View Full Version : BBC Breakfast just had an item on street photography.
Just caught the end but they had some chap from Amateur Photographer and the chap from Blacpool who deleted his shots when harassed by a PCSO.
Also mentioned Austin Mitchell.
Venomator
18-04-2008, 07:44
That's a bit of a bummer ... :suspect: ... and BBC iPlayer does not replay Breakfast shows ... :razz:
Thanx for letting us know what we've missed ... :lol:
:p
yourapocalypse
18-04-2008, 08:04
Anyone catch all of it? It would be nice to hear the tone of the piece.
This is all good, really. The more the issue is in the news the less likely officials are to make mistakes.
The tone was that Police and PCSO's are generally ignorant of the rights and wrongs of people taking photographs in public places.
A PCSO told the tog that it was illegal to take pictures without the publics permission.
Then telling about the campain led by the MP to get guidelines issued to the police telling then what they can and can't do.
photostar_1
18-04-2008, 08:21
I was a bit disappointed with the chap from "Amateur Photographer" as I didn't feel he was strong enough about advising togs what do do when in a similar position to the Blackpool chap.
Agree - he was a bit wet.
a1ex2001
18-04-2008, 09:54
Simple answer for the PCSO is if you are sure I am committing a crime please arrest me but remember I have told you that I'm not breaking the law and will happily take legal action against you for wrongful arrest.
The PCSO system is so heavily flawed it isn't even funny anymore, they would be better of firing the lot and spending the money on a couple of extra bobbies.
Slim3001
18-04-2008, 09:56
what is PCOS ?
what is PCOS ?
PCSO is Police Community Support Officer.
A person in uniform with virtually no powers and apparently little common sense or understanding of the law.
Oh and they get paid £16-£20k for walking around the streets.
yourapocalypse
18-04-2008, 10:16
PCSOs are the law enforcement equivalent of Hyacinth Bucket.
Slim3001
18-04-2008, 10:21
Oh the kid's trying to be Big boys i see them all the time around my way. When i say kids most of the PCSO around mine are like 18 to about 25 it funny you see them a lot of the time with a full time copr and you can see the cop dont like them its funny
Plugus Maximus
18-04-2008, 10:44
See this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7351252.stm
Oh and they get paid £16-£20k for walking around the streets.
How much???
How much???
Yes 16-20k per annum
acidliam
18-04-2008, 11:12
missed this which was a shame, i always have BBC Breakfast on in the background normally too. On a similar vein:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VfQrDK9YHas
Apologies for the annoying camera man although watch to the end it does get quite amusing watching him push his luck!
Just proves even full uniform doesn't often have a clue about the laws they enforce.
Pretty Crap Silly Outfit
Probably Couldnt Spot Offenders
Plenty Cheaper than a Serious Officer
The list goes on....
PCSO is Police Community Support Officer.
A person in uniform with virtually no powers and apparently little common sense or understanding of the law.
Oh and they get paid £16-£20k for walking around the streets.
lol perfectly described!
purpleclouds
18-04-2008, 11:31
PCSOs are the law enforcement equivalent of Hyacinth Bucket.
Haha :D brightened my morning up!
Cracking stuff, couldn't stop laughing. :lol:
Jimmy_Lemon
18-04-2008, 13:49
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VfQrDK9YHas
Apologies for the annoying camera man although watch to the end it does get quite amusing watching him push his luck!
Just proves even full uniform doesn't often have a clue about the laws they enforce.
haha - he was pushing it a bit, but loved the line "If you pop back I will print out the laws for you....unless you can get them at the police station?"
Chappers
18-04-2008, 14:39
PCSO's do not have the power of arrest
yourapocalypse
18-04-2008, 14:52
I don't think the Police 'don't have a clue', it's damned near impossible to know by heart every single piece of legislation they may need to enforce. That's why lawyers exist.
Incredible really when they try to use the old terrorism chestnut to stop innocent photographers enjoying there hobby, yet there quite happy to let real terrorists walk the streets of London, as they did in the case of Abu Hamza and his cronies who they allowed to preach there hatred for the west for years without doing anything, God only knows how much that cost the taxpayer over the years with police having to stand outside finsbury mosque every Friday keeping there eyes on them while they where allowed to spout their crap, it beggars belief, this country surely must be the laughing stock of the world :cuckoo:
Sorry i don't mean to get political but this s**t really does wind me up like a spring.
badgerbaiter
18-04-2008, 16:45
I've kept quiet up until now on the subject as i normally try and avoid the politics ;)
but i'm in a pretty good position to tell you my experiences on this.
when i'm not shooting motorsport, my weekday job is taking photos of shops. I shoot about 250 a day in towns inside the M25 and to the West of London.
I do come across CSOs quite a bit and this is how it goes:
They stop me and ask what i'm doing, i politely tell them. We have a polite chat and a bit of a laugh, sometimes they take my description and ask for my ID. After that I carry on with what I'm doing.
Happens about once every 2 weeks.
To be honest I'm quite happy to chat to them and I'm quit happy they have their eyes open.
The PCSO system is so heavily flawed it isn't even funny anymore, they would be better of firing the lot and spending the money on a couple of extra bobbies.
It gets better, they've just employed 300 anti terrorist officers, if you think someone is behaving suspiciously you call the police and they send out a specially trained officer to poke you in the shoulder ere watcha doin then
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