Tilt and shift it baby!

[kmlc]

Hello everyone

Has anyone got a tilt and shift lens?
Can anyone tell me about it? Are they difficult to use? And what are the primary reasons for owning one?
I am interested in them, but i am not sure on what exactly they do and how you use one??!?! :lol:

Thankyou!!
xx

[StewartR]

Hi kmlc,

We have a TS-E 24mm at www.LensesForHire.co.uk (http://www.lensesforhire.co.uk/canon-ts-e-24mm-f35-l-33-p.asp). There's a brief write-up on the page about the uses of the lens, and some links to more in-depth resources. Hope it's helpful.

[Canon Bob]

Hi,

I've got three tilt/shift lenses TS-E24L, TS-E45 and TS-E90. I have to say that they are challenging to use although very rewarding once they've been mastered....I haven't got there yet but think I'm making some progress.

Something more qualified than I can provide is available here http://hame.ca/tiltshift.htm worthwhile reading but I've gone through it many times and realised that practice is everything with these lenses.....or I'm just one of life's thicko's.

Anything else, feel free to ask.

Bob

[CT]

If you tilt a normal lens upwards to encompass a tall building or the interior of large buildings, churches, cathedrals, etc, the upright lines of the building slope inwards quite dramatically. The effect is known as 'converging verticals'. It can be used to artistic effect in some images, but for those who need a more accurate image of the building, there are tilt and shift lenses, which can be adjusted to correct the effect and straighten these lines. The lenses are commonly used by architects and those who specialise in photographing buildings and interiors.

They can also be used to correct converging horizontal lines caused by the angle of the camera to those lines.

They're sometimes also known as architectural lenses. I seem to remember Canon Bob has one.

[CT]

Three Bob?? :D

[George]

15p in new money, CT:lol:

[CT]

Giving your age away there George! :lol:

[Just Dave]

Hi

Tilt shift can also be achieved in photoshop, to a certain extent, I recently did a short video tutorial on the tilt shift technique

It can be found Click Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6_WnZFW9QE)

Hope you find it useful

Dave

[dazzajl]

Apart from being able to correct verticals, you can tilt the plane of focus.

This has the effect of making it seem like you can have limitless depth of field or, the other way, rizzla thin but with an aperture for optimum sharpness.

[Canon Bob]

Three Bob?? :D

Well, they don't make a zoom version :D:D:D



15p in new money, CT:lol:

It got worse when I got married.....the missus is called Penny

[George]

Damn, forgot about the age thingy, but anyway, you saw me at Focus and I just hope you didn't take a picture!!!! on names the receptionist at Lee Filters is called "Dawn" and she married a guy called Frank Day.......!
On a serious note, I have the 24mm T/S, and, although I don't use it a lot, its going to Portugal with me next week for some shots of a building, for my money that's where it comes in to it's own. Must ask you if you have a 35-350, Bob, seem to remember you did from an old post.

[Canon Bob]

Hi

Tilt shift can also be achieved in photoshop, to a certain extent, I recently did a short video tutorial on the tilt shift technique

It can be found Click Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6_WnZFW9QE)

Hope you find it useful

Dave

PS can offer some correction for converging lines provided that there is not too much else to worry about infront of or behind the structure. Panorama Tools has also been muted as a good thing to use but the price is prohibitive for all but the keenest (and wealthiest) amateurs.
As with any shot, the key is to capture it correctly and worry about titivating it later.
On a more artistic note.....it's possible to all sorts of strange effects using these lenses, many of which I've achieved whilst trying not to :(
Product shots, architecture and modelling shots are main beneficiaries of a well manipulated TS-E....not that I'd know yet.

Bob

PS...Yes George...I have the 35-350L

[George]

Thanks, Bob, I'll ask you some questions on the forum at a later date....don't want to incur the mods wrath by hi jacking this......!!

[Joe T]

My grandad (RIP) was called Frank Tanner, and known to most people as Bob... :p

[CT]

Two tanners in a bob though! :thinking:

[Joe T]

I never understood it either!

[30psi]

Does anyone have some normal shots of a building followed by one with a tilt and shift lens?

Thx

[Canon Bob]

Does anyone have some normal shots of a building followed by one with a tilt and shift lens?

Thx

I'll pop out in the morning with a TS-E and shoot corrected and uncorrected and post the results.

Bob

[kmlc]

Thanks everyone!!!
You really have helped. I dont know whether it is worth me buying one, as i dont think i would use it much. But, i am gonna give it a go achieving the effect in cs. :)

If you do have some photo examples you can show me too, that would be fabulous :D

katy

[King of Groove]

When I was at school we had a teacher called Mr Shilling! So when decimilsation came in we used to call him Mr 5 new P. Got his back up!!!

[Matthew]

Does anyone have some normal shots of a building followed by one with a tilt and shift lens?

Thx

I just did a quick search in flickr, got a few with and without. Click (http://flickr.com/search/?ss=1&w=all&q=tilt+shift+before+after&m=text).

[CT]

Actually my explanation above was a bit simplistic - they have all sorts of uses in correcting perspective, not just converging vertical lines, and they can also be used to manipulate the DOF as Daz pointed out.

This is a shot taken from high up looking downwards, where a tilt/shift lens has been used to restore the correct perspective.

http://wvs.topleftpixel.com/photos/2006/09/old_city-hall_sheraton_TS_02.jpg

[kmlc]

It looks like a model village!!!!

[robbiemc]

Does anyone have some normal shots of a building followed by one with a tilt and shift lens?

Thx

Ken Rockwell has an article about this:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/movements.htm

He shows before and after shots of buildings - it's an excellent read.