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Need a 82mm polariser.
Wheres the best place to get one?
What price should i expect to pay?
davidbridges
12-06-2008, 21:18
my first choice would be Amazon, not sure about Warehouse Express and other places mind...
82mm ???
what are you fitting that to
I need some 82's
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=11806
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tiffen-82mm-Circular-Polariser-Filter/dp/B00004ZCJD/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1213305601&sr=8-1
What you think? Too much?
Fitting it to a 24-70mm Sigma F2.8
http://www.bristolcameras.co.uk/p-sigma-82mm-circular-polariser-ex-dg.htm
http://bigbenaudio.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=814
http://www.onestop-digital.com/catalog/product_info.php?language=en¤cy=GBP&products_id=203
http://www.purelygadgets.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=3660&wysiwyg=10
http://www.ukoptics.co.uk/hoya-pro1-digital-82mm-circular-polariser-cpl-p-106.html
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=11806
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tiffen-82mm-Circular-Polariser-Filter/dp/B00004ZCJD/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1213305601&sr=8-1
What you think? Too much?
Fitting it to a 24-70mm Sigma F2.8
Cheaper
(http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_1&products_id=99698)
Cheaper still (http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_1&products_id=7705) I'm gonna get one of these, I don't have AF and even if I did I probably wouldn't use it for scapes...:lol:
Eau Rouge
12-06-2008, 21:38
The problem with buying (say) an 82mm one is that you'll eventually need to buy one for every lens you own.
If you are using a polariser, at some point you'll probably want to use ND Grad filters or just plain ND filters. Whatever system you choose for those filters will also have a polariser as part of the range. That gives you a single polariser for all you lenses.
I'm not a fan of filters as such rouge.
Just the polariser.
I have a step up from my 77 to 82 so it can be used on both of my main lenses
is the super hoya on 7day shop worth it?
Or is it best to get the http://www.ukoptics.co.uk/hoya-pro1-digital-82mm-circular-polariser-cpl-p-106.html
as its a pro1?
Wanna try and get it ordered and here for tomorrow.
The problem with buying (say) an 82mm one is that you'll eventually need to buy one for every lens you own.
If you are using a polariser, at some point you'll probably want to use ND Grad filters or just plain ND filters. Whatever system you choose for those filters will also have a polariser as part of the range. That gives you a single polariser for all you lenses.
Sorry, I don't get your second paragraph :shrug:! Could you kindly repharase it, or clarify further? Thanks
Keep in mind that not all Circular Polarisers are the same, even from the same manufacturer you will find different quality! Check here, you'll see a variety of 82mm CP for Hoya ...
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/category/basecategory.aspx?cat03=3072
If you are going to go with the Hoya option, and they may be one of the best manufacturers you can go along with .... you have these options: -
- Super HMC (SHMC) Pro1, the glass is 1mm thick and frame (bezel) is 5mm thick.
- Super HMC (SHMC), the glass is 3mm thick and frame (bezel) is 5mm thick.
- HMC has a 3mm thick glass and a 7mm thick frame (bezel).
There is also the issue with how many coats the element has, I am not sure on this to be honest.
So, just because one is cheaper doesn't mean it is the same one necessarily.
True.
HOYA PRO1 D Circular Polariser (CPL) 82mm Filter, DMC Multicoated, (SHMC, HMC)
Does that sound right? Thats 79?
radiantvision
13-06-2008, 09:03
http://www.microglobe.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?pName=marumi-82mm-circular-polarizer-filter
Beats overrated Hoya in every way and it's much cheaper. Marumi rules ;)
fracster
13-06-2008, 09:04
I don`t think the superduper pro thin ones will accept a lens cap.
I have one of these:
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=1005829
Which takes a lens cap perfectly well.
Stil don't know what to go for :(
http://www.microglobe.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?pName=marumi-82mm-circular-polarizer-filter
Beats overrated Hoya in every way and it's much cheaper. Marumi rules ;)
Seriously? Or sarcasm? Don't want to order soemthing to regret lol
radiantvision
13-06-2008, 10:04
Seriously? Or sarcasm? Don't want to order soemthing to regret lol
Not sarcasm at all. Marumi's ae great; very good quality, easy to clean (much easier than Hoyas). I can only recommend it. Try it, I am sure you will be able to return it if you won't be happy; but personally I have a few of them in different sizes and I will never go back to Hoyas.
Sweet i'll get one ordered then :D
Not sarcasm at all. Marumi's ae great; very good quality, easy to clean (much easier than Hoyas). I can only recommend it. Try it, I am sure you will be able to return it if you won't be happy; but personally I have a few of them in different sizes and I will never go back to Hoyas.
Can you please ellaborate a bit more on why you like these over the Hoya, which are not as expensive as the B+W? Surely no one is going to decide purely because one brand / model is more expensive (more expensive does NOT mean better results) ... but what makes you say this brand is better than Hoya? And which of the Hoyas are you refering to?
radiantvision
13-06-2008, 12:27
Can you please ellaborate a bit more on why you like these over the Hoya, which are not as expensive as the B+W?
Sure. I've had a few black series polarisers by Hoya over years. The biggest issue I've had with them was cleaning; it was near to impossible to do it right without some crazy, specific cloth. Marumi ones are easy to clean, and the picture quality you can get is easily comparable if not the same/better. Another thing is that I remember Hoya filters which were falling off my lenses from time to time, after the lens was kept in the bag - some problems with screw, perhaps? Therefore, Hoya seems overpriced :)
It's all "in my opinion" - I will never buy Hoya again. But you may be happy with them, and that's what beautiful - we have a choice :)
Great, thanks for the clarification .. and you may have saved a few of us some serious £££. Thank you.
radiantvision
13-06-2008, 12:37
No probs mate :)
Radiant do you have a picture with the polar in use?
radiantvision
13-06-2008, 13:04
Yep :) Look here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wojtek_k/collections/72157602032350777/ - most of these shots were done with polar (look mostly for the colour ones from Naples).
Raymond Lin
13-06-2008, 13:09
I would get it from Ebay from HOng Kong, can get yourself a real bargain on there, just get one from a user with high feedback which is obviously a shop. I've been to those actual shops in Hong Kong themselves and the prices in the shops is almost identical to the ones on ebay minus the post and packaging.
Care to post a link to any of these shops, thanks.
Raymond Lin
13-06-2008, 13:19
I wouldn't worry to get it from someone like this guy.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/B-W-67mm-MRC-UV-010-Filter-NEW-F-PRO-Multi-Coated-Alloy_W0QQitemZ280233299070QQihZ018QQcategoryZ3006 6QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
With so many fakes of everything coming from hong kong i'll give it a miss, but cheers fella.
A good point actually, my Hoya UV filter is a pain to clean. Marks very easily, and even with Eclipse cleaning solution and pec pads it's a pain to stop it from streaking.
radiantvision
13-06-2008, 14:45
A good point actually, my Hoya UV filter is a pain to clean. Marks very easily, and even with Eclipse cleaning solution and pec pads it's a pain to stop it from streaking.
Exactly :)
fracster
13-06-2008, 14:55
A good point actually, my Hoya UV filter is a pain to clean. Marks very easily, and even with Eclipse cleaning solution and pec pads it's a pain to stop it from streaking.
Very true, I have three 77mm ones that I don`t use anymore.I also noticed an improvement in my pictures when I removed them from the lenses.
Very true, I have three 77mm ones that I don`t use anymore.I also noticed an improvement in my pictures when I removed them from the lenses.
Are you saying that you get better shots without the CPs?
radiantvision
13-06-2008, 15:44
Are you saying that you get better shots without the CPs?
If they have fingertips all over... ;)
OK, I get the picture (excuse the pun) ... but how do you rate the Marumi? And, would it be suitable for the Sigma 10-20mm? Or would that lens be too wide for the bezel of this CP?
radiantvision
13-06-2008, 15:51
OK, I get the picture (excuse the pun) ... but how do you rate the Marumi? And, would it be suitable for the Sigma 10-20mm? Or would that lens be too wide for the bezel of this CP?
How do I rate the Marumi? Simply excellent, especially considering the price. If there is anything else I could buy instead, it will be B+W or Heliopan - but naturally not for this money :)
Sigma 10-20 - I've never had it, but I think that if you will use it with the APS-C sensor size body it should be fine. I don't think you'll get a vignette...
Thanks :thumbs:
You say that you would recommend the B+W, does that suffer from smear like the Hoya? Afterall, there isn't that much of a price difference between it and the Hoya Pro1 SHMC!
fracster
13-06-2008, 16:29
Are you saying that you get better shots without the CPs?
No, perhaps I caused confusion.I now have a Marumi CPL, I had Hoya Pro UV`s on all me lenses as well as using a Hoya Pro CPL, I took then off for a trial,after reading something by RobertP I believe, my pictures were better,they are a right arse to clean, I nearly always have lens hoods on and am careful with my stuff, so I don`t use the UV`s anymore.
radiantvision
13-06-2008, 16:29
You say that you would recommend the B+W, does that suffer from smear like the Hoya? Afterall, there isn't that much of a price difference between it and the Hoya Pro1 SHMC!
B+W and Heliopan does not suffer. From anything. :D Ha!
No, perhaps I caused confusion.I now have a Marumi CPL, I had Hoya Pro UV`s on all me lenses as well as using a Hoya Pro CPL, I took then off for a trial,after reading something by RobertP I believe, my pictures were better,they are a right arse to clean, I nearly always have lens hoods on and am careful with my stuff, so I don`t use the UV`s anymore.
OK! Now that I can relate to since I too used to keep a UV filter on my lenses and then one day decided I'd remove them (after seeing some weird artifacts in my pictures) and resort to using the hood for front-element protection.
B+W and Heliopan does not suffer. From anything. :D Ha!
Aha, but still there is a big difference between these two filters! B+W is well over £140 while the Heliopan is under £70! Is the Heliopan really a competition to B+W?
Sorry for asking so much on this since I have never been a fan of add-on filters other than the odd UV which I used to use for protection; so, this is all new to me but I am interested in getting a good CP.
Thanks.
skullfish
13-06-2008, 17:03
I've beens using a Marumi 77mm CPL on a nikon 12-24. It's an excellent filter and shows no sign of vigenetting. (It's thinner than my Hoya Pro UV filter!)
Takes a cap fine as well.
I guess that settles it then, Marumi it is. Thank you all for the great feedback here.
Its certainly been an eye opener! Mines on order :D
Which one did you order, then?
Marumi one, hope its goooood
radiantvision
14-06-2008, 13:25
I am sure you won't regret it. :)
radiantvision,
First off, thank you for recommending Marumi. I just got a hold of my CP a couple of days ago and managed to go out and "play" with it today (health was a lot better). For the price, I got the cheaper copy for my 77mm lenses.
On the Sigma 10-20 it worked very well. No vignetting at all! There is a small issue with some of my pictures coming out with a weird haze, but I am not sure if this is just because I am not too able with CPs, or was there something else ... I'm looking into that. Still, the filter performed better than expected.
Again, thank you so much for recommending this filter. You've saved me a huge amount of £££ as I was about to go ahead with the B+W!
puddleduck
29-06-2008, 07:27
Murami is an excellent brand.
Over in Japan its the premium brand, you will only find Murami and Kenko in Japanese camera stores - no Hoya!
Isn't Kenko rebranded Hoya for the Japan market :shrug:?
puddleduck
29-06-2008, 08:05
Its the other way round actually - Hoya is the westernised version of Kenko.
aha ... I knew the two were related somehow :). Thanks for correcting me.
puddleduck
29-06-2008, 08:11
However you definately made the right choice choosing Murami - its the Japanese equvilant of B&W or Heliopan.
That good :woot: !?! ... I saw they have two types for the 77mm, one at just around £40 and the other around £140!
Thinking if I wanted something at the price of £140 then I would have gone for the B+W or heliopan, but I settled for the £40 at the recommendation of other forum member ... and I have to say it seems really great, so far!
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