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Which Flash Should i get for my Canon 40D?
Canon Flash or Sigma?
Go with either the 580 or 430 Canon units.... I went with the Sigma to save money and regret it. It's prone to having hissy fits when in ETTL mode.
I'm just about to order a 580 which will provide the best options with the 40D (although the new 430 Mk II is meant to be very good also)
Steve
I have though about the Canon 580 as I like to have a Master flash just incase i get another flash later to trigger wirless and i believe need to get the 580 to do this. Which of the sigma is the master?
I don't think the Sigma does wireless, there's nothing about it in the handbook
Steve
justinframe
03-10-2008, 21:29
go for the 580, its a great flash to have!!
Just wish it was cheaper.... The 430 is in a good price range
I've just ordered the 430 for my 40D. It'll do the job fine unless you really need the extra oomph of the 580.
Which it often is... Think about a used 420EX or 550EX first and then, later on, get a 580EX. You can use either the 420EX or 550EX as slaves for the 580EX.
As a matter of fact, I do pretty darn well with a 550EX and a 420EX slave.
I am not saying that the 430EX and 580EX flashes are not better than the older 420EX and 550EX; just that these older flash units are a viable option at a relatively low price.
rockkeeper
04-10-2008, 06:37
the sigma 500dg super and 530dg super can be both master an slave,here have a read http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/flash/flash_530super.htm
the sigma 500dg super and 530dg super can be both master an slave,here have a read http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/flash/flash_530super.htm
Ah, I don't have the "super"......
(But after my experience, I'd still go down the Canon route)
the sigma 500dg super and 530dg super can be both master an slave,here have a read http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/flash/flash_530super.htm
Hmmm... IF I had a Sigma Master or Slave can it trigger any other flash or has it got to be a sigma to pair it?
rockkeeper
04-10-2008, 09:28
well on my 500dg super, i used to use a 430 on the camera,and the super else where in the room
You sure I would of though the Super would have to be on the camera to trigger the super??? How did you do it as I can test this out today... Women Father coming with a Super and a canon 430 and we aint a clue how to do it. Please help
rockkeeper
04-10-2008, 09:33
in slave mode , seems any trigger will set it off
rockkeeper
04-10-2008, 09:35
stick canon on camera, put super on manual
And when i take a picture the 430 will set the super off wireless? This what i am trying to do as i know you can get them to set off wireless when trigger the camera..
rockkeeper
04-10-2008, 09:41
the 430 is the trigger,same as you use the on broad flash,same with sigma,
set to slave manual zoom,
inaneredstripe
04-10-2008, 15:23
580 11 if you can afford it. way better than the 430.
or 430 if you cant.
we have a 580 and two 430s.
and have a look at a certain gentleman selling on here, and on ebay. thats where we got both our 430s from. realy good price.
And this certain gentleman is Kerso I bet ;)
the 430 is the trigger,same as you use the on broad flash,same with sigma,
set to slave manual zoom,
So on the onboard Flash should be set as slave but what about the other flash that is away from the cam?
Tyrone Shoelaces
04-10-2008, 17:50
580 EX II - I got mine for less than £200 after cash back (ended) and VAT had been deducted.
Whichever one you buy, stick one of these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Flash-Diffuser-for-CANON-580EX-II-430EX-420ex-550ex-m_W0QQitemZ150300744798QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item150 300744798&_trkparms=72%3A1300|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A13 18&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14) on it.
rockkeeper
05-10-2008, 08:42
on broad one is the master ,all others would be set as slave
So would this not work if i had 2 430II????
rockkeeper
05-10-2008, 08:45
yeah if had one set as master and the others set as slave,and on same channel,
thou you have to read the instrutions if the 430II
Then why I been told to get a 580 and a 430 to do the job properly. Is it cos I can get them to tell each other what flash setting and power i want them to do???? And if I had 2 430 it wont have much option?
rockkeeper
05-10-2008, 09:09
dunno,why you been told that,
i never had two canon flashes, just the 430 and the 500 dg super
So can you get your 430 to tell the 500DG what power to use?
rockkeeper
05-10-2008, 09:16
dont think so,the 430 just trigger the other flash off,both would be set maually i guess
Ok thank you for clearing this up for me mate
I didn't think the 430 could be used as a master ??
And are you sure that the Sigma wireless system is compatible with that on the Canon ?
Steve
rockkeeper
06-10-2008, 06:15
well using the Sigma 500dg super in optical slave mode,most things will trigger it,
camera's flash-
430ex-
interfit studio trigger
430ex
Which Flash Should i get for my Canon 40D?
Canon Flash or Sigma?
430 EX
OR
430 EX II
What is the big different between them?
well using the Sigma 500dg super in optical slave mode,most things will trigger it,
camera's flash-
430ex-
interfit studio trigger
Ah, difference is, if you use a 580 as master, and a 430 as slave, you can keep ETTL (I think...)
430 EX
OR
430 EX II
What is the big different between them?
faster recycling, better locking on the camera, you can adjust the flash via the camera too.
So would this not work if i had 2 430II????
Nope 430II will only work as slave.
Only the 500 series can works as master
rockkeeper
07-10-2008, 06:10
Ah, difference is, if you use a 580 as master, and a 430 as slave, you can keep ETTL
i have no idea on the 580,
just the 430 and the sigma 500dg super
Ah, difference is, if you use a 580 as master, and a 430 as slave, you can keep ETTL (I think...)
i have no idea on the 580,
just the 430 and the sigma 500dg super
My point is/was, that using the Sigma, you have to use the 430 in manual. I have the (non-super) 500, and an old Vivitar. I use these, along with a pair optical slaves, triggered by the on board flash, in manual mode. Either that, or I use the Sigma on the hot shoe (in ETTL mode) and use the Vivitar on the slave (in manual).
I think your set up is rather similar....
Steve
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