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j.palmer
22-02-2008, 17:26
Well some people reckon that astro shot will show any flaws in glass and this ed 80 refractor is a dream for astrophotography with direct attachment :thumbs:.

I did'nt see any colour fringing or false colour the stars where pin point and only look blue due to colour change of the nebula.

m42 orion nebula 40d +600mm eg5 mount, 94sec .

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/madas/ed80orioncopy.jpg

1200mm moon full frame shot useing the birding tripod.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/madas/ed80mooncopy.jpg

ive added this beacuse it was my first pair a galaxies imaged. m81 m82

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/madas/m81m82-1.jpg

cant wait to get my observatory finshed to longer shots.

many thanks :wave:

Cobra
22-02-2008, 17:29
Great moon shot, but the m42 orion nebula is "outta this world" :thumbs:
(Sorry :coat:)

james_death
22-02-2008, 17:30
You swine there are great first is ...out of this world... no realy i love it

LCPete
22-02-2008, 17:40
I agree both are great but the orion nebula is brilliant, didn't realise you could do that with a 40D
Pete

laser_jock99
22-02-2008, 17:44
Stars are a true test of lens quality- looks the ED lens elements are doing thier stuff! Very good pics I'm almost tempted to buy one myself.

George
22-02-2008, 17:51
Tell us a bit about your equipment,jp!

I am contemplating a scope, and would appreciate a heads up.

George

gibbo
22-02-2008, 17:54
wow :woot:

Dan Leach
22-02-2008, 18:08
Brilliant shots!. :thumbs:
I love astro stuff, but my scope doesnt track the sky which makes it hard, hope to get a meade lx gps soon though :)

mole2k
22-02-2008, 18:09
The first one is absolutely fantastic, the 2nd is a great moon shot also.

paulc
22-02-2008, 18:20
fascinating..and brilliant

Kevin H
22-02-2008, 19:27
The orion Nebula is superb, as good as anything I've seen in a book or mag, excellent moon shot to, please post some more of your astro shots.
Kevin

ShootinJack
22-02-2008, 19:50
Absolutely superb first shot. Great stuff, do you have any more shots to share?
Would love to see more.

j.palmer
22-02-2008, 23:28
well we seem to have some astro fans on here which is nice to see.
thanks for you comments and there will be plenty more if i can get mu observatory finished tomorrow :D

Tell us a bit about your equipment,jp!

I am contemplating a scope, and would appreciate a heads up.

George

well my new wildlife lens is a skywatcher ed 80 600 f7.t pro. (ed apochromatic is the only way to go for £300)

you can get it as an ota (optical tube aseberly) which in term mean just tube, dove tale and telescope rings.

you will also need a eos m42 adapter and a prime focus tube.

i had made my mind up on the 600mm because ive already got the sigma bigma 50-500mm.

with some of the birds that i need to get for my portfolio
are the birds that won't come or can't get close to for a desent crop with the bigma@500mm so 600mm or above is the only answer.


so depending on what your subject matter is there are plenty of cheap ed refractors out there.

as mentioned skywatcher, orion, celestron , moonfish, astro-tech. the easy bit is to deside on lenght and then do a google search.

hope the above made sense :thinking: any problem or any other info /images needed give me a message :thumbs:

jason

spencer
22-02-2008, 23:34
The Orion nebula is just stunning!!:clap: more please!!:thumbs:

Spence

chewyuk
22-02-2008, 23:34
Take a bow - That first is a corker ! Top Quality.

Hammerhead64
23-02-2008, 02:08
:thumbs:I dream of getting shots like these. :help:I have been trying to get a shot of the night sky showing the stars for ages using my 75-300mm but it just won't happen any tips?

Team Sony

Paul

Cuddy
23-02-2008, 06:51
This is superb, any chance you can take a pic of your set up?

George
23-02-2008, 08:30
Thanks, Jason for the info . Google here we come!!

kevshore
23-02-2008, 08:40
Wow, these are amazing. Well done and thank you for posting.Something I would be very interested in trying. Do they do one that can see through clouds. Thats all we seem to get here. lol.

elvis
23-02-2008, 09:12
fantastic photos the king is well impressed

DavePotter
23-02-2008, 11:55
Love m42...

did you drift align....

and did you have autoguiding.....

because if not then i am truly amazed.....

I have seen an awful lot of pics of this and some of the setups are quite spectacular..... and the results are nowhere near this good...

colour is spot on.... no hint of skyglow and no noise in the pic....

j.palmer
23-02-2008, 13:25
astronomy and astrophotoghy is a passion that ive allways dreamed of getting the night sky on film or digital.

so to here such kind remarks realy does make it all worth the time i thanks you all. :clap:

:thumbs:I dream of getting shots like these. :help:I have been trying to get a shot of the night sky showing the stars for ages using my 75-300mm but it just won't happen any tips?

Team Sony

Paul

first of you can set up your camera on any tripod set the camera to m and shutter speed needs to be 20/30sec remote will stop vibration. manual focus on a bright star. now iso 400-800 depending on how long the sh/sp and that it .

if you do not have a mount that will track the sky your image will have the stars a long streacks of light this the rotation of the earth. hope this helps.:thinking:

This is superb, any chance you can take a pic of your set up?

yes i will shot of my birding set up and astro.

Thanks, Jason for the info . Google here we come!!

good luck

Wow, these are amazing. Well done and thank you for posting.Something I would be very interested in trying. Do they do one that can see through clouds. Thats all we seem to get here. lol.

no :lol:

Love m42...

did you drift align....

and did you have autoguiding.....

because if not then i am truly amazed.....

I have seen an awful lot of pics of this and some of the setups are quite spectacular..... and the results are nowhere near this good...

colour is spot on.... no hint of skyglow and no noise in the pic....

my eq5 mount is set up to north and the polar scope is set so the little circle is on the north star.

with this set up i can do images of about 6mins and thats with now guide scope ive always let the mount track and had good resaults.

the image on 94 sec is still very dim so a lot of ph6 work and neat images to bring out the best.

when i learn to stack images that when the detail will start to show.

many thanks every one

Richard T
23-02-2008, 18:47
wowser!

no 1 just blew me socks off:clap::clap:

kevshore
23-02-2008, 18:52
wowser!

no 1 just blew me socks off:clap::clap:



Bet thats a weird thing to witness.....:lol::lol::lol:

laser_jock99
23-02-2008, 19:03
Seeing your Orion shots prompted me to dig out and scan in these two old slides from 20 years ago.

No. 1
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/laser_jock99/ASTRONOMICAL/Orion_001.jpg
M42 Orion Nebula 300mm f5.6 lens 15 minute exposure Scotch Chrome 400 film.

No. 2
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/laser_jock99/ASTRONOMICAL/Orion_002.jpg
Orions Sword & Belt 200mm f4 lens 20 mins exposure Scotch Chrome 400 film

Both pictures were taken on my home made clock drive camera mount. No where near as good your shots but great to see how technology has moved on.

Brains
23-02-2008, 19:36
Inspirational stuff

^^Gord^^
23-02-2008, 23:32
Great photos!

Dan Leach
23-02-2008, 23:42
Great stuff

j.palmer
25-02-2008, 17:05
Sorry that I havent replied, Im trying to finish my observatory. Thanks every for the kind comments

wowser!

no 1 just blew me socks off:clap::clap:

:lol::lol::lol: hope they did'nt hit any one ;)

Seeing your Orion shots prompted me to dig out and scan in these two old slides from 20 years ago.

No. 1
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/laser_jock99/ASTRONOMICAL/Orion_001.jpg
M42 Orion Nebula 300mm f5.6 lens 15 minute exposure Scotch Chrome 400 film.

No. 2
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/laser_jock99/ASTRONOMICAL/Orion_002.jpg
Orions Sword & Belt 200mm f4 lens 20 mins exposure Scotch Chrome 400 film

Both pictures were taken on my home made clock drive camera mount. No where near as good your shots but great to see how technology has moved on.

Well considering a home made clock drive they are ok and it amazing that after 20mins thing did'nt burn out.
just goes to show thst iso 400 isnt the same on digital.

cheers
jason

laser_jock99
25-02-2008, 22:01
Amazing that after 20mins thing did'nt burn out.
just goes to show thst iso 400 isnt the same on digital.

cheers
jason

Digital doesn't suffer from Reciprocity Failure like film did

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocity_(photography)

Film speed gradually gets slower (less light sensitive) with time where as CCD sensitivity remains constant. One of the main reasons why astrophotographers were the first bunch to go digital!

purpleclouds
25-02-2008, 22:41
I absolutely love that first image!!

Splog
26-02-2008, 21:55
Hi all

Excellent images

Here's a widefield of Orion and it's nebula that I took a couple of weeks ago, Had awful light pollution and the moon trying to wash out the sky

Equipment used: Canon EOS30D, Canon 180mm F3.5, AstroTrac

http://195.177.193.138/gallery/data/500/orion-neb.jpg

Steve

clawz
26-02-2008, 22:44
In the imortal words of an American, OMG, OMG, O...M.....G!!! I am SOOOO jealous of these pics! I want to get shots like this too! :'(
You mention all this equipment you use but it just goes right over my head! :thinking: So what are these tools you guys use and how much would it cost to get a basic setup done? (mounts etc, (on the subject of them do you need a specail tripod?)

Helium_Junkie
26-02-2008, 22:47
I am really confused... are these taken with a DSLR attached to a telescope? When you say 600mm I am picturing a 600mm lens, and not imagining it can get that kind of detail! :o

whitewash
26-02-2008, 22:51
Well some people reckon that astro shot will show any flaws in glass and this ed 80 refractor is a dream for astrophotography with direct attachment :thumbs:.

I did'nt see any colour fringing or false colour the stars where pin point and only look blue due to colour change of the nebula.

m42 orion nebula 40d +600mm eg5 mount, 94sec .

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/madas/ed80orioncopy.jpg

1200mm moon full frame shot useing the birding tripod.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/madas/ed80mooncopy.jpg

ive added this beacuse it was my first pair a galaxies imaged. m81 m82

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/madas/m81m82-1.jpg

cant wait to get my observatory finshed to longer shots.

many thanks :wave:

WOW!

wez130
26-02-2008, 22:58
awesome stuff, no.1 and 3 anyway, i'd also like to know what helium junkie is asking, 600 lens or scope or something, basically, could i go out with my 30D on my tripod and lens at 400mm and get anything close to this or is it more specialised?

How much are we looking at for the kit?

GAELICSTORM7
26-02-2008, 23:04
Nice shots, I'm amazed you can get 6 minutes out of an EQ5 with 600mm of focal length with so little trailing ?, is the M42 shot just one exposure ?, if so how long was it ?, and what ISO did you use ?, you must have some REALLY nice dark skies too.

Alan

GAELICSTORM7
26-02-2008, 23:09
Once your using any sort of long exposure of the stars, at whatever focal length you need a driven mount to track the stars the effect of trailing gets worse the longer the focal length as it shows the movement of the earth in a more pronounced manner.

Alan

j.palmer
27-02-2008, 19:39
Thank you very much for the comments and I'll make sense of all the tech talk in a new post,

but very much appreciated.

cheers
jason

Ladybird
27-02-2008, 23:54
Amazing, cool, fabulous! :thumbs: really looking forward to seeing some more!

clawz
28-02-2008, 19:39
Thank you very much for the comments and I'll make sense of all the tech talk in a new post,

but very much appreciated.

cheers
jason

You better post a link to the new thread then! I dont wanna loose this new idea I want to try... although I can see it getting rather expensive! :lol::thinking:

Helium_Junkie
29-02-2008, 00:48
I'd really love to know if I can see that nebula through my ETX90 :)

whiteflyer
29-02-2008, 04:47
No.3 = nice
No.2 = WOW
No.1 = ****ING WOW

That's a fantastic excellent brilliant great superb shot of the Orion Nebula.

j.palmer
01-03-2008, 20:06
Thanks guys appreciated comments.

I'd really love to know if I can see that nebula through my ETX90 :)

Yes as I owned the etx and you will get some fantastic views with low power eye piece. due south at about 7.00pm.



You better post a link to the new thread then! I dont wanna loose this new idea I want to try... although I can see it getting rather expensive! :lol::thinking:

I'll be doing a new post as a guide, and some pics of my set up.

But just to get you going, celestron do a goto 100 /660mm refractor with mount for less that £400.00 and you dont need any thing else apart from a m42 t adapter.:eek::thinking::thinking:

No.3 = nice
No.2 = WOW
No.1 = ****ING WOW

That's a fantastic excellent brilliant great superb shot of the Orion Nebula.

thanks you

jason:thumbs:

oldgit
01-03-2008, 20:11
very good .. keep em comming