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http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/images/nikon_d90.gifPre Photokina: After a steady trickle of leaks and rumors Nikon has announced the successor to its popular D80 middleweight digital SLR in the shape of the D90. The D90 looks very similar, but underneath it's a completely new camera that's inherited advanced features from further up the line and user-friendly features from the D40/D60 range. Oh, and it's the world's first digital SLR with a movie mode. Oher features of note include a new 12.3 MP CMOS sensor, the D3/D300/D700's fab high resolution 3.0-inch screen and continuous shooting at up to 4.5 frames per second. We've had a D90 for a few days now, just enough time to produce a detailed hands-on preview.
Newsfeed courtesy of RobGalbraith : Click for more... (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0808/08082702nikond90previewed.asp)
King_Boru
27-08-2008, 05:07
D-Movie mode is going to be interesting. Imagine the moving image capabilities brought to the masses now. Everything from ultra telephoto to ultra wide angle to macro. I wonder how many seconds it can record.
Nikon Man
27-08-2008, 06:15
Well I was going to march down to my local Jessops to purchase a D300 this week, but looks like i'll hold off and see how this new D90 pans out price wise.
The price of D300 and D90 are going to be quite close, as the D300 has been dropping in price recently.
Do we know when it is on sale ? days or weeks
Nikon Man, I'm in the same boat as you. Was looking at the D300 but then heard the rumour of the D90. Guess its a question of waiting to see how close they are, any estimates on price? I'm going for £700-£800 with kit lens.
Flashman
27-08-2008, 07:46
I wonder how many seconds it can record.
I don't know about Canada... but, as I understand it, in the UK Camcorders attract a much higher rate of duty than digital cameras (14% I think). I believe that recording time has to be limited to under 10 minutes to avoid it attracting the camcorder level of duty.
I may be wrong... feel free to correct me! :)
Flashy
Available for pre-order at £849 which pretty much puts it in D300 territory:
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=1028015
Available for pre-order at £849 which pretty much puts it in D300 territory:
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=1028015
i would wait a couple of months, it will settle eventually to what the D80 / D200 gap was...
I can see the body being £699 within a fairly short time.....
NorthernNikon
27-08-2008, 09:07
I may be wrong... feel free to correct me!
Okay, (seeing as you snuck your SB-800 up for sale without telling me :razz: ;))
Nikon have confirmed to AP that the max length will be 20mins to get under the EU tax shenanigans.
NorthernNikon
27-08-2008, 09:10
Available for pre-order at £849 which pretty much puts it in D300 territory:
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=1028015
No it doesn't. The D300 is still over £900 body only. The D90's RRP is £699. Ref. (http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Nikon_unveils_D90_with_video_news_266340.html)
No it doesn't. The D300 is still over £900 body only. The D90's RRP is £699. Ref. (http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Nikon_unveils_D90_with_video_news_266340.html)
My guess of £699 wasnt bad then.
That works out right with £200-£300 seperating them.
Bruce120
27-08-2008, 09:15
Movie mode on a DSLR, this is exciting.
Movie mode on a DSLR, this is exciting.
i think its stupid personally, thats what a camcorder is for.
Same as i never take a still shot with my camcorder.
NorthernNikon
27-08-2008, 09:46
i think its stupid personally, thats what a camcorder is for.
Same as i never take a still shot with my camcorder.
Well that's your opinion. It's not the opinion of many news togs nor of many amateurs who, like me, would like the ability to capture video with a DSLR rather than have to carry one and a camcorder.
Well that's your opinion. It's not the opinion of many news togs nor of many amateurs who, like me, would like the ability to capture video with a DSLR rather than have to carry one and a camcorder.
Yes it is my opinion, and you have yours
my point is the video capture isnt going to be anywhere near as good as a camcorder.
Same as you wouldn,t tog with a camcorder, or a mobile phone camera for that matter.
i think its stupid personally, thats what a camcorder is for.
Same as i never take a still shot with my camcorder.
Dunno, some macro photography could be really interesting in a 'movie'. I'm kind of hoping that somehow there'll be a D300 update so I can have this feature on my 'higher end' camera. Not bothered about sound for this stuff.
stressless
27-08-2008, 10:09
i can see the advantages to it but guys and girls its the old washer dryer thing if you cant fit a washing machine and a tumble dryer in the kitchen the washer dryer will do but not going to be nearly as good as 2 machines
Michael
NorthernNikon
27-08-2008, 10:11
Same as you wouldn,t tog with a camcorder, or a mobile phone camera for that matter.
Who wouldn't? Many news agencies are sending out their togs with video cams and taking still frames from that footage. I wouldn't want to invest in a camcorder, I wouldn't get the use out of it, but I do like using the video feature on my wife's compact and there have been times where it would have been good to have on my DSLR. Many people enjoy having a camera on their phone and use them creativily.
Just because you can't see how a feature might be used doesn't make it "stupid".
Bruce120
27-08-2008, 11:17
Who wouldn't? Many news agencies are sending out their togs with video cams and taking still frames from that footage. I wouldn't want to invest in a camcorder, I wouldn't get the use out of it, but I do like using the video feature on my wife's compact and there have been times where it would have been good to have on my DSLR. Many people enjoy having a camera on their phone and use them creativily.
Just because you can't see how a feature might be used doesn't make it "stupid".
Thanks for the support, I guess the variety of lens available make it more interesting than a normal camcorder
Hmmm....I now actually want this more than I want a D300. The video feature, whilst obviously not of interest to many, would be great. A lot of the time my photography has to fit in around my family, i.e. I get to take my camera with us on family days out. At the moment I also have to carry the point and shoot as it is nice to be able to grab small video clips but obviously the quality isnt amazing (and I cant be bothered carrying the video camera as well). If I could take video on my DSLR then not only do I have one less camera to carry about but I also have an excellent reason to have my DSLR out for more of the day :D Win win!!
Also means I am more likely to be allowed to upgrade if I can go 'This one lets me shoot videos' rather than 'this has improved low light performance and 52 focus zones'
This actually looks like a worthy upgrade from a D50 :suspect:
FruitFlakes
27-08-2008, 11:40
Yes it is my opinion, and you have yours
my point is the video capture isnt going to be anywhere near as good as a camcorder.
Same as you wouldn,t tog with a camcorder, or a mobile phone camera for that matter.
Give me a prosumer camcorder that allows you to mount everything from fisheyes, fast 1.4 primes and huge telephotos for less than 1K.
http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2008/08/chase-jarvis-raw-advance-testing-nikon.html
Guys, I think discussing the video mode on the D90 is pointless at this time. If you don't want it, don't use it.
Strangely enough, it seems this thread is slipping to something like this:
http://xkcd.com/386/
Give me a prosumer camcorder that allows you to mount everything from fisheyes, fast 1.4 primes and huge telephotos for less than 1K.
http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2008/08/chase-jarvis-raw-advance-testing-nikon.html
I may be getting confused here so can people just clarify for me.
Are people thinking this new feature is good because it will save them carrying a compact to do the video bit.
Or is it to save carrying a camcorder??
If its the former, then yes, although i think its daft and would never use it, i can see the benefit....
If its the latter, it cant replace a camcorder.
and the comment on show me a camcorder that does it for 1k is kind of pointless as thats my whole point - it cant be as good as an add on, its not designed for the job.
It would be like me togging sports with a £300 camcorder, then saying i dont need an slr, show me an slr that can do 25fps for £300
What next, face detection?
But then like you say, there's no need to use it. Like a pop-up flash or 'scene' modes, you can just ignore it.
Seems like an exciting new model regardless, but I'm having trouble keeping track. I was just starting to think about buying a D200, but suddenly there's the D300/700 and now this... Certainly can't complain at a lack of choice, that's for sure.
Any news on when it is officially out in the u.k
What next, face detection?
But then like you say, there's no need to use it. Like a pop-up flash or 'scene' modes, you can just ignore it.
Scene modes and pop up flash i think will always be in this level of camera.
I suppose they are just trying to make it appeal to more people.
The simple fact is its not on my D300, its not on the D3, and not on the New D700........
If it were such a brilliant feature, it would be on the prosumer bodys, but it isnt, its a gimmick for the consumer bodies to sell more of them. Cant knock em for trying, but i still think its pointless.....
FruitFlakes
27-08-2008, 12:00
I may be getting confused here so can people just clarify for me.
Are people thinking this new feature is good because it will save them carrying a compact to do the video bit.
Or is it to save carrying a camcorder??
If its the former, then yes, although i think its daft and would never use it, i can see the benefit....
If its the latter, it cant replace a camcorder.
and the comment on show me a camcorder that does it for 1k is kind of pointless as thats my whole point - it cant be as good as an add on, its not designed for the job.
It would be like me togging sports with a £300 camcorder, then saying i dont need an slr, show me an slr that can do 25fps for £300
If you watched the video in the link it records video at a pretty decent quality - and that's the rub, a £300 camcorder doesn't take stills as good as a still camera, but the D90's video mode is very impressive from what I've seen and pretty much on par with a prosumer camcorder. The flexibility afforded by the lens mount and sensor size is a huge plus.
1. The D-movie. HD720 video in an dSLR is really big news. It’s so cool that we’re seeing the merging of high quality still and video pictures into the same camera. Sure, for us pros, we’ve got the RED camera. But for everybody else? This is the future. People: this is an SLR that shoots killer video! It’s the merging of features that the pros are using and it’s made accessible the the amateur at a price point of $1200+ bucks. Trust me, I played with this feature at length...all of us on location did, for that matter. It's going to be a powerful tool. You can control your own depth of field so beautifully using the manual focus ring, the audio capture is solid, the high ISO capabilities in video?! Way cool... Long lenses, fisheyes, zoom lenses...versatility. I’m a BIG fan of the D-Movie.
If you watched the video in the link it records video at a pretty decent quality - and that's the rub, a £300 camcorder doesn't take stills as good as a still camera, but the D90's video mode is very impressive from what I've seen and pretty much on par with a prosumer camcorder. The flexibility afforded by the lens mount and sensor size is a huge plus.
Pretty decent quality - Maybe so
pretty much on par with a prosumer camcorder - Be serious now
Im into video as much as im into photography, and it just wont be as good.
You say from what youve seen, i assume you mean reviews on the internet....VHS looks good on a portable TV, put in on my 42" plasma and its unwatchable.
FruitFlakes
27-08-2008, 12:15
Pretty decent quality - Maybe so
pretty much on par with a prosumer camcorder - Be serious now
Im into video as much as im into photography, and it just wont be as good.
You say from what youve seen, i assume you mean reviews on the internet....VHS looks good on a portable TV, put in on my 42" plasma and its unwatchable.
Look at the quote. If a professional is impressed by the output from the D90 I'd be inclined to believe the same. You can go "OMG VIDEO ON A SLR ITZ NEVA GONNA WORK OH NO NO NO NO!" But fact of the matter is that the video mode will be a huge selling point for the D90's intended audience, people like you and I.
Look at the quote. If a professional is impressed by the output from the D90 I'd be inclined to believe the same. You can go "OMG VIDEO ON A SLR ITZ NEVA GONNA WORK OH NO NO NO NO!" But fact of the matter is that the video mode will be a huge selling point for the D90's intended audience, people like you and I.
Im not disputing it will be a good selling point, im just saying its not a replacement for a camcorder.
FruitFlakes
27-08-2008, 12:28
Im not disputing it will be a good selling point, im just saying its not a replacement for a camcorder.
But to many it will be. It isn't going to take market share away from companies like RED, Canon and Sony, but the output from the DX sized sensor, coupled with all those lovely Nikkor lenses means that many professional techniques and capabilities can now be had at a reasonable price and if video makes it into Nikon's next pro body, many journalists will use it for documentary stuff in the same way 3G phones are used to broadcast reports.
NorthernNikon
27-08-2008, 13:19
If it were such a brilliant feature, it would be on the prosumer bodys, but it isnt, its a gimmick for the consumer bodies to sell more of them. Cant knock em for trying, but i still think its pointless.....
No, it's not a gimmick, if it were it would have no real value. It's a feature. A feature designed to appeal to a certain market of users. The fact that it odesn't apeear on the Nikon pro line up isn't a refelction of whether it's worthwhile, it's a reflection of the fact that these bodies are aimed at different consumers.
You might not like it, that's fine, you don't have to use it, that's also fine, but you denegrate a feature just because you don't like it or wouldn't use it.
No, it's not a gimmick, if it were it would have no real value. It's a feature. A feature designed to appeal to a certain market of users. The fact that it odesn't apeear on the Nikon pro line up isn't a refelction of whether it's worthwhile, it's a reflection of the fact that these bodies are aimed at different consumers.
You might not like it, that's fine, you don't have to use it, that's also fine, but you denegrate a feature just because you don't like it or wouldn't use it.
if you bother to read my comments properly, im not knocking it being on that level of camera. what i am saying is quality wise, its not a camcorder replacement...
Can we keep all Nikon D90 comments in here for a bit please. :)
And perhaps we could drop the camcorder thing until we see some results? ;)
FruitFlakes
27-08-2008, 14:11
http://chsvimg.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/d90/en/d-movie/
That'll do, no? :D
EDIT: In fact, bits from the first video was shot by the guy's blog I linked to.
http://chsvimg.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/d90/en/d-movie/
That'll do, no? :D
EDIT: In fact, bits from the first video was shot by the guy's blog I linked to.
i give up:bonk:
the video on the website is viewing at about 4" x 3", how can anyone tell from that??????
you are viewing it at 0.12 megapixel resolution.
Looks pretty good to me. Does the D90 record sound then?
EDIT - yes it does.
wow!, looks a decent bit of kit. the videos from the above link look pretty awsome too, could be a bit of fun!
ill take the d300 still though please
Shame the AF doesnt work in D-mode.
Shame the AF doesnt work in D-mode.
I was thinking that too but then I realised how close the mic is to the AF motor and the whirring would probably be quite annoying. I guess that its limitation is the same as it is with live view (which most people don't bother with either it seems)... I really hope the D300 can somehow be updated as it looks like a lot of fun.
Shame the AF doesnt work in D-mode.
yeah, aint got my head round that yet, if there no AF how do you control the DOF
I was thinking that too but then I realised how close the mic is to the AF motor and the whirring would probably be quite annoying. I guess that its limitation is the same as it is with live view (which most people don't bother with either it seems)... I really hope the D300 can somehow be updated as it looks like a lot of fun.
firmware possibly yes, but there is no mic on the D300, so they would have to market an external one
yeah, aint got my head round that yet, if there no AF how do you control the DOF
Manual focus. I'd expect the aperture is something that can't be changed on the fly either.
Not bothered about the mic really (would be nice) but the feature itself would be great :)
FruitFlakes
27-08-2008, 14:54
i give up:bonk:
the video on the website is viewing at about 4" x 3", how can anyone tell from that??????
you are viewing it at 0.12 megapixel resolution.
And the D90 shoots at 720p. So it can only look better than it already is. ;)
yeah, aint got my head round that yet, if there no AF how do you control the DOF
By using the focus wheel? By using a smaller aperture? By using a wide-angle lens? :p
a1ex2001
27-08-2008, 14:59
If it were such a brilliant feature, it would be on the prosumer bodys, but it isnt, its a gimmick for the consumer bodies to sell more of them. Cant knock em for trying, but i still think its pointless.....
What a ridiculous comment, it's like live view once it wasn't posible now it is and in the same way as live view will be a feature of every future DSLR I'm sure it won't be long before video mode is a feature too.
It's a real shame that this thread has decended into a petty video feature argument, it's just one tiny feature on what looks to be an etremely good camera spec. We are finally getting some real competition back bettween canon and Nikon right across the range (Once Nikon give in and put a focus motor in the entry level camera!) focus on the incredible ISO performance that nikon seem to be bringing to the party not some tick box shelf edge feature.
And the D90 shoots at 720p. So it can only look better than it already is. ;)
are you thinking before you type or just reading the figures and falling for the marketing plan.
720p is just a figure....
You can have 720 lines which are rendered good, and 720 lines that are rendered bad.
My point was if you shrink something down to 0.12mp as opposed to the 0.921 megapixels its actually recording at then you will loose all the noise and make it look crisper.
Heres a video of the first D-movie.
http://chsvimg.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/d90/en/d-movie/
Its looks pretty good to be truthfully honest.
Jordie.
Right, lets get this thread back on track, because aside from the gimmicky video feature, its an excellent replacement for the D80, unless you need some of the extra D300 functions then for £699 its a bloody bargain....... so lets leave the video bit alone till someone can shoot one, encode to MPEG 2, burn it to DVD, play it on TV and then see if it really stacks up.
I like it and as has already been said some great spec for the price, it would make a damn good back up to the D700, or is that just damn greedy :D
Right, lets get this thread back on track, because aside from the gimmicky video feature, its an excellent replacement for the D80, unless you need some of the extra D300 functions then for £699 its a bloody bargain....... so lets leave the video bit alone till someone can shoot one, encode to MPEG 2, burn it to DVD, play it on TV and then see if it really stacks up.
Couldnt agree more.
Is it definitely the D300's sensor though? I read some website that said the dimensions were slightly different...
Look forward to seeing the iso performance on this compared to the D80.
tel48 - yes thats greedy, but who cares eh, lol
cyprio - the dimensions should be identical, cant be 100% if the sensor is identical because the d80 and d200 sensor used to differ
puddleduck
27-08-2008, 18:05
Video doesn't interest me at all - looks a fairly decent camera... but seems pricey compared to the D80?
the rrp is £699, not sure what the D80 RRP is but its around for £450 body only..
I would imagine the D90 will be available for £599 within a short space of time, which is where the D80 was back at release time.
Looks like they have different sensors, the Total (not effective) pixel count is slightly different.
alexisonfire
28-08-2008, 00:45
Look forward to seeing the iso performance on this compared to the D80.
From what i've read, the sensor is a tweeked version of the D300's and performs slightly better :eek:
TheKrikkitWars
28-08-2008, 08:45
i think its stupid personally, thats what a camcorder is for.
Same as i never take a still shot with my camcorder.
But you don't have a HD capable, interchangable lens camcorder do you?* The D90 will basicly own a normal camcorder all over the shop.
*If you do, it sure as damn ain't a consumer one.
But you don't have a HD capable, interchangable lens camcorder do you?* The D90 will basicly own a normal camcorder all over the shop.
*If you do, it sure as damn ain't a consumer one.
Wasn't gonna get drawn into the camcorder comment...lol But, IMHO I shoot a hell of a lot of video in both SD and HD, and I believe the D90 will rock on the video image quality front. The purity of the glass will produce some great results I'm sure. Nikon aren't gonna render at 720p with a advanced CMOS chip and make the IQ bad. Where the D90 will lack severly (and why you wouldn't replace a camcorder with it) is on the functionality/feature front.
Unless you are going to get loads of compatible video hotshoe accessories (lights, mics etc) and full AF support then it probably won't replace proper HD video kit.
JM2c ;)
well I have been thinking about upgrading my d70 to a d80, I think waiting a couple of months and going for a d90 instead may be the new plan. Or perhaps seeing what happens to the d80 price lol
too many decision, why cant they just stop improving these cameras so we can all be happy with what we have :)
For those suggesting it won't compete with a camcorder...no it won't...in some ways it will be way way better than any consumer level camcorder. I believe I'm right in thinking it will handle any lens (pretty much) and the videos posted so far show that depth of field is equal to that of a still photo from the same lens. Bolt a fast lens on it and the quality and depth of field should be exceptional, I've not seen a bog-standard camcorder in Argos that will throw backgrounds out of focus like you would expect to see in the movies.
Sure, it will have far less features than a camcorder, but for short high quality clips it looks unbeatable, and obviously this is only effort #1, if it improves at the rate live view has it could be a superb feature to have on hand. The lack of AF isn't an immediate concern, if I'm shooting with a 50mm 1.8 I would probably want full control anyway.
At the end of the day, they don't appear to have made shortcuts on the camera to add this movie feature, it still has the stunning 3" LCD, sounds like it has class leading high ISO performance etc etc. As a D50 user trying to save for a D300, the D90 is a very tempting alternative as I would have plenty left over for a nice macro lens or something.
SuperCNJ
28-08-2008, 15:37
I've placed an order for a D300 last week but just saw this thread and I must admit its very tempting indeed. I have a few days to cancel the order so I'm wondering if people can advice on the pros and cons of the D90 vs D300.
Yeah I know its too early to say as no one actually has one to test but bearing in mind that I probably won't be buying another body for some time and that I am getting the D300 for about £815 delivered would you stick with the D300 or wait for the D90?
The D90 seems to have most of the features I am looking for in the D300 bar the 51 focus points, high shutter speeds, ergonomics, HDMI output and all the switches, buttons for quick change of settings. I'm not that bothered about the movie feature really. I can see it being handy on holiday but not that fussed about it.
Any advice/opinions? :shrug:
desantnik
31-08-2008, 21:49
I've placed an order for a D300 last week but just saw this thread and I must admit its very tempting indeed. I have a few days to cancel the order so I'm wondering if people can advice on the pros and cons of the D90 vs D300.
Well, read the specs side by side here:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=nikon_d90%2Cnikon_d300&show=all
Yeah I know its too early to say as no one actually has one to test but bearing in mind that I probably won't be buying another body for some time and that I am getting the D300 for about £815 delivered would you stick with the D300 or wait for the D90?
Well, both are current, one is consumer and the other is prosumer. The more expensive one has more high speed low drag features. If you don't understand what the extra bits can do, you probably don't need them!
From what I've heard the image quality from the D90 is slightly better than the D300 (which I would expect, similar MP count, same sensor size, newer sensor.)
The D300 still wins on ergonomics and build quality, and I'd buy another D300 today, since I've got used to how it handles and love how rock solid it feels.
Looks like now is the time to sell my D50! This is probably what I've been waiting for.
*crying with happiness*
does any body know the actual release date?
and how long does it normaly take for the first price drop (I am thinking this will be a godo xmas present to ---me :o) )
It should be be released by the end of September, most of the prices I've seen are £849 so give it a couple of months to see the price start dropping.
Although I have seen it here for £749, I've not heard of this company so cannot endorse them. At first I thought it was grey import but it looks like a UK model with 2 year warranty:
http://www.ukdigital.co.uk/nikon_d90_18_105mm_lens.htm
reddeathdrinker
02-09-2008, 17:04
I'm just wondering if the people trashing the D90's movie mode in this thread are actually planning on buying a D90? It seems the next logical step for Nikon, they attracted a new consumer base with the D40/60, so another feature like recording video, especially at 720p can only mean more people will be attracted to the idea of buying a Nikon SLR. Good business sense if you ask me. They will still do cameras for the "Bah Humbug" brigade, I'm sure ;)
OO ma gawd, it seems the D90 is really mixing things up, upsetting a lot of forums I've been reading.
All the talk is D90, even in 50D threads, stolen thunder, peeps are getting really stupid about it all.
So what are the implications for the D90 and the 50D ?
There's a lot of talk about the pro-esque nature of the D50 V the comparative likely sales of the D90 with its "advanced feature set".
Where, what, how and why are these two going to compete, because they are going to compete at one level or another, whether it fits with peeps idea of where each cameras sits on the ladder, or not.
Bearing in mind we just have a few high iso shots and a spec sheets for both body's to comment on.
there not really competing models though.
The new D90 Competed with the 450D
The D300 is the 50D's competition
there not really competing models though.
The new D90 Competed with the 450D
The D300 is the 50D's competition
That's what they say in the 50D threads....but they would wouldn't they.
I'm certain there is a demographic looking slightly higher up the scale from 450's and D60's, and for the money on new tech it'll be the 50D & D90.
Doesn't matter what you or I think, or how thick the blindfold is, its about selling cameras.
That's what they say in the 50D threads....but they would wouldn't they.
I'm certain there is a demographic looking slightly higher up the scale from 450's and D60's, and for the money on new tech it'll be the 50D & D90.
Doesn't matter what you or I think, or how thick the blindfold is, its about selling cameras.
I dont think people looking at 50D level semi pro weathersealed alloy body are going to be tempted to buy a D90 £400 cheaper.....
Same as the 450D doesnt steal sales from Nikons D300, but the 50D will.
They are on a different level
I don't really get what all the fuss is about with the video mode :shrug:, surely this can't be a bad thing it can only make a good camera better, the way i see it this is just the shape of things to come so we best get used to it, as for who will buy the D90 I'm thinking the kind of person who wants a DSLR but not just an entry level one ie, D40X, D60, or 400D, someone who thinks they may upgrade within 6 months of buying, if that's the case this is the ideal option for that person, they can gain a lot of experience with a great camera and not worry about upgrading for a year or more, i reckon it's a win win situation.
I dont think people looking at 50D level semi pro weathersealed alloy body are going to be tempted to buy a D90 £400 cheaper.....
Same as the 450D doesnt steal sales from Nikons D300, but the 50D will.
They are on a different level
I didn't realise they were so far apart :bonk:.....scratch that, I didn't realise the 50D was so expensive.
Its still 2-300 quid more expensive than the D300.., thats gotta come down to under a grand I would have thought.
You're right, they are too far apart for anyone tossing a coin in the shop.
:shrug:I wondered what all the fuss was about, why the D90 is making so much noise in 50D threads, I thought they must be closer, monetarily.
I think its just stealing the limelight :thinking: I gotta stop reading these forums, peeps are just mental.
lol
the D300 was £1199 at release, i paid £979 for mine a couple of months back, so yes it will drop to under a grand.
the D90 RRP is £699, we can expect to see that at £599 within 2-3 months
So there will still be a £350 difference between it and the D300 / 50D.
The reason its probably been mentioned is it has all the High iso features of the D300, and the D300 is ahead of the 40D, the 50D should redress the balance, the point about the D90 is, as far as noise levels go, there will be a nikon that can acheive a similar level of IQ for £400 less than the Canon.
This is all until of course the 450D MK2 / 500D is released with 15mp and dicks all over the nikon.
Well, its all about now, and as far as I can tell, with the limited high iso shots available and no in depth pixel peeping, the D90 looks smoother at 6400.
I'm still waiting for the "dicks all over Nikon" bit for the last lot of Nikon releases.
Its a safe bet the 50D isn't going to dick all over the D300 either looking at early samples.
anyway....:suspect:......D90 + video = stroke of genius
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