View Full Version : Nikon 35mm f/1.8G AF-S DX?
cherokee1111
13-07-2010, 11:07
was looking at a nifty fifty for my D90 but this then caught my eye as being a better focal lenght and nearer what the human eye sees (or so I read).
Anyone got experience of this lens? is it sharper than the nifty?
Thanks
pinktrainers
13-07-2010, 11:10
I don't have one yet but I've got my heart set on it, best two reviews you may well find useful:
Ken Rockwell (http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/35mm-f18.htm)
DPReview (http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/nikon_35_1p8g_n15/)
intotherainbow
13-07-2010, 11:11
it's better :thumbs:
But well, I prefer the 35f/2 :D
Even at jessops they only £169 seem a very good price if its a good lense for close up people photos
I got one of these two weeks ago and it is must if you want a fast and cheap lens. I love it!
Sectionate
13-07-2010, 11:19
I have it, I love it.
I've got one and have had the 50mm f/1.8. Much prefer the 35mm now due to the extra width.
it's better :thumbs:
But well, I prefer the 35f/2 :D
Same here... it just goes against the grain that the slower lens is the better (and a lot more expensive) one...
cherokee1111
13-07-2010, 11:25
wow, quick replies, thank you.
Anyone fancy posting some recent images with one? go on, show off your sharp lens please.
Think I read (correct me if I'm wrong) that the 35mmf2 is more suited for FF cameras as opposed to the crop 35mm f1.8 which was made for DX?
intotherainbow
13-07-2010, 11:29
wow, quick replies, thank you.
Anyone fancy posting some recent images with one? go on, show off your sharp lens please.
Think I read (correct me if I'm wrong) that the 35mmf2 is more suited for FF cameras as opposed to the crop 35mm f1.8 which was made for DX?
Yes, and no.
The 35f/1.8G can 'only' be used for DX cameras (well u can use for FX but there will be a lot of vignettes).
Also, it has a lot more distortion than the 35f/2D.
The 35f/2D can be used for both DX and FX cameras. (but it won't auto focus on the D40 D60 D3000 D5000.. etc)
How much difference is there? Worth going from the 35mmf/1.8 to the f/2?
Got mine on Thursday, I must say my first few shots we crap. I found it a little difficult focusing at f1.8, kinda got my daughters nose in focus and eyes out of focus :( need a little practise I think!
Other than that, the lens is a lot sharper than the box standard kit lens, It does have some noticeable CA when shoting with really bright sunlight.
I found it a little difficult focusing at f1.8, kinda got my daughters nose in focus and eyes out of focus
silly question but how do you get all in focus then if so close and its only picking up nose
I disagree, I use a 50mm on a crop body and would find a 35mm to wide in most situations. For family shots a 50mm can be too wide, but often its fine is also good for couples/singles. Have to say that an 85mm would be ideal for me for many baby shots.
Also, 50mm or 85mm is more flattering than a 35mm for portraits.
silly question but how do you get all in focus then if so close and its only picking up nose
Need to change the aperture if you are up close and want it all in focus. At f/1.8 this lens give lots of DOF. Just have a play with the aperture until you get what you want in focus.
I disagree, I use a 50mm on a crop body and would find a 35mm to wide in most situations. .
Not if you are in a tight room, i'd rather have it too wide and then crop down than having to stand further and further away. Saying that the 85mm is on my want list :lol:
pinktrainers
13-07-2010, 11:50
Need to change the aperture if you are up close and want it all in focus. At f/1.8 this lens give lots of DOF. Just have a play with the aperture until you get what you want in focus.
Surely you mean hardly any DoF? But yeah, stop down the lens to get the whole face in focus.
I found f2.8 to be a pretty good place to start with the lens.
Surely you mean hardly any DoF? But yeah, stop down the lens to get the whole face in focus.
Yeah sorry:bonk:. Replying and working at the same time :lol:
cherokee1111
13-07-2010, 12:36
How much difference is there? Worth going from the 35mmf/1.8 to the f/2?
bit more research and looks like best staying with 1.8 if on a crop- the following was tested with a D80 http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/equipment/reviews/lenses/651/1/nikon-nikkor-af-d-35mm-f-2.html
Martyn...
13-07-2010, 13:26
bit more research and looks like best staying with 1.8 if on a crop- the following was tested with a D80 http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/equipment/reviews/lenses/651/1/nikon-nikkor-af-d-35mm-f-2.html
The 35mm f2 is the one to go for if you can afford it
The 35mm f2 is the one to go for if you can afford it
There's a minty one for sale right now in 'Classifieds > Nikon' - £170 should get it done...
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=242470
cherokee1111
13-07-2010, 14:06
yes I saw that and am tempted as thats the same as a new 35mm f1.8 but this paragraph from the clickable link is niggling me.......
..............and that it was not designed specifically for digital use, it wouldn’t be surprising if this lens left a little to be desired in the performance stakes. Indeed, that turns out to be the case and the Nikkor really cannot be recommended for use at its maximum aperture if its results in combination with the D80 are anything to go by.
Yeah don't buy it......... I want it now :lol:
cherokee1111
13-07-2010, 14:39
Yeah don't buy it......... I want it now :lol:
ok, it's yours, enjoy your purchase:thumbs:
ok, it's yours, enjoy your purchase:thumbs:
:lol: , feel free mate, I've got a wedding to pay for and I enjoy having a pair of town halls.
Martyn...
13-07-2010, 15:02
..............and that it was not designed specifically for digital use, it wouldn’t be surprising if this lens left a little to be desired in the performance stakes. Indeed, that turns out to be the case and the Nikkor really cannot be recommended for use at its maximum aperture if its results in combination with the D80 are anything to go by.
That is so wrong, it is a lens designed for 35mm film (full frame coverage), the crop sensor will use the centre portion of the image it projects, which is the sweet spot of any lens.
Those of us that have actually used one are all telling you it is a superb lens.
intotherainbow
13-07-2010, 15:45
That is so wrong, it is a lens designed for 35mm film (full frame coverage), the crop sensor will use the centre portion of the image it projects, which is the sweet spot of any lens.
Those of us that have actually used one are all telling you it is a superb lens.
True, and by using that centre portion, there will be almost NO distortion in the images when using with the 35f/2D :lol:
On the other hand, the 35f/1.8G has too much distortion for me to consider :shrug:
Martyn...
13-07-2010, 15:50
True, and by using that centre portion, there will be almost NO distortion in the images when using with the 35f/2D :lol:
On the other hand, the 35f/1.8G has too much distortion for me to consider :shrug:
I wonder who is writing some of these magazine / internet articles.
intotherainbow
13-07-2010, 16:02
did I say sth wrong? :thinking::bang:
Martyn...
13-07-2010, 16:04
did I say sth wrong? :thinking::bang:
No ... I was referring to the linked text the OP had posted ... I agree with you :D
I see someone has finally mentioned the barrel distortion.
I'll go away now. :D
davekiddle
13-07-2010, 16:58
You might also want to consider the Sigma 30mm f/1.4.......... :D
The 35mm 1.8 is brilliant, and as previously mentioned only £169 at Jessops! Fast to focus and very sharp. I love it.
strumstrum
13-07-2010, 19:07
thats pretty much how I feel, had the cheapo 50mm and loved it but went to a D5000 so no AF so sold it and got the 35mm (couldnt afford the 50 1.4) and although I feel its a great lens and excellent VFM I preffered the focal length of the 50mm for most situations and have now gone back to a cheapo 50mm and MF until I a) can afford the 1.4 or b) swap body for motored one.
I disagree, I use a 50mm on a crop body and would find a 35mm to wide in most situations. For family shots a 50mm can be too wide, but often its fine is also good for couples/singles. Have to say that an 85mm would be ideal for me for many baby shots.
Also, 50mm or 85mm is more flattering than a 35mm for portraits.
I own two Nikkor 35mm f/2's - the older AI-S for my film cameras and the newer AF-D, which did develop a sticky (oily) iris after about five years of ownership and has just cost me 30€ to get cleaned.
Both lenses are pinners...
One sits permanently on my old F3 and the other goes on my D3 when I don't feel like carrying all the other kit around...
This has been a bit of an eye opener for , didn't really know about the 35mmf/2 until this thread and have did a bit of reading up on it now. Might have to make the change over at some point in the next few weeks.
I found f2.8 to be a pretty good place to start with the lens.
:plusone:
That's my experience with this lens, too. The CA really is dreadful (worse than my other fast primes) when shooting wide open, if there are bright lights/strong contrast in the image. It's OK if you do a b&w conversion, of course :D.
So, I intend to use my 35mm f/1.8 at f/3.2 or f/4, where it becomes scary sharp (looks as good as my 300mm f/4 :shrug:) in future.
No experience with the other lenses mentioned here, other than the Nikon nifty fifty, which (in my case) is not anywhere near as sharp as the 35mm Nikon when used on a DX sensor (although it's reasonably sharp on the FX sensor :shrug:).
Still, with lenses at this price point (even though they're simple primes), I wouldn't be surprised if there's a bit of variation in sample quality ;).
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1052/4720826084_96461c0758_z.jpg
You can see the issue at the top left of this pic.
cherokee1111
14-07-2010, 14:46
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1052/4720826084_96461c0758_z.jpg
You can see the issue at the top left of this pic.
wow, I see what you mean, and thats not wide open either I presume? surprising and dissapointing for a £170 prime, I'm thinking the f2 might be the better bet now albeit more expensive.
P.S that looks like 1 Devonshire or close by?
The D90 has in-camera CA correction though doesn't it? Can't say I noticed CA or barrel distortion to be a major issue for my copy.
Bhoy_Whunder
14-07-2010, 15:15
Hmm, quite a debate on somethng Im planning on buying. You guys have got me really scratching my head now, its one of the few primes in my budget that will AF on my camera. :bonk:
fracster
14-07-2010, 15:44
the older AI-S
I have that lens and love it............:thumbs:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1052/4720826084_96461c0758_z.jpg
You can see the issue at the top left of this pic.
Yep, that's what I was talking about :thumbs:. In fairness though, most wide aperture lenses have some degree of CA don't they, if you shoot with them wide open and against a white sky with a dark object in the foreground :shrug:!?
Still, this pic is a great demonstration of how sharp it is - impressive, IMHO!
Tried this outside for the first time and tested the dof. It's a great lens, really light but as other people have stated it can have quite a bit of CA when there is a strong light source.
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/gallery/data/3508/DSC_4475.JPG (http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=90861)
Dof using centre focus point only.
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/gallery/data/3508/dof1.jpg (http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=90863)
I think I need some practise focusing though and getting used to the shallow dof. :|
wow, I see what you mean, and thats not wide open either I presume? surprising and dissapointing for a £170 prime, I'm thinking the f2 might be the better bet now albeit more expensive.
P.S that looks like 1 Devonshire or close by?
Pic was shot at f/1.8, and yeah it was One Devonshire.:thumbs:
All pics in this set were taken with the 35mm f/1.8 (not posting for crit just examples)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/42627939@N08/sets/72157624318550914/detail/
The 35f/1.8G can 'only' be used for DX cameras (well u can use for FX but there will be a lot of vignettes).
That's actually not quite true; the amount of vignetting is tiny. I use it all the time on a D700/D3s
Martyn...
15-07-2010, 07:00
I'm thinking the f2 might be the better bet now albeit more expensive.
That is what some of us have been telling you ;)
I own a fair number of lenses, there are a couple I would never part with, the 35mm f2 is one of them.
cherokee1111
15-07-2010, 07:28
That is what some of us have been telling you ;)
I own a fair number of lenses, there are a couple I would never part with, the 35mm f2 is one of them.
Thanks Martyn, a lot of people also advocate the 1.8 ;) hence the question here as experience togs are invaluable. I'm also a believer in you get what you pay for so again the f2 looks better, thanks for yours and everyones input, its helped me and hopefully helped others like myself who are scratching their heads before a big lens purchase.
chris330
15-07-2010, 10:25
I love my 35 1.8... It sits on my d90 most of the time..
This is a full uncropped straight out the camera jpg and a 100% crop
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y103/chris900/robinfull.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y103/chris900/robincrop.jpg
i have one, but need to use it more and learn to use it as i favour my 18-200VR on two folds:
- flexibility
- VR
I think I need some practise focusing though and getting used to the shallow dof. :|
me too
it's hard enough trying to set the camera as once my 11 month sees it, he motors on all four at me so quickly to get a decent shot.
i'm not sure if it's focus or me using the 18-200vr alot, and miss the VR
3 of these on ebay between 80 and 100, i wouldnt pay much more that 100 as new is 169
J
intotherainbow
15-07-2010, 12:59
Surely they won't end up less than £140
http://completed.shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?LH_ItemCondition=2&_nkw=nikon%2035mm%201.8g&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=1&LH_Complete=1&_dmpt=UK_CamerasPhoto_CameraAccessories_CameraLens esFilters_JN&_fln=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m283&_rdc=1
I would pay £130 for a 2nd hand one without the box or warranty etc though :)
HuntMike
24-07-2010, 12:06
The D90 has in-camera CA correction though doesn't it? Can't say I noticed CA or barrel distortion to be a major issue for my copy.
I've been thinking about getting this lens as well, for my D60.
Now I understand that the D60 doesn't correct CA but the D5000 does? I'm thinking about getting a D5000 at some point...
Is CA and barrel distortion an issue if the camera body automatically corrects it?
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