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p3ryg
15-04-2008, 21:42
I have a Nikon 70-300m VR lens and I have a unbranded 2xTC that doesn't seem to work with it, would the Nikon 2xTC be any good for the VR lens??

would like to get that little bit closer to a subject (ie birds etc) without scaring them to much.

Is the TC a cheaper option rather than trying to find a 400-500m lens??

Thanks
fracster
16-04-2008, 12:17
Bit of stuff here (http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=55484) on Nikon TCs.....:thumbs:
p3ryg
16-04-2008, 19:30
Cool thanks for that, so from reading that I am guessing my zoom VR lens should still have autofocus.
Wail
16-04-2008, 21:25
Actually, sorry to say but I don't think the 70-300 VR is compatible with any of the Nikon teleconverters TC! Your safest bet is to check the manual that came with your lens, it should state what, if any, TCs your lens would work with.
Wail
16-04-2008, 21:28
Another thing to keep in mind, while Nikon TCs may work with some lenses, it may reder some of the lenses features redundant ... by this I mean, Nikon TCs may work with some lenses but you lose auto focus, or VR, or both!

Whichever way you go, do make VERY sure that your lens is compatible with the TC you plan to use, since you may cause serious damage to your lens, TC and camera. There are instances where the lens's rear-element may get pushed back so far that it gets into contact with the front element of the TC causing a lot of damage. This grinding is not good for any of the camera, TC or lens.
EdinburghGary
16-04-2008, 21:32
70 to 300 vr works with sigma 1.4 tc if its any help...
mattyh
16-04-2008, 21:33
The Nikon TC 20E II retains AF and VR on my 70-200, but you need to check whether it will on others :)

Ring Nikon, they'll tell you :)
Wail
16-04-2008, 21:37
EdinburghGary,

Thanks for the heads up on this .... I would like to know, if you don't mind, for how long have you been using this set-up, and have you ever encountered any "funny" noise while using this particular TC with this specific lens?

Also, when you say "works", do you mean it fits, VR working, and autofocus too? Or do you lose one, or more, of these functions?
Wail
16-04-2008, 21:39
mattyh,

How would you rate the quality of the pictures with the TC 20E II? Have you tried this TC with any other lens?
EdinburghGary
16-04-2008, 21:40
EdinburghGary,

Thanks for the heads up on this .... I would like to know, if you don't mind, for how long have you been using this set-up, and have you ever encountered any "funny" noise while using this particular TC with this specific lens?

Also, when you say "works", do you mean it fits, VR working, and autofocus too? Or do you lose one, or more, of these functions?


As far as I can tell it all works with no side effects. I will do some testing tomorrow for you!!
mattyh
16-04-2008, 21:44
mattyh,

How would you rate the quality of the pictures with the TC 20E II? Have you tried this TC with any other lens?

Seems fine to me so far.. haven't really had a chance to do a proper test yet, but it should get a workout over the weekend when I'm down in longleat :)

No I haven't tried it with any other lenses, not sure I will tbh, as I've got the 70-200, 24-70 10-20 and a nifty 50, so none of the others really need a TC :)
Wail
16-04-2008, 21:50
As far as I can tell it all works with no side effects. I will do some testing tomorrow for you!!

Thanks for going through the trouble .. mind you, please be sure not to put your gear under any undue stress for this issue.
Wail
16-04-2008, 21:54
Seems fine to me so far.. haven't really had a chance to do a proper test yet, but it should get a workout over the weekend when I'm down in longleat :)

No I haven't tried it with any other lenses, not sure I will tbh, as I've got the 70-200, 24-70 10-20 and a nifty 50, so none of the others really need a TC :)

Longleat is great .... different from Chester zoo, but a whole lot of things to shoot there. Your TC will come in VERY handy over there. Would love to see some pictures with / without the 20 TC, as I am contemplating buying either this specific one, or the 1.7 version ... would much rather go with the 20 E II if image quality is acceptable.

About the 24-70, if that's the Nikon, then I would be careful about putting a TC on to it. If I am not mistaken, it is not compatible with any TC .. and that's one expensive lens.
mattyh
16-04-2008, 21:55
No it's the sigma version... and it's broken at the moment since I was a tool and dropped it... mind you got my jessops vouchers today :D

I'll try and do a test tomorrow with a comparison test.
Wail
16-04-2008, 22:04
No it's the sigma version... and it's broken at the moment since I was a tool and dropped it... mind you got my jessops vouchers today :D

I'll try and do a test tomorrow with a comparison test.

Thank you for taking the time ... I look forward to seeing the results :)
mattyh
17-04-2008, 18:30
:wave: Here's a quick couple for comparison... default settings in ACR, haven't done anything special to them:

With 2xTC @ 400mm f5.6

Full image
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s306/navaramatty/peakcockfull.jpg

100% crop
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s306/navaramatty/peacock100percent.jpg

Without 2xTC 200mm @ F2.8

Full Image
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s306/navaramatty/goosefull.jpg

100% Crop
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s306/navaramatty/goose100percent.jpg

Hope that helps :)
p3ryg
17-04-2008, 18:42
Thanks again everyone for the advice :)
Wail
17-04-2008, 19:18
mattyh,

WoW ... great shots. Thanks for taking the effort and doing this ... Taking into account what I've read about the 2x converters and how they cause quality to degrade, I have to say that you sure managed to get some really great shots with that set-up.

Again, thank you for posting these.
mattyh
17-04-2008, 19:24
I can see a little bit of degradation, but not enough to stop me using one, even if I have to open the lens up a stop, it'll still be worth it. I can still shoot at stupidly low speeds because of the VR :love:
Wail
17-04-2008, 20:29
This is the Sigma TC coupled with the Nikon 70-200VR, am I correct?

Have you tried this TC with any of the other lenses you have? I know that the Nikon TCs don't work with the Nikon 24-70 ... do you know if the Sigma does work with this lens? Please don't go testing this just for me asking this question, I don't want you to push the limits on this, especially with such a wonderful - and expensive - lens like that .. but if you have input on this I would appreciate it.
mattyh
17-04-2008, 20:36
No thats the Nikon 2x TC... haven't tried on the rest yet... haven't really got the need to tbh