View Full Version : Nikon D3x Woes
Oh wait...there aren't any...:D
Smug as Ferk...:lol:
Richard.T
25-04-2010, 15:53
When I saw this I thought to myself, Everyone with new gear is complaining.. But this is just brilliant! :D
chris321
25-04-2010, 15:53
I thought there was a lot of woe suddenly appearing :D
Well I LUUURRRRRRVE my Canon. No woe at all. I am woe-less :)
Chris
trencheel303
25-04-2010, 15:56
Severe quantities of Pointlessness... This thread has it.
:shrug: :thinking: :lol:
Haha, wonder if any Canonites will bite! :lol:
Severe quantities of Pointlessness... This thread has it.
:shrug: :thinking: :lol:
Taking the P1$$ out of Canon-owners is never pointless, oh foolish woad-painted Northern person...:D
trencheel303
25-04-2010, 16:03
If you don't burger off I'll force HoppyUK to bombard this thread with evidence that filters can degrade image quality! :lol: :nuts:
Andysnap
25-04-2010, 16:04
I have the same woelessness with my D300, oh and my D90, oh and my F301. The link here is of course 'NIKON the art of woelessness'.:D
Andy
itsdavedotnet
25-04-2010, 16:05
I got mine, and tried putting on some L lenses 'cos I heard that they're the best money can buy - and NONE of them would fit! The cheek! Absolute rubbish!
Fortunately I'm pretty handy with all this DIY stuff, so a hammer and some gaffer tape later and I'm ready to go shooting :D
trencheel303
25-04-2010, 16:08
Of course you need L lenses, this NIKKOR crap isn't up to it :lol:
To be fair, my Oly's are pretty woe-less :)
According to 'some' it's a 'fact' that filters cause cancer, premature ejaculation and the Reichstag Fire...
Never mind that your Canon's sensor is made of Ever-Ready torch LEDs and green string, never mind your L-lens is made of recycled plastic milk bottles...nahhh filters did it...they made your images crap...couldn't be the kit, couldn't be the photographer...God forbid...
hypnotic
25-04-2010, 16:10
This has to be the saddest post I have seen in a long time.
Are Nikon sales that bad that they get everyone they can to help advertise?
:shrug:
itsdavedotnet
25-04-2010, 16:12
This has to be the saddest post I have seen in a long time.
Are Nikon sales that bad that they get everyone they can to help advertise?
:shrug:
sour grapes? :D :lol:
Canon are rubbish...
I've been really polite about them for 12 months and I'm feeling withdrawal symptoms...
I kept saying 'may' 'possibly' 'some might find' etc
What i should have said was:
You Idiot! You bought a Canon! Of course your images are rubbish!!!
...think of this thread as an outbreak of photo-tourette's...
Oh wait...there aren't any...:D
Smug as Ferk...:lol:
Brilliant!:lol: My keyboard had a narrow escape from a mouthful of water!
trencheel303
25-04-2010, 16:51
According to 'some' it's a 'fact' that filters cause cancer, premature ejaculation and the Reichstag Fire...
Never mind that your Canon's sensor is made of Ever-Ready torch LEDs and green string, never mind your L-lens is made of recycled plastic milk bottles...nahhh filters did it...they made your images crap...couldn't be the kit, couldn't be the photographer...God forbid...
Good lord.
Boldonian
25-04-2010, 16:58
I thought there was a lot of woe suddenly appearing :D
Well I LUUURRRRRRVE my Canon. No woe at all. I am woe-less :)
Chris
That's beacause you aint got a 7D ;-)
kevshore
25-04-2010, 17:53
Canon are rubbish...
I've been really polite about them for 12 months and I'm feeling withdrawal symptoms...
I kept saying 'may' 'possibly' 'some might find' etc
What i should have said was:
You Idiot! You bought a Canon! Of course your images are rubbish!!!
...think of this thread as an outbreak of photo-tourette's...
Tis a fact that this man speaks the truth. Its just difficult for him being a typical englishman and being super polite ALL of the time.
But having spent so much time in Germany, he is bound to occassionaly have an outburst of honesty.
Try not to take it heart and learn from his honesty. :D
On the other hand he could just be p**ed. :lol:
Kev.
Rovers_Andy
25-04-2010, 17:57
the man he speak the truth :lol:
woof woof
25-04-2010, 18:05
Ah, you lot are just too smug!
I had a Nikon SLR and when I went digital everyone said to get a Canon and I did. With Canon's current line up I wish I'd stayed with Nikon.
Funny how no one is biting. What's the point?
Why argue with an idiot, we will only lose as you will lower you to your own level and beat us!
trencheel303
25-04-2010, 18:20
How can you bite when it's so lolworthy? I nearly spewed the coffee when he mentioned the sensor being made of ever-ready LEDs :lol:
When I want to get my fix of laughing at Nikon users I just head over to Ken Rockwell's page.
itsdavedotnet
25-04-2010, 18:34
When I want to get my fix of laughing at Nikon users I just head over to Ken Rockwell's page.
please, we disowned him years ago...
trencheel303
25-04-2010, 18:35
What's wrong with KR? I enjoy his reviews and find them very helpful.
Some of what he says can be a tad inconsistent, mind.
:eek: :suspect:
:beer::beer::dummy:
:canon::exit::police:
trencheel303
25-04-2010, 18:49
Oi, you selfish git, TWO pints to yourself?! Hand one over! :D
cowasaki
25-04-2010, 18:51
Oh wait...there aren't any...:D
Smug as Ferk...:lol:
Priceless
:notworthy::notworthy:
malla1962
25-04-2010, 18:51
That's beacause you aint got a 7D ;-)??? I have a 7d with no woes at all but there again I know how to use it lol.
the only problem i have regarding a D3x is i can't afford one at the moment :'(
cowasaki
25-04-2010, 18:57
Funny how no one is biting. What's the point?
Why argue with an idiot, we will only lose as you will lower you to your own level and beat us!
Should that not be "Never argue with an idiot, they will lower you to their level then beat you through experience"
Oi, you selfish git, TWO pints to yourself?! Hand one over! :D
Well theres no :POPCORN: icon anymore due to over use. here have a :beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer: :amstupid:
please, we disowned him years ago...
The God of Nikonians disowned?! I highly doubt it!
Should that not be "Never argue with an idiot, they will lower you to their level then beat you through experience"
Nah I am happy with it the way it was except it should have read. ( slight mis spell - Sorry.)
"Why argue with an idiot, we will only lose as you will lower us to your own level and beat us with experience!"
Musicman
25-04-2010, 19:06
According to 'some' it's a 'fact' that filters cause cancer ... the Reichstag Fire...
That bit is probably true. Rumour has i that it was Leni Riefenstahl (known for her innovative use of filters) acting under orders from Hermann Göring, that done it. :)
[though now I'm wondering if malla1962 was responsible...]
If you stack your filters does that make the symptoms worse or does it depend on the type of filters used? I once stacked a cpl with an 85a and I got one hell of a rash on my......
malla1962
25-04-2010, 19:12
That bit is probably true. Rumour has i that it was Leni Riefenstahl (known for her innovative use of filters) acting under orders from Hermann Göring, that done it. :)
[though now I'm wondering if malla1962 was responsible...]Im saying nothing.:D
Well theres no :POPCORN: icon anymore due to over use. here have a :beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer: :amstupid:
Canon users only capable of drinking 8 pints then? ;)
malla1962
25-04-2010, 21:04
Canon users only capable of drinking 8 pints then? ;)Yep any more than 8 and they go and buy a Nikon lol.:banana:
any more than 8 and they get something in focus! ;)
:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer: :beer::beer::beer::beer: This landlord only allows 12
chris321
25-04-2010, 21:31
:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer: :beer::beer::b eer::beer: This landlord only allows 12
You mean 11 beers, a ":b", and an "eer:"
Edit: Or at least you did, until you corrected it! (want to put a : razz : here, but am over the smiley limit : ) )
I see my work here is done...
A fine evening's entertainment - drop a grenade in the room and retire to the sofa for an evening of Buffy DVDs and a 25yr malt donated as additional thanks from a happy client - you can't beat that...lol
any more than 8 and they get something in focus! ;)
No.......It only looks in focus :D
:razz::razz: Breakfast time what to have
http://www.breakfastandbrunch.com/recipes.php
:razz::razz: Breakfast time what to have
http://www.breakfastandbrunch.com/recipes.php
Once visiting the US and staying in Tulsa, OK, I had Maple Syrup over catfish fillet and crispy bacon waffles. Yum!
Buy Nikon, you know it makes sense! :thumbs:
Wondered when the single malt would make an entrance:)
Flash In The Pan
26-04-2010, 14:50
Of course for any Nikon owners wishing to experiene what it's like to shoot with a Canon I can lend them my Nikon->Canon conversion kit
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/sandpaper-1.jpg
simply drag across the sensor and as if by magic people will think you have a swapped to Canon :naughty: :exit:
Sectionate
26-04-2010, 14:51
I have the same woelessness with my battered, bruised and ageing D40.
Of course for any Nikon owners wishing to experiene what it's like to shoot with a Canon I can lend them my Nikon->Canon conversion kit
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/sandpaper-1.jpg
simply drag across the sensor and as if by magic people will think you have a swapped to Canon :naughty: :exit:
Is this the conversion kit for the DX or FX sensor? :p
Is this the conversion kit for the DX or FX sensor? :p
No - that's here:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4_ENQfp-GLg/Sq7rBkE7RmI/AAAAAAAAAlw/glcMUqeZuSs/s320/Stanley-knife.jpg
itsdavedotnet
26-04-2010, 18:25
let's be fair, while they don't throw in the lens hood, canon do include a free image quality upgrade kit with all their lenses...
http://www.camera-news.com/images/pictures/canon-e82u-lens-cap.jpg
knighthawk
26-04-2010, 18:40
No - that's here:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4_ENQfp-GLg/Sq7rBkE7RmI/AAAAAAAAAlw/glcMUqeZuSs/s320/Stanley-knife.jpg
hahahaha i like that one :clap::clap::clap:
Bendihossan
26-04-2010, 18:42
Well I love my 5D 'classic' and it works perfectly so FNUUUR! :P
I have an issue with Nikon :eek:
There are no unmolested D3s in my company so could not get one for Sunday just gone and had to look silly with my D300s... Oh wait I did not look that silly just 3.5K richer for about 7 days... :nuts:
shoshone
26-04-2010, 19:14
I got mine, and tried putting on some L lenses 'cos I heard that they're the best money can buy - and NONE of them would fit! The cheek! Absolute rubbish!
Fortunately I'm pretty handy with all this DIY stuff, so a hammer and some gaffer tape later and I'm ready to go shooting :D
Plonker...you are screwing it on the wrong way duh!
:shrug:
Plonker...you are screwing it on the wrong way duh!
:shrug:
Yeah! :cuckoo:
Yep any more than 8 and they go and buy a Nikon lol.:banana:
We all make mistakes. :D:D
The New MK V looks nice though:D
http://www.gautonphotography.com/Other/General/Untitledr/848774672_E4S2N-M.png
Anorakus
26-04-2010, 22:41
A fine evening's entertainment - drop a grenade in the room and retire to the sofa for an evening of...
<snip>
This is called "trolling".
On other forums you can get banned for it :nono:
Also, I can't take anything you say seriously ever again. Getting Brahms & Liszt whilst watching Buffy The Vampire Slayer, indeed. If it was the second series of Blakes 7 I could understand it :|
A.
As a side issue I was down at my local lake yesterday and a fellow photographer (a professional no less) was discussing the fact that he regularly used ISO 10,000 on his canon 450D and that in his opinion I had wasted my money on a D3 as Nikon were crap LOL, suffice to say I bid him the best of luck. He did give me his business card and I have considered posting the link but suffice to say his pictures were....................... well let say CRAP:D It is good that we can all have a bit of banter without falling out and I suspect we all come across numpys like the one I described, after all it's the pictures that count :thumbs:
Hairyduck
27-04-2010, 06:09
What's the high ISO capabilities like on the D3x, I'm guessing it's nowhere near as good as the D3 because of the pixel size but what's the usable range?
What's the high ISO capabilities like on the D3x, I'm guessing it's nowhere near as good as the D3 because of the pixel size but what's the usable range?
Not sure as I've not owned a D3x but looking at the stats and pictures it is probably a stop or two behind the D3 and better than the Mk 1V.
icecavern
27-04-2010, 07:33
What's the high ISO capabilities like on the D3x, I'm guessing it's nowhere near as good as the D3 because of the pixel size but what's the usable range?
If you only want a 12MP image and so don't mind downsampling the D3x image it's actually just as good. :)
What's the high ISO capabilities like on the D3x, I'm guessing it's nowhere near as good as the D3 because of the pixel size but what's the usable range?
It's rubbish at anything over 600iso, frankly...same as a D2x, more or less
That's why I have a D3 for 'routine' work...
But as long as you know that, it's fine - it does exactly what it was designed to do...
The D3x is a studio or fine-art tool, whereas the D3/D3s is a general-purpose camera - the D3 does everything well apart from really huge enlargements - and I can still get an A1 poster out of the D3 with no artefacts at all...
The D3x is my 'Hasselblad'...
zoidberg
27-04-2010, 07:59
Oh wait...there aren't any...:D
Smug as Ferk...:lol:
you'll soon be selling up and getting a GF1 ;)
you'll soon be selling up and getting a GF1 ;)
I find that...unlikely...I just dusted off my Leica M6 and will doing the 'film' thing for happy snaps for a while now...
zoidberg
27-04-2010, 10:04
I find that...unlikely...I just dusted off my Leica M6 and will doing the 'film' thing for happy snaps for a while now...
lol.
What's this "film" thing you speak of? are they a new format of memory cards?
i can but dream of using a dSLR again, unless i can get a left handed one.
lol.
What's this "film" thing you speak of? are they a new format of memory cards?
i can but dream of using a dSLR again, unless i can get a left handed one.
:lol:
Nearly...each one is roughly equivalent to a 120Mb CF card in terms of storage...and can only be written to once...lol
I know a guy who only has one hand - he just changed his subject matter - concentrated on studio portraiture work instead - uses a cable-release for everything...
I think his 'hook' has now been modified to operate a shutter-button though...
zoidberg
27-04-2010, 10:27
:lol:
Nearly...each one is roughly equivalent to a 120Mb CF card in terms of storage...and can only be written to once...lol
aha, WORM storage then ;)
Haven't used film for about 15 years. last 2 rolls i ever used were reala and velvia.
I know a guy who only has one hand - he just changed his subject matter - concentrated on studio portraiture work instead - uses a cable-release for everything...
I think his 'hook' has now been modified to operate a shutter-button though...
not as bad as that, got 2 arms, just the right one suffers a lot of pain and weight of a dSLR aggravates it.
...Haven't used film for about 15 years. last 2 rolls i ever used were reala and velvia...
Which are the only colour films worth using IMO...lol
It's rubbish at anything over 600iso, frankly...same as a D2x, more or less
That's why I have a D3 for 'routine' work...
But as long as you know that, it's fine - it does exactly what it was designed to do...
The D3x is a studio or fine-art tool, whereas the D3/D3s is a general-purpose camera - the D3 does everything well apart from really huge enlargements - and I can still get an A1 poster out of the D3 with no artefacts at all...
The D3x is my 'Hasselblad'...
Wow I did not know that, still I wouldn't part with my D3 for anything ( well poss a D3s :D)
Wow I did not know that, still I wouldn't part with my D3 for anything ( well poss a D3s :D)
The caveat to that is that you can effectively enlarge a D3x image by a greater amount before that noise becomes noticable though... so when I say it's about the same as a D2x you have to take that into account - images at comparable iso-settings are still about 80% better on the D3x over the D2x...
But I wasn't impressed by the low-noise capability overly much...
I do love it at anything under 400iso though...
And yes...apparently D3s bodies will be back on the retailers shelves this week...:thumbs:
The caveat to that is that you can effectively enlarge a D3x image by a greater amount before that noise becomes noticable though... so when I say it's about the same as a D2x you have to take that into account - images at comparable iso-settings are still about 80% better on the D3x over the D2x...
But I wasn't impressed by the low-noise capability overly much...
I do love it at anything under 400iso though...
And yes...apparently D3s bodies will be back on the retailers shelves this week...:thumbs:
Cheers for that the D3s bit was a little tongue in cheek, I cannot see £2000 for a stop or two of ISO performance over the D3 and a few small changes here and there. I am going to wait till the D4 as I suspect it is going to be rather special, just as the D3 was back in 2007 :thumbs:
Rovers_Andy
27-04-2010, 16:57
the D3S is superb and the high ISO blows canon out of the water (i switched from Canon in March) some test shots on my flickr :)
the D3S is superb and the high ISO blows canon out of the water (i switched from Canon in March) some test shots on my flickr :)
I know :D but so does the D3 hence not bothering to change just yet :D
Rovers_Andy
27-04-2010, 18:00
I know :D but so does the D3 hence not bothering to change just yet :D
You know you want to :naughty:
I have a feeling that the D4 may have a new auto focus system amongst other things, just a hunch but they have produced nothing new since the D3, apart from the D3s upgrade. Sure with my type of photography I could use the extra ISO performance but at around 2k ish it is not that important to me:D Also knowing me I'd plumb for the S and then have to change again so even more money.
I love my D3 and do not see myself changing sides as it perfect for what i do.
Now what's my limit on my credit card :)
I think things are going to slow down drastically from now on actually...
The massive leaps in technology have plateau'd, so to speak...I think future models will have some very minor tweaks with regards mechanical advances - the major steps forward will be issued as firmware updates...and you don't need new bodies to do that...
We've got so used to seeing new cameras every two years or so, with sub-model upgrades every 12 or 18 months...
Remember in pre-film days, Canon and Nikon only released new Pro cameras every ten years or so...
I think we'll soon be back to that kind of advance...maybe 5-yearly upgrades...
I do hope so. I'm loving it's little sister, the D700. :)
...and whereas in the recent past you could tell the difference between shots taken on a D1, a D1x and a D2x, now you can't...
At the resolutions I work at, I can barely distinguish images taken on my D3 and D3x...colours are the same, rendering is the same.
Only when I pixel-peep can I tell one from another...so for all practical purposes, my D3 is good enough...and will be for the forseeable future...
There was also no appreciable difference betweeen some test shots taken on a D5000 and my D3 a few months back (at the size I usually end up with after P&P).
Buying decisions will now have more to do with the camera's physical and mechanical features, rather than IQ...
There was also no appreciable difference betweeen some test shots taken on a D5000 and my D3 a few months back (at the size I usually end up with after P&P).
I wonder how many people have all singing, all dancing DSLRs and use them for e-bay shots and other net use so only really need a 1/2 decent compact?
I think things are going to slow down drastically from now on actually...
The massive leaps in technology have plateau'd, so to speak...I think future models will have some very minor tweaks with regards mechanical advances - the major steps forward will be issued as firmware updates...and you don't need new bodies to do that...
We've got so used to seeing new cameras every two years or so, with sub-model upgrades every 12 or 18 months...
Remember in pre-film days, Canon and Nikon only released new Pro cameras every ten years or so...
I think we'll soon be back to that kind of advance...maybe 5-yearly upgrades...
Oh well we can all live in hope looks like I'll be keeping my D3 for a very long time then :thumbs:
lawrenceots
28-04-2010, 16:02
I've gone all bicameraal again (happened a while back).....to the point that I am a whisker away from pressing the paypal button to a Canon 500D.....to compliment my Nikkor 600mm AIS ED. And my D5000 of course - cracking little beast. :)
Oh, its is strictly ONLY bicameral...nothing else has changed. ;)
Anorakus
28-04-2010, 16:03
I've gone all bicameraal again (happened a while back).....to the point that I am a whisker away from pressing the paypal button to a Canon 500D
I'm about to do the same with a Nikon D700 :nuts:
A.
lawrenceots
28-04-2010, 16:06
I'm about to do the same with a Nikon D700 :nuts:
A.
Cool - and keep the 5D 2 as well? If you can't beat em - join em. ;)
Of course for any Nikon owners wishing to experiene what it's like to shoot with a Canon I can lend them my Nikon->Canon conversion kit
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/sandpaper-1.jpg
simply drag across the sensor and as if by magic people will think you have a swapped to Canon :naughty: :exit:
The New MK V looks nice though:D
http://www.gautonphotography.com/Other/General/Untitledr/848774672_E4S2N-M.png
I actually laughed out loud when I saw these! :lol:
Sorry (not really!) to bring this up again, but I've only just caught up on the thread! :bonk:
:nikon:
Ajophotog
29-04-2010, 10:46
Nothing like an Old Nikon head having to reassure himself that nowt is wrong with the gear he has chosen, I guess I would be the same too if I owned such equipment.
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