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milou
05-06-2005, 10:46
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/features/digital-picture-britain.shtml

A DIGITAL PICTURE OF BRITAIN
Sunday 5 June - Sunday 10 July 2005
As part of A Picture of Britain, Eamonn McCabe and other top photographers chronicle Britain's urban, rural and industrial regions using the latest digital photographic technology.

Plus compo: http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/apictureofbritain/competition.shtml

Steep
05-06-2005, 12:22
oooh something we all get involved in!

Steve
05-06-2005, 13:14
I have just checked out every picture in every gallery there and just about anyone from on here could beat most of that with their eyes closed.

This is crying out to be won by one of our members!!!!!

matty
05-06-2005, 13:30
ive entered.....lol

Vote for Me!!

Steve
05-06-2005, 13:32
ive entered.....lol

Vote for Me!!

Never I tell you MAhhhhhhhaaaa :lol: :twisted: :twisted:

Which is yours matty?

matty
05-06-2005, 13:36
it will be inrural if it gets accepted, you will recognize it...

petemc
05-06-2005, 13:44
I have just checked out every picture in every gallery there and just about anyone from on here could beat most of that with their eyes closed.

This is crying out to be won by one of our members!!!!!

Agreed. I think from reading the rules you can enter as many times as you want, as long as they are different subjects. Although, there is this annoying rule;

Photographs should not be cropped or altered from the original, nor should panoramic settings be used..

Matt
05-06-2005, 14:13
Agreed. I think from reading the rules you can enter as many times as you want, as long as they are different subjects. Although, there is this annoying rule;

Photographs should not be cropped or altered from the original, nor should panoramic settings be used..





Thats will make you think about your shots more.
Most digital photo comps have the same rulings.

petemc
05-06-2005, 14:18
Thats will make you think about your shots more.
Most digital photo comps have the same rulings.

But isn't a bit odd that a "Digital photo comp" rule is that you can't alter your shots, or at least enhance them a little. We all know how photoshop can help warm up our images from the cameras defaults, and given that it is a "digital" comp, seems really silly.

Matt
05-06-2005, 14:20
you will still be able to alter the levels, curves and sharpen your image.

The reason they use these rules is so photographers enter it, not graphics designers.

petemc
05-06-2005, 14:30
Ah. So RAW editing is ok, as its a feature of the camera, but I wonder where they stand on the use of say an overlay layer. I use these on my shots in place of a real world filter to adjust the sky so its not blown out.

Matt
05-06-2005, 14:33
You'll have to do that at the shooting stage I'm afraid.

Any adjustment that adds to the image will be looked on as cheating.

Exposure correction is all that is allowed.

petemc
05-06-2005, 15:35
Bah. These people need to get with the times. A lot of my images will be unnaceptable simply because I didn't use a piece of glass to do the same job.

Steep
05-06-2005, 17:25
As long as what you do is not 'in your face' I doubt they could tell.

matty
05-06-2005, 17:44
i have submitted an image that has been slightly cropped and the levels boosted....wonder if they will notice?!

milou
05-06-2005, 18:11
Submitted my daff snap (with no border /crop etc) for South East (Hampshire in the SE!) rural do-dah:

http://milouvision.net/spring/slides/IMG_0027.html

Steve
05-06-2005, 18:14
Submitted my daff snap (with no border /crop etc) for South East (Hampshire in the SE!) rural do-dah:

http://milouvision.net/spring/slides/IMG_0027.html

Well thats the winner in that section sorted now...we just need to capitalise the others so its an all "photography forum" final :lol:

milou
05-06-2005, 18:19
pfftt

I wish!

But I like the server invasion iiea \o>

matty
05-06-2005, 21:53
gah....better than my tractor

milou
05-06-2005, 22:04
Cobblers - your tractor shot is great :)

petemc
05-06-2005, 22:21
Given that someone has submitted a photo taken on a Lomo LC-A and actually says in his description, "Taken on 35mm film", I'm just going to submit whatever I like :)

Steve
05-06-2005, 22:29
Given that someone has submitted a photo taken on a Lomo LC-A and actually says in his description, "Taken on 35mm film", I'm just going to submit whatever I like :)

Cheat, mesa gonna tell on you :wink: :lol:

petemc
05-06-2005, 22:37
Cheat, mesa gonna tell on you :wink: :lol:

Meanie :p I'm not going to submit a film shot :) Digital only. I was thinking that the rules are a bit ambigious. The rules don't explicitly say you can't use Photoshop and you could interepret the rule where it mentions cropping as that you can't adjust the dimensions of the shot.

Steep
06-06-2005, 07:55
I've been looking at the Shots in Scotland Landscape, there's no way some of them have not been shopped, they're also damned good :(

petemc
06-06-2005, 08:57
I've been looking at the Shots in Scotland Landscape, there's no way some of them have not been shopped, they're also damned good :(

Ah nuts you've just made me realise I put a picture of Ben Nevis in the North section as thats where I'm from not where the shot was taken. I hope they realise :)

matty
06-06-2005, 09:06
i havent had a reply on my shot yet, the aspect ratio should be ok on it, its 600x433, i cropped a tiny bit and added a border, thats why it a bit funny...will see later if it turns up on the site

Steve
06-06-2005, 09:16
I've been looking at the Shots in Scotland Landscape, there's no way some of them have not been shopped, they're also damned good :(

Thats the only section that has any photos of any quality, I feel for you mate.

matty
06-06-2005, 11:37
mine isnt up yet, i expect a good email explaing why its been rejected when i get home then

Adrian
06-06-2005, 11:53
Given that someone has submitted a photo taken on a Lomo LC-A and actually says in his description, "Taken on 35mm film", I'm just going to submit whatever I like :)

The rules say you can scan an image but I still think that goes against the whole point of this.

petemc
06-06-2005, 12:09
Given that someone has submitted a photo taken on a Lomo LC-A and actually says in his description, "Taken on 35mm film", I'm just going to submit whatever I like :)

The rules say you can scan an image but I still think that goes against the whole point of this.

It does? <mr burns> Excellent </mr burns> :D Only for one photo. The yellow field with a tree shot I took with my Lomo.

Adrian
06-06-2005, 12:20
Actually, having a closer look, the rules state that "All photographs must be taken with a digital camera or camera phone. Please retain the original digital file for reference; it may be needed to demonstrate this is your own work.". This is then supported by a large section in "Help with Uploading" which deals with scanning prints (which I saw originally), so I can only assume that the BBC folk think that people are going to take a picture with a phone camera, get it printed and then scan it back into a PC. <Homer> Doh! </Homer> :)

dod
06-06-2005, 12:21
I've been looking at the Shots in Scotland Landscape, there's no way some of them have not been shopped, they're also damned good :(

That's what I thought. The Carr Bridge shot looks like it might have been as well. I seem to remember houses on the bank behind there, could be the memory going though.

matty
06-06-2005, 17:03
holy crap!

9 pages last time i looked, 29 now!! they change the order the piccies show everytime too, so you have to look through all of them to find your own...and mine still isnt on!!!

matty
07-06-2005, 17:18
my piccie is now on!

Vote for ME!!!!!

Steve
07-06-2005, 17:23
my piccie is now on!

Vote for ME!!!!!

I gave you one is that ok? :lol: :wink:

petemc
07-06-2005, 17:28
Whey mine too (http://www.bbc.co.uk/apps/ifl/arts/apictureofbritain/showrecord?Id=5948). :D

matty
07-06-2005, 17:33
here is mine if you want to vote for it, lol

HERE (http://www.bbc.co.uk/apps/ifl/arts/apictureofbritain/queryengine?templatestyle=single&page=63&pagesize= 1&templatestyle=&config=gallery_random&attrib_1=CO MP_THEME;oper_1=%3D%3D;val_1_1=Rural;attrib_2=COMP _REGION;oper_2=%3D%3D;val_2_1=England%20-%20South%20East;attrib_4=cutoff;oper_4=%3D%3D;val_ 4_1=20050607182245;attrib_5=seed;oper_5=%3D%3D;val _5_1=2245;preferred_range_length=&)

milou
07-06-2005, 18:24
Voted 10 for both you tarts!

matty
07-06-2005, 18:48
lol! voting system abuse begins!

ta!

petemc
07-06-2005, 18:49
lol! voting system abuse begins!

ta!

Hehe. Have you noticed that you can see how your shot is doing if you vote for it? 10,10,10,10,10 ;)

matty
07-06-2005, 18:53
lol

i had noticed, its a rubbish system

Biggus
07-06-2005, 23:41
You can also vote more than once for the same piccy :shock:

Adrian
08-06-2005, 07:38
Ahem, don't suppose anyone would care to rate my effort?

www.bbc.co.uk/apps/ifl/arts/apictureofbritain/showrecord?Id=1568

As part of the vote manipulation service I have of course rated everyone elses at 10 :).

matty
08-06-2005, 09:15
voted..

someone didnt like it, as my rating has gone done, i have also mailed the BBC to point out how rubbish and inadequate the voting system is!

petemc
08-06-2005, 09:16
voted..

someone didnt like it, as my rating has gone done, i have also mailed the BBC to point out how rubbish and inadequate the voting system is!

Hehe nice one :) Also voted :)

matty
08-06-2005, 09:24
just gone through the first 5 pages, voted for each picture..some real dross there!!!! Some images in the wrong category too, buildings in Rural anyone??? I think by the time the end of july comes round there will be hundreds of pages!!! should be interesting to see how they voting affects the shortlist

Matt
08-06-2005, 09:29
The Voting system isn't going to pick the winner anyway.
So all of this spam voting isn't going to get you anywhere.

A panel of top photographers is going to decide the winner, so it will take something special to get their attention.
Think about what you want to get across to them, send them a message in your picture, something they will be able to identify as being what Britain stands for or has become.

An old phrase springs to mind,'Think outside of the box'.

Good luck.

matty
08-06-2005, 09:40
the most popular pictures will form the shortlist, i think the rating system determines this...

i will see about getting another shot done for it though, something a little different

Adrian
08-06-2005, 11:08
Just having a look through some more and I sincerely hope that it's Dan Cheung and co that will be judging as they'll be able to spot the large number of manipulated images and shots taken on film cameras.

matty
08-06-2005, 11:52
all i did on mine was a very slight crop, added a border and tweaked the colours, i hope thats allowed!!

matty
08-06-2005, 17:55
got an email back from BBC, they say

We can tell you your rating straight away but the new average rating
does not get updated until sometime later. Although people can rate a
photo several times, only the first vote is counted.


so there you go!

petemc
08-06-2005, 17:57
You rated this photo with a score of 10 , the current average is 10.0

Cool :D Probably only from my rating though :)

matty
08-06-2005, 18:00
no i voted for yours pete, didnt give you a full 10 though, only an 8, lol....

petemc
08-06-2005, 18:52
Meanie :p

matty
08-06-2005, 19:06
Meanie :p

yup

/cackles evily whilst stroking fluffy white cat :twisted:

petemc
08-06-2005, 20:31
http://www.bbc.co.uk/apps/ifl/arts/apictureofbritain/showrecord?Id=5693

http://www.bbc.co.uk/apps/ifl/arts/apictureofbritain/showrecord?Id=2948

2 more up :)

milou
08-06-2005, 21:04
hmmm - maybe I ought to resubmit mine as they haven't shown up in any searches (suspect some contravention of an obscure rule tbh)

matty
08-06-2005, 21:51
lol nice shots pete....might well have northwest sown up if you keep chucking the good ones in....

milou
09-06-2005, 18:34
Yay!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/apps/ifl/arts/apictureofbritain/showrecord?Id=2609

matty
09-06-2005, 19:31
Nice one Mr Baker.....your in the same group as me....

Matt
12-06-2005, 16:07
I've just seen Adrians 'Angel of the North', and Matty's 'Little Red Tractor' on the telly.
BBCi's Picture of Britain can be viewed on your FTA set top box, just hit the text button and then select picture of britain.

matty
12-06-2005, 16:10
I've just seen Adrians 'Angel of the North', and Matty's 'Little Red Tractor' on the telly.
BBCi's Picture of Britain can be viewed on your FTA set top box, just hit the text button and then select picture of britain.

:P One the BBCi was it or just random on the telly program

Matt
12-06-2005, 18:59
its a BBCi program, it keeps looping.
Yours was the first and last image that I viewed, it took about 20mins for it to loop.

matty
12-06-2005, 19:01
its a BBCi program, it keeps looping.
Yours was the first and last image that I viewed, it took about 20mins for it to loop.

Cool! will look through it 8)

matty
12-06-2005, 22:03
Woohoo! Just seen mine! Full screen with my name.......

Adrian
12-06-2005, 22:24
I've just seen Adrians 'Angel of the North', and Matty's 'Little Red Tractor' on the telly.
BBCi's Picture of Britain can be viewed on your FTA set top box, just hit the text button and then select picture of britain.

On the telly?! Must have a butchers. I've had a few pictures used on the local weather but never nationally.

matty
13-06-2005, 09:15
I've just seen Adrians 'Angel of the North', and Matty's 'Little Red Tractor' on the telly.
BBCi's Picture of Britain can be viewed on your FTA set top box, just hit the text button and then select picture of britain.

On the telly?! Must have a butchers. I've had a few pictures used on the local weather but never nationally.

hit the text button if your watching BBC on Sky or that sort of thing, they have a rolling slideshow of 'the best' images

:D

petemc
13-06-2005, 11:17
Congrats guys. I watched it in the hope of seeing mine, but I could only see yours. Congrats :D

matty
13-06-2005, 12:15
Congrats guys. I watched it in the hope of seeing mine, but I could only see yours. Congrats :D

[smilie=t: cheers Pete! :D

Adrian
13-06-2005, 20:24
Just seen mine :)

Steep
14-06-2005, 08:22
I've entered one pic so far, now I'm glued to the telly waiting to see if it comes up :)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/apps/ifl/arts/apictureofbritain/queryengine?templatestyle=single&page=33&pagesize= 1&templatestyle=&config=gallery_random&attrib_1=CO MP_THEME;oper_1=%3D%3D;val_1_1=Urban;attrib_2=COMP _REGION;oper_2=%3D%3D;val_2_1=Scotland;attrib_4=** toff;oper_4=%3D%3D;val_4_1=20050614090000;preferre d_range_length=&

Steve
14-06-2005, 08:58
I recognise that photo steep. Slightly different there though, probably due to the crop rule?

milou
14-06-2005, 10:31
I've been looking at the photos of you tarts on the fogbox! A few from OCUK too. There's one (not from a forum I think) of a massive wave crashing against a lighthouse - a great shot - need a good zoom I'd imagine to avoid being swept away.

Steep
14-06-2005, 11:35
I recognise that photo steep. Slightly different there though, probably due to the crop rule?

Nah, different angle, different day, month, year :)

I took that one last November, in fact it was the one that reminded me that the theatre might make a good architecture subject.

matty
14-06-2005, 12:01
how many of us have got on the BBCi now then?

matty
14-06-2005, 12:21
just had another look through, lots of shots in the categories that have nothing to do with whatever they are in!

IanC_UK
14-06-2005, 23:06
Have seen a few from here, trouble is everybody using their real names so i getting confoozled ! lol

There are some excellent pics/photos/images in there ! ;)

dod
15-06-2005, 21:49
Still haven't got round to this, must extract digit :(

petemc
16-06-2005, 01:07
how many of us have got on the BBCi now then?

I saw my pic (http://www.bbc.co.uk/apps/ifl/arts/apictureofbritain/queryengine?templatestyle=single&page=4&pagesize=1 &templatestyle=&config=&attrib_3=PERSON_REAL_NAME; oper_3=%3D%3D;val_3_1=peter%20carr;attrib_4=CREATE D_TIMESTAMP;oper_4=%3C;val_4_1=20050616020708;sort _1=CREATED_TIMESTAMP;sortsense_1=DESC;preferred_ra nge_length=&) :D

Adrian
16-06-2005, 06:58
how many of us have got on the BBCi now then?

I saw my pic (http://www.bbc.co.uk/apps/ifl/arts/apictureofbritain/queryengine?templatestyle=single&page=4&pagesize=1 &templatestyle=&config=&attrib_3=PERSON_REAL_NAME; oper_3=%3D%3D;val_3_1=peter%20carr;attrib_4=CREATE D_TIMESTAMP;oper_4=%3C;val_4_1=20050616020708;sort _1=CREATED_TIMESTAMP;sortsense_1=DESC;preferred_ra nge_length=&) :D

That was one of the pics I thought had been photoshopped! :)

matty
16-06-2005, 06:59
waaahay!

i think i might enter a few more shots....

petemc
16-06-2005, 10:31
I saw my pic (http://www.bbc.co.uk/apps/ifl/arts/apictureofbritain/queryengine?templatestyle=single&page=4&pagesize=1 &templatestyle=&config=&attrib_3=PERSON_REAL_NAME; oper_3=%3D%3D;val_3_1=peter%20carr;attrib_4=CREATE D_TIMESTAMP;oper_4=%3C;val_4_1=20050616020708;sort _1=CREATED_TIMESTAMP;sortsense_1=DESC;preferred_ra nge_length=&) :D

That was one of the pics I thought had been photoshopped! :)

I enhanced the colours only. It was really like that.

waaahay!

i think i might enter a few more shots....

I did, but theres loads of broken images on the BBC site now. Dunno whats up with that.

Steep
18-06-2005, 21:36
Here's a good one, from Urban Scotland

http://www.bbc.co.uk/apps/ifl/arts/apictureofbritain/queryengine?templatestyle=single_random&page=18&pa gesize=1&templatestyle=random&config=gallery_rando m_2&attrib_1=COMP_THEME;oper_1=%3D%3D;val_1_1=Urba n;attrib_2=COMP_REGION;oper_2=%3D%3D;val_2_1=Scotl and;attrib_4=cutoff;oper_4=%3D%3D;val_4_1=20050618 220000;attrib_5=seed;oper_5=%3D%3D;val_5_1=33;pref erred_range_length=&

Adrian
18-06-2005, 21:40
Here's a good one, from Urban Scotland



That's a good shot IMO, but not entirely sure it relates to Scotland :).