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PaulBoy
16-03-2007, 17:54
Hi - I was showing someone at work some of my better bird pics which I have printed myself in A4 - To my suprise my colleague wants to use a dozen of them to create a calendar & insists she pays for the pics used - I have no idea how much to charge her? - I was going to burn the pics onto a CD for her to upload to wherever she intends getting the calendar done (photobox or similar I believe) - Any suggestions what I should charge her? Or would be it be better for me to get the calendar done myself & charge her for that based on what it costs me to have it done?
Hope you can help ... Paul :thinking:

Dan Leach
16-03-2007, 18:09
I'd be interested in this. A few people have asked me how much they could buy one of my pictures, ive always been happy to give them away free :)

hypnotic
16-03-2007, 18:16
Only you can decide this one Paul.

But ... If she is looking to make money from these calenders then so should you imo.


:canon:

markgray
16-03-2007, 18:23
If she is going to be selling the calenders then you could ask for an amount from every one sold. If it is for personal use then i'm not sure. As above its your choice, maybe ask what she would be willing to pay.

..MD..
16-03-2007, 18:32
good luck with this problem paul ..
hope you decide what to do
i can see your problem . you dont want her to be saying the tight git would only let me have the shot for x amount
but on the other hand you should make something ..
wathching this thread mate to see how you get on

PaulBoy
16-03-2007, 20:30
Thanks everyone for your replies - I can see this is a problem that some have had or might have in the future? - The girl at work told me her grandad is an artist / painter - he does wildlife / birds & he'd love to see my pics & possibly paint some of them? So the calendar would be a one off just for him I presume?
I've heard people here & elsewhere talking about pics that they sell online from a gallery website - Maybe somewhere like that would give an idea of what price a pic is worth? (or is it a flexible thing?)
I am tempted just to say "just give me what you like for using the pics" as I wasn't really expecting anything but it would really help to have an idea as at the moment I haven't a scooby :bonk:
Any further help would be appreciated - Paul :thumbs:

oldgit
16-03-2007, 20:33
Janice and Hacker have had some experience flogging shots on a comercial basis, they may be able to shed some light here.

PaulBoy
17-03-2007, 07:55
Janice and Hacker have had some experience flogging shots on a comercial basis, they may be able to shed some light here.

Thanks oh old one - no sign of them yet so I'll ping them ... Paul :thumbs:

Janice
17-03-2007, 08:06
Its a bit hard to say in your particular case Paul.

I sell A4 unmounted shots at about £15 each - landscapes and whatnot.
Portraits are around the same sort of price.

I would get the calendar made for them I think. Then what they do after that is their lookout.

As for someone painting from one of your photos..not sure what I think of that....or what to charge really. It is your copyright after all. He will no doubt sell the painting afterwards.

I took all the shots for a calendar last year.....Tea Ladies Revealed!! and we sold loads and took over £1,500 for the cricket club...........but I did the photowork free.....as the printer was printing them free.

Sorry not much help! :|

HIMUPNORTH
17-03-2007, 08:36
Paul

Your problem really comes about by not knowing what you are selling. Most pros sell on a set of criteria if giving the photos in electronic form. e.g. agreed uses such as "for use in company brochure, advertsing and web-site" or "exclusive use for calendars and greeting cards for 18/24 months". This way you are asking them to pay for use in a certain way which has been agreed and therefore easier to find a mutually agreeable value. Any deviation can then be dealt with legally.

If just giving a print then normal copyright should apply and you should reinforce that statement in the sale invoice.

Like all transactions you should work from a legal/self protection standpoint towards the sale agreement.

HTH.

Gary

TheRedUn
17-03-2007, 08:54
Agree with getting the calendar made up, either by yourself or 3rd party. If you give away/sell a disc of images they'll be used everywhere. No reason why you shouldn't take a bit of creative control and bit of extra cash as well...

PaulBoy
17-03-2007, 10:06
Thanks Janice, HUN & TRU lots of helpful advice there :thumbs: - Will have a chat with the girl at work & try to come up with something that covers the points raised here :thinking:
Paul ;)