The Port At Sunset

[Graelwyn]

1) http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm18/SpiritFreePhotography/IMG_1488croppedf.jpg

2) http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm18/SpiritFreePhotography/IMG_1491landscapef.jpg

3)http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm18/SpiritFreePhotography/IMG_1483f2.jpg

More casual than anything...bit of flare in the 2nd sadly. Know they aint that great. :|

[CraigF]

Not so sure they aint that great. I actually like Number 2 the best, havent a clue why i do though there is just something about it.

[Lateralus]

great shots-love 2 as well:clap:

[Woodsy]

I like these shots. each is well composed and well taken. The only thing I'd say is that the first looks over sharpened; there is a white halo around everything and it kinda spoils the shot.

[Graelwyn]

Thanks. Shall have a go on number 1, it is so hard to tell sometimes if you have oversharpened things, and have such a terror of soft images, lol.

[walls]

1. is ok although seems tightly cropped
2&3 are just pictures of a carpark under a nice sky with a bit of flare thrown in

[Woodsy]

Care to offer any advice then?

[walls]

of what? taking a picture of a carpark? ok, carparks are rarely interesting subjects unless it's the backdrop to some auto exotica with a 5'10, blonde, east european draped over it. Good enough?

[GooGaBu]

I like the first one (apart the slight over sharpening) best as a photo.
The other two don't tickle my taste buds...
On the second photo, the sky looks strange (that could be just my screen as others seem to like it), and the third one has a bit of a 'boring' sky on it, which doesn't add much to the photo.
As an idea I do think the third could work nicely... but as so many times, the sky can make or break the image...

[Graelwyn]

I like the first one (apart the slight over sharpening) best as a photo.
The other two don't tickle my taste buds...
On the second photo, the sky looks strange (that could be just my screen as others seem to like it), and the third one has a bit of a 'boring' sky on it, which doesn't add much to the photo.
As an idea I do think the third could work nicely... but as so many times, the sky can make or break the image...

Very true. Skies are a big pain in the butt at times, unless you know how to manipulate them pp or have some decent filters.

Well, I am not that surprised nor too bothered they aren't that great since I did not set out to shoot anything especially. Thanks for the input, except for the individual who obviously got out of the wrong side of bed, lol or was born without a modicum of tact.

[cason]

I like the first one, it may be over sharpened but i kinda like the effect.

btw dont take onboard unkind comments :thumbs:

[walls]

Thanks for the input, except for the individual who obviously got out of the wrong side of bed, lol or was born without a modicum of tact.

taken that this was directed at me :D Well I thought it was helpful, in other words, don't expect people to get excited when 90% of your shot is a carpark...unfortunately, there's no other way to put it.

I could have said they were carp but I was trying to be tactful...better to tell the truth rather than skirt around it otherwise we get no where. 99.99% of what I shoot is utter garbage so I know what I'm talking about. ;)

[Freester]

Hi Graelwyn.

I really like these. I have some comments, hopefully you will find them constructive.

-- Edited.

-- #1 - I really like this. It's an unusual shot and the 2 main birds really add to the composition. I'd be tempted to clone the 2 smaller ones in the background.

-- #2 - I really like the golden tones and reflections in this one. I didn't even notice the flare to start with as there was so much else to look at. Some might not be impressed with the blown out bit by the sun but personally it doesn't bother me. I'd be tempted to crop in a bit. The foreground is a bit dark and lacking in detail.

-- #3 - Again cracking golden tones. Really tells a story. Didn't Pink Floyd do a song about Soton Docks?

Keep it up...

[Graelwyn]

Hi Graelwyn.

I really like these. I have some comments, hopefully you will find them constructive.

-- Edited.

-- #1 - I really like this. It's an unusual shot and the 2 main birds really add to the composition. I'd be tempted to clone the 2 smaller ones in the background.

-- #2 - I really like the golden tones and reflections in this one. I didn't even notice the flare to start with as there was so much else to look at. Some might not be impressed with the blown out bit by the sun but personally it doesn't bother me. I'd be tempted to crop in a bit. The foreground is a bit dark and lacking in detail.

-- #3 - Again cracking golden tones. Really tells a story. Didn't Pink Floyd do a song about Soton Docks?

Keep it up...

Thanks. Admittedly, I was hyper aware of the flare in no 2. Unfortunately, there was no way to get what I wanted in the scene without including the car park... I wanted those things (I don't know the name of them) in the background all in the shot, and I have yet to have a wide angle so had to stand back.

[Freester]

Sorry the other piece of feedback I meant to leave was #3 is a tad noisy. Looking at the EXIF for all your shots you were shooting with ISO 400, F/6.3 and a shutter speed of 1/8000.

You would easily have gotten away with ISO 100 in this light and a smaller aperture if you had wanted...

[Marcel]

Ive edited a comment, and deleted a post. No more petty arguing.

Anyway, what I think walls point, that he was trying to say in a tactless and cakhanded way was that the subject matter (the car park) isn't interesting enough, and you need interesting subject matter before you can make a good photo out of it.
If your subject matter isn't interesting, then you're going to find it much harder to get a great shot out of it.

Here you've included the car park, which spoils the shots for me. They don't really do anything to tell me what the picture is about?
Lovely sky though :)

[Graelwyn]

Point taken. I wanted to get the port features in the background but could see no way to do it without the carpark. Shouldn't have posted them really. Shall be more selective in future. Southampton is rubbish if you want to get nice sunsets because of all the stupid industrialisation. :(

[walls]

no need to be too selective...only learn by putting up the ones you're not sure of as well as the ones you are...I'm sure you have a thicker skin than some posters are implying. I apologise if it came across a bit harsh though.

[Marcel]

No you should have posted them. That's what we're all here for, as fresh sets of eyes.

[Graelwyn]

no need to be too selective...only learn by putting up the ones you're not sure of as well as the ones you are...I'm sure you have a thicker skin than some posters are implying. I apologise if it came across a bit harsh though.

My skin density varies from day to day, lol.
Today just happens to have been one of those days when I have looked at all my recent work and decided it is utter rubbish lol.

[G-Kenny]

NUmber 1 is my fav from this set although i am not to fussed on the two smaller birds in the background but i am sure if you felt the same a little cloning will fix that

[HIMUPNORTH]

Every time I read a post of yours Graelwyn you are saying it is rubbish.

You should not put yourself through that torture. Yes there are improvements to be made and sometimes the shot can be an almost-but-not-quite. WE ALL HAVE THOSE.

Take the mistakes and learn from them. Have the ones you missed pointed out to you. In time you will need noone to tell you a shot's weakness as you will know what it is (but hopefully more comfortable with the flaws and accepting them). It is only through practice and rigorous self crtique that you will be able to sort the flaws BEFORE you press the shutter - and still there will be more! :lol:

Now, the above set. They are all good but only the last one really conveys the mood of a late summer evening - and it is the less "clean" of the three compositionally.

I would have tried to isolate the cranes more. Three is a good number if you can do it and set against that sky it would have been a great "simplicity" shot.
:thumbs:

Now go back and do some more! :lol:

[Woodsy]

Every time I read a post of yours Graelwyn you are saying it is rubbish.

You should not put yourself through that torture. Yes there are improvements to be made and sometimes the shot can be an almost-but-not-quite. WE ALL HAVE THOSE.

Take the mistakes and learn from them. Have the ones you missed pointed out to you. In time you will need noone to tell you a shot's weakness as you will know what it is (but hopefully more comfortable with the flaws and accepting them). It is only through practice and rigorous self crtique that you will be able to sort the flaws BEFORE you press the shutter - and still there will be more! :lol:

Now, the above set. They are all good but only the last one really conveys the mood of a late summer evening - and it is the less "clean" of the three compositionally.

I would have tried to isolate the cranes more. Three is a good number if you can do it and set against that sky it would have been a great "simplicity" shot.
:thumbs:

Now go back and do some more! :lol:

Quite right :)

[Kev_mk3]

number 2 for me. for me its captured the mood fantastically :)

[Shezz]

I really like #1 - nice stark industrial image

[Mick]

For sure you should have posted them. Any photo is not going to be liked or disliked by everyone, so its good so get different ideas about what works for others and what works for you. For me, #1 is cool, I like the colours here. They work well with the subject. I'm not keen on the birds though (but others are hey!). #2 is the best (well for me it is anyway). Again, the colours are great, I like the light reflecting just a tad off the edges of things and the splash of light on the ground. #3 doesnt do it for me, but hey, thats just me.

Mick.

[CraigyBoy86]

I like all of them! :D I agree they are a bit oversharpened but that's easy to fix. I like the birds in the first one, adds a bit of depth to the image. In the second, I like the composition and how the cranes draw you into the image, plus the colours are great. And the contrast between the stark industrial cranes in the background and the couple in the foreground of the third is great too.

Craig. :clap:

[bazzer]

Nice set, Graelwyn, lovely warm colours - #3 easily the best for me. The 2 people & the cars giving the foreground interest. Love the highlights on the cars
:thumbs: