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Janice
11-03-2007, 11:37
I can never work out which is best.... a 75-300 F4-5.6 or a 70-200 F2.8

which is better to sacrifice... the extra zoom or the f stops?

obviously i am talking about taking photos at its extreme length as that would be the reason i would be using it.....so no point saying "Go for the 70-200 and walk closer"! If its birds on a feeder for instance.

I have the 75-300 already. dont know if i ever got a 70-200 would it be able to completely replaced the former? (probably just dreaming anyway!)

Joe T
11-03-2007, 11:41
The 70-200 2.8 is miles better....

Add a 1.4tc for the extra zoom when necessary.

Janice
11-03-2007, 11:44
Thanks Joe! I hoped youd say that! ;)

Joe T
11-03-2007, 11:59
Thanks Joe! I hoped youd say that! ;)

I aim to please... ;)

dazzajl
11-03-2007, 12:08
With a f2.8 lens you could use a 2x TC without any real issues and end up with a 400 f5.6. I'd suspect that the quality would be a fairly large step up from the lens you have now too. Any f2.8 lens is usualy a far better bit of glass than a f4 to 5.6 version.

If it's a real possibility to swap, I'd grab it with both hands. :)

Janice
11-03-2007, 12:20
oooh no! Unfortunately a swop isnt in the pipeline! :(
I was just wondering what next to set my sights on! :D

digitalfailure
11-03-2007, 13:13
70-200 f2.8 is a much better option Janice.

I had a 75-300 IS and found it rather soft above 200mm unless stopped down to f8 or so, I now have a Sigma 70-200 f2.8 with their 1.4x TC and although that still only takes it to 280mm the quality is much better.

Matty tried the 2x TC on his sigma and iirc he found it too soft at the long end so replaced it with the 1.4x

Muler
11-03-2007, 13:38
why not look at a Canon 400mm f/5.6? it'd be the same as using a 70-200 with a 2x tc, but i can imagine the quality being alot better.

oldgit
11-03-2007, 14:04
As the others have said. The 70-200 is not even similar in IQ to the 75-300, totally differen league.

Aside from that the 70-200 is about 4 times heavier and costs... well you know that much.

Lets put it this way. Having got the 70-200 I'm totally sold.

Witch
11-03-2007, 14:12
The 70-200 2.8 is miles better....

Add a 1.4tc for the extra zoom when necessary.

Couldn't agree more Janice - I wouldn't swap my 70-200 for anything now! I've not been disappointed with shots even using the 2x TC either.

EOS_JD
11-03-2007, 14:16
Janice
What 70-200 are you looking at? What do you plan to shoot? Weddings? Sport?

Sigma have a nice one if you are thinking of a non-IS model but I would strongly advise looking at one of the IS models (f4L IS or 2.8L IS).

Really depends on what you shoot.

Janice
11-03-2007, 14:18
The cheapest! Birds really. Just something to get close enough.
I will be saving for months and months so its nothing I will be gettting any time soon.

With summer coming I think a macro lens will be my first object of desire!

Joe T
11-03-2007, 15:24
Theres always the 70-200 f4.

EOS_JD
12-03-2007, 02:29
I'd say 70-200 f2.8 or f4 if that's all you can afford. The 70-200 f4L IS may be a good option too depending on what other subjects you shoot.

Macro - I have the Canon 100 f2.8 and is a great lens.

matty
12-03-2007, 13:13
sigma 70 - 200F2.8 EX DG HSM is the one i have, with the 1.4 EXTC. bit short at zoos, but its a top class lens. the 2x TC was not good, only marginally better than the 70-300 in pq, so i returned that and kept the 1.4, that gives excellent quality still. Ive now ordered a 170-500mm to go with the 70-200, should give me a huge amount of backache lugging them around.

AdWright
12-03-2007, 13:15
How about the 100-400 L IS? Same sort of price bracket as the Canon 70-200 L 2.8

dod
12-03-2007, 13:17
The cheapest! Birds really. Just something to get close enough.
I will be saving for months and months so its nothing I will be gettting any time soon.

Don't rule out the sigma 100-300mm F4 either. Goes well with the 1.4X extender too to give you 140-420.

Jonnyreb
12-03-2007, 13:19
sigma 70 - 200F2.8 EX DG HSM is the one i have, with the 1.4 EXTC. bit short at zoos, but its a top class lens. the 2x TC was not good, only marginally better than the 70-300 in pq, so i returned that and kept the 1.4, that gives excellent quality still. Ive now ordered a 170-500mm to go with the 70-200, should give me a huge amount of backache lugging them around.

170 - 500?? Crazy man!! if theres a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now (JL to complete :))

matty
12-03-2007, 13:47
..its just the sprinkling of the mayqueen...

i like motorsport but always found the 300mm sigma a tad short, and the same at zoos, so the 170-500 should open some interesting doors...

Grendel
12-03-2007, 13:48
I think it's a spring clean Matty :lol:

Jonnyreb
12-03-2007, 13:53
..its just the sprinkling of the mayqueen...

i like motorsport but always found the 300mm sigma a tad short, and the same at zoos, so the 170-500 should open some interesting doors...

filthy mayqueen!

.... and windows:naughty:

Nice spec - 9 blades is pretty cool. And for a 500, not a bad weight either. be interested to see the results from that, Matty

Grendel
12-03-2007, 13:57
filthy mayqueen!



You can't call Janice that! :nono: :lol:

Jonnyreb
12-03-2007, 14:26
horribly misquoted!!!!

lol :clap: :lol:

matty
12-03-2007, 14:40
that old TDK advert springs to mind...

i will do a review of it when i get it, and the 70-200, and the TC, and the rechargeable batteries from Eneloop ive got to try too

Janice
12-03-2007, 14:44
if theres a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now (JL to complete :))

I LOVE that song!! :D

"sprinkling of the may queen" indeed!!! :lol:

matty
12-03-2007, 16:54
when a song has lines like 'our shadows taller than our souls' then i think changing one line to something that makes more sense is fine, lol

anyway

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Grendel
12-03-2007, 17:02
when a song has lines like 'our shadows taller than our souls' then i think changing one line to something that makes more sense is fine, lol


If you prefer your Mayqueen to sprinkle Matty, that's fine by me :lol: :D

:)

photostar_1
14-03-2007, 21:12
....so,.... coming back down the Stairway and into real life....(I know, I know, but this thread is about Janice and her new lens), ....I've spent ages deliberating and have finally placed my order with Kerso for the Canon 70-200 f2.8 plus the x2 converter. I hope that this way, I'll be able to do wildlife with the converter on (f5.6 and above) and without it......absolutely anything! I know it's a lot of pennies, but I've had a B awful 12 months, and having lost 1 stone in weight :woot: I reckon I deserve a Mothers day pressie from me to me!!

Jonnyreb
14-03-2007, 22:01
....so,.... coming back down the Stairway and into real life....(I know, I know, but this thread is about Janice and her new lens), ....I've spent ages deliberating and have finally placed my order with Kerso for the Canon 70-200 f2.8 plus the x2 converter. I hope that this way, I'll be able to do wildlife with the converter on (f5.6 and above) and without it......absolutely anything! I know it's a lot of pennies, but I've had a B awful 12 months, and having lost 1 stone in weight :woot: I reckon I deserve a Mothers day pressie from me to me!!

Nice one - good for you, you do deserve it :) :thumbs:

oldgit
14-03-2007, 22:15
:agree: (sorry to rob your thread Janice, but it is the best lens out there for IQ... honest)

chewyuk
15-03-2007, 00:01
....so,.... coming back down the Stairway and into real life....(I know, I know, but this thread is about Janice and her new lens), ....I've spent ages deliberating and have finally placed my order with Kerso for the Canon 70-200 f2.8 plus the x2 converter. I hope that this way, I'll be able to do wildlife with the converter on (f5.6 and above) and without it......absolutely anything! I know it's a lot of pennies, but I've had a B awful 12 months, and having lost 1 stone in weight :woot: I reckon I deserve a Mothers day pressie from me to me!!

Fair play to you :) You'll love the lens I'm sure of that...Would love to get my hands on one of those soon .... Let us know how you get on.

photostar_1
15-03-2007, 00:02
Save a bit longer, Janice......you owe it to yourself to only get the best. Anything less and you will just keep saying "if only".....

chewyuk
15-03-2007, 00:03
exactly my thoughts, the F4 keeps on jumping out at me, but I'm holding out for that 2.8 IS :)