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Just ordered:
Manfrotto 322RC2 HEAVY DUTY GRIP BALL HEAD (see here (http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/cache/offonce/pid/2319) £90
Manfrotto 055MF4 055 MAG FIBER TRIPOD 4 SCT (see here (http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/cache/offonce/pid/2279?livid=68&lsf=68&child=2) ) £220
Manfrotto MBAG 80P - £45 (for a padded bag - woah!)
Looking forward ot getting it! It had better be good, for this kind of money! My current tripod is a "Boots" brand one from the late 70s or early 80s.
Venomator
22-01-2006, 18:56
Nice stuff - I've been toying with the Manfrotto range Joe T - what in particular made you go for this set up ?
Hope it lives up to expectations !
I wanted an 055 PRO model as its the best they make - it has all the functions I could want, and its tall enough for me. I went for the CF to save a bit of weight, and the four section so that it folds up small enough.
I was temepted by getting a set of Gitzo legs (of similar size, weight etc) from HK for aroudn the same price, but I really couldnt see how they would be better. Plus they have those annoying twist locks.
The head looks like it should make changing position a breeze. Ive read lots fo good things about it. With a heavy lens on it, I'd like to be able to alter position with just one had. You can even use it left handed, whilst leaving your right hand free for the shutter - this means you can even get panning shots on it. :)
Venomator
22-01-2006, 19:18
You didn't consider the Neotec 458B ?
http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/cache/offonce/pid/2280?livid=68|69&idx=72
Although I can see it is only three section and not quite so compact when closed up ! :Ponders:
minimeeze
22-01-2006, 19:22
:shock: £310 for a tripod...wow
You didn't consider the Neotec 458B ? http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/cache/offonce/pid/2280?livid=68|69&idx
Although I can see it is only three section and not quite so compact when closed up ! :Ponders:
Yeah, its 64cm when closed. Its also 2.4kg instead of 2kg.
I havent any experience of the Neotec system, so I dont knwo how easy I would find it.
Its also another £30, and I thought I'd spent enough!
:)
:shock: £310 for a tripod...wow
I only want to buy once, if you know what I mean! :)
digitalfailure
22-01-2006, 19:25
Not jealous at all :whistle2:
The ball grip is supposed to be a great bit of kit.
I have to slum it with a Manfrotto 190 alloy tripod and a 390rc2 pan and tilt head. :sadcry:
Only kidding about the slumming it.....it was a christmas present and so far it's been great and far excedes the level of support offered by my previous Velbon lightweight shakeapod :laugh1:
The Build Quality of the Manfrotto kit is 1st class.
Venomator
22-01-2006, 19:26
Yeah, its 64cm when closed. Its also 2.4kg instead of 2kg.
I havent any experience of the Neotec system, so I dont knwo how easy I would find it.
Its also another £30, and I thought I'd spent enough!
:)
All reasons enough then ! It is light and compact I would go for so your choice is probably getting there. :thumb:
Not sure about the head though - think I might need to play with that one first. :Ponders:
Let us know how you go with it when it arrives ... :smilenod:
Be interested in how you find the tripod Joe........
I have the 055PRO (not MF) and find it wee bit heavy to cart around.......so I am looking for something lighter if possible.
Be interested in how you find the tripod Joe........
I have the 055PRO (not MF) and find it wee bit heavy to cart around.......so I am looking for something lighter if possible.
Will do. The CF version is 2kg as opposed to 2.4 so its light but not really by much.
Will do. The CF version is 2kg as opposed to 2.4 so its light but not really by much.
Yes .4 not much difference I know but yours is more compact yes?
Yes .4 not much difference I know but yours is more compact yes?
Yeah I went for the 4 section which is £10 more than the 3 section. Its around 10cm smaller when folded. Both are 2kg.
I think the CF ones extend a bit less than the others; but 165cm plus head plus camera is enough for me I reckon. :)
Yes think I would have rather got a more compact one:doh:
Like you said.........you only "want to buy once";)
Good choices there Joe - both with the legs and the head.:thumb:
Did you consider the Feisol that I have ?
Link to frame page so no menus (http://www.feisol.com/english/nct4.htm)
I've got used to it now but at first i did not like the twist lock action to extend the legs. Having had some practice now I can do about as quick as the flip locks on my old tripod.
Very strong and light + about half price of the Manfrotto. (I bought a Manfrotto head for it though and that weighs as much as the tripod!)
Mark Grant
22-01-2006, 20:45
The 322RC2 head is fantastic once you get used to it :)
They are delivered set up the wrong way round I think,
I swapped mine round (with the allen key provided) so the grip is operated with left hand, leaving right hand for camera controls, much easier to use :thumb:
Mark.
mfwild13
22-01-2006, 21:01
Just ordered:
Manfrotto 322RC2 HEAVY DUTY GRIP BALL HEAD, Manfrotto 055MF4 055 MAG FIBER TRIPOD 4 SCT, Manfrotto MBAG 80P
Good choices. I have the 322RC2 and the 055PRO and am pretty happy with them although the 322 does take a bit of getting used to. I am considering the proper remote release for it but not sure if I will make enough use of it yet.
Like Mark Grant, I swapped mine over to the left hand when I first got it but have now reverted back to the right hand as I find it easier when using the long lens.
You might want to get yourself another plate (200 PL-14) so you can leave one on that Sigma of yours and one on the body to save messing about and also minimise wear/damage from regularly swapping over (about £10 IIRC). I found that I had to take a bit of care making sure I got a really good fit on the tripod collar for the 400mm F5.6 so now leave a plate permanently attached.
Mark
Sounds good. I'm lucky...I can't stand tripods, so it saves some money:suspect1: :D
Bloomin' carbon Gitzos we have issued are £500 each - then you buy a centre-column and head for them!!!
I use the 322RC2 head on the Neotec legs for the EOS kit and it's all pretty good. Not what I would call really solid support as the head does creep a bit with the 70-200 f4 on but for the size and weight it's excellent.
It does depend on what you're used to I guess and my main tripod weighs more than my EOS kit does and has more in common with an engine hoist than the Neotec jobbie.
The first thing I did with the head was to change to left handed grip as well and I found that works a treat. :)
Bloomin' carbon Gitzos we have issued are £500 each - then you buy a centre-column and head for them!!!
That's because they're overpriced in this country (like most photo equipment!).
I got mine in HK and paid under £200!
Just drove most of the way to the City Link depot to pick it up (there was no-one at home today or yesterday to take the delivery). I had to turn back as the traffic was too heavy (bad accident at roundabout of M40 and A404 I think) and the depot was about to close. Hour and half wasted. :(
Venomator
25-01-2006, 19:31
Desperate m8 !
Hope you have better luck with it soon ? Cannot wait to hear your immediate impressions and then how you go with it !
Sickner:(
Pick it tomorrow though yes?
Yes, I will try to pick it up tonight. :)
Venomator
26-01-2006, 19:52
Yes, I will try to pick it up tonight. :)
Well ... ???
Well I finally got it! First impressions are really good. This is quite a bit of kit!
I will post a more comprehensive review, but right now here's some gratuitous pics:
http://www.diesel-power.org.uk/CIMG0102a.jpg
http://www.diesel-power.org.uk/CIMG0104a.jpg
http://www.diesel-power.org.uk/CIMG0105a.jpg
http://www.diesel-power.org.uk/CIMG0106a.jpg
http://www.diesel-power.org.uk/CIMG0107a.jpg
Mark Grant
26-01-2006, 20:02
Looks nice :)
Have you tried the handle on the other side, so your shutter finger is free to take pictures when following something ?
Mark.
Venomator
26-01-2006, 20:02
You didn't go overboard with the initial pics then !?! :innocent:
Pleased you got it at last Joe T - looks a mean bit 'o kit too ! :clap: :thumb:
And that monster lens ... ? What is it - and have you left it out in the sun a bit ? Looks a bit grey and faded ! :laugh1:
Looks nice :)
Have you tried the handle on the other side, so your shutter finger is free to take pictures when following something ?
Mark.
I can use it on the otherside ok as it is, but you can take it apart so that it will fit properly there. I havent tried that yet, as with the big lens I need a left hand to support the lens itslef when moving it. I suppose I could use my right hand for that. Hmmm
You didn't go overboard with the initial pics then !?! :innocent:
Pleased you got it at last Joe T - looks a mean bit 'o kit too ! :clap: :thumb:
And that monster lens ... ? What is it - and have you left it out in the sun a bit ? Looks a bit grey and faded ! :laugh1:
Cheers! :)
Its grey because thats the finish on Sigma lenses. Its a 120-300 2.8 by the way. Great lens, but I havent had the chance to use it yet much (except for one day at Mallory Park). I bought it for motorsport and also a bit of wlidlife. :)
Looks good Joe.............Looking forward to your review
Warspite
26-01-2006, 22:07
Looks very professional - congrats, hope it serves you well;)
looks good Joe, i still have to do a review on the Manfrotto copy i have, t550, and velbon sherpa pan head, not got round to it yet though...
Joe how does it feel weight wise.......comfortable to walk around with?
Joe how does it feel weight wise.......comfortable to walk around with?
Will tell you after tomorrow. Im taking it to London for some dusk/night shots. :)
Will tell you after tomorrow. Im taking it to London for some dusk/night shots. :)
Nice one.......you should have a good day the weather forecast is good with no:rain:
Joe can I ask did you consider the 190MF4? and if so what made you choose the 055?
Joe can I ask did you consider the 190MF4? and if so what made you choose the 055?
I did, but its not tall enough imo.
Sean_Mcr
07-02-2006, 00:02
That looks like a very nice piece of kit.
I've got a Gitzo 2228 cf tripod with a Manfrotto 488RC4 ball head.
The tripod is beautifully built, out classes the head i have to say.
i got my manfrotto 055 pro in the post today:D , still aint unpacked it yet:suspect1: , lol, it has the 322RC2 head,
off to have a play.............:thumb:
MyPix:whistle2:
While you're playing, take some pics! :D
While you're playing, take some pics! :D
LOL - Just said the self same thing to MyPix....... come on lets have a look :clap:
Just got the 322RC2 head myself - does anyone else find it odd that the head is off-centre (ie not over the actual ball).
This would have serious implications for panoramas..??
Just got the 322RC2 head myself - does anyone else find it odd that the head is off-centre (ie not over the actual ball).
This would have serious implications for panoramas..??
OK, is it only mine that is not centred??
mfwild13
25-03-2006, 12:20
Just got the 322RC2 head myself - does anyone else find it odd that the head is off-centre (ie not over the actual ball).
This would have serious implications for panoramas..??
Can't say I ever really noticed the offset although I almost always use it attached to a lens and not the body. You could get the adapter and use it like a 222 which would put the ball in the centre.
Its not a head I would ever try and use for panaormas though. Would need separate horizontal and vertical controls for that.
I could do panoramas with my Gitzo ballhead, just took some effort to get level. This is, in effect, just a ballhead with a handle, so I don't see why it couldn't be used for panoramas.
I want to use the head in the horizontal position to increase stability (I am using at minimum a D200 with battery grip a 70-200mm VR lens and an SB-600 flash on it).
It is offset from centre whether mounted to hte body or a lens, surely? as the tripod mount on most bodies is in line with lens..
mfwild13
25-03-2006, 13:15
I could do panoramas with my Gitzo ballhead, just took some effort to get level. This is, in effect, just a ballhead with a handle, so I don't see why it couldn't be used for panoramas. I didnt say you couldnt, but I wouldnt choose to do so. You obviously believe it is going to be an issue due to the offset which was presumably designed in to allow horizontal or vertical operation (allowing them replace the 222 maybe).
I want to use the head in the horizontal position to increase stability (I am using at minimum a D200 with battery grip a 70-200mm VR lens and an SB-600 flash on it). I have seen 600mm lenses used on the 222 but as you say, I chose the 322 because of the stability of the horizontal mode.
It is offset from centre whether mounted to hte body or a lens, surely? as the tripod mount on most bodies is in line with lens.Agreed, just speculating why I hadnt seen it as an issue. Probably more to do with the type of photo's I take.
All fair points..
I don't see it being a huge issue, just surprised me. All other ballheads I have seen/usedmounted the camera directly over the centre..
It doesn't seem to affect the stability of the tripod/head setup and I have managed decent panoramas hand-held, so it shouldn't pose too much of a problem..
Just wanted to make sure I hadn't put it back together wrong when I changed it to left-handed operation ;)
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