View Full Version : Photography round 6 - Black and white - closing date 11/09
After giving it some thought I have chosen Black and White as the theme for the next round.
This can be taken literally to mean black and white or you can submit a colour picture that says black and white, it’s up to you to use your creative skills but whatever you decide on, everyone should be able to enter this round.
To help some of the newer members here we already have a in depth tutorial to show you the main different ways of converting colour pictures to black and white. It can be viewed here (http://www.thephotographyforums.com/?page=blackwhite)
If anyone has any questions on the techniques shown there please start a new thread and I will do my best to help.
Rules and how to enter can be seen here (http://www.thephotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1845)
I hope this next round gets a good response. Make it a good one people :thumb:
I might just have a pop at that, I've just been doing a massive amount of reading on that very subject!
You've been reading up on photography competitions? Is there a price guide for bribery amounts?
Is the closing date meant to be 11/09? Good choice of subject by the way :thumb:
Is the closing date meant to be 11/09? Good choice of subject by the way :thumb:
Yes sorry my mistake - corrected now :)
Thanks for the response on subject choice, at least that's two people that are happy, three if I count ;)
Im up for a go as well, although i am not very good with B&W ! lol It is a good subject ! :)
Good choice of subject! :thumb:
You've been reading up on photography competitions? Is there a price guide for bribery amounts?
No, b & w.
If you need any help on losing competitions however, I'm your man!
Balck and White is good for me too, just about everyone should be able to do something for this!
I've been reading up a little on black and white over the past week (been reading a couple of 'Basic Photography' books, which are goldmine of learning tools which explain how things like the rule of thirds came about).
Anyway, looking forward to enter this one. I didn't get chance nor shot to enter the last one, so I've now got my thinking cap on.
Yep I'm up for go on this one so will have to do some thinking
I think that's a great subject Steve, and yes everyone should be able to come up with something for this round. Maybe next round I'll get at least two votes,lol :p ahhh it's just for fun, I enjoyed it! Looking forward to round 6.
Jewel.
When will voting close for this as I'll be on holiday till 17th Sept. Just wondering if there any point in entering this round as I might not be able to vote on others.
When will voting close for this as I'll be on holiday till 17th Sept. Just wondering if there any point in entering this round as I might not be able to vote on others.
Voting will close very close to 18:00 on Sunday the 18th so that will give you a full day in which to view the entries and get your votes in.
By the way, CT has very kindly offered to run this round. So all shouts of praise for the hard work can be directed at him aftrewards :)
now, does B&W have to be pure black and white image or do some of my c41 process b&w's qualify?
now, does B&W have to be pure black and white image or do some of my c41 process b&w's qualify?
Read the first post and decide for yourself ;)
Its just for fun and to learn, the members will judge so its them you have to please or win over. What does your gut feelings say?
d'oh!
Should've read the first post properly!
stevegreen
20-08-2005, 13:57
I'm in :)
Just to let you all know - there are 4 shots submitted so far, all with very different interpretations of the theme. I don't know whether I'll be able get anything to enter this round yet. I ought to really seeing as I'll be totting up the votes. :naughty:
Just to let you all know - there are 4 shots submitted so far, all with very different interpretations of the theme. I don't know whether I'll be able get anything to enter this round yet. I ought to really seeing as I'll be totting up the votes. :naughty:
Yes Ct. I meant to PM you about that :lol: .
I can be bought - but I'm not cheap! :whistling
but I'm not cheap! :whistling
I have never taken any notice of THAT rumour CT.
:flipoff:
I might keep out of this round having seen the standard. :coat:
Didn't manage to enter the last one, too busy, I'll get something for this one though :)
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I might keep out of this round having seen the standard. :coat:
Well I am holding back just a little before submitting mine, as yet i'm undecided on two but there are a couple of things happening here in the next couple of days that would fit in with the theme (not trying to give to much away) IF I could get a decent pic from them, there may be more indecision.
CT - I submitted one but I assume it's ok to email/pm etc if I want to change it? Having doubts :/
Thanks
David
stevegreen
26-08-2005, 11:46
:flipoff:
I might keep out of this round having seen the standard. :coat:
:lol: Three of them must be good then :lol:
CT - I submitted one but I assume it's ok to email/pm etc if I want to change it? Having doubts :/
Thanks
David
That's fine Steve - e-mail your new entry and I'll bin your old one.
:lol: Three of them must be good then :lol:
damn beat me to it:naughty:
That's fine Steve - e-mail your new entry and I'll bin your old one.
No its not!!!!!
You only have one submission and once in, it is not allowed to be changed. That has been the case from day one and two people that I know of have had to stick with their original entry after getting what they percieved to be a better shot later in the month.
Thats the gamble you take when you submit early.
Taken from the rules..
Once you have your entry ready (only one per member and once submitted no changes will be allowed), send it via email to competition@thephotographyforums.com and include your forum name. Any entries received that are to big, have names on the photo itself, do not have the members name included with the email, or that are received after the closing date will be rejected.
I will try to get some thing in... never shot on BW I'll try to make some shots... and lets see what happen jeje
;)
No its not!!!!!
You only have one submission and once in, it is not allowed to be changed. .
Ah... duly noted then. :icon_redf
The problem is that everyone can change their submisison on the last day and it up to the person running it to check and adjust all names, file sizes and then re-order them for uploading, if you only get 10 entries it will be bad enough, but imagine 30+
It will also make people consider their work and not submit "placeholders" which is just stupid and pointless.
Just to remind everyone that there are 11 days left to get your entries in for this round. Bags of time to get something submitted. Five entries received so far, but be advised the standard is high! :)
In that case it will give us something to aim for ;)
Exactly one week left to get your entries in folks. I've received 8 entries so far. I expected a mahoosive response given the great theme chosen for this round! :icon_eek:
I wasn't going to enter this round seeing as I'm counting the votes, but I might have to at this rate just to get the numbers up, and leave you guys to fight it out for 2nd and 3rd places. :lol:
fnar fnar.
stevegreen
05-09-2005, 11:10
Please don't enter. That will place me in 9th instead of 8th :(
8th sounds so much better :coat:
Its not the winning that matters its improving from the help and advice you will recieve afterwards through the comments and critique that makes this competition so worthwhile and different to all the others.
Everyone who enters will win ;)
LoL. I just went through my pile of photos and there was a couple suitably themed photos, but unfortunately, badly shot. :P Now I'm trying to dream of something.
Don't forget guys that today is your last day for getting in submissions...have a try no matter what, you have nothing to lose :)
tomorrow is the 11th Steve, have you been driving DeLoreans over 88mph again??
Hehe, its these silly shifts that I am working I lose track of which day is which.
Well that gives everyone an extra day then ;)
Round 6 ends at 8pm this evening and all submitted images should be available for viewing and appraisal from a little after 8pm. There's still time for those last minute entries!
oooh, didn't realise the compo closed at 8pm! Glad I didn't decide to re-edit my photo! Only just managed to sneak in with a late entry at 7:45.
Now why does this remind me of doing my homework on the bus on the way to school in the morning?
Just got mine in! 2 mins to go!
LOL. OK - that's it. Competition is now closed for entries. Give me a few minutes and I'll put the pics up for viewing.
Entries are available for viewing here...
http://www.thephotographyforums.com/gallery/album77
Voting closes in 1 week at 8pm next Sunday. Voting for your own entry results in disqualification (I will be checking :nono:) Any entrant who doesn't vote will also be disqualified. Votes to be submitted to me via PM clearly showing the three pictures chosen and the order in which placed.
I will find it very difficult to choose three this time given the excellent standard of entries. Voting isn't a race - please give these pictures the serious consideration they deserve. :)
wow! 18 shots and all very good!
Thankyou to everyone who entered, this is NOT going to be easy to judge!
Christ there's some stiff competition this month. Marvelous work there by absolutely everyone, I don't envy you judges!
lol great minds think alike! EosD :)
Thank you CT. Now's the tough bit for all of us!
Christ there's some stiff competition this month. Marvelous work there by absolutely everyone, I don't envy you judges!
Steep old buddy, YOU have to pick you best 3 and pm CT with your choice!
Christ there's some stiff competition this month. Marvelous work there by absolutely everyone, I don't envy you judges!
Everyone is a judge Steep. There's no judging panel here, you the members decide. Whether you've entered or not, you're still eligable to vote, in fact we want as many people to vote as possible. :)
Just a quick question about the voting sytem. Is the winner decided on a 'one point per vote' basis? or say does your vote for 1) get 5 points, 2) 3 points etc for example?
or is that a secret?
Sorry if it's been asked before but I was curious as ever.
Lordy - looks tough! Excellent work.
Fair question gandhi. I'll be counting the votes and I'll probably do it on a very simple points system
3 points for a first place vote
2 points for a second place vote
1 point for a third place vote.
This will obviously show up a clear winner and 2nd and 3rd places when the points are totalled. If people are interested in how many votes they actually received rather than total points, then I can show that separately when the results are published.
Steep old buddy, YOU have to pick you best 3 and pm CT with your choice!
Oops! erm, I mean I knew that I was just testing you..ahem!
Oops! erm, I mean I knew that I was just testing you..ahem!
Your too used to 3 people doing it, you forgot that we have a different approach!:whistling
Digital SPG
11-09-2005, 20:56
oh crap, this is going to be hard!!
Pfft. Its easy. Just go for the one thats most black and white.... ;)
cheers for that ct. Was just one of those moments when you 'I wonder how?..........'
I think the standard of entries is very high this time. It'll be very hard to choose 3 out of those! And nice to see so many of them. What would you have done if all 285 members had entered? Now that would have been a logistical headache!
What would you have done if all 285 members had entered? Now that would have been a logistical headache!
Feigned a heart attack and resigned! :lol:
Just a gentle reminder that voting for the current Round 6 ends at 8pm this coming Sunday (18th September). Still plenty of time, but it's particularly important that those who've entered pics don't miss the deadline which means their entry is disqualfied.
It's a little disappointing that so far, those people voting seem to be mainly actual entrants, so whether you've entered the round or not please support the competition by submitting your votes to me via PM. :)
I have been looking at them again this morning. There is some great work there and because they are so different it makes it very hard to pick my best three. :Ponders:
Everyone that have entered has done really well, the standard has really risen for this round :woot:
Everyone that have entered has done really well, the standard has really risen for this round :woot:
I absolutely agree Steve - it's so nice to see such a varied and high standard of work being submitted. :icon_cool
We just have 4 entrants who haven't voted yet!!!
Just 13 hours left to vote :)
or 12.5 if you feel like being picky.
There are only two entrants now who haven't voted and I've sent them both e-mail reminders. They're no doubt still struggling over their choices. :)
We have an unassailable landslide winner, but 2nd and 3rd places are within the grasp of a few entrants - it's VERY close, so those votes really count now!
Was a really tough choice to pick 3 but I managed to. Very good entries.
OK folks - the competition is closed. Give me a few minutes and I'll put the results up then put the entrants names under individual entries. :)
We have one excellent entry disqualified for not voting. :Ponders:
1... milou...............................10 votes
2... McMav.............................0 votes
3... Steve Green......................3 votes
4... Gary Bagshawe................. 0 votes
5... Steve..............................32 votes :first:
6... Digital SPG...................... 16 votes :second:
7... dod............................... 3 votes
8....EosD............................... 0 votes
9....Chris B............................ 0 votes
10. JB Hammond.................... 4 votes
11..CT.................................. 14 votes :third:
12. Adrian.............................. 4 votes
13. Kenco1964........................13 votes (disqualified)
14. Marcel............................. 9 votes
15, petemc............................ 5 votes
16. Steep.............................. 8 votes
17. Gandhi............................. 11 votes
18. Joe T............................... 1 vote
Congratulations to all who entered, the standard was tremendous. :thumb:
Names are now under the entries here...
http://www.thephotographyforums.com/gallery/album77
Yay, I got one vote! :D
Thanks for your hard work CT.
Well done to Steve, and everyone else!
Well done all :)
Great compo. with a corresponding quality of work.
Well done Steve! - I knew that was yours. Congrats to all. Now then, wonder what's next...:)
well done to the top 3, spookily, thats the 3 i voted for!!!!in the right order!!!!!!!!!
excellent round with some top class images, well done to everyone
Great work everyone and a well deserved first place for Steve. My thought on the entries are below. Don't hit me! :)
milou. It reminds me of a B&W film from the 1950s, The day the earth cought fire? Very moody and dramatic with a good sense of depth. It lacks life though, not sure if that's what I mean exactly.
McMav. A very difficult situation, the contrast difference between the sunlit and shadowed areas makes it difficult to bring out the shadow detail without blowing out the highlights, I don't know that I could have done better.
Steve Green. I'm not sure about this one, the newspaper is 'old' and it's black & white but it doesn't inspire me or say particularly "B&W"
Gary Bagshawe. This came close to getting points, a nice attempt at double meaning, black and white photo of a black athlete in a white shirt but as with the waterfall shot I think the extremes of contrast have meant too much shadow detail is lost.
Steve. My 1st place choice, a perfect statement of B&W, clean, simple, very well executed. Do you really have a spotless house or did you spend hours in PS cloning out all the dust motes??
Digital SPG. Once again this shot nearly made my points list. The lighthouse is a great subject and very well captured but the messy wires and foreground spoils it a bit.
dod. I like the way the stalks lead you into the picture and the texture of it too, not enough of interest in it to raise it to points level against some of the other shots here.
EosD. A different working of the hay bale theme, a nice landscape shot but it makes me feel a little queasy with the field sloping left and the horizon sloping right.
ChrisB. I think a tighter shot of the wooden gate and wall would have made a better picture here, as it is there's no real focal point and the background is too busy.
JBHammond. There's a similar section of drystone wall near where I live that I've been unsuccsessfully trying to capture for years, you almost made it with this shot. Less grass and more wall is needed I think. It seems a little over processed too, the slight glow along the top edge of the wall.
CT. This shot is well exposed, it certainly says black and white and fits the theme but it's just not got enough of interest for me as a photograph.
Adrian. I laughed when I first looked at this pic :) Well shot, good subject but it didn't say black and white as loudly as some of the others.
Kenco1964. I'm a sucker for lonley building in landscape shots and this one is very nicely done, my 2nd place choice.
Marcel. Good interpretation of the theme I think but too much going, on my eye doesn't know where to settle if you know what I mean.
petemc. Another fine example of black and white from CyKey, I didn't vote for it only because I knew who had shot it, he having posted other examples of this shot on another forum ;)
gandhi. My third place choice, the eye is led nicely into the image and it has a dark mood about it, I like it.
Joe T. Another very well shot image. The close up of the rose has not worked well though I think it has ended up looking dirty here where in colour it would probably have shone.
Thanks for the critique Steep. :)
petemc. Another fine example of black and white from CyKey, I didn't vote for it only because I knew who had shot it, he having posted other examples of this shot on another forum ;)
hehe doh :D Congrats to all that entered, it was quite tough to decide who to vote for. Only took me a week :D
Here's my PM to CT for my first three choices:
First: entry 17. When I first looked at the gallery thumbnails, this was the shot that instantly stood out for me mainly due to the subject matter. I love the subtle colour tone in this shot, the sense of brooding (which always works well with standing stones) and the depth of field in that the stones can be seen in their context. A great sky too, and overall a superb photograph.
Second: entry 14. A great capture of light in this photo with a good variety of textures suitable for black & white along with a fine composition.
Third: entry 15. Very good contrast for a somewhat unusual subject! The density of the background helps to accentuate the bear's eyes. Good textures too.
Good critique Steep, I must try to find time to do one, but I'm otherwise engaged for the rest of the evening. :beer:
Well done to everyone that entered making this a well supported round. The quality of entries was very high and I am really suprised that I won.
Thanks to everyone who voted for my photograph..the cheques are in the post ;)
Critique to follow...
cheers Steep, i didnt think about the foreground going one way and the hills at the bak going the other....i have made a note though.
Good critique, thanks
I almost forgot, thanks to CT for looking after this round...and doing a sterling job too :thumb:
In black and white the viewer’s attention is highlighted on things like focus, lighting and contrasts as there is no colour to smooth over a picture and hide or mask the tiny flaws. What is apparent as can been seen in the entries to this months competition is a good choice of subject is essential. Something with clean lines or a fair amount of texture while not becoming cluttered or confusing often carries much more impact and makes for a visually pleasing photo. The majority of the entries are technically well planned and processed photos but some really stand out due to their subject matter being much more suitable than others.
Everyone who has entered should be happy with their efforts and I have learned a lot from not just photographing my entry but from also studying everyone else’s during the writing of this critique.
As usual what follows is just my opinions on each shot and what I feel could be changed to make the picture better for me. There is no right or wrong and please don’t take anything personal if you disagree with any of my comments. All the critique below was written before the judging stage had been completed so again I have no idea which pictures belong to which members which I also feel offers you a fairer and more open opinion. :)
So without further ado here is my critique on the pictures.
Picture 1- This is a classic British view that is world famous, it has been captured with the lines from the bridge leading your eyes into the shot and onto the Houses of Parliament. The sky is big in terms of scale and impact. The black and white conversion has been handled well, I would have liked to see a little more detail under the bridge and it appears as though one or two of the highlights are just a tad blown out. Those two details aside overall it’s a strong competent entry which I like evry much.
Picture 2 – The problem with this shot for me is that it does not contain a real three dimensional feel and it leaves me looking at a flat picture. The subject is almost 90 degrees to the camera and totally vertical with nothing to lead the eyes into frame, the contrasts are very stark and the picture has got the highlights in the water blown by being over exposed. On a subject such as flowing water this is often a common fault that is very hard to correct, either you get the highlights exposed correctly and the shadow detail ends up being lost or you get the shadow detail and blown highlights. If you have Photoshop or PSP there are couple of tutorials that show how to combine two shots together to get one correctly exposed image, your other option is filters but for this scene they wouldn’t have helped. It’s a bold attempt at a difficult scene to get to work well in B&W.
Picture 3 – This is a subject that I considered shooting for this round, here it is shot well but I feel the contrast and levels could have been tweaked slightly to add more impact. Also for me I would have had the foreground in focus and the detail fading out towards the back of the frame, as it is presented here the foreground is out of focus and holds no detail to draw the eyes into the shot. As your subject is the paper article I would have tried to source something relevant to the theme to give it that extra twist, something on racists or a court case maybe to emphasise the black and white subject and add that extra twist? ;)
Picture 4 – Black person, white top, black pants..certainly fits the theme :) What you have here is essentially an action portrait and with portraits the aim is to focus the viewer on the subject. In this shot the background is clearly visible and somewhat distracting, especially the white clothing seen on the right. If possible this shot captured with a narrower depth of field to blur the background and remove the distractions would have been a far more powerful image. It’s not a weak image as it is I just feel it could have been improved.
Picture 5 – My entry, this shot is actually a full colour capture with minimum editing. It’s a result of setting up the glass of water on four pieces of black and white card and then adjusting the lighting until I got the contrast and reflections to look ok. It took a lot of experimentation and over 70 shots until I got the shot that I was happy with. I did attempt some cleaned and level adjusted versions but they just ended up looking like a computer created picture rather than the photograph I was aiming for. Looking back at it now I instantly see the line in the middle between the white and black card is not absolutely vertical…there is always room for improvement ;)
Picture 6 – The thing that is most noticeable is the amount of noise visible in the sky to the right of the lighthouse. This could have easily been removed/reduced by running the photo through one of the free noise reduction packages such as Noiseware or Neatimage, currently I find it quite distracting. I also feel that the picture would have benefited from having the verticals strengthened to stop the building on the right looking as though its about to fall over into the picture and finally by cloning out the cables running across the frame to clean up some of the clutter in the lower section. It is good to see that you have not framed the lighthouse in the centre of the picture and the one wispy cloud adds nicely to the balance of the picture.
Picture 7 – I expected some hay bail photos to appear for this round ;) Here the focus is on the hay bail in the upper third of the frame and you have correctly used the lines in the field to lead our eyes into the picture, unfortunately the chosen depth of field is not large enough to have the foreground in focus and that leaves much of the bottom third of the picture with no real content. I think you have framed the subject correctly and it would have been a much more powerful and appealing shot if the depth of field used had been larger.
Picture 8 – This is great shot that abides by the rule of thirds perfectly, you have good foreground interest leading into the middle ground and then finally the hills and the sky in the far distance. The shot is further complimented by the diagonal lines of the fields running in opposite directions across the photo. The whole picture is more grey than black and white though, and I feel this shot could be improved by a slight increase in contrast, a small tweak to the levels and then finally being run through a noise reduction package to clean up the sky. The combination of those steps would have brought out the best in this photo and really brought it to life.
Picture 9 – The basic rules have been followed here, using the path to lead you into the picture, having subject matter with texture but there is not enough contrast between the wall, the ferns behind it and the trees in the background which makes the picture over cluttered and the viewer struggle to see the whole scene. Instead of making the picture look 3 dimensional it appears very flat and busy. I am sure when viewed in colour the scene looks completely different due to the colours separating the sections and thus I would presume, makes it more pleasing. I think the subject rather than the processing is the weakest part of this shot
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Picture 10 – the black and white conversion on this shot is really good, nothing is blown out and you have a good range from blacks through to whites. The subject also lends itself well to black and white with it having lots of different textures. I would have shot the picture from closer to the wall and looking more along its length to lead the viewer eyes through the photo, as it has been shot here it sort of splits the photo almost in the middle leaving us with three very distinct layers of the field, the wall and the sky rather than a scene that flows and includes all those elements.
Picture 11 – For me this shot stood out as being spot on for the theme and technically really well shot. Clearly it’s not a black and white picture as can be seen by the red key stop running across the frame but it does still scream black and white to the viewer. I like the angle this has been photographed from, the lighting is spot on causing no harsh shadows or distractions and the DOF used is also perfect for the photo. This is a very clean and well composed photo that really stands out and gives us all something to aim for in terms of impact. Definitely deserves to be first overall after my own entry ;)
Picture 12 – There is nothing much wrong with this shot but I would have preferred just a little more space to the left of his arm and elbow. The contrast and post production is spot on but I just don’t feel that the statue has enough impact as subject matter to make it stand out here amongst some stiff competition. The subject matter is weaker than the photograph, as a photograph there is not a great deal wrong.
Picture 13 – This is a great subject and a good deal of skill has been used to process the image. Unfortunately for me all the subject matter is over to the right hand side of the frame which has resulted in the left hand side being empty and the photo feeling imbalanced. There is nice use of the rule of thirds though, with the horizon falling on one third and the barn/building on another. If only that white cloud was in the left of the sky or that small clump of trees where peeping over the horizon on the left. ;) Unfortunately Mother Nature doesn’t plan for us photographers.
Picture 14 – Again another shot that has been well post processed to black and white. As a shot it is a little cluttered with no real focal point and would benefited from being taken at a lower angle so that we connect with the subject rather than feeling as though we are just looking down on a bunch of objects. Many of the subjects in this picture would have been ideal for a black and white picture in their own right but when photographed together they tend to distract rather than connect.
Picture 15 – Here is an original approach to the humble teddy, shot as portrait we are instantly drawn to the detail, the black and white emphasizes the texture of the fur while the totally black background removes any chance of distractions. It’s a stark and contrasting view giving us a totally different take on the humble teddy bear. My only minor complaint is that the picture as shown here is a little soft overall and would benefit from a small amount of sharpening.
Picture 16 – Another portrait only this time of a statue, again I feel the crop/framing is a little tight and the picture could have benefited from having more free space all around. The lighting is a little harsh causing stark shadows and highlights right on the limit, and the focus seems to be on the eye nearest to the camera but that is almost not visible. The far eye has distracting light through the lower half of it which is very noticeable due to it being on the bright side of his face. As I said with the critique of my entry I took over 70 photographs with different lighting until I was happy with the results, I think that the lighting here more than anything has let your shot down slightly.
Picture 17 – This shot I would expect to do well in the competition, technically once again it is well composed and processed but on my monitor it does have a slight green cast which is only visible when it is viewed along side the other entries. The use of the vignetting or “lomo” effect can often work well but for me it has been overused recently and I am little bored of it. Unfortunately this has worked against you with my votes for that reason alone which may seem a little unfair but rest assured it is totally personal on my part only. Like I say I will be very surprised if this shot doesn’t do well overall.
Picture 18 – generally the idea has potential, unfortunately the photograph is let down slightly by the black spot in the top right-hand quarter of frame (probably a small insect/bug?) and also the background has some foliage showing in the lower left, this is acceptable if more were visible around the subject but in this case I feel the levels should have been adjusted or it should have been cloned to totally remove the distraction. The main focal point seems to be the petal in the front but my eyes are drawn to the highlight near the edge. There seems no real focal point? Flowers are very difficult to photograph well in colour, when shot in black and white the attention to detail has to be almost obsessive and that is on top of a great shot to start with. This a very bold attempt that falls short for me, sorry.
Muchus grassy arses for the critiques :)
Knew that shot was the clear winner though. a well planned interpretation of the theme that oozed planning, thought and preparation.
Thanks for you comments Steve. My shot was taken hand held with the 50mm 1.4 wide open under normal room lighting. It still took a fair bit of post processing to get the deepest black and the cleanest white I could, which was the object of the excercise. I left the red key stop strip to enhance the black and white by comparison - that was my idea anyway.
I'm sure Steve Green wont mind me saying that he had a great idea with his newspaper shot, but fell into the classic trap of relying on the camera meter which will let you down every time with that much white and black in the shot, and just try to mix everything down to 17% grey which is basically what meters do. With some post processing and a good black and white instead of two shades of grey I'm sure his entry would have done much better.
well done Steve, and thanks for the critiques. :)
Congrats all and thanks for the critiques. I shall do my best to improve for the next round.
I am very sorry to all for not getting my vote in for this round. As well as my wifes birthday, our wedding anniversary, we also had a very good friends engagement party to attend. All of which kept me very busy and unfortunately it wasn't until after 9pm Sunday that I remembered about voting, by which time it was too late.
Sorry once again.
Ken.
no worries dude, it meant i came 4th instead of fifth!!!!!
I will post some critiques as soon as I get my network stable long enough to look at stuff.
Bloody wireless is a pain in the neck!
JBHammond
19-09-2005, 14:09
Thanks for the critque....
In fact I did shot some shots closer to and looking along the wall, but due lighting I did not feel that these where quite right.
Any one intrested, I think the shots in my gallery space.
Regards
I am very sorry to all for not getting my vote in for this round. As well as my wifes birthday, our wedding anniversary, we also had a very good friends engagement party to attend. All of which kept me very busy and unfortunately it wasn't until after 9pm Sunday that I remembered about voting, by which time it was too late.
Sorry once again.
Ken.
I'm glad it wasn't anything serious Ken. Knowing how keen you are, I felt sure some calamity had befallen you. :)
I'm glad it wasn't anything serious Ken. Knowing how keen you are, I felt sure some calamity had befallen you. :)Thanks CT, no calamities, everything just seemed to get wiped from my mind, what with the wife wanting to shop for outfits and presents etc. etc. etc. Just to busy to think.
thanks for comments Steve, i hate lanscapes as you well know, so getting positive comments on the image before the B&W treatment is encouraging, i need to work on the B&W now too though, lol
stevegreen
20-09-2005, 16:32
Thanks for the comments, critique and the 3 votes :banana:
My photo obviously didn't say what I wanted it to, Black and White as in newspaper, it's all down in Black and White............no? :Ponders:
So, it's not only the interpretation that needs improving, but the technique too :lol:
Thanks Steve :) I hadn't really noticed it was soft till you pointed it out. Bah :p
Thanks for the comments Steve.... as this was my first picture in a comp, and the fact that I don't have pro kit, I didn't expect it to get anywhere but here's (http://www.thephotographyforums.com/gallery/album74/OgdenFence_Colour) the colour one at a slightly different angle(if anybody is interested).
Chris
Just to let you know that the new theme for the next round will be "Food and drink"
I will start a new thread when I get a minute.
Just to let you know that the new theme for the next round will be "Food and drink"
I will start a new thread when I get a minute.
Excellent. Just the kick I needed to do this shot in my head :D
****! I need to start thinking. :lol:
Bloody ell CT i would have thought **** wouldnt come into food or drink !!!! ;)
Bloody ell CT i would have thought **** wouldnt come into food or drink !!!! ;)
You don't eat curries then? :p
Just to let you know that the new theme for the next round will be "Food and drink"
I will start a new thread when I get a minute.
A subject very close to my heart :D
And my hips..and my stomach...and my thighs....
uggh, still life :( Or I could post the pic of our dog chasing a rabbit the other day :banana:
It doesn't have to be still life, you could do a photo of some fishermen landing their catch ;)
Again this is another wide open subject for all to intrepret as they see fit :)
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