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Lense just looks wrong and it riles me every time I see it.
<sorry>
Fortunatley Websters, Cambridge, merriam-webster and Encarta online dictionaries don't recognise it.
R8JimBob88
02-05-2008, 12:50
I have just ordered a new lense..... :D
:lol: Bugs me too!
Whose the onese that spellse it like that ? :D:D:D
:lol: lol. I voiced this niggle a while ago. Provoked quite a response ;)
LINKY (http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=32254)
:)
DiddyDave
02-05-2008, 12:56
We've had 'spelling' threads before hereabouts & on other forums, and the consensus seems to be that it doesn't matter
Actually, it does annoy me too
Odd then that the andrewc spells 'Fortunatley' incorrectly
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
You have to be whiter than white to complain of others' spellings mate!
And when you are, the Grammar-Police will get you instead for such as starting a sentence with 'And'... :nono::nono::nono:
DD
I see you spotted my deliberate mistake. ;)
A quick typo is slightly different to those people who repeatedly use the term lense - maybe three or four times in the same message.
DiddyDave
02-05-2008, 13:12
I see you spotted my deliberate mistake. ;)
A quick typo is slightly different to those people who repeatedly use the term lense - maybe three or four times in the same message.
True - but it was funny anyway
My favourite gripes though are the wrong form of words used, as in...
It was there's - and - Your wrong - and - I borrowed him my camera
And these are very common on chat forums & MSN it seems. Is it lazy? The ongoing development of our language? Or just a downward spiral into 'Who cares'?
:shrug::shrug::shrug:
DD
While we're on the subject, it's bought not bRought!
A common one up here in Norfolk is "that learnt him" :)
I realise any language evolves, but I would hope it evolves to a higher form of the language. Maybe it has reached the peak? It started with grunting, and as far as I can see, is heading back that way.
don't start me off...
" I went down to Jessops and brought myself a new lens"
aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh hh
wickwhistle
02-05-2008, 13:24
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Brilliant! Love it! Excellent!! I always correct people on their spelling - I get all OCD about it :lol: It's like people with bad teeth or dirty shoes - I can't help but stare and get all sweaty under the collar!!! :lol:
BenMottram
02-05-2008, 13:32
my sig from elsewhere...
Whilst you're crawling along to the Nürburgring in your Saxo where you hope to race, wearing out the ozone layer, they're flying there in their Learjet, proceeding to down too many glasses of champagne from its galley and commenting "Look down there, it's a skip on wheels!!"
Covers most things I think!
B.
DiddyDave
02-05-2008, 13:40
Not the dreaded ' anywhere near an S please!
God but that one gets annoying !!!
:lol:
Had a client recently called Mr & Mrs Wells sent to me for a photo, the referrer's letter said...
Please can you take a photograph of Mr & Mrs Well's
WTF ???
Oh no - text-speak too
aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhh
DD
What's with Merkins and their lens aperAtures?
NorthernNikon
02-05-2008, 13:48
A quick typo is slightly different to those people who repeatedly use the term lense - maybe three or four times in the same message.
Absolutely. Typos are forgivable. Poor spelling (e.g. writing loose when they mean lose) or even worse, "text" (mis)spelling (I've seen "no" used a lot recently instead of "know") is unforgivable.
I've found this trend increasingly on some of the model sites. If I see that either someone can't be arsed to check a spelling or is too thick to realise they've made a mistake then how can I trust them to get from A to B for a shoot? Being dyslexic isn’t an excuse – how much effort is it to write a post in Word and then spell check before cutting and pasting?
Conclusion, if you want to be taken seriously, learn to spell and check your work.
Here is one to watch out for, people often use Wether, Whether and Weather interchangeably.
Read this sentence and then read definitions below...
"I'm not sure if I'll go out tomorrow, it depends on the wether!"
weather noun the atmospheric conditions in any area at any time, with regard to sun, cloud, temperature, wind and rain, etc. adj, especially naut on the side exposed to the wind. verb (weathered, weathering) 1 tr & intr to expose or be exposed to the effects of wind, Sun and rain, etc; to alter or be altered in colour, texture and shape, etc through such exposure. 2 to come safely through (a storm or difficult situation). 3 naut to get to the windward side of (a headland, etc). 4 archit to set or slope (a roof or surface, etc) to keep the rain out. weathered adj. keep a weather eye open to keep alert for developments. make heavy weather of something to make its progress unnecessarily slow and difficult. under the weather colloq not in good health; slightly unwell.
ETYMOLOGY: Anglo-Saxon weder.
whether conj 1 used to introduce an indirect question • asked whether it was raining. 2 used to introduce an indirect question involving alternative possibilities • was uncertain whether he liked her or not. 3 (also whether or no or not) used to state the certainty of something, whichever of two circumstances applies • promised to marry her, whether or not his parents agreed • the rules, whether fair or unfair, are not our concern.
ETYMOLOGY: Anglo-Saxon hwæther.
wether noun a castrated ram.
ETYMOLOGY: Anglo-Saxon.
:lol:
Matt Sayle
02-05-2008, 14:23
what is the plural of lens? Is it lenses?
what is the plural of lens? Is it lenses?
yeses;)
Dark Star
02-05-2008, 14:49
I've read and re-read Tony's post and its just dawned on me - who gives a stuff!
Communication isn't about how it's spelt or what grammar is used it's about the getting the meaning across!
Lesson learned, cap off!
fraggle101
02-05-2008, 15:40
This is just a bashing thread and mods should close it now!!
you should ALL be ashamed!!
Typos are fine.. Bad spelling is... what was that ??????????????? lets meet up on a meet and you can tell me what you think of bad spelling!!!!!
I struggle with it... always have...
Now pack it in, it does'nt make you any better that anyone else, but you are sounding like an elitist bunch of... well, use your superior imagination...
MG TF 135
02-05-2008, 15:58
It always amuses me the way we lose patience with foreigners not grasping the english language. When really most of the population does not have a clue either. I don't pretend to be perfect but there are certain things that really get to me. Working in techinal support i see some fantastic notes on faults.
fraggle101
02-05-2008, 16:07
why should it 'get to you'??
Just get on with it Mr perfect!! theres enough crap going on to occupy your HUGE brain!!!
Be happy to be Amused by it... its FREE after all...
Folks, I'm sorry, but I've seen these threads cause nothing but trouble on a lot of boards, and I don't really see what we're going to achieve with this. If people have gone through the education system and not got to grips with spelling, we're not going to change anything here are we, and it isn't our job to tackle the problem.
I'm sure we have lots of valued contributers who struggle with their spelling, and posts like this will only make them reluctant to post.
Spelling mistakes are forgivable. Laziness in typing is a whole new ball game IMO.
It does highlight a growing problem with our society today though. More and more people do struggle with their spelling for one reason or another.
To be honest, some spelling mistakes do annoy me. I can't help that. I don't think less of the person, but certain ones do nark me a little. Like theyre their and there, or of/have (should of) is a personal bugbear. I don't think I'm perfect, but I do think *some* people should make more of an effort to learn their own native language.
I'm not talking about those who naturally struggle with spelling. I'm talking about the ones who don't bother learning or at least trying to learn.
There's nothing wrong with being annoyed at other peoples lack of effort, just like there's nothing wrong with having a valid excuse or reason for not having a perfect vocabulary.
The thing is we all need to learn to play nicely together, that's what being in a society is all about ;)
fraggle101
02-05-2008, 17:00
Thats all well and good.. but this thread was starting to become a bashing and a **** take of people that cant spell!! i also understand theres a difference in being lazy and having trouble but how can you tell the difference!! you cant! so these lovely people are just taking the ****!! thinking they are sooo Superior to those that cant spell so well..
My spelling isnt the greatest.. and to be honest i have to think quite hard about a lot of words i write!! if fact i oftenhave to re-arrange the whole structure of a sentance because of a word i cant spell!! Its a REAL pain!! But everyone LOVES to have a laugh at our expense!! its not on!!
Come and take the **** out of me to my face.. and we'll see whose the highest on the food chain!!!
Im a reasonably intelligent person.. i can and HAVE had to use my little piece of grey matter to solve problems of a life or death matter on hundreds of occasions!! i have planned and executed things that would make you defficate yourself!! things that have given my nightmares over the last 15 years!! THICK people dont get to that position! I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SPELLING, But im no better than you and im no worse than you... but you think you're better than us!!
A bugbear eh!!! GET A LIFE!!! and grow up!!
DiddyDave
02-05-2008, 17:06
I kinda don't mind anymore on forums/MSN - but when written to for business purposes and they get it totally wrong - it annoys the Hell out of me
I also get quite a few CV's coming my way, and although none of them currently get anywhere - I must admit to only replying, and offering help/advice, to the ones well written
If we're annoyed by spellings/grammar on TP though, I think we're worrying too much
Get a life
Go shoot something !!!
DD
DiddyDave
02-05-2008, 17:10
Thats all well and good.. but this thread was starting to become a bashing and a **** take of people that cant spell!! i also understand theres a difference in being lazy and having trouble but how can you tell the difference!! you cant! so these lovely people are just taking the ****!! thinking they are sooo Superior to those that cant spell so well..
My spelling isnt the greatest.. and to be honest i have to think quite hard about a lot of words i write!! if fact i oftenhave to re-arrange the whole structure of a sentance because of a word i cant spell!! Its a REAL pain!! But everyone LOVES to have a laugh at our expense!! its not on!!
Come and take the **** out of me to my face.. and we'll see whose the highest on the food chain!!!
Im a reasonably intelligent person.. i can and HAVE had to use my little piece of grey matter to solve problems of a life or death matter on hundreds of occasions!! i have planned and executed things that would make you defficate yourself!! things that have given my nightmares over the last 15 years!! THICK people dont get to that position! I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SPELLING, But im no better than you and im no worse than you... but you think you're better than us!!
A bugbear eh!!! GET A LIFE!!! and grow up!!
Frag - you remind me with this post of a great mate of mine - salt of the Earth chap - can't spell/write for tuppence
Fab bloke, great person and great tog too - perhaps this thread is ***** after all
Thanks for that - let's get 'real' as they say
DD
Dark Star
02-05-2008, 17:16
See above!
fraggle101
02-05-2008, 17:19
Thanks for that Dave, You have actually pointed out one way to spot the difference between someone that has a problem and someone that does'nt care..
Due to an Injury recieved a few years ago iv been undergoing surgery.. unfortunatly its left me worse that before!! anyway, im now unable to do my job and have to look for another job.. This has made me take stock of things in my life and think very seriously about what i have to offer an employer.. My spelling is a BIG problem at the moment!! its the one thing that can stop me from doing the jobs i should now be looking for.. So its a BIG thing for me right now, i think im a little OVER sensitive about the issue and i think i should appologise for ranting..
Sorry...
Dont take me saying Sorry as a weakness though!!! :nono:
DiddyDave
02-05-2008, 18:17
Thanks for that Dave, You have actually pointed out one way to spot the difference between someone that has a problem and someone that does'nt care..
Due to an Injury recieved a few years ago iv been undergoing surgery.. unfortunatly its left me worse that before!! anyway, im now unable to do my job and have to look for another job.. This has made me take stock of things in my life and think very seriously about what i have to offer an employer.. My spelling is a BIG problem at the moment!! its the one thing that can stop me from doing the jobs i should now be looking for.. So its a BIG thing for me right now, i think im a little OVER sensitive about the issue and i think i should appologise for ranting..
Sorry...
Dont take me saying Sorry as a weakness though!!! :nono:
As a potential employer we need something to start the elimination process with, but while spelling/grammar was a good indicator in my previous career - you're right in that it has sod-all to do with the creative side of what photography is all about
A short add-on letter explaining this (as your comment above) and I'd ignore it as a potential for a 'dismiss-list' as I know people with such problems. Had I not known my mate though, it's easy - too easy??? - to be dismissive though of ability judged by such as spellings or grammar alone
Photographing people - as I do with kids or weddings - is about people skills and empathy - it doesn't matter if you can't spell 'empathy' so long as you have it
Thanks for reminding me of what's important Frag
DD
fraggle, your situation is a perfect example of why people should be less judgmental, and you're right, maybe we should all remember that the spelling doesnt maketh the man.
Nevertheless, however strongly you feel about it, getting so worked up about it so as to resort to threats of violence, really doesn't show you in a good light. It's good to see the other side of the coin to this discussion, but let's at least keep it calm :) No one is insulting you personally.
I hope my "Weather, Wether, Whether" post hasnt caused any offence, it certainly wasnt meant to, just highlighting a potentially humorous mispelling. Come on, admit it, the translation of "I'll go out tomorrow depending on the sheep with no balls!" has got to raise a giggle :D
Unfortunately employers do use spelling and grammar to weed people out, a mate of mine had trouble with it, now he's a senior design engineer for a very important company (cant mention names). Some of the emails I get from him I can only just decipher! But if this company had judged him on his spelling they would have lost out on one of their best engineers!
Fraggle, I have letters after my name after getting a degree in engineering, I'm a Manager of a software engineering firm, and I have to admit to also changing complete sentences due to not being able to find the right word!
There's really no excuse for bad spelling anywhere on the internet. I like to think I'm good at spelling but I still have problems with some less commonly used words, when I do I look them up, what could be easier? If you're not sure of a word, type it into Google, it's a great spell checker, if it thinks you've mispelled a word it asks you, did you mean xxx? and that's usually the right one.
I'm also a terrible typist so I read over what I'm going to post a couple of times to try and catch errors. I care enough to want to make sure that what I say in writing is clear and can be understood. DiddyDave it might not matter that a person can't spell empathy when they're taking someone's photograph, but it is important on a forum where they need to write it down.
/edit see I made a mistake!
fraggle101
02-05-2008, 19:00
When you have to check one or two words per sentance it can be a pain.. also, what if you didnt know you are spelling it wrong!! That to me at least IS and excuse for bad spelling!! i DO try and check my spelling, and it HAS improved, but for me to HAVE to spell check EVERY word im not sure about because YOU think i should is stupid and you know where you can put it!!!
You still dont get it!! taking the **** out of people because they have a problem with spelling is out of order!!
if there were disabled people here you wouldnt take the **** in front of em!! Or would you.. maybe there are a few on here that really ARE the superior twits they appere to be..
Btw i have qualifications in Engineering too.. not a degree.. but not a thicko...
Am I the only person here who thinks the best thing for this thread is if we were to just let it drop away?
Deep breath, deep breath.......................
One of my friends is very badly dyslexic, but she has a first class degree. That was done as an adult student after she was written off as being thick in school. She became terribly introverted by her experiences and writes about them most eloquently now.
I'm fortunate that my spelling is not too bad but I still have a little green button on my toolbar that allows me to spell check posts. I find it really useful.
The message from me is simple, a poor understanding of the written language does not make anyone thick.
A little understanding goes a long, long way .:)
You still dont get it!! taking the **** out of people because they have a problem with spelling is out of order!!
if there were disabled people here you wouldnt take the **** in front of em!! Or would you.. maybe there are a few on here that really ARE the superior twits they appere to be..
Btw i have qualifications in Engineering too.. not a degree.. but not a thicko...
Nowhere in this thread is anyone taking the **** out of anyone. What people are doing is expressing an opinion, something they should be allowed to do without being abused or threatened.
fraggle101
02-05-2008, 19:27
You must be reading a different thread to me then!! or maybe you're just so blind to the discrimination that maybe it's you we should be taking the **** out of.. have an opinion by all means, but if that opinion is offencive or degrading to someone that just CANT be perfect for you then maybe it should be kept to yourself.. or you can get all your mates with perfect english together on a 'spelling is easy' forum and sod off!!
We arnt all perfect.. although im trying to be but im in your shaddow here in the south..
fraggle101
02-05-2008, 19:32
I have just ordered a new lense.....
Bugs me too!
Whose the onese that spellse it like that ?
don't start me off...
" I went down to Jessops and brought myself a new lens"
aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh hh
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Brilliant! Love it! Excellent!! I always correct people on their spelling - I get all OCD about it :lol: It's like people with bad teeth or dirty shoes - I can't help but stare and get all sweaty under the collar!!! :lol:
What's with Merkins and their lens aperAtures?
Not taking the **** eh!! come on... :bang:
fraggle101
02-05-2008, 19:35
Nowhere in this thread is anyone taking the **** out of anyone. What people are doing is expressing an opinion, something they should be allowed to do without being abused or threatened.
I think that people with strong accents should seen and not heard... Just an opinion! :shrug:
Thats just to make a point.. as i am a tolerent bloke.. if someone has a difficulty then i try and help em.. not riddicule them!!
No one is taking the **** out of you they're expressing an opinion. It's nothing against you personally, and no one is certainly saying that all people that have trouble spelling are thick.
You must be reading a different thread to me then!!
I see a difference betwen taking the **** and poking fun, you obviously don't. We'll have to agree to differ on that one.
I Never claimed to be perfect, just the opposite in fact.
/edit, since you edited your post I'll take out my reply to it.
Fraggle, I see this kind of like the thread on tattoos. I have a tattoo and to read opinions that amounted to being called a tramp because I have a tattoo on my back is not pleasant.
Some people's opinions are not pleasant but don't forget, it speaks volumes about the person who holds it. They are more than entitled to their opinions.
Now, take that deep beath and step away from the keyboard. :)
Fraggle, I see this kind of like the thread on tattoos. I have a tattoo and to read opinions that amounted to being called a tramp because I have a tattoo on my back is not pleasant.
Some people's opinions are not pleasant but don't forget, it speaks volumes about the person who holds it. They are more than entitled to their opinions.
Now, take that deep beath and step away from the keyboard. :)
Chicks with tattoos..... Phwoar! Floats my boat :D
fraggle101
02-05-2008, 19:50
post 39 lists **** taking Marcel.. read it.. then you will see what i mean.. although you may not see it as being that bad.. for one reason or another..
And Steep.. If you want to voice an opinion that someone else dissagree's with then expect a responce.. And Control myself!! have you read whats been said and what iv said!! do you not get it!! what says im out of control!! if i were i wouldnt have been posting!! the computer would have been out of the window!!
Im going to try not to post on this thread anymore.. the arrogance of some on here is quite a suprise..
lol thanks BOM, good to have a laugh.:clap:
NorthernNikon
02-05-2008, 19:52
Photographing people - as I do with kids or weddings - is about people skills and empathy - it doesn't matter if you can't spell 'empathy' so long as you have it
But if you can't be bothered to check your post or run it through a spell checker you're showing knack all empathy for the people you're expecting to read your post.
My problem with poor grammar and spelling is that it's a sign of not giving a toss about those you expect to read your words.
It's not an education piece, there are plenty of tools around to help you. I keep getting brain farts over the same words. "Broccoli", "definitely" and "necessary" are three examples, but all I do is spell check them. It's not hard, it's small effort, but I believe that if you care about what you say people are far more likely to listen to what you have to say.
Am I the only person here who thinks the best thing for this thread is if we were to just let it drop away?
No, you're not. What good can come of this discussion? We're all aware, I'm sure, that some folk on here can spell, punctuate and apply grammatical rules to their posts better than others - but does it really matter?
How did lens or lense get to this? :bang: If it doesn't stop now it will get locked, not because it's not a valid thread but because of the petty bickering.
How did lens or lense get to this? :bang: If it doesn't stop now it will get locked, not because it's not a valid thread but because of the petty bickering.
Agreed.
Having opinions in one thing, but resorting to bickering, name calling, or threats of violence will only just get it locked.
So some people don't like seeing spelling mistakes? It's hardly the end of the world.
We should all be tolerant enough to understand that some people have problems. Doesn't stop it being a bugbear to read though.
I understand some old people have difficulty walking, and I'm sympathetic to that. Doesn't stop me being annoyed when I'm trying to get somewhere in a hurry, and I'm stuck behind them on the street.
Fraggle, they weren't taking the ****, they were pointing out facts. Taking the **** would be saying those who cant spell are too thick to use a computer, or too thick to use a camera etc...THAT would be taking the ****, there is a difference.
Not everybody sits in front of a PC all day.
*spell check infront*
Not everybody uses text that needs to be word perfect everyday.
Rarely do I need to write or type anything until I am home from work.
*spell check untill*
I do have to fill out NIC EIC certificates, do complex calculations, and research electrical regulations from a book about a foot thick.
*spell check complext*
I would soon be verbally battered if I expressed consternation at someone's obvious inability to perform a simple cable calc using regulations and tabulated results that I do a hundred times everyday with two spare brain cells.
*spell check somones*
Everyone is taught English at school, and maths, but we dont all know how to transpose formula or do algebraic equations, I do of course, because its my job, typing word perfect....just isn't.
*spell check ofcourse*
So lets just get off it, know your profession, but don't assume everyone else does.....or even cares, just because its important to you, typing word perfect is a profession people do every day and take for granted.
*spell check proffession*
My sister threw me one of the looks I'm seeing in this thread, last week, she asked me to fill out a spread sheet, "a what !"
"spread sheet...you know about spread sheets"
"Don't be ridiculous, why would I, ere, wire this plug you hamfisted loon"
*spell check rediculous*
fraggle101
02-05-2008, 20:44
There were no threats!!! i there were id have said, I AM going to do this or that.. its almost the same as the way you and Steep say that it ONLY an opinion!! when theres clearly **** taking.. and everyones saying just leave it ect.. but people keep comming on and stoking!! we havnt said anything for a while now.. but still theres the finger wagging..
But while im here.. Post 39.. Examples of **** taking.. NOT just an opinion..
Thats the last from me.. carry on... :thumbs:
Lets all go line(ux) dancing.
http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Pingouins/3-pingouins-danse.gif
There were no threats!!! i there were id have said, I AM going to do this or that.. its almost the same as the way you and Steep say that it ONLY an opinion!! when theres clearly **** taking.. and everyones saying just leave it ect.. but people keep comming on and stoking!! we havnt said anything for a while now.. but still theres the finger wagging..
But while im here.. Post 39.. Examples of **** taking.. NOT just an opinion..
Thats the last from me.. carry on... :thumbs:
lets meet up on a meet and you can tell me what you think of bad spelling!!!!!
Come and take the **** out of me to my face.. and we'll see whose the highest on the food chain!!!
If those aren't veiled threats, then I don't know what is.
And post 39? They were mostly posting examples of what common spelling mistakes they see that annoy them. Thats not taking the ****, that's stating facts.
If anyone is taking the ****, it's yourself with your ranting and "Oh but *you're* so perfect aren't you" sarcastic responses.
All I'm trying to say is, everyone is entitled to an opinion, and you can't just jump in with threats, insults and offensive sarcasm just because you don't like their opinion.
By all means disagree, but please do so in the proper manner.
Now if this thread doesn't calm down and everyone actually discusses this like adults, it will be closed, and we'll all, er, forget all about it.
Ah well, seems dod beat me to it and closed it before I finished typing my post.
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