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apg1985
03-07-2008, 15:05
Hi Guys,

I'm a search engine optimisation expert and have just lauched a new blog for Photoshop Makeovers but am finding it hard to get hi-res images of faces to retouch. Im optimising the blog for first page google position under keywords 'Photoshop Makeovers' and 'Digital makeovers'.

Here's the offer,

If you give me an image and I use it on my blog ill add a link below the image linking to your home page, something like - image supplied by yourweblink.

Send the images to photoshopmakeovers@hotmail.com with your link.

If your interested but have further questions please ask as im really struggling for professional images straight of the Cam

hotchef23
03-07-2008, 15:09
hmmmm?

apg1985
03-07-2008, 15:23
just think if i use 10 images thats 10 backlinks from a site that is relavent to yours and even if you dont have a site i can add something else like your name, email address or number.

hotchef23
03-07-2008, 15:26
hmmmmm?

Tomas Whitehouse
03-07-2008, 15:28
Chopped pork and ham?

mrgubby
03-07-2008, 15:30
I wonder if they'll reccomend me a book :thinking:

hepburn
03-07-2008, 15:31
I would be more impressed if these offers included a proper reply email address rather than hotmail. Don't know what others think but to me a hotmail address is just not professional!

Grendel
03-07-2008, 15:33
:agree: Fishier than a fishy thing from Fishguard :thinking:

mattyh
03-07-2008, 15:34
.....Fishing off the end of a pier, made of fish :D

Betty
03-07-2008, 15:40
Do you know Sunnyjim? :D

apg1985
03-07-2008, 15:44
This is the blog http://photoshopmakeovers.blogspot.com.

I understand what your saying about the email but its just something im doing in my spare time through blogger which doesnt give a domain email address. The reason for the blog is because i take an interest in digital editing and I wanted to put that and my seo together.

True the blog is new its only been going for a week but with out images it wont work so im asking for help.

Tomas Whitehouse
03-07-2008, 15:52
This is the blog http://photoshopmakeovers.blogspot.com.

I understand what your saying about the email but its just something im doing in my spare time through blogger which doesnt give a domain email address. The reason for the blog is because i take an interest in digital editing and I wanted to put that and my seo together.

True the blog is new its only been going for a week but with out images it wont work so im asking for help.

Nope. It makes no sense to write a blog that you can't provide material for yourself. In my opinion you'd take photo's if you were interested in 'digital editing'.

Sorry for being blunt but I think it safe to assume what you want free images for.

apg1985
03-07-2008, 15:59
Not being funny Tom but you dont know what your talking about, you no nothing about SEO from looking at your website. You have a PR of wait for it 0 which means you get 0 traffic, which says one thing to me your photos are poor. So id like to pull back the offer to you.

mattyh
03-07-2008, 16:00
:lol: thats the way to do it, throw your toys out of the pram when you don't get your own way.

apg1985
03-07-2008, 16:03
Mattyh have you got a website that shows up in google? to be honest everyone that posted have any of you got a website that ranks 1st page?

hotchef23
03-07-2008, 16:04
what is your middle name apg1985 Juan Kerr?

hotchef23
03-07-2008, 16:07
Mattyh have you got a website that shows up in google? to be honest everyone that posted have any of you got a website that ranks 1st page?


what has that got to do with the price of pork and beans?

pxl8
03-07-2008, 16:11
Not being funny Tom but you dont know what your talking about, you no nothing about SEO from looking at your website. You have a PR of wait for it 0 which means you get 0 traffic, which says one thing to me your photos are poor. So id like to pull back the offer to you.

Ahem, you can't know much about SEO if you think PR has anything to do with traffic, it doesn't. :bonk:

foodpoison
03-07-2008, 16:12
This topic is full of LOL.

Especially mattyh :D

apg1985, you wouldn't know the first thing about photography so how dare you insult someone on a forum that you are new to.
It is like walking into a room of people you don't know who are interested in something that you know nothing about and telling them that they know nothing.

Go away.

daftbugga
03-07-2008, 16:14
Do you know Sunnyjim? :D


:lol: betty you just made my day so specialy for you

LOL

mattyh
03-07-2008, 16:16
Mattyh have you got a website that shows up in google? to be honest everyone that posted have any of you got a website that ranks 1st page?

Yes thanks.

Got any photos yet? I'm sure with your current approach people will be queuing up to give you photos :lol:

You sir, are male poultry ;)

Betty
03-07-2008, 16:18
I love this place :D:D

pxl8
03-07-2008, 16:18
Hmmm. Ok, I've got some shots you can use but I don't take links but cash will do nicely :thumbs:

apg1985
03-07-2008, 16:19
Ok ok im sorry, i didnt mean to offend. I just dont understand why something so simple turned into a blood bath. Everyone is totally against the offer can someone please tell me what i should do in order to gain professional images from photographers? (PR stands for page rank the only way you gain a high page rank is relavance and traffic. If you look at googles pr its 10 if you look at a site that gains little traffic its usually between 1-3, thats why when people sell there sites they use there PR as the pulling tool.

Jimmy hendrix rules (Hey Joe)

namllihs
03-07-2008, 16:21
http://doom3.planet-multiplayer.de/forum/html/emoticons/spamm.gif

Betty
03-07-2008, 16:21
can someone please tell me what i should do in order to gain professional images from photographers?

Erm, pay? :lol:

mattyh
03-07-2008, 16:21
Well I've probably got some shots too... Paypal transfer ok (from you to me, obviously)?

Tomas Whitehouse
03-07-2008, 16:21
Not being funny Tom but you dont know what your talking about, you no nothing about SEO from looking at your website. You have a PR of wait for it 0 which means you get 0 traffic, which says one thing to me your photos are poor. So id like to pull back the offer to you.

Oh darn, looks like I've lost the offer of a life time, damn my insolence.

Looks like I should call all my clients and apologize for all the poor photo's I'm churning out too, it must be that low PR rating. Time for me to throw the towel in and cease to earn a living eh?

Oh, clicky here! (http://www.google.com/search?q=Tomas+Whitehouse&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a)

apg1985
03-07-2008, 16:24
Right ok, well if you send me a sample of your work and if its good enough to go on my blog ill pay.

pxl8
03-07-2008, 16:25
Well if you want some free photos take them yourself or find a forum with people daft enough to sell them for links/credit/etc.

Betty
03-07-2008, 16:26
Right ok, well if you send me a sample of your work and if its good enough to go on my blog ill pay.

^^^Resized and watermarked you understand? ;)

And what do you mean good enough? Who are you to tell us this work might not be good enough?

Am I missing something here??? :shake:

RobertP
03-07-2008, 16:27
Not being funny Tom but you dont know what your talking about,

Assuming this is you... you seem to know a lot about photoshop

Thanks im actually a seo pro, found a tutorial on youtube about photoshop makeovers which i found by chance, watched a few clips and gave it ago after about 3 gos i got, so decided to blog it. Im going to put some tutorials on my blog as well but im going to sprend that stuff out over the year, want to keep adding stuff every week or so.

Do you know where i could get some hi-res images of models? Ive been using wallpapers which have had little work done to them but im really looking for the same size images but with no work done to them, got any ideas Ugly Cat?




http://www.googlecommunity.com/forum/graphics-design-forum/37580-photoshop-makeovers-help.html#post173766

mmcp42
03-07-2008, 16:28
oooo handbags!:nuts:

pxl8
03-07-2008, 16:39
:lol: @ RobertP

Kerioak
03-07-2008, 16:39
Hi Ross (?)

I cannot work out why you want other people to send you images for your blog - if you are going to do retouching on a commercial basis then you will be charging and thus could pay for the use of the original images. Your blog just shows a couple of examples but no actual information as to why you are displaying them - as a tutorial, because you can or something else.

Bloodbath, not really. We just learn to be suspicious when someone wants something for nothing - and offering links from a new blog without a lot of content from someone who has only just joined is akin to nothing - rather than cash.

~~~

If Robert is correct (and he usually is) then you say you have been downloading images from metacafe - did you read their usage page - downloading pictures from any website and using them elsewhere can sometimes prove very costly

matty
03-07-2008, 16:49
Assuming this is you... you seem to know a lot about photoshop






http://www.googlecommunity.com/forum/graphics-design-forum/37580-photoshop-makeovers-help.html#post173766

*thwack* thats out the park that one!:D

if i google for the website me and a couple of mates did it comes in in the top 10, try it, its called: www.talkphotography.co.uk (http://www.talkphotography.co.uk)

CT
03-07-2008, 16:51
Tch tch. Cynical untrusting lot they are. Have a go at this one then.


http://www.trueugly.com/images/ugly-smile.jpg

Marcel
03-07-2008, 16:54
You see, while this guy comes across as being a knowall about SEO, yet actually sounds as though he knows diddly squat.....this actually sounds quite a clever ruse.

You see what he's done, is basically started this empty blog site (for whatever reason), and him sneaking a link on a well established photography site, means his site crawls that little bit higher in google ;)

Oooooh, do you see what I did there? I called spam....but in a posh way :p

DiddyDave
03-07-2008, 17:02
Mattyh have you got a website that shows up in google? to be honest everyone that posted have any of you got a website that ranks 1st page?

Just Googled for Child photography my area, my website came up 1st & 6th on page 1

:thumbs:

For Wedding photography I was a lowly 2nd on page 1 of Google

:'(

Must be doing something wrong ???

:shake::shake::shake:

What's 'SEO' anyway ???

Currently booking a Wedding a week through it too :bang: God I wish I had an expert helping me

So you can have any images you like from my site m8 - for just a quid more than pxl8 wants

:thumbs:

DD

Treesie
03-07-2008, 17:07
My thoughts exactly pxl8 - if you want images take them yourself.
This certainly appears to be one way traffic .... you're not having any of mine to review or use.:thumbsdown::shake:

foodpoison
03-07-2008, 17:14
Just Googled for Child photography my area, my website came up 1st & 6th on page 1



Definitely read that as child pornography :eek:!

DiddyDave
03-07-2008, 17:20
Definitely read that as child pornography :eek:!



A Freudian Gym-slip ????????

:eek::eek::eek:

:D

DD

sportysnaps
03-07-2008, 17:29
Mattyh have you got a website that shows up in google? to be honest everyone that posted have any of you got a website that ranks 1st page?

so if you don't rate on google you don't sell photos? - wrong - wake up and smell the coffee, google is a starting point if you know nothing. most of the people here who make money from photography do it from targeted marketing.

if you want professional photos you need to pay (that why they are called professional), I'll do you a good deal - how many do you want?:rules:

hotchef23
03-07-2008, 17:46
sold three from my website. the rest is on word of mouth and more bookings coming in.

so i must be crap as i dont know my rank on google

Betty
03-07-2008, 18:23
Aw, you've scared him away :D:D

rally-media
03-07-2008, 18:32
Well I ain't got a website of my own (to display photographs) but then sell them. How's that work then?

apg1985
03-07-2008, 18:37
What i was going to do was try and get some traffic to my blog and add adsense to it, to make some extra cash.

And Marcel to say I know nothing is wrong. What do you know about online marketing? Was you a online marketing manager at the age of 22 on 30K!

Robert you may pull that from googlecommunity, but if you actually looked im a senior member there, because i answer as well as ask questions. If you check my first post there was nothing in that which deserved the response i got.

Betty
03-07-2008, 18:40
Was you a online marketing manager at the age of 22 on 30K!


Wow, I had you all wrong. I have so much respect for you now.

:cuckoo:

Brush up on your grammar too methinks. Want a link to the grammar quiz? :lol:

hotchef23
03-07-2008, 18:40
fraid there was it screamed spam hence my first tow posts. no history you attack people who question. you cant take pictures and then yoou try to intimidate people with your look at me im 22 and on 30K whats that 30k of bull*****?

Marcel
03-07-2008, 18:45
What i was going to do was try and get some traffic to my blog and add adsense to it, to make some extra cash.

So you're only here to make money? For commercial reasons? We do have rules about such activity, have you read them?

And Marcel to say I know nothing is wrong. What do you know about online marketing? Was you a online marketing manager at the age of 22 on 30K!

I didn't say you know nothing, re-read my post.
And what do I know? you came to MY website asking for help, I think that speaks for itself. :lol:....kin a git a AMEN-a?


Robert you may pull that from googlecommunity, but if you actually looked im a senior member there, because i answer as well as ask questions. If you check my first post there was nothing in that which deserved the response i got.

Your user tag comes from postcount. Only a few months ago, you were asking simple questions about SEO.


Look, you came here with a brush up yer arse professing to be an SEO god, asking a bunch of photographers for free photos, so you can make cash off them.

And you wonder why everyone jumped on you? Go figure!

hotchef23
03-07-2008, 18:47
Look, you came here with a brush up yer arse professing to be an SEO god, asking a bunch of photographers for free photos, so you can make cash off them.

And you wonder why everyone jumped on you? Go figure!





LMAO

hepburn
03-07-2008, 18:47
can someone please tell me what i should do in order to gain professional images from photographers?

Pay for them...

smithphoto
03-07-2008, 18:47
why does'nt he use a photo library?

apg1985
03-07-2008, 18:55
I never claimed to be a seo god, i have alot to learn in the area as there are new techniques all the time. To be honest I didnt realise how much the images meant to the photographers, I thought they made most there money through selling them, once that was done just deleted them or used them on there site, but im wrong.

I have learnt one thing and thats i cant just take images and use them so im going to have to scrap the ones online now and find some from somewhere.

Despite what people think i do hold photographers highley, I work for a magazine and i know how one image can take hours to setup in certain cases.

tiler65
03-07-2008, 18:58
Mods...................

Can we put this thread to bed please I am bored.

My 3 year old behaves better than the OP

rally-media
03-07-2008, 19:00
To be honest I didnt realise how much the images meant to the photographers, I thought they made most there money through selling them, once that was done just deleted them or used them on there site, but im wrong..
Despite what people think i do hold photographers highley, I work for a magazine and i know how one image can take hours to setup in certain cases.

Isn't that a bit contradictory?


Also lets just hope you don't proof read the editorials.

Betty
03-07-2008, 19:04
Can we put this thread to bed please I am bored.

Me too. OP, you better give up, it would seem you are fighting a losing battle here.

Notice you didnt really respond to what Marcel had to say too.

Anyhoo...

/toddles off

apg1985
03-07-2008, 19:06
You guys are acting like its some sort of business im trying to setup. Its just something ive got interested in and decided to blog and if it gains traffic maybe try and earn some cash out of.

Bored now, admin guy delete my account.

Betty
03-07-2008, 19:08
Bored now, admin guy delete my account.

Yep, you've been proven wrong. Just leave.

smithphoto
03-07-2008, 19:13
Just checked out this guy's blog. Has'nt he heard of portrait professional? Seems a bit of a pointless exercise to me!

Marcel
03-07-2008, 19:16
Bored now, admin guy delete my account.

No.

mattyh
03-07-2008, 19:16
You guys are acting like its some sort of business im trying to setup. Its just something ive got interested in and decided to blog and if it gains traffic maybe try and earn some cash out of.

Bored now, admin guy delete my account.

Admin don't delete accounts, it's in the site rules ;)

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. :wave:

EDIT: Dammit, beaten by Marcels oh so witty response :lol:

Tomas Whitehouse
03-07-2008, 19:29
Tch tch. Cynical untrusting lot they are. Have a go at this one then.


http://www.trueugly.com/images/ugly-smile.jpg

DAD! No way! How the hell have you got hold of some of my family portraits!
Mods! CT is a theef!!!!! :lol:

joxby
03-07-2008, 19:30
You guys are acting like its some sort of business im trying to setup. Its just something ive got interested in and decided to blog and if it gains traffic maybe try and earn some cash out of.

Bored now, admin guy delete my account.


Yeah, a bit of a laugh blog it might be to you.....but its at someone else's expense.
No one is gonna their throw hard work at a bored internet hermit for his own amusement.

Tomas Whitehouse
03-07-2008, 19:35
What i was going to do was try and get some traffic to my blog and add adsense to it, to make some extra cash.

And Marcel to say I know nothing is wrong. What do you know about online marketing? Was you a online marketing manager at the age of 22 on 30K!


Weird, if your making 30K, Why resort to cheap and delusional scam attempts and why adopt such a bad attitude?

You'll be saying something like "You don't know who I am!" next.

Davec223
03-07-2008, 20:30
You guys are acting like its some sort of business im trying to setup. Its just something ive got interested in and decided to blog and if it gains traffic maybe try and earn some cash out of.

Bored now, admin guy delete my account.

Bye bye.

Just had a look at his blog, blimey, I think my 6 year old could have done that.:D

apg1985
03-07-2008, 20:55
Come on guys its only abit of friendly banter! on a serious note, what are the rules on those royalty free websites, can you use them in anyway you want? I'm removing the ones online now through whats been said on this post, but i need to find some new ones, seriously buy them is the best option?????

mattyh
03-07-2008, 20:56
Surely they'll have the license terms on there??

apg1985
03-07-2008, 20:59
Yeah they do but not in great detail, when they say these photos are royalty free, does that mean i can just use them as they are or i can actually edit them and MAYBE use them for commerical use???

Grendel
03-07-2008, 20:59
Bored now, admin guy delete my account.

Oh you're still here? 2 hours after asking to have your account deleted :thinking:

neo2810
03-07-2008, 21:01
on a serious note

For that to have any impact, you're going to have to take a flight to go get your integrity back.... :nono:

apg1985
03-07-2008, 21:06
Yeah, i should'nt have asked for my account to be deleted because i do actually need help, i dont know anything about this sort of stuff and do need some direction on how to gain images. If the only way is to buy them then thats what ill have to do, but like i said before it was only abit of fun, if i did start making money i would prob use that to buy better images. I more interested in getting the site up and running in google and getting traffic so i can put on CV then get an extra £25 max a month.

Tomas Whitehouse
03-07-2008, 21:27
Yeah, i should'nt have asked for my account to be deleted because i do actually need help, i dont know anything about this sort of stuff and do need some direction on how to gain images. If the only way is to buy them then thats what ill have to do, but like i said before it was only abit of fun, if i did start making money i would prob use that to buy better images. I more interested in getting the site up and running in google and getting traffic so i can put on CV then get an extra £25 max a month.

Ah, then you'll be on £30,300K a year. I see.

On a serious note now, you have made yourself quite clear that you want to generate income using images that are not your own, via adsense, for an extra £25 a month.

:cuckoo:

Seriously, I sincerely hope you understand why no one seems to be interested in helping you out, not just because of your previous attitude but your intentions.
Think about it.

apg1985
03-07-2008, 21:45
Ok, i understand why people might think that and why they wont want to help me but thats not my intention to use other peoples work to gain money.

This is the truth, if i can get a free blogspot blog into page one of google under keywords such as photoshop makeovers and digital makeovers then that shows massive skills in SEO and would be a positive thing for my cv. The reason for wanting to add the adsense is because i have'nt had to use it in the past and thought that if i added it to this blog there is know risk involved as it was free anyway. Do you know how much traffic i would need to gain anything wearth shouting about through adsense! Google pays 75% of the ad cost to the blogger and keeps the rest but thats only when the ad is clicked, to have a add on googles first page would be about £1 to 50p 1-3 position so to have it hidden away on a blog would be even less about 20p 75% of 20p is 15p which means that i would need 200 clicks to earn 30 quid, which isnt going to happen with a blog like mine.

Cobra
03-07-2008, 22:12
Oh darn, looks like I've lost the offer of a life time, damn my insolence.


Oh, clicky here! (http://www.google.com/search?q=Tomas+Whitehouse&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a)

:lol::lol::lol: :thumbs:

apg1985
03-07-2008, 23:13
Im starting to get the feeling that this forum isnt as good as its page rank, and im being serious now all joking aside, you sound very unprofessional. There are a few on here that dont and you can tell they are pros and work in the industry but most sound like its just a hobby or do photography at college or something.

emmmm

^Demon
03-07-2008, 23:18
apg1985 quickly read your posts ....


I think the only person who looks unprofessional is you buddy ....

CT
03-07-2008, 23:27
There's nothing wrong with photography being 'just' a hobby and it doesn't imply anything about the abilities of the person concerned either.

Time for a chill pill. You've got off on a bad footing, and you've taken some stick. If you want to join in the forum you're more than welcome to hang around, but if you're gonna keep sniping, then it's our ball and our game and you're gonna lose.

Relax. Have a browse of the board, there's lots to learn here.

hepburn
03-07-2008, 23:35
Im starting to get the feeling that this forum isnt as good as its page rank, and im being serious now all joking aside, you sound very unprofessional. There are a few on here that dont and you can tell they are pros and work in the industry but most sound like its just a hobby or do photography at college or something.

emmmm

:thinking: You could be right but at least we're all old enough to have been to college.

Your problem is you haven't been straightforward, have chosen to present yourself as professional yet use grammar you should be ashamed of, and then choose to denigrate us. It's hardly the best way to make friends and influence people. Perhaps you could come back in a few years time, when you've been to college!

fallen_mathi
04-07-2008, 00:01
apg1985- to attempt to put an end to this (as although i was laughing my head of, when first reading this post, it has now became quite tiersome), there are many many many other photography formums...youve screwed up any chances of getting photographs on this one, by being un-professional, rude, and quite insulting (speaking from someone who 'only does photography as a hoby' as you so Degenerately put it).
learn from your mistakes on this forum, try else where, and please for your own sake, next time you want people to give up there portrait photographs (which take along time and alot of effort to take), try and be nice,
just my thoughts
a hobbiest.

neo2810
04-07-2008, 01:11
you sound very unprofessional

:thinking:

This is the truth, if i can get a free blogspot blog into page one of google under keywords such as photoshop makeovers and digital makeovers then that shows massive skills in SEO and would be a positive thing for my cv. The reason for wanting to add the adsense is because i have'nt had to use it in the past and thought that if i added it to this blog there is know risk involved as it was free anyway. Do you know how much traffic i would need to gain anything wearth shouting about through adsense! Google pays 75% of the ad cost to the blogger and keeps the rest but thats only when the ad is clicked, to have a add on googles first page would be about £1 to 50p 1-3 position so to have it hidden away on a blog would be even less about 20p 75% of 20p is 15p which means that i would need 200 clicks to earn 30 quid, which isnt going to happen with a blog like mine.

Nuff said :cuckoo:

MikeeB
04-07-2008, 01:13
Yup I'm afraid you've gone about it all wrong by not being honest in the first place and being rude to members here. Your chances of getting anywhere here have dropped to 0.

Byker28i
04-07-2008, 07:49
DAD! No way! How the hell have you got hold of some of my family portraits!
Mods! CT is a theef!!!!! :lol:

I have a brother? :eek::D:D

SAuchterlonie
04-07-2008, 09:14
"have chosen to present yourself as professional yet use grammar you should be ashamed of"

Amen.....I find all your posts totally unreadable.

Simon

SimonTALM
04-07-2008, 12:29
Can we all stop sniping at each other I thought this was a friendly place

apg1985 - let's face it your posts don't all add up and people are calling you on this. You start off by saying you are a SEO expert but fail to recognise that Page Rank simply represents how good the site is a getting links in from other sites and has no real relation to the content on it.

However, as an attempt to get to stop all the arguing and either get rid of you to another forum where I have no interest becasuse you really are a spam merchant or preferably help bring you round to become a useful community memeber have you looked at Flickr and using images with one of the creative commons (http://www.flickr.com/creativecommons/) licences?

Treesie
04-07-2008, 13:22
Im starting to get the feeling that this forum isnt as good as its page rank, and im being serious now all joking aside, you sound very unprofessional. There are a few on here that dont and you can tell they are pros and work in the industry but most sound like its just a hobby or do photography at college or something.

emmmm

You have insulted every member of this forum with your remarks.
You ask for images then you say you may pay for them if they are good enough then have the nerve to say we sound very unprofessional. :shake::shake:

Take a step back and look at what you are trying to achieve, then find someone to take your images and pay them. :|

Slvrbck
04-07-2008, 13:56
I'm sure this is Marcel with too much time on his hands.
Every day we have a good old bitch thread, and then Marcel will get bored and close it!

apg1985, is that you Marcel??

Tomas Whitehouse
04-07-2008, 14:18
I have a brother? :eek::D:D

Wow! I have a brother! How many teeth ya got? It's like gene's re-united!:lol::lol:

Kerioak
04-07-2008, 14:20
Royalty Free licences go into great detail as to what you cannot do with them - if you take the time to read them.

fabs
05-07-2008, 07:27
you sound very unprofessional. There are a few on here that dont and you can tell they are pros and work in the industry but most sound like its just a hobby or do photography at college or something.

:thinking: Where does this forum sate "Talk PROFESSIONAL photography"? As for yourself, apart from your appalling grammar, we have members aged 16 (and probably younger) on this forum who have the ability to communicate in a more adult and respectful manner with other people than you!

And BTW, 22 on £30k? Not exactly Bill Gates territory!

Edit: Sorry I'm late joining this thread, I've been out on photo shoots, earning money from my website which has a Page Rank of 0!

Marcel
05-07-2008, 09:57
I'm gonna close this now, as I think it's run it's course.
Lets pride ourselves in not rising anymore to the bait. As fun as it is, I think this guy is just a fly by night chancer (or a troll).

Let's concentrate on keeping this a fun place to be for those who love photography :thumbs:

apg1985, if you want to join in our site, and talk about photography, then you're welcome to. However, if you're just going to insult our members, or are here for your own commercial gain then I politely ask you leave and don't come back.