

IMHO. Sorry. No offence itended :)

Chaz Photos
22-12-2009, 00:05
WEll it price is cheap because how its made.
It is not a telephoto lens BUT a long focus lens.
a telephoto lens is a specific construction of a long focal length photographic lens in which the physical length of the lens is shorter than the focal length. In these lenses the optical centre lies outside of its physical construction, such that the entire lens assembly is between the optical centre and the focal plane. A regular lens of a focal length that is longer than what is considered a normal lens is not necessarily a telephoto lens. A telephoto lens has to incorporate a special lens group known as a telephoto group; nevertheless, non-telephoto lenses of long focal length are often informally referred to as telephoto lenses. The angle of view created by a telephoto lens is the same as that created by an ordinary lens of the same specified focal length.

HoppyUK
22-12-2009, 00:22
WEll it price is cheap because how its made.
It is not a telephoto lens BUT a long focus lens.
a telephoto lens is a specific construction of a long focal length photographic lens in which the physical length of the lens is shorter than the focal length. In these lenses the optical centre lies outside of its physical construction, such that the entire lens assembly is between the optical centre and the focal plane. A regular lens of a focal length that is longer than what is considered a normal lens is not necessarily a telephoto lens. A telephoto lens has to incorporate a special lens group known as a telephoto group; nevertheless, non-telephoto lenses of long focal length are often informally referred to as telephoto lenses. The angle of view created by a telephoto lens is the same as that created by an ordinary lens of the same specified focal length.

In fact, I think it is a telephoto design, which explains the relatively short length (only about 300mm long) and the extra elements. It certainly says it is, but then the manufacturer's description says a lot of implausible things.

Those extra elements must be the 'telephoto group' stuck on the end - same thing as a built-in teleconverter. Makes the lens physically shorter, but doesn't help sharpness.

micloi
22-12-2009, 09:23
To sum up it is a very cheap lens with average capabilities so if you can afford something better go for it, if not then this is better than anything else you can get at the price.

A.Gibson
22-12-2009, 16:53
think ill give it a miss.lol i think ill just buy a TC for the 70-200.lol