View Full Version : Round 2 of the Photography Competition - RESULTS
The results are in and have been verified and checked. Round two of the photography competition has been won with a clear majority by Mr feeson. Congratulations buddy. Second place goes to one of our new members, Gary Bagshawe and Mr Steep takes a well deserved third.
Below is the complete list of final positions, where two members have ended up with the same total I have placed the member with the highest place vote/s above the other. As Mr feeson has gain a clear majority this has meant that many worthy entries have missed out on points, blame him ;)
Congratulations to the three winners, and to all the people that have entered. Remember it’s not the winning that really counts; it’s the taking part and improving your photography that matters the most.
Now is the time to consider all the pictures and offer everybody that entered some thoughts on their photographs. Feedback is essential to improving.
Mr feeson has the privilege of choosing the subject for round three. Make it a good one sir.
Feeson =35points [smilie=f:
Gary Bagshawe =22points [smilie=s:
Steep =15points [smilie=t:
Gregeff =13points
KenCo1964 =10points
MyPix =9points
Matt =9points
Aeryk01 & Dod = equal placing with 4points
Digital SPG =3points
C.T. =3points
Silkstone & Oz = equal placing with 2points
Adrian & Petemc & Dave = equal placing with 1point
The following people supported the rest but unfortunately for this round did not score any points. Better luck next time guys.
Wazza
PaulB
Dlh
EosD
Ppuga
Stewart
Arkady & Ronny have been disqualified for not voting.
Arkady & Ronny have been disqualified for not voting.
Ooooh tsk tsk ! ;)
Hopefully i will be able to have a go at the next round, as long as work or other commitments dont stuff me up again ! lol
Congratulations to everybody though, even the photos that scored lower (or no) points were flipping excellent ! and some ideas there that i probably wouldnt have thought of !!! :)
Congrats Feeson on an excellent win.
Also to all that entered.
Well done Feeson! Hope your choice of the next subject is a good 'un :).
well done to Feeson, havnet looked to see what belonged to who....must do better next time though, no votes, shameful!
congratulations to the ' winners '
i think i may have even voted for one or two of you :roll: , lol
well done everyone else, even the non-scorers, as it takes gutz to even put urself up for judging ,
finally, thanks for everyone who voted for my pic of the Sydney Opera house, i'm glad you liked it
MyPix :)
congratulations to the ' winners '
well done everyone else, even the non-scorers, as it takes gutz to even put urself up for judging ,
finally, thanks for everyone who voted for my pic of the Sydney Opera house, i'm glad you liked it
MyPix :)
I think you forgot to thank somebody else? no? :wink:
congratulations to the ' winners '
well done everyone else, even the non-scorers, as it takes gutz to even put urself up for judging ,
finally, thanks for everyone who voted for my pic of the Sydney Opera house, i'm glad you liked it
MyPix :)
I think you forgot to thank somebody else? no? :wink:
Indeed Sir, your efforts don't go unnoticed :).
well done to Feeson, havnet looked to see what belonged to who....must do better next time though, no votes, shameful!
hehe, dont feel bad!! I have no votes on mine too, hehe. Its a shame.
So we will have to do it better next time!!
So, congrats to Feeson!! And the other winners!
let se **** will be the new subject of Round 3. Hope to have better luck next time.
Cheers. :D
I think you forgot to thank somebody else? no? Wink
No Steve - you have enough holidays already, lol!
(Oh ok, thanks for not entering - I guess I got some votes cos of it!)
Many congrats to Feeson on his win - the photo is pin sharp and building design is really abstract yet intruiging.
Picking a few of the others, for no reason and in no particular order:
Dod - the shed is a simple composition but well taken
Gary - the demolition looked kind of super imposed and the background was too overpowering
EOSD - well taken pic but not my cuppa
Aeryk - great vibrancy of colours, but perhaps lacking a focal point?
Anyway, these are all my own opinions and other will probably disagree - it's just my viewpoint. Well done to everyone for having the balls to enter. I will deffo do it again, and in a nervous way I'm looking forward to feedback on mine. I think I know what some of it will be, but bring it on...
Well done everyone. Feeson richly deserved that IMO. I'll try to write up my thoughts about the entries a liitle later. No-one should feel disheartened if they did poorly, there were some great shots there.
Jings Crivvens! 3rd place??? thank you all for the vote of confidence I appreciate it :)
Now I did some critiques before I knew who had taken which shot so I've just added the names. Don't shoot me if I didn't like your shot, I've tried to give positive critisism throughout.
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Shot 1 Arkady, the wood door and latch. I like this shot as a photograph particularly once I'd downloaded it and viewed it in ps elements, but, it doesn't say 'architecture' to me. A nice example of the texture of old wood.
Shot 2 Aeryk01, I very nearly voted for this one, it is a very good example of over the top architecture, the architect is obviously colour blind :)
Shot 3 Adrian, This one says more 'abstract' to me, I like the way you can see the other office block through the tunnel of the foreground one, it gave a good sense of depth to the image, not so sure the pink thing helps the shot.
Shot 4 CT, beautiful building, I'm always fascinated by victorian buildings, the figure on top of the arch has so much life in it. Nice shot but I felt there were better ones this time round.
Shot 5 Wazza, is this in Brighton or somewhere? I'm sure I've seen it in real life. I don't think the tree branches in the foreground help your shot and a different angle might have accentuated the buildings' eccentricity.
Shot 6 Dave, Nice sky but the building is very dull, there's nothing to say "hey! look at me" there.
Shot 7 Ronny, gives me vertigo! Would the same shot taken on the corner showing two sides have worked better?
Shot 8 Silkstone, seems flat and dull, I don't think you did the church justice with that shot though not having seen the whole building I can't tell for sure.
Shot 9 Matt, My vote for third place, there's a huge array of designs here from 'normal' to almost popeye. What let it down slightly was the wasteground on the left and that the image was really too small to do justice to all the elements in it.
Shot 10 Dod, I don't know what to make of this shot, I doesn't seem to fit into the theme from my point of view and seems very soft/out of focus with no 'catch' to it.
Shot 11 Steep, what can I say, brilliant ;) ahem, no. This is Eden Court Theatre in Inverness in case anyone wondered.
Shot 12 Petemc, Could have done with some perspective adjustments on the cathederal and needs rotating slightly (going by the cylinder thing in the foreground)
Shot 13 Gregeff, my second place vote, a very vibrant shot full of life and shows the use of modern materials in building very well.
Shot 14 Gary Bagshawe, very dark and apocalyptic shot this one but still a bit flat I thought.
Shot 15 KenCo1964, shows a lot of the building elements and the stone bannister slashing up to the right and into the image really drags you into it but there's not much there when you get in. Sharp and well exposed but not interesting enough to take a place from some of the others.
Shot 16 Paul B, can't see the architecture for the trees and the shot appears to be out of focus. I don't know if you could have got a better angle on the buildings?
Shot 17 Dlh, Good use of toning and light but it like some of the others doesn't say architecture.
Shot 18 Digital SPG, The blown highlights and slightly soft look to the background buildings spoil this shot I think, though it's a cracker of the wheel.
Shot 19 Feeson, the winner for me, very interesting angle, leads the eye into the image and the building looks very unusual, the elements here work well together to make a good photograph.
Shot 20 EosD, is it just me, or are many of the shots this month a bit soft and flat looking? I like the lines here, the building flows round with the river well but the edge distortion spoils the effect a bit.
Shot 21 MyPix, This shot was very close to third place imo, it's well set up and well exposed but greyscale left it lifeless I think.
Shot 22 Ppuga, shows the building elements well but as a photograph it just didn't appeal to me.
Shot 23 Oz, The windmill has a lot of potential but it looks lifeless, if it's a working mill a tiny bit of motion blur in the vanes would do wonders for the shot and concentrate more on the mill and include less of the trees to the left.
Shot 24 Stewart, The sloping roof leads well into the image but the building itself doesn't have a lot going for it, maybe a larger shot would have been able to shot it to better advantage.
wow Steep. Excelent comments on all the pictures!! I agree almost in everyone.
And I totally agree with mine, as a photo doesn't appeal, after I send it, I keep thinking that this wasn't a good one, but i want to enter Round 2 anyway hehe, so there it is hehe. Thanks for the comment. ;)
Well done Feeson, thanks for the critique Steep. :) I was trying to get something different from all the expected building shots but it doesn't work as well as it could, a straight black and white and cutting down that tree would help. ;)
I almost forgot, Big thanks to Steve for being so efficient again!
Steep, thanks for the comments, the building is actually a round, it was quiet hard to it to look right due it being a wide angle shot, i had to level it up cos my camera shoots horizons off-level *cough*
I almost forgot, Big thanks to Steve for being so efficient again!
Steep, thanks for the comments, the building is actually a round, it was quiet hard to it to look right due it being a wide angle shot, i had to level it up cos my camera shoots horizons off-level *cough*
Is that in Maidstone EosD ?
Looks like a building i saw there a few weeks ago ! :)
i had to level it up cos my camera shoots horizons off-level *cough*
Mine has that problem too :)
certainly is! Down by the river, SteveG,(digital SPG)should know it too....tis a funny bugger!
certainly is! Down by the river, SteveG,(digital SPG)should know it too....tis a funny bugger!
Yeah near the town centre, just by the river ! :)
I was working a stones throw from there and drove past it ! :)
:shock: flippin eck! silky just told me, I thought it was his strange sense of humor at it again.
Thanks to all.
AquilaEagle
24-04-2005, 21:13
newbie here - where do i see these pics? :)
newbie here - where do i see these pics? :)
http://www.thephotographyforums.com/index.php?set_albumName=Round-2-Architecture-buildings&option=com_gallery&Itemid=58&include=vie w_album.php
AquilaEagle
24-04-2005, 21:15
doh - should have guessed! Thanks :)
Shot 23 Oz, The windmill has a lot of potential but it looks lifeless, if it's a working mill a tiny bit of motion blur in the vanes would do wonders for the shot and concentrate more on the mill and include less of the trees to the left.[/size]
Hi Steep
Thanks for the feedback. It is a working mill, but wasn't running at the time I took the pictures. I thought the tree on the on the left might balance the height of the windmill, but having done a tighter crop just now, I see what you mean and think my entry would have deffo benefitted from it. I've also tried a slight motion blur, but it doesn't quite look right to me, if I'm honest,
Cheers, Oz
Digital SPG
24-04-2005, 21:30
Big well done to the winners and everyone who submitted and thanks to the voters as well. Hurry up with the next theme so i can get planning. 8)
:shock: flippin eck! silky just told me, I thought it was his strange sense of humor at it again.
Thanks to all.
Get your thinking cap on and choose a new subject for round 3 !!!! :lol:
Well done the top 3, Amazing shots and I'm so glad you guys won. :)
I got a whole point which made me joint with cyKey, so that makes me feel better :)
Arkady.
What a fantastic shot. As an exercise in texture it's superb - you can feel that handle! It just doesn't say Buildings and Architecture (B&A henceforth)
Aeryk.
A nice picture of a pretty building, lacking in a focal point I thought. That heavy frame is also a strong hint as to who the author mght be - it's becoming a bit of a trademark Aeryk (wink).
Adrian
My choice for 3rd place. Bold composition and I liked the strong use of pink in the foreground.
CT
Well it's a detail from Walall Town Hall which is an incredibly OTT gothic building in that curious pinkish sandstone.
Wazza
Again a nice picture of a pretty building. I think you had to try and convey a bit more than that to be in the running.
Dave
Technically good shot with a curious blue cast unless it's actually that colour. The composition didn't quite work for me .
Ronny.
Again a technically good shot of the Eiffel Tower which has been done by just about everybody. It's a shot of the Eiffel Tower which doesn't say B&A. I have to keep reminding myself that that's the theme,
Silkstone.
The shot just didn't stand out enough in this company. Sorry mate.
Matt.
My 2nd place choice. It says B&A on a grand scale as well as being a beautifully exposed shot, the better for being taken while there was still some light.
Dod
Interesting picture, I can see your argument that it fulflls the brief perhaps. Stickingthe shed right in the middleof the picture didn't help it.
Steep
I liked it a lot. Is that a sepia treatment?
Petemc
I'd never have sussed this as being Pete's work - it's so far removed from his usual style. The converging verticals could have been corrected pete and the shot just lacked a bit of punch.
Gregeff
Nice shot. I thought I was looking into the rigging of a sailing ship at first!
Gary Bagshawe
This was a great idea and I came close to voting for it. The problem for me was that the sky was so contrasty and obviously manipulated in relation to the foreground which lacked punch. The horizon looked particularly dodgy. Better PS skills could have made much more of this shot.
KenCo1964.
This was a classy shot using subtle textures and subded colours. I'd never have sussed Ken for this one which shows just how much he's improving. The composition was a problem for me with the foreground balcony almost barring your eye from continuing into the shot and lacking a focal point beyond the foreground
Paul B
This shot sums up the difficulty of architectural photography. If you try to encompass the whole building it's difficult to convey the scale of it. It's interesting that the shots which have done well have isolated some feature of the building - with the exception of Matt who's gone further back and encompassed the big picture.
Dlh
Different and brave. LOL
Digital SPG
Another guy with a style all his own who turns in some great stuff. This shot says 'Big Wheel' more than B&A which just goes to show how difficult this theme was.Great shot though.
Feeson.
A cracking surrealist shot, which screams B&A. A thoroughly deserved winner.
EosD
Technically good shot lacking a bit of imagination?
MyPix
A nice shot and in view of his recent travels, I pretty well guessed the author. The horizon is slightly off level but it's a classy shot.
Ppuga
Technically good shot, a bit sombre perhaps and not different enough compared to the competition.
Oz
Nice pic of a windmill Oz. LOL
Stewart
A noble attempt to be different. A decent sky could have made SO much difference to this shot.
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Well done everyone. There wasn't a bad shot in there and the standard was excellent.
I have a serious question for all the members.
As one of the admin team (me ;) ) has to organise and run each round of the competition it has meant that I didn’t enter. Would anyone have any problems with me entering the next round of the competition in exactly the same way as everyone else.
Obviously you would have to trust me not to vote for my own entry and not to fix the scores but apart from that small point everything should be ok, yes? :lol:
Seriously if anyone has any objections at all…please post them.
I dont have a problem to be honest, could a poll be setup for the votes ? that way there could be no accusations of fixing etc ?
I have a serious objection. You should be banned from all competitions.
Just kidding mate. How can anyone seriously expect you to put the time into this that you do and forego the fun of entering?
I have a serious question for all the members.
As one of the admin team (me ;) ) has to organise and run each round of the competition it has meant that I didn’t enter. Would anyone have any problems with me entering the next round of the competition in exactly the same way as everyone else.
Obviously you would have to trust me not to vote for my own entry and not to fix the scores but apart from that small point everything should be ok, yes? :lol:
Seriously if anyone has any objections at all…please post them.
No objection at all. Your photography has impressed me no end, and if entering some of it in the next competition helps raise my game a bit, that's a good thing :).
I dont have a problem to be honest, could a poll be setup for the votes ? that way there could be no accusations of fixing etc ?
Nope unfortunately not as each member would only be allowed one vote in a forum poll and there is no way to check who has voted for what, everyone could vote for their own and that would make the whole thing pointless.
If you think about it now I could be fixing the scores but I have nothing to gain by doing that now or in the future. Winning by cheating is a hollow victory with no honour.
I dont have a problem to be honest, could a poll be setup for the votes ? that way there could be no accusations of fixing etc ?
Nope unfortunately not as each member would only be allowed one vote in a forum poll and there is no way to check who has voted for what, everyone could vote for their own and that would make the whole thing pointless.
If you think about it now I could be fixing the scores but I have nothing to gain by doing that now or in the future. Winning by cheating is a hollow victory with no honour.
Wasnt suggesting there would be any fixing mate, just trying to pre-empt objections ! :)
Why not Steve? Its not like there is a cash prize at the end of every month :D
If your putting in the work you may as well have some of the fun, your honest go for it :wink:
And anyway even if you voted for your own shot it's just one -vote or am I missing something? :?
And anyway even if you voted for your own shot it's just one -vote or am I missing something? :?
Good point ! If you are only allowed one vote even if you vote for your own pic, you would still only get one vote ? Unless you got to everybody else ! ;) then that would be norty ! :)
Wasnt suggesting there would be any fixing mate, just trying to pre-empt objections ! :)
No, I wasn't suggesting that you where, just pointing out what could happen. If everyone agrees I could post all the votes submitted to the next round as well, that way everyone could check who has voted for what and everything would be transparent.
Although any fiddling would be apparent it may put some people off as they may not wish others to see which they voted for?
Nothing is ever straightforward but I would like to keep things as simple and fair as possible.
No objections from me matey.
You might find you've got a bit of competition now though, some great images this round.
And anyway even if you voted for your own shot it's just one -vote or am I missing something? :?
Good point ! If you are only allowed one vote even if you vote for your own pic, you would still only get one vote ? Unless you got to everybody else ! ;) then that would be norty ! :)
No the problem is that EVERYONE could vote for their own if it was done in a poll therefore everyone could end up with the same scores and the comp could be a draw with everyone holding first position. Unless you mean me vote for myself under the current system, in which case that comes back to you trusting me?
No objections from me matey.
You might find you've got a bit of competition now though, some great images this round.
Without meaning to sound arsey...thats why I would like to enter :)
Although any fiddling would be apparent it may put some people off as they may not wish others to see which they voted for?
Nothing is ever straightforward but I would like to keep things as simple and fair as possible.
Tell me about it mate ! at least its friendly on here ! I been a mod on another site where it got VERY unfriendly ! lol
As for others worrying about being seen who they voted for ! Cant see how that would be a problem, as somebody else said (sorry forgotten already) there isnt a major prize at stake, no money etc, just the kudos of choosing the next rounds subject matter, and getting praise from everybody ! :) I personally wouldnt mind who knew what picture i had voted for, i would be more worried about people wanting to keep it secret ! ;)
No the problem is that EVERYONE could vote for their own if it was done in a poll therefore everyone could end up with the same scores and the comp could be a draw with everyone holding first position. Unless you mean me vote for myself under the current system, in which case that comes back to you trusting me?
Blimey that would be really sad wouldnt it !!!!! LOL what a commentary that would be ! Everybody gets one vote nobody wins !!!!! LOL
As i said trusting you isnt an issue mate, i mean what possible reason could you have to fix it, if you won every time people would soon get fed up and complain anyway ! Just trying to think of ways to get around what could be objections, thats all ! :)
What I meant Steve was that if everyone voted for their own entry under the current system, not that I'm suggesting that they should, it wouild even out, and it would be the votes for 2nd and 3rd places which would decide the winners.
IMO the winner isn't the person who comes first, its the person who learns and benefits most from the experience.
Don't know where that came from :D
IMO the winner isn't the person who comes first, its the person who learns and benefits most from the experience.
Don't know where that came from :D
Whooooah !!! Deep Matt VERY deep :)
Steep
I liked it a lot. Is that a sepia treatment?
Cheers CT, no it's taken at night, the building has strong halogen type floodlights that shine down the walls from the top that turn out yellowish on the image. I tried a few different tones but all made it look over worked so I stuck with some levels adjustment. Did you get the sense of 'evil' eyse looking out at you? it's what I was thinking of when I took it.
Steve by all means enter. The issue of everyone voting for themselves is really a non issue, since we all vote for 3 images not just one and while it's true that some would vote for their own, any image not worthy of more votes just won't get them.
Congrats to EVERYONE for fine contributions this month. A most excellent display of everyones techniques & creativity in capturing awesome shots.
btw, Steve... I think it would be a crime if you DID NOT enter the next one. You've done a hell of a job and we all know your character & integrity on the issue. So...by all means... shoot away, man..
Eric
The system will not be able to be cheated once I have finished Steve, so concerns on voting for ones self won't come into it.
I know you would give yourself [smilie=f: [smilie=s: [smilie=t: but measures will be put in place to stop you. [smilie=g: [smilie=g: [smilie=g:
Steve
Just like everyone else, go shot for the next round! And participate with all of us.
We trust you.
Wow! Well done everyone especially Feeson!! And thanks Steve for doing the paper work :D
I'm extremely happy to come 4th!! What with the high standard of photo's :)
And yeh it's fine with me if you enter next time Steve, i know u won't cheat because there would be no point for you to :)
Edit:/ Just out of interest how does the voting work? Does the first choice get a heavier weighting than the 2nd and the second heavier than the 3rd etc? Or is each worth the same as each other?
Edit:/ Just out of interest how does the voting work? Does the first choice get a heavier weighting than the 2nd and the second heavier than the 3rd etc? Or is each worth the same as each other?
For every 1st place vote that a picture recieves I award 3 points, 2points for a second place vote and 1 for a 3rd position. After all votes are recieved I add up the total for each which has given me the order from highest to lowest. Where more than one image shares the same total in points, the one that recieved the highest position number votes gets a higher place (ie 2 pictures get 4 points in total each, picture one gets a 3point and a 1point, picture 2 gets two votes of 2 points, therfore pic one gets a higher placing)
Clear as mud?
Digital SPG
25-04-2005, 00:07
I object to Steve entering. :evil:
On the grounds that he is too damn good :P
Cheers Steve for Clearing that up :)
I thought that would be how it was done, seems like the best way :)
WOW 0 points, not bad for a first time entry, it was only a happy snap, of that nice wonky house in WINDSOR town centre near the castle (Not Brighton) Congratulations to the winners. (Can we have a special award for all of us o pointers. Tee hee, wazza will have to try harder next time.
Aha! I knew I'd seen it :) went to Windsor once and spent the day wandering around.
So looking at all the pics again. I see Candid and little bits of buildings and accute angles and strange ways of looking at things gets results. I am really going to have to work hard for the next round. Its most enjoyable seeing the entries at the end to see what other people think and shoot, winning is only secondary to the thrill of being part of the same gang who all contributed. Some really great shots. My favourite was the Steps, all green and old (A bit like me really) Right off now to snap a few dragons and to check out the sights.
Have to say what a fantastic set of photos - great inspiration
Gary Bagshawe
25-04-2005, 09:23
Congrats to feeson, I am very surprised to get 2nd place but thank you. I would also like to thank (no its not an oscar speach) all of the people who offered constructive criticism. Really looking forward to the next round.
Shot 12 Petemc, Could have done with some perspective adjustments on the cathederal and needs rotating slightly (going by the cylinder thing in the foreground)
Nuts never noticed it :)
Petemc
I'd never have sussed this as being Pete's work - it's so far removed from his usual style. The converging verticals could have been corrected pete and the shot just lacked a bit of punch.
Ah well :) It was a hard shot to take, a vertical panoramic. The building is simply huge and my 50mm isn't the right lens for the job. I was really stupid to show my other shots in another thread as that was definetly the better shot.
Congrats to the winners, cracking shots.
Well, I did a crit, so as I typed it I may as well post it, I'll get me coat -
1) Arkady - I was strongly drawn to this for a couple of reasons, its a well taken shot and a well spotted subject it also served as a reminder that architecture is not just bricks and glass but the whole, with no finishing touches structures have no soul. One of my 3
2) Aeryk01 - this would be a good promo shot, there is nothing wrong with it
3) Adrian - I kept wondering what the heck that pinky thing was, this shot just did nothing for me sorry.
4) CT - I think it would have been better if it was tighter in on the statue but my eye kept getting pulled to the empty lighter sky in the shot above it.
5) Wazza - The tree pulled this shot down for me and I think a lower angle on the shot would have served better but that being said I found the building itself interesting.
6) Dave - I liked this, I enjoy the way the pipes lead you in and up, only thing I'll throw at it is, for me, there is a little too much sky at the head which costs the shot some of its impact.
7) Ronny - A shot thats not singing to me I think I'd have liked to have seen the legs to give the structure some weight.
8 ) Silky - I'd have liked to have seen the full "Methodist church" wording but I knew that was what it said I guess and its a good representative picture of the type of buildings they prefer and reflects the personality of those who use it so it fits the brief.
9) Matt - this is a great shot but it did not fill the brief as well as others did for me, part of that may be the size limitation of the competition.
10) Dod - I find this quite a difficult one, it looks soft to me and I dont like the way that everything bar the roof has been desaturated but it has got the "look at me again" factor.
11) Steep - The freaky cylon's eyes, I still dont see building here, however impressive this shot is (and it is for me) I dont get any conveyance of architecture, more mask.
12) Petemc - A good shot of an impressive building. I guess you were out early in the day to get it without people in frame.
13) Gregeff - While interesting this did not fill the brief.
14) Gary Bagshawe - This took my fancy, reminding me of an elephant feeding off a tree, a bit too much at the head, slightly dark and soft but was one of my 3 for the power and being on topic
15) KenCo1964 - I loved this, a good example of architecture, the various mosses and algae look like marbling, the eye gets drawn up the stairs and under the arch you take in the fact that someone cares enough for the structure to have repair made while keeping with the original style, very well spotted and one of my 3.
16) Paul B - I found this lacking punch and somewhat dull TBH, its some trees with a nice building behind it, sorry.
17) Dlh - Interesting but I felt that this could just as easily been a path or garden wall.
18 ) Digital SPG - A good shot of the wheel at night but did not say architecture to me so while I like it I dont think it fitted the theme as well as others.
19) Me
20) EosD - This I looked at more than once simply because I kept getting the feeling that it would have had more punch in colour, I like the subject but it kept saying "show me in colour"
21) MyPix - I dont know what to say here really, there is nothing much wrong with this other than the burnt-out part of the sky but for all they are good looking buildings a differing angle may have provided better results.
22) Ppuga - the brief has been filled but its darkish and not the nicest example of a building there is.
23) Oz - On the whole is a nice pic but for me only half the shot fills the brief.
24) Stewart - This is totally let down by the sky.
12) Petemc - A good shot of an impressive building. I guess you were out early in the day to get it without people in frame.
The beauty of Infrared is that you can do 30 second exposures in the day and you don't have to worry about someone walking through the shot :D
Congratulations to Feeson and all those who got out there and entered. More than I can say for myself :( They were all great pics, it was tough voting for just three. Great subject for next round as well, hopefully I'll make that one, again congrats to all.
Jewel :D
Oh B*ll*x.
Sorry been busy trying to source a replacement engine for the Monty.
Two false starts and one puppy that I bought from a supposed 'mate' for £200 and now, hopefully, I'm sorted.
Managed to get into Brighton on saturday to let the Leica do it's thing ***'...
10) Dod - I find this quite a difficult one, it looks soft to me and I dont like the way that everything bar the roof has been desaturated but it has got the "look at me again" factor.
Thanks all for the critique :) You're the second saying it looks soft and I'd have to agree, composition isn't great either but as there was an MOD fence right behind me and a tarmac road to the left it was the best I could get. I don't seem to be able to see the sort of shots which did so well, especially Steep's shot of Eden Court theatre. The number of times I've been in, and round, there I just haven't seen that. I'm going down tomorrow to see exactly where he got that shot :)
lol dod, standing on the grass outside the bar area, at night, the shot is of the sloped roof area between the two ground floor extension bits. The theatre was shut on a Sunday though I'd like to go again with it open to try and get some ghosting movement shots through the glass windows, I think that could be interesting. I'd better hurry though before it falls down ;)
thanks for the comments Feeson...i black/whited it cos it was a miserable day when i got the shot, a blue sky would have worked wonders i think
Just a few words on this months competition entries, sorry it’s a bit late but better late than never. This month was much harder for me to choose, especially between 2nd & 3rd. considering last month I didn’t vote for any of the top 3 I am pleased that at least I got 2 of the top 3 this time. Congratulations to Feeson, in my eyes this was the clear winner and the points goes to prove it….just wish I had money on it.
There were some very good, imaginative and even brave shots in there. I tried to judge on what I thought I would expect from a magazine or such, after getting it so wrong in the last comp. Weird angles, close ups, colours textures and such, which made it even harder as that’s what most people submitted.
Anyway here goes no offence intended.
1. Arkady: Very nice door and a lovely handle, I would love to see the full door and even the building it belongs to, it makes me want to know, great texture but sadly did not fit the category enough for me to vote on.
2. Aeryk01: a lovely building, nice colour and wonderful clear sky but sadly once again, not enough for me to vote on. Too much like a holiday snap.
3. Adrian: being honest I liked this and very nearly got my vote but, the pink sheet thing distracted too much for me. I loved all the squares, in the windows and looking threw the square to another building with more squares. Excellent. Just wasn’t sure about the pink thing sorry.
4. CT: like Aeryk01 it’s certainly an architectural building but just lacked a punch, different angle or something. Sorry m8.
5. Wazza: I quite liked the building itself and its position in relation to the other buildings, unusual for me anyway. But all I could see was a coffee shop and a bald guy in the window waiting for his coffee. Sorry.
6. Dave: sorry mate but I didn’t really give this one much consideration, a little underexposed (on my monitor) at the lower part of the building and the building itself does not look very interesting to me.
7. Ronny: once again just not appealing enough for me, a good shot nevertheless and well exposed, still a little holiday-e for me, and in my ignorance went for sand and cement rather than rivets and bolts. Sorry.
8. Silkstone: sorry silkstone other than the two crosses in the window there was nothing interesting enough for me to give a vote.
9. Matt. A lovely picture and wonderful colours, in my eyes a wonderful landscape shot, I need to wander around your shot rather than being led. I think a closer more detailed shot of anyone of those buildings, especially with the colours shining out of them windows and you would have given feeson a run for his money.
10. Dod: This is a superb pic, I do really like this, lovely tints on the roofing and the background is or looks nice and soft which I think sets this off. The sloping tree in the foreground adds to the neglect this pic portrays. A brave entry and sadly not fitting my bill.
11. Steep: my second place, it’s whacky, looks like a frog looking back. I like the shape, the lines, the colour and the crop. Well done.
12. Petemc: another with a nice coloured sky and set against the neutral colour of the building. A different angle or slightly closer to the subject could have worked better for me.
13. Gregeff: I thought this was something on a ship or boat. Lovely sky and excellent shapes but as I have said before, rightly or wrongly I was looking more for sand and cement. Still an excellent pic though with great angle and colours.
14. Gary Bagshawe: congrats on second place. I thought this was a great pic but also thought it could have been cropped a little tighter at the bottom eliminating much of the ground. The sky is wonderful and the fact that the flats are leaning gives you the impression that it’s going soon. Sorry mate it says demolition to me and because of which did not get my vote unfortunately. Well done regardless.
15. Mine: out of the pics I took for the comp, obviously this was my favourite, made hard by 2 kids standing behind the top left pillar and kept sticking there heads out. The only off putting thing for me that nobody has picked up on and maybe I should have taken time to clone out are the two plastic coffee room chairs standing on the left behind the banister.
16. Paul B: once again another nice building but just no wow.
17. Dlh: another good and brave entry. And without question sand and cement, I like it, but sadly not enough to vote for in this category against so many other excellent photo’s.
18. Digital SPG: yet another great pic but I thought focused more on the wheel.
19. Feeson: the obvious winner to me and got my fist place vote, well done an excellent shot, lovely colours, nice angle. Very futuristic and looks as if it could be the scene of some sci-fi movie. Impressive to say the least.
20. EosD: looking like it was taken with a wide angle or fish eye lens was the impression I got and sadly did not do anything for me. Still a very clear, sharp pic and the angles on the roof cutting into the sky are well defined. But not on my list.
21. MyPix: reasonably safe to assume this was one of MyPix. And not the reason I gave this 3rd place. I like the never ending triangles I see in this pic, everywhere you look there is a triangle. A clever angle to shoot from creating more triangles. And a lot of texture on the front building. I think this is a very clever pic. Well done.
22. Ppuga: I also liked the angle of this but can’t put my finger on why but just did not figure for me. Sorry.
23. Oz: sorry Oz but another in my eyes that was let down by looking as if it was taken because it was there, rather than up close and personal. No intrigue or mystery could have been so much more interesting, I wish we had a windmill close by.
24. Stewart: sorry Stewart but once again with such high standards set this round I did not give yours much consideration, just no wow.
Please take my comments with a pinch of salt, they are only my reasons as to why I did or did not vote for you pics. I know little to nothing about photography and do not wish for anything to be taken personally. A very good show this month with such a high standard, lets keep it up. Good luck for the next round.
Ken.
4. CT: like Aeryk01 it’s certainly an architectural building but just lacked a punch, different angle or something. Sorry m8.
Ken.
You can be very hurtful when you want to be Ken :cry:
Good critique! :lol:
Sorry mate, I was going to give you lines as well so think yourself lucky.
As many of you know I had been away up to the closing date of the competition which meant I had no time to prepare critique. Unfortunately now I have a few issues at home, but will cover every picture submitted to the competition as time allows. Due to this I will throw them up as and when each is completed so please check the thread as my posts may get mixed up with other replies.
After the thread about “giving a little leeway” I have tried to be honest with my critique and where possible expand on ways that I feel each could have been improved or made more relevant to this round of the competition. In the end though these are just my opinions and observations based on my experience and knowledge, if you disagree then that’s fine and just because I have written it doesn’t mean that it is right.
Picture 1 Arkady- As an image this is stunning, your subject matter is excellent as it is detailed, textured and interesting. You have framed it well with the handle off to the left which has increased the images impact. The exposure and focus are also spot on as we would expect from you. As an image in an architecture competition I think it works well but it says more of detail rather than architecture to me. I still rate this photography highly.
Picture 2 – Aeryk01 – I think you have suffered from the compression used as the picture is scattered with the small white lines that you get if you sharpen and then compress. Your subject offers many different and interesting possibilities for photographs; the picture that you have submitted was taken from a position that has resulted in a kind of flat and un involving result that would be fine for a brochure or advert but up against this standard of creative photography that this competition is attracting, means that it doesn’t attract enough attention to stand out.
Picture 3 – Adrian - Unlike some of our members the pink in the foreground of this image doesn’t bother me at all, in fact it adds to the picture by adding a extra element and offering leading lines into the rest of the scene. It is ultra modern and a complete contrast to the dark “old” architecture of the background. You have used the lines in the front and the lines of the building in the background to frame this picture perfectly on all sides and highlight the “55 North” sign which provides a perfect focal point. This is a well thought out and captured photograph that I would be very pleased with. I am very surprised that it scored so low.
Picture 4 – CT – I think the crop on this image has distracted from its impact. I am not sure if you where trying to show the whole building and did not have a lens wide enough or if you where showing us the detail in the tower? If the latter I believe the image would have been stronger from a more aggressive crop to remove the bottom parts of the building being in frame. I think you where drawn to both the tower and the statue to the left of it and couldn’t quite frame it properly to get the impact. Nice exposure, lighting and post-production though ;)
Picture 5 – Wazza – What an interesting, crooked, and unique building. The problem with this is that you have photographed it from directly in front which has resulted in a flat, 2 dimensional image which will always lose impact. One of the goals that we all aim to achieve is to make a 3 dimensional image on a 2 dimensional format..that being a photograph, or in this case, our PC screens. The tricks we use for this are angles and light, usually early morning or late afternoon/evening as it gives long shadows, emphasizes texture and often improves the saturation by giving warm colours. This subject shot at a different time of day, from a more interesting angle, and with better contrast and saturation would have been a much stronger photograph.
I think you where drawn to both the tower and the statue to the left of it and couldn’t quite frame it properly to get the impact. Nice exposure, lighting and post-production though ;)
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You've pretty well nailed it there - I was trying to get the foreground statue on the lower left third, but couldn't get the angle.
23. Oz: sorry Oz but another in my eyes that was let down by looking as if it was taken because it was there, rather than up close and personal. No intrigue or mystery could have been so much more interesting, I wish we had a windmill close by.
The weather was ok when I took the pic but the sun and wind direction didn't help. The mill has private gardens on three sides, and a pond on the fourth which really limited my options. I took the pic from the far side, and left the tree in for some extra interest more than anything (as said above a closer crop does improve it). I also felt that close up would look crap cos the sails would be offset to where I could get at. Perhaps I'll give it another go next time they have a open day - I've had some useful comments to work from.
THanks Ken, and no offense taken! :)
Picture 6 – Dave – This picture I quite liked, although not as strong as some of the others. The lighting is good and the framing leads your eyes from the bottom of the picture, up the building to the sky at the top. Good depth of field has maintained detail and focus throughout the photograph. It is a very good picture for making something special out of an ordinary subject. Others in this round were strong images though, so although there is nothing wrong with your submission, I believe certain others were rightly placed above it in the results.
Steve and all others who have passed on some great advice re the pics Thank you very much. I am so glad TC or was it CT well thingy bob who reccomended this site did well. Thank you all for honest comments its much appreciated. I have got so much to learn.
Picture 7 – Ronny – A very famous structure which is instantly recognizable world wide. Unfortunately such a famous structure has been photographed countless times so to make yours stand out as a fresh and exciting picture needs it to have some edge or special catch. Although nothing is particularly wrong with this shot there is no edge or wow factor. The lighting is normal; the framing although good, is not unusual for Eiffel Tower pictures, and by choosing this as your subject you have made the competition so much more difficult. Basically I think that although this is a long way from being a “snap” and is a good picture, it’s not fresh or original enough. It’s a shame that you chose not to vote as you would have then been able to see your final, true position.
Picture 8 – Silkstone – This picture is fighting for attention as your crop/framing has removed half of many of the main focal points, the clock, the Methodist Church engraving, the windows and the building itself. It has been photographed straight on and the lighting is not especially different or flattening. If you where new to photography I could understand this picture a little more, however I know you, you are along way from being a beginner and yet somehow I think that I am missing your point?
Picture 9 – Matt – I know a lot more about this picture than most, I know the buildings it features, the location it was shot and also the amount of effort it takes to build a picture from 9 different photographs, matching the lighting, the lines and visualising, composing and stitching together the exposures to get a final photograph. The final picture is stunning, the subject fits the theme perfectly and yet surprisingly, the scores don’t reflect this. Although I understand why, I personally think that the size it has been displayed here and the compression that you used, where the main contributing factors to its final position.
Picture 10 – dod – The sharpness on this shot seems to be out slightly as does your subject choice, however I suppose it does qualify as a building although maybe not designed by an architect ;) I would have preferred to have seen more space around the shack and to have the whole picture in colour, on this occasion I feel the selective B&W has not added to the overall impact and enjoyment of the picture.
Thanks for the comments on my entry. I only had one day to take all my entries for this competition and the OcUK one, due to courseworks. I've got exams to study for now, but after that I should be able to enter some better shots. :)
Thanks for the comments so far. The last month has been pretty hectic for me, having moved house and decorating and all sorts of other real life things. My entry was taken in one of my few spare 5 minutes. I was going to give it a miss this month but felt I should try and enter something :oops:
Promise to try harder next time round :lol:
silkstone
26-04-2005, 17:02
Picture 8 – Silkstone – This picture is fighting for attention as your crop/framing has removed half of many of the main focal points, the clock, the Methodist Church engraving, the windows and the building itself. It has been photographed straight on and the lighting is not especially different or flattening. If you where new to photography I could understand this picture a little more, however I know you, you are along way from being a beginner and yet somehow I think that I am missing your point?
If I told you that I e-mailed the wrong file would you believe me? :oops: This one was actually an attempt to show a Mondrian-esque 2-dimensional pattern in the face of the building. Didn't work though, did it? Pretty c**p in fact. Won't try that again. :lol:
20. EosD: looking like it was taken with a wide angle or fish eye lens was the impression I got and sadly did not do anything for me. Still a very clear, sharp pic and the angles on the roof cutting into the sky are well defined. But not on my list.
Thanks for comments, the building is actually round, so it gives that impression, but then i guess if you havent seen it, you wouldnt know that!
Oh well, live and learn!
will do a write up shortlly....
Many thanks to all who've given me critique on my entry (Which I've summarised)...
Steep - "This one says more 'abstract' to me, I like the way you can see the other office block through the tunnel of the foreground one, it gave a good sense of depth to the image, not so sure the pink thing helps the shot."
CT - "My choice for 3rd place. Bold composition and I liked the strong use of pink in the foreground."
Feeson - "I kept wondering what the heck that pinky thing was, this shot just did nothing for me sorry."
KenCo1964 - "being honest I liked this and very nearly got my vote but, the pink sheet thing distracted too much for me. I loved all the squares, in the windows and looking threw the square to another building with more squares. Excellent. Just wasn’t sure about the pink thing sorry."
Steve - "Unlike some of our members the pink in the foreground of this image doesn’t bother me at all, in fact it adds to the picture by adding a extra element and offering leading lines into the rest of the scene. It is ultra modern and a complete contrast to the dark “old” architecture of the background. You have used the lines in the front and the lines of the building in the background to frame this picture perfectly on all sides and highlight the “55 North” sign which provides a perfect focal point. This is a well thought out and captured photograph that I would be very pleased with. I am very surprised that it scored so low."
Steve pretty much summed up what I'd intended to portray but with hindsight the large expanse of pink building obviously didn't appeal to the majority which I think was due to it's abstract nature so that viewers couldn't see that it's an integral feature of the building. Here's a view from the other side of the "pink thing" :)...
http://freespace.virgin.net/adrian.don/CRW_57972.jpg
Here you are then, my ham-fisted attempt at giving critiques....no offence is meant to anyone, sorry if i have upset anyone!
Arkady
Great texture and lines to this shot, very unusual indeed, pleasing to look at, over all nice
Aeryk01
Nice contrast of colours and lines, but the wall is a distraction for me, not bad...
Adrian
Very interesting, bright pink and tiny bit of blue in the shot, the rest looks b&w..OK but not really my cuppa, sorry
CT
Classic architecture, engaging enough but nothing really throwing itself out at me, sorry
wazza
Such an odd shot! funny old building!
Dave
Interesting shot, good angle and good lines, but didnt pique me as much as some others..
Ronny
My choice for 3rd, classic architecture, lines and nice in mono..just makes me look at this...well done, shame you got disqualified!!
Silkstone
Could have been so much better, i assume you went for something a little different but it didnt quiet come off for me. Sorry
MAtt
Good panaramic shot, but for me, though its a good technical and visual shot, it doesnt shout architecture as loud as the 3 i picked above it
Dod
Cool effect on this, but that tree irritated me a lot, sorry!
Steep
I like this shot alot, at first i though it was a reflection but on closer examination i realised it wasnt. good vision to spot the shot in the building, well done
PeteMc
Didnt have this down as yours Pete, didnt seem like your style! Its OK, its very architectural, but ultimately, its not for me
Gregeff
I like these, wasnt sure quiet what it was, but after seeing the full shots you posted it all makes sense. Again good vision for seeing the piccy tht you got.
Gary Bagshawe
Dramatic sky with a stark image infront of it, not a bad shot, but for me not the best..
Kenco
Very interesting shot, good tecture and lines in it, perhaps would have worked better for me if you had come round a little more and led us into the shot more rather than lead us to an 'out', if you know what i mean
PaulB
Nice idea, the sky could have benifited from a poloriser to bring out the colour a bit, and them trees are annoying!
Dlh
Good texture and feel to this shot, not bad at all for me!
DigitalSPG
Not as good as the one you posted after, but pleasing it is, but youve done loads better
Feeson
The popular choice, its ok, dramatic sky etc but for me, there was a better picture
Eosd
*mine* its curved, honest!
MyPix
My favourite, a classic building from a completely different angle, lines and texture and triangles! Well done.
Ppuga
A nice shot, colours are warm, but ultimately i felt it was missing something
Oz
Pleasant windmill, looks like the Jonathon Creek one, lol...Pleasing shot though, bit more colour in the trees and i think this will be really nice
Stewart
I liked this one, really wanted to see a good sky though, i suffered from the same thing the day i went out shooting, so i know the feeling
thanks to the guys that commented on my entry, left it till the last minute to get an entry in and was dissapointed with the shot as the sky was awfull, will try better next time honest :) .
Picture 11 – Steep – This is a great shot probably due to the way you have seen the final image when it was shot and then cropped it during post production to match your vision. Its almost abstract and holds your attention as you have teased us and we are constantly trying to work out what the building looks like in its entirety. Great lighting has created the ever important three dimensional appearance and has also added to this image’s appeal. I still return to the image to attempt to work out what the machines are that we can see through the windows, that little bit of confusion/mystery also adds an extra level to this image. A very worthy entry fitting of its final position.
Picture 12 – Petemc – not only did I recognise the location instantly, I also recognised your work with it being IR and shot in your style. Although there is nothing wrong with this shot technically (in fact the whole process of shooting IR is very demanding and requires considerable skill) it unfortunately contains no wow factor or visual catch. I can only add that on this occasion this image has been overshadowed by some stunning submissions from other members.
Picture 13 – Gregeff – Fourth position and another interesting, almost abstract image. Bright, vibrant and shot using an interesting angle, this shot once more uses the less is more approach and make the viewer want to know what the rest of this structure looks like. The lines in this remind me of sails on a ship, something that is far removed from the usual architecture structures we expect as subjects in submitted photos, and that also add to the originality appeal. Again worthy of its final position and after seeing the other shots that you posted of this building, you definitely chose and submitted the correct shot.
Picture 14 – Gary Bagshawe – On the surface this is a great shot. It is gritty, unusual, original and very striking. The problem that I have with this is that it’s a composite of two different images that have been joined together quite roughly. The sky is obviously taken from a different photograph and has been edited into the frame probably to make up for a bland or cluttered original background? Although a nice idea that is to be commended, the final image has been let down by the editing. I wonder if it would have taken first spot from Mr feeson if more time had been spent during the post production process.
Picture 15 – Kenco – This image instantly stood out for me, the texture and colours for an old building seem so alive. You have done reasonably well by framing the steps to run through the image but it is still a little un-involving as an image. I don’t know the location personally so it is difficult for me to recommend a different approach to framing this shot, however as both sides of the staircase are intact, by placing yourself between them quite low down would have added lead in lines from the sides and extra depth with the stairs being in the foreground. Obviously the background would be much more prominent so I am guessing that may not be as pleasing as needed, and the main reason why this photograph has been framed as it is? It still did well and many people figured it in their votes.
Picture 16 – Paul B – Unfortunately you have fallen into a common trap and shot the building from straight on. As I have said higher up in the thread, we aim to make a 3 dimensional picture on a 2 dimensional medium and this angle (or lack of it) will never do that. This shot is further let down by the two trees blocking some of the building, again they add nothing and in the main distract from the final image. It’s a noble attempt that suffers from some common photography mistakes that have been highlighted by others and myself here. Hopefully this critique will help you avoid them in the future.
Picture 17 – dlh – This is a very brave and original entry. I consistently struggle with photographing abstracts myself so have the utmost respect for others that attempt and sometimes produce stunning results from this genre. Very obviously a section of a “normal” wall, enhanced by the lighting emphasising the texture, whilst not a show stopping photograph, for me it still does far better than some of the “full building” entries that have been submitted. I can’t say that I am surprised at its final placing amongst the entries, but I feel that the position is not a true reflection of how good this photograph really is. I enjoyed it anyway and think that as a large print it really would take on a life of its own.
Picture 18 – Digital SPG – Ahh the London eye. Considering how slowly this rotates, you picture must have been a substantial time exposure which makes this all the better as you have done well to keep the highlights from being over exposed. Your framing has kept the image fresh but I feel the orange sky from the light pollution in London distracts. By using the grey picker from within the curves option in Photoshop, then selecting a neutral point (maybe on the tall building behind the Eye) you could have balanced the whole picture to reflect a more natural scene and remove the semi sci-fi appearance.
Picture 19 – Feeson – This instantly stood out from all the other submissions. Again an interesting view point of a building from an unusual angle has added real depth and also a sense of scale. The many textures from the materials used in the construction of the building and the not boring but not to busy sky complete the whole image giving it a balanced feel. Curves, straight lines, layers and shapes all add to this shot. I was not surprised by the popularity of this image and believe it to be a worthy winner in my opinion.
Picture 20 – EosD – I can be brutal here as I know Matty well enough by now ;) compared to some of the photography that you have been doing recently this is much more closely related to your earlier stuff. I am sure that this was a last minute attempt to find and capture something just to be part of the competition and if I am being honest, its shows. The building is uninteresting, seems very flat, has converging verticals at the sides and the conversion to B&W doesn’t add anything either. I am sure you won’t take any offence if I say it’s a bold attempt at a poor subject shot with noble intentions?
Wow thanks, I'm really surprised that so many people seem to like my shot, it's a very unusual occurrence for me ;)
The original shot is here, (be warned 3.5mb jpg) http://www.marnoch.org/images/ec.jpg
The cropped area is of the 1st floor foyer/art gallery bit. I originally had intended to use more of the building but cropped in tight because I liked the strong angles, it was only after that I thought of 'eyes' looking out. Tried various toning methods, played about with levels etc but nothing seemed to improve it so I left it as was.
Thanks for all of the comments guys :) Hopefully i will get around to writing some comments at some time :)
Picture 13 – Gregeff – Fourth position and another interesting, almost abstract image. Bright, vibrant and shot using an interesting angle, this shot once more uses the less is more approach and make the viewer want to know what the rest of this structure looks like. The lines in this remind me of sails on a ship, something that is far removed from the usual architecture structures we expect as subjects in submitted photos, and that also add to the originality appeal. Again worthy of its final position and after seeing the other shots that you posted of this building, you definitely chose and submitted the correct shot.
Gregeff
I like these, wasnt sure quiet what it was, but after seeing the full shots you posted it all makes sense. Again good vision for seeing the piccy tht you got.
Shot 13 Gregeff, my second place vote, a very vibrant shot full of life and shows the use of modern materials in building very well.
Thanks! Nice comments :)
13. Gregeff: I thought this was something on a ship or boat. Lovely sky and excellent shapes but as I have said before, rightly or wrongly I was looking more for sand and cement. Still an excellent pic though with great angle and colours.
Gregeff
Nice shot. I thought I was looking into the rigging of a sailing ship at first!
13) Gregeff - While interesting this did not fill the brief.
Thanks for the comments, i can see what u all mean about it looking like a ship and not really being particualy relavent to the theme. However i interperited the theme to be either Architecture OR Buildings and this was architecture :) But i was still a bit iffy about entering it because of this!
Picture 20 – EosD – I can be brutal here as I know Matty well enough by now ;) compared to some of the photography that you have been doing recently this is much more closely related to your earlier stuff. I am sure that this was a last minute attempt to find and capture something just to be part of the competition and if I am being honest, its shows. The building is uninteresting, seems very flat, has converging verticals at the sides and the conversion to B&W doesn’t add anything either. I am sure you won’t take any offence if I say it’s a bold attempt at a poor subject shot with noble intentions?
No problem at all Steve, i would rather have it like it is! I have 2 hates, Architecture and Landscapes, and i had to do both this month, i just dont have an eye for either! I tried to correct the verticals, but cos the building is a curve i found it quiet hard to get it looking right, the weather was crap so the light was poor which just left a bit of a dodgy shot. I must get out earlier!
Gary Bagshawe
30-04-2005, 11:46
Gary Bagshawe – On the surface this is a great shot. It is gritty, unusual, original and very striking. The problem that I have with this is that it’s a composite of two different images that have been joined together quite roughly. The sky is obviously taken from a different photograph and has been edited into the frame probably to make up for a bland or cluttered original background? Although a nice idea that is to be commended, the final image has been let down by the editing. I wonder if it would have taken first spot from Mr feeson if more time had been spent during the post production process.
Actually my ps skills are very poor but this is how I learn, by trying trying and trying again. Thank you for the comments but this shot is actually one shot not two. :shock: The reason it looks like it does is because of my poor selection skills.
Actually my ps skills are very poor but this is how I learn, by trying trying and trying again. Thank you for the comments but this shot is actually one shot not two. :shock: The reason it looks like it does is because of my poor selection skills.
Thats good though, we all learn from seeing something and wanting to use the same technique on one of our own pieces of work. The fact that you understand your weakness and are willing to work at correcting it can only be good. I like your approach in that you are not affraid to try something and even if it doesn't quite work how it should you are brave enough to present your work and learn from the comments and feedback. I also struggle with selction within PS but usually mask over the edges of apply a liitle blur after my editing is completed. I am sure that there must be easier/better methods of doing this but I have yet to master them. Maybe from the comments I have given and your reply here, one of our more professional PS users might kindly make a tutorial on seclections in PS that we can all read, attempt and learn from? Everyone becomes a winner that way. :)
Thanks for your honesty Gary
Good on yer Gary. Any photographer coming from film stock to digital has a hill to climb as far as PS is concerned, and it isn't easily achieved. It's so obvious mate that some of your excellent landscape shots particularly, are hindered by lack of PS skills and it's only natural that that they would be. Your shots of Snowdonia where you darkened the shots ended up with blackish tops on the hills. It was so obvious that the sky needed dealing with as a separate selection, but I didn't comment for fear of being misunderstood or being thought of as some know all smart arse. :(
As for blending two pics together Steve, you've probably described a method I use as much as anything, with your blurring or softening technique, but a lot depends on how difficult the join is. Usually it's the horizon, and mountain tops etc are much easier than foliage. Contary to popular belief some things simply can't be achieved with simple push button solutions in PS and involve laborious pushing around of pixels by hand to achieve good results.
Replacing sky.
I've just done this for a guy I work with to one of his images.
I will try an do a tutorial and get it posted as soon as.
Example.
http://www.mattsphotos.co.uk/albums/DSCF0160a.jpg
http://www.mattsphotos.co.uk/albums/DSCF0160b.jpg
C'mon Steve .
I'm dying to hear what u think about the last 4 pix you aint ' critiqued ' yet :)
MP 8)
Steve's committed for a week or so, and hasn't been able to post much, but no doubt he'll get around to finishing his critique as soon as he can.
Steve's committed for a week or so, and hasn't been able to post much, but no doubt he'll get around to finishing his critique as soon as he can.
cool, no pressure,
MP :)
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