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Baz777
15-06-2008, 12:31
Link to original light box: http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=61584

I had some decent results using the original light box but was experiencing some inconsistencies with the black background due to the subject and lighting being so close to the back of the box.


Light Box Mark II

The box is one of those flat pack storage boxes with a separate top lid.



Making the light box

1. Cut out one end of the box. Glue to the inside black card to the back half and white card to the front half.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc139/rite_of_terra/DSCF2072.jpg


2. Cut the lid in half.

3. Back half of lid. Glue black card to inside face of the lid. I also glued the cut out piece from the front to the box to the top of the lid to stiffen it up as the light source will stand on this.

4. Front half of lid. Cut out an opening. Glue over the opening 2 layers of white tissue paper. This is to soften/diffuse the light.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc139/rite_of_terra/DSCF2071.jpg


Picture of back and front lids:

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc139/rite_of_terra/DSCF2070.jpg


Picture of box with back lid fitted:

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc139/rite_of_terra/DSCF2073.jpg


Picture of box with back and front lids fitted:

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc139/rite_of_terra/DSCF2074.jpg


Picture of box showing single light source, more can be added if required.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc139/rite_of_terra/DSCF2075.jpg



Light bought from Tesco for £2.99. I bought standard 40W bulbs and 40W spots. I found the standard 40W bulb gives better results.



Advantages:

The black of the background is solid due to no light contamination.

The lighting is more even and diffused.


Some early example test shots:

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc139/rite_of_terra/DSCF2079-800.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc139/rite_of_terra/DSCF2020-800.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc139/rite_of_terra/DSCF2029-800.jpg



Fabric can be used instead of black card.

The white tissue paper can be removed or added too to change the lighting levels.

Gary Wood
15-06-2008, 12:43
Well done Baz these are good shots , not really a flower person but like yours

CT
15-06-2008, 13:16
Great stuff - a practical and money saving idea. :thumbs:

GarynLea
15-06-2008, 13:29
So simple its fantastic .... now where's those scissors?

Thank you

Gary :)

antc
15-06-2008, 13:34
Thats excellent, great work!

Chewy
15-06-2008, 19:13
Love all DIY stuff! there's a pretty good book called 'Low budget shooting' by Cyrill Harnischmacher, makes you want to break out the scissors, tin foil and sticky back plastic!

Only problem is that was making a soft box diffuser... ended up with Tracey Island...:D

CarolineMueller
15-06-2008, 20:11
Great idea. Very creative.

http://www.CarolinePortraiture.com

Baz777
15-06-2008, 23:02
Had time to give it a proper test Saturday night.

11 shots here: http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=66905

Marcel
15-06-2008, 23:09
Excellent! I've been planning to build one of these, this past few days, but working some sort of system where I can interchange the background (change the card colours), and the use these freebie reflectors / diffusers that I got from Focus on Imaging and Amateur Photographer.

bazzer
15-06-2008, 23:35
Thans for sharing your professional secrets with us Barry. You sure do get some excellent shots from the box. I'll be making one myself after summer, when theres not so much to shoot outside !!
:beer: here's to you !

Baz777
15-06-2008, 23:48
professional secrets

More like me being a tight old git, truth be known ;)

idlemonkey
16-06-2008, 06:34
great stuff .... thanks m8ee.

Kdot
16-06-2008, 19:22
Last minute decision to have a go at one of these, making do with whatever was in the house already.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3187/2584423545_d37000ecbc.jpg?v=0
45mm with the kit lens : 4sec @f11.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3190/2584433237_5ac6a03087.jpg?v=0
250mm with the nifty2fifty : 3.2sec @f11.

All I've done is load the RAW image in DPP, convert and save with resizing to 6x4" - added frame in Flickr.

Room for improvements here. There was ambient light in the room (mid-evening), lens choice not ideal for close ups, the lamp I wanted to use was in my sleeping son's bedroom, no light diffuser, nothing worthy to photograph and no black backdrop! Apart from that, ideal! :nuts:

Hammerhead64
17-06-2008, 02:22
Baz

:clap:Thanks for this great idea .... will save me looking like an :nuts: idiot jumping around my front room in pitch black setting off my only flash gun to try and get even subtle lighting.

Paul

Team Sony

Kdot
19-06-2008, 21:47
This is keeping me amused, even if no-one else...not sure on the white balance adjustment here, but again (other than WB) no processing except to resize in DPP and addition of the border in flickr:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/2593098419_a844f384d4.jpg?v=0
47mm with the kit lens : 0.6sec@f7.1

DeadlySmurf
20-06-2008, 08:56
ho no there is a upgrade !!!!!!!
i feel so outdated now :( i dint even get round to making Mk1, time to get my blue peter badge out :D :lol:

Kdot
20-06-2008, 10:56
Think I'm going to need to re-work mine...need more boxes!

foz
20-06-2008, 11:16
Hmm I built mine this morning... but not getting the result I expected .. the lighting is all knackered up.

I used a cloth background from an old shirt but i think it was a little too old so a little too grey...

http://photos.valind.co.uk/yellow-flower1.jpg

http://photos.valind.co.uk/yellow-flower2.jpg

Baz777
20-06-2008, 22:09
This is what I do with each subject.

All shots are taken in RAW, camera mode manual. ISO 100. Macro mode, (I have the Fuji 9600 with fixed lens).

Tripod with cable release is essential, (use camera timer if you don’t have a cable release)

Set the aperture for the desired DOF, (generally F8 for most shots).

I bracket the shutter speed from say 1.5 seconds through 6 shorter increments, so I end up with 6 shots of each subject. This depends greatly on the subject, light/dark.

In PS RAW I change the WB from ‘as taken’ to ‘auto’. This is generally enough to remove the yellow cast from the artificial light.

Another shot from the other night.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc139/rite_of_terra/DSCF2259-800.jpg


Also now tried subjects other than flowers, see link: http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=67420

menacedingaling
19-07-2008, 23:12
Thanks Bazz, that is spot on, here is my first 2 subjects.

Well impressed, putting you down for an OBE.:thumbs:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/2682895315_07c46bbe4f.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3272/2683014061_0221fa4f8a.jpg

Cheers.

Just Dave
19-07-2008, 23:21
the 2 below menacedingaling, look a bit soft to me, the the grass, Love it perfect, :clap::clap::thumbs:



http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc139/rite_of_terra/DSCF2259-800.jpg

Ally
21-07-2008, 00:11
Great job Baz! Cheap and cheerful :)

Dark Star
21-07-2008, 00:41
The guy is a hero :D I love it :D

Ian D J
31-08-2008, 17:51
That is well neat! You know, I might give that a go . . . wonder if I could convert this abandoned project into a lightbox?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/idj20/cardboard1.jpg

It was meant to be a toy castle for a female friend's 6 years old son, but then she became a mum all over again . . . with twins! The lack of space at her tiny 2 bedroomed house meant that this castle project was put on the backburner.
If converted into as a lightbox, boy, it would look very classy, not to mention decorative :D:D:D

CraigF
31-08-2008, 19:49
I really cant see the sense in making home made light tents or boxes.
Ok..it costs you only a few quid in materials and a couple of hours to put it all together.

£3 + 2 hours @ £14 and hour = £31.

Ebay = £15..saving of £16.

I guess its good to mess around and be creative but i would rather sped the time taking pictures.

animal168
31-08-2008, 20:02
cool set up mate. i modified your original to basically what you have here. only difference is i used an old piece of opal perspex on the lid instead of tissue. :thumbs:

JIMC
31-08-2008, 20:12
I really cant see the sense in making home made light tents or boxes.
Ok..it costs you only a few quid in materials and a couple of hours to put it all together.

£3 + 2 hours @ £14 and hour = £31.

Ebay = £15..saving of £16.

I guess its good to mess around and be creative but i would rather sped the time taking pictures.

Cheaper from Maplin £9.99 at present

33L
01-09-2008, 07:03
just thought might it not be also better to have screened windows on the side so the light is more controlable.

Baz777
01-09-2008, 07:19
just thought might it not be also better to have screened windows on the side so the light is more controlable.

Mark II-A :D



http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc139/rite_of_terra/DSCF4583-800.jpg



Some recent examples here: http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=80347

davekiddle
01-09-2008, 07:31
I really cant see the sense in making home made light tents or boxes.
Ok..it costs you only a few quid in materials and a couple of hours to put it all together.

£3 + 2 hours @ £14 and hour = £31.

Ebay = £15..saving of £16.

I guess its good to mess around and be creative but i would rather sped the time taking pictures.

2 hours? :shrug: Took me 10 mins to make mine with stuff I already had lying about. http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=80583

Besides, with e-bay, you have to wait for it to be delivered. I made mine on a rainy day because I wanted to take pictures!


Cheaper from Maplin £9.99 at present

Yeah, plus £20 in fuel to go and get it! :lol:

mateo
01-09-2008, 11:31
Thanks for all this info folks. Especially the settings you have tried successfully Barry.
Personally I like the idea of making stuff out of recycled materials. Great stuff.

Janice
01-09-2008, 11:36
Something satisfying about working with something you have made yourself..........specially if the photos come out well :thumbs:

Do you just use the desklamps or use flash from the camera too?

Baz777
01-09-2008, 11:54
Something satisfying about working with something you have made yourself..........specially if the photos come out well :thumbs:

Do you just use the desklamps or use flash from the camera too?


Just desk lamps - 2 or 4 depending on the subject and lighting I want.

Make sure you change the white balnce to remove the yellow cast from the lamps.

I have bought a light box but prefer the results from the home made one.

horizon
08-09-2008, 20:24
excellent, think ill try one of these, you seem to have got some good results from it...

Baz777
09-09-2008, 10:19
Base Update

Up until now I have been using a piece of glass over black card as a base for close up, downward shots. The problem was that the ‘weave’ in the card meant that I had to shoot using a faster shutter speed than I would like and to then bring up the levels in Photoshop.

I have now purchased a circular black lacquered tray, (Tesco’s), which allows for much slower shutter speeds whilst maintaining a solid black background.

Link here: http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=82423

Lensflare
09-09-2008, 19:49
What's the glass for over the card? To stop water off your flowers dripping?

I like the idea - I have a use for it too, but wouldn't need to worry about anything getting wet! All dry subjects.

I like the idea of the black background, but a blue infinity would be good too, and the back of the box is just far enough away to prevent the card from being defined. Ideal solution to a shooting problem I had.

Many thanks.

richn
05-10-2008, 10:04
this is a great idea, im now hunting around to find a suitable box with a lid. :)

Baz777
05-10-2008, 11:34
Latest set using the light box: http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=86914