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britco
30-11-2008, 08:59
ordered a Canon 5d mk 2 yesterday from Amazon.co.uk for £1,999 & they estimate delivery will be dec 2nd....looked on the site this morning & they are now out of stock & est 4 weeks delivery time & the price is now £2,238....my order is still on for 2nd december...hope i get it

puddleduck
30-11-2008, 09:26
Nice one, you should get it. They are flowing in the UK now (although I've not heard a peep from RGBTech regarding my order)

Let us know what you think when it arrives!

britco
30-11-2008, 09:46
fingers crossed....gotta find a decent lens now

KayJay
30-11-2008, 10:52
It went up almost £300? I wonder why that was :(

petemc
30-11-2008, 11:04
I called Play today. "Its not in stock... Yes I know that, it says... We have no further information sir... *sigh*" I ordered on the 24th Sept so theres a chance I'm high up in the queue, maybe. Just they can't say. My order has apparently been taken on their site but payment hasn't afaik.

pxl8
30-11-2008, 11:08
It went up almost £300? I wonder why that was :(

Poor exchange rate, I believe it was widely reported a couple of weeks back.

alexisonfire
30-11-2008, 11:09
I called Play today. "Its not in stock... Yes I know that, it says... We have no further information sir... *sigh*" I ordered on the 24th Sept so theres a chance I'm high up in the queue, maybe. Just they can't say. My order has apparently been taken on their site but payment hasn't afaik.

I think it would be safe to assume that the day you notice payment go out, it will arrive in 2-3 days. I would be suprised if you get one this year though. :shake:

petemc
30-11-2008, 11:11
Its hard to say. I know people who have them and they pre-ordered around the same time or later. Just depends on the shop and stock levels. Play wasn't the wisest of choices but it was £300 cheaper.

ShawWellPete
30-11-2008, 11:18
Good luck guys, It looks like a fantastic camera, I'd love to play with HD video and decent glass.

AndyBorzi
30-11-2008, 11:25
Mine is still set for 1st Dec despatch with Amazon also. Don't know why I am worried about despatch dates, I'm not allowed to open it until Christmas Day anyway! :(

petemc
30-11-2008, 11:33
Didn't you just order yours Andy? I'd be very very surprised if you got on this year.

pxl8
30-11-2008, 11:34
Mine is still set for 1st Dec despatch with Amazon also. Don't know why I am worried about despatch dates, I'm not allowed to open it until Christmas Day anyway! :(

You have to, Distance Selling Regs only give you 7 days to return the item so you need to check it the moment it arrives :thumbs: :lol:

AndyBorzi
30-11-2008, 11:35
Didn't you just order yours Andy? I'd be very very surprised if you got on this year.

Yup, only ordered Tuesday! So I am sure you are rright. As said it is a chrimbo/birthday pressie anyway. My wife will wrap a picture of one if we don't get it, so at least I will have something to unwrap on the day! :) Oh forgot I have a UDMA CF Card which I can unwrap!! :lol:

AndyBorzi
30-11-2008, 11:35
You have to, Distance Selling Regs only give you 7 days to return the item so you need to check it the moment it arrives :thumbs: :lol:

Ooohh I shall print this post off and show the wife! :thumbs:

Phate Brutus mk1
30-11-2008, 12:10
I want this camera :(

Chillimonster
30-11-2008, 12:22
Dabs still have these listed @£1889 - but have none in stock for 1-2 weeks. But it doesn't stop you ordering it at that price ;)

Volusian
30-11-2008, 14:13
Lambda tek have then under £1800 .... anyone got one from here ?

http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase29.3&prodID=B147587

blinkerz
30-11-2008, 15:11
Dam thats tempting me to buy one at that price..

fraggle101
30-11-2008, 15:36
Scratch that..

madmitch
30-11-2008, 15:41
Scratch that..

LOL

crt-d
01-12-2008, 14:40
Anyone in the UK have one in their hands yet, or on the 'list'?

AndyBorzi
01-12-2008, 15:02
on the list as it were. Amazon still says despatching today but I doubt it will happen as I only ordered on Tuesday last week!

crt-d
01-12-2008, 15:06
Last thing I heard, Amazon were quoting nothing until after 24th Dec?

AndyBorzi
01-12-2008, 15:11
i will let you know when my order gets updated!

redsnapper
01-12-2008, 15:15
Just thought I'd mention here to let you know - I should be stocking these (when they're available) but Canon aren't even telling the distributors when they will be available let alone the retailer. I suspect it will be December but who knows?.......

crt-d
01-12-2008, 15:15
I suspect many of the dates quoted on Amazon etc are going to fall behind. Jessops as I understand has the lions share of the first UK units, but their pre-orders have been overpopulated for months.

Grendel
01-12-2008, 15:15
They are in stock at Digital Rev (http://www.digitalrev.com/en/canon-eos-5d-mark-ii-316-category.html) :)

petemc
01-12-2008, 15:34
You lose your UK warranty with Digital Rev though. Lens are international I think but bodies aren't.

britco
01-12-2008, 15:34
my amazon order is still showing 2nd dec as delivery date but still not despatched as yet....i have emailed them to clarify the situation

AndyBorzi
01-12-2008, 15:37
my amazon order is still showing 2nd dec as delivery date but still not despatched as yet....i have emailed them to clarify the situation

I haven't bothered emailing but I would be interested to hear what they tell you. Though you probably won't hear until tomorrow from them.

petemc
01-12-2008, 15:38
Have they taken any money? Play have told me that they have none in stock. The CS people are basically human interfaces to their website, as in they dunno jack. "Its out of stock" which I knew because it says out of stock. I rang to get a little bit more info. Has it been in stock yet? Have orders been filled? Are they getting any soon? 3-28 days for their next delivery. Useless people. So I have no real info, no estimated delivery date or anything. Its a saving of £300 but the price of 0 info is quite high. I'd love to get it before the London meet but I guess I'd settle for before Xmas.

AndyBorzi
01-12-2008, 15:44
Don't know if they have taken money...it was my wifes credit card! ;)

Frustrating isn't it!

britco
01-12-2008, 17:22
still not been dispatched but estimated delivery is 2nd dec ??????

Bawbee
01-12-2008, 18:48
Anyone in the UK have one in their hands yet, or on the 'list'?

See here: EOS Forums (http://www.eos-forums.com/index.php?topic=24323.msg231123#msg231123)

AndyBorzi
01-12-2008, 18:51
See here: EOS Forums (http://www.eos-forums.com/index.php?topic=24323.msg231123#msg231123)

Heh, read a couple of those posts, people getting a bit het up about this camera and not having it eh?

It'll come when it comes! I'm not allowed to have mine till Chrimbo anyway! :bonk:

petemc
01-12-2008, 19:02
Lots of the other big forums have 5d2 users on now. DPReview, Fred Miranda, POTN, have test videos and photos on. People bitching on all. 5d2 vs d3, d700, 1d, 1ds, next doors box of kittens in a fluffy cuteness test. Jessops have sent out some, and I even read that someone ordered a kit from WE today and got confirmation that it would arrive tomorrow. Thats cold :(

puddleduck
01-12-2008, 19:40
Unless you are desperate Pete, I'd stick to the Play order.

Personally I expect RGBTech to come through my with my pre-order @ £1799.

The world will keep turning if I don't get it ASAP...

petemc
01-12-2008, 19:49
Frustrated more so. Play can't give me any info and its annoying. If I knew it was Jan 1st or Jan 15th or Dec 21st or Dec 5th I'd be ok. But they could cancel my order, change the price, not get any for months and not tell me... Just a bit more info :)

AndyBorzi
01-12-2008, 21:06
Just got this back from Amazon when I raised the query:

"After looking into your enquiry, I have checked your order #xxx and we are still waiting on the following item to be delivered to us by our supplier "Canon Digital SLR Camera EOS 5D Mark II".

Please note that this item is displayed on our website with the following availability message "Usually ships in 2 to 4 weeks".

When you place an order with us for a product we do not have in stock (such as products where the availability on our product detail page states that it is "Usually ships in 2 to 4 weeks""), we endeavour to source that product for you from our suppliers, and we expect to be able to dispatch your order within that time frame.

For more information on availability please click:

The availability estimate of this item have been decided on the basis of information from the suppliers, and they expect to supply them within the estimated time listed above. Each item in our catalogue has an availability estimate referring to the amount of time it usually takes for the item to arrive at our Fulfilment Centre.

However, may I assure you that we are trying to procure it from a number of suppliers and we are not limited to only one supplier for fulfilment of this item and I have passed this information to the relevant department for our company consideration.

Please be rest assured that, once we receive an item it is dispatched according to the method you specify.

We now expect to dispatch your order by the date listed in Your Account: December 17, 2008 - December 29, 2008.

When we dispatch it from our Fulfilment Centre well send you an e- mail confirming the date, contents and method of delivery."

Ah Well! :shrug:

petemc
01-12-2008, 21:12
Thats to be expected, but what about all the others who came before you? Not to rain on your um... 1 man parade :)

AndyBorzi
01-12-2008, 21:14
Thats to be expected, but what about all the others who came before you? Not to rain on your um... 1 man parade :)

Aye, wonder how many Amazon actually received from Canon?

petemc
01-12-2008, 21:20
I doubt they got a lot. Canon probably supplied the major camera stores first. It was something I considered with Play as they're hardly a major camera store. But its £300 off. Though I may get the camera by the time its £300 off a Jessops :D

AndyBorzi
01-12-2008, 21:25
You'd thought a Japanese company could get their bums in gear knowing full well the interest...oh wait Nintendo.... :)

Diego Garcia
01-12-2008, 21:27
The 5D II role out has been a disaster for Canon UK. No real UK stock. This is what I am aware of - JACOB'S had all UK delivery stock pulled by Canon as they lowered the RRP which upset Canon who advised all that the RRP should be enforced at 2299.00 thus making retailers around 18% which historically what Canon apply within the first few weeks of a cameras life. Other retailers, even pro centres got none what so ever despite pre orders.

I suspect UK stock to filter through in Jan 09.

Having played with the camera, I have to say it is lovely.:) Hope people get them sooner rather than later.

petemc
01-12-2008, 21:30
Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft all had supply issues with the launch of their latest consoles. Canon have a much smaller demand I think and probably a smaller supply line. Apple also had small numbers for the iPhone 3G. They had about 2 16gb models per store, and maybe 8 of the 8gb model on launch day. Simple fact is no-one can really supply enough of their hardware based product for the world on the same day. It worked well when it went Japan, 3-6 months later America and then 3-6 months later Europe, but we all got annoyed with the year long wait so they went global and now we're annoyed with the lack of supply.

AndyBorzi
01-12-2008, 21:32
Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft all had supply issues with the launch of their latest consoles. Canon have a much smaller demand I think and probably a smaller supply line. Apple also had small numbers for the iPhone 3G. They had about 2 16gb models per store, and maybe 8 of the 8gb model on launch day. Simple fact is no-one can really supply enough of their hardware based product for the world on the same day. It worked well when it went Japan, 3-6 months later America and then 3-6 months later Europe, but we all got annoyed with the year long wait so they went global and now we're annoyed with the lack of supply.

I guess this is the price you pay for wanting their products on or near release dates!

puddleduck
01-12-2008, 21:36
AFAIK the only company who got any significant numbers were Jessops.

Personally I think we'll be lucky to see anything this side of Christmas. Wish I'd seen the Amazon price at £1999 as I get 5% Amex cashback which woud've taken a nice £150 off!

petemc
01-12-2008, 21:39
I guess this is the price you pay for wanting their products on or near release dates!

Yup. "Why do they get it before us? Its not fair." Now its "Why don't the shops have any?"

britco
02-12-2008, 12:03
phoned amazon today & they said they were waiting for my payment to be validated???

i asked them if they actually had these cameras in stock & they said yes but 2-4 weeks delivery time....can you smell something?

puddleduck
02-12-2008, 12:08
Yes... a bit like fish.

Amazon.de had them for about £1900 but they don't ship here - I tried :(

petemc
02-12-2008, 12:09
Yer thats odd.

britco
02-12-2008, 12:13
i told the woman that i talked to that when i made the order there were 2 cameras available one was with amazon & another with some other shop & i asked her if i had been allocated one of these ...she said i have been & when my payment has been verified one will be dispatched to me by next day delivery.....don't know what to think really

britco
02-12-2008, 15:35
they are now estimating my delivery date as 19th to 29th december....in stock they say but that is my delivery estimate now so will wait & see....still got it at £1,999 though & payment is taken when dispatched

spoke to my local Jacobs store & they have 13 people on the waiting list & have had 3 cameras delivered & dont expect any more till new year

canon_togger
02-12-2008, 15:56
My amazon order still says dec 2 - dec 3 but obviously its not going to happen anytime soon.
Incidentally, if you go back into your order and apply LOWERVAT in the gift code box you will save £42 as the 15% vat rate will be applied.

Splog
02-12-2008, 16:39
RGB Tech have this on their website if it helps :shrug:

Hi ALL

SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT CAMERAS ARE NOW SHIPPING.
THE REAL PROBLEM IS, HOW MANY!?
THE ANSWER IS VERY LITTLE. WE ARE NOT EXPECTING ANY MORE THAT 2 OR 3 ON THE FIRST BATCH, AND TO BE HONEST, I PERSONALLY DID NOT EXPECT ANY MORE.
I KNOW IT IS DIFICULT, BUT DUE TO THE HUGE DEMAND FOR US TO SUPPLY THIS PRODUCT, THE EARLIEST WE EXPECT ANY REAL VOLUME OF STOCK IS NEXT YEAR. AND EVEN THEN, IT COULD TAKE CANON A LONG TIME TO CATCH UP WITH DEMAND.

I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND, WE DO NOT WANT TO LET PEOPLE DOWN OR GIVE FALSE HOPE.

THANK YOU

GRAEME DEWING
MD

puddleduck
02-12-2008, 16:46
Yeah, I've got my pre-order with them.

Realistically I don't hold out much hope of getting at that price tbh, not suprised they've been flooded.

They had a very low price on the Nikon D700 back in July (£300 cheaper than anyone else on Day1) and they only got 10 in that day (I was one of the ten).

Don't think lightning will strike twice for me again though!

petemc
02-12-2008, 16:59
I missed out on RGBTech. It went from "Register interest" to "Sold out". I wasn't offered the pre-order chance. I'm going to assume that Play are also getting around 2 or so. A long way from what Calumet said last week. 130 pre-orders and they were hoping for 200, just at the Liverpool store afaik.

pearce_jj
02-12-2008, 19:37
The 5D II role out has been a disaster for Canon UK. No real UK stock. This is what I am aware of - JACOB'S had all UK delivery stock pulled by Canon as they lowered the RRP which upset Canon who advised all that the RRP should be enforced at 2299.00 thus making retailers around 18% which historically what Canon apply within the first few weeks of a cameras life. Other retailers, even pro centres got none what so ever despite pre orders..

Do you have any basis for this statement? As it's clearly not in the consumers interests and, in my view, illegal to pull stock on that basis except for clearly defined exceptions (perfume etc).

rdh
03-12-2008, 08:20
RGB Tech have this on their website if it helps :shrug:

Hi ALL

SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT CAMERAS ARE NOW SHIPPING.
THE REAL PROBLEM IS, HOW MANY!?
THE ANSWER IS VERY LITTLE. WE ARE NOT EXPECTING ANY MORE THAT 2 OR 3 ON THE FIRST BATCH, AND TO BE HONEST, I PERSONALLY DID NOT EXPECT ANY MORE.
I KNOW IT IS DIFICULT, BUT DUE TO THE HUGE DEMAND FOR US TO SUPPLY THIS PRODUCT, THE EARLIEST WE EXPECT ANY REAL VOLUME OF STOCK IS NEXT YEAR. AND EVEN THEN, IT COULD TAKE CANON A LONG TIME TO CATCH UP WITH DEMAND.

I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND, WE DO NOT WANT TO LET PEOPLE DOWN OR GIVE FALSE HOPE.

THANK YOU

GRAEME DEWING
MD

Slightly off topic, but that kind of English/grammar coming from an MD, posted on an official store website (and in caps no less), is rather odd. Must applaud his honestly of course :¬)

puddleduck
03-12-2008, 08:25
It does look remarkably unprofessional doesn't it?!

pearce_jj
03-12-2008, 08:35
going for the 'personal' touch maybe - credit to them I say being straight up about it.

petemc
03-12-2008, 09:52
Much nicer than "Not in stock"

rh1944
03-12-2008, 10:07
Anyone know whether this camera is any good? It's a whole load of expectation at the moment. None of the magazines I picked up in Tesco today had a review.

petemc
03-12-2008, 10:25
Any good? If you don't know why its any good before the reviews are out then its probably not for you. Canon and Nikon don't really make bad cameras. You buy the one with the features you need or want and off you go. I'd suggest you go back to that thread and read it, and then look at whats out and what features you need. Do you need iso25,600? Do you need 1080p video? 3.9fps? Full frame? 21mp? I mean seriously, do you need 21mp? ...EDITED...

Kev M
03-12-2008, 10:30
There was something on the News a couple of weeks back on how there was going to be a shortage of Nintendo Wii's again this christmas and they've been out for yonks. The reason being is the exchange rate was more favouable for the dollar so a lot of the european allocation was being sent to the US. I wonder if Canon are doing the same thing?

puddleduck
03-12-2008, 10:33
Anyone know whether this camera is any good? It's a whole load of expectation at the moment. None of the magazines I picked up in Tesco today had a review.

I don't need a magazine to tell me if a camera is good or not.

Seriously, if you rely on magazines in Tesco, you are at the D40 / Canon 400D, Sony A200 end of the market.

I don't mean any dis-respect here.

petemc
03-12-2008, 10:34
It could be that America is bigger too? :)

WeddingHack
03-12-2008, 10:51
Anyone know whether this camera is any good? It's a whole load of expectation at the moment. None of the magazines I picked up in Tesco today had a review.

I picked one up yesterday - last kit in the shop and they were kind enough to break it down to a body only.

Took it out for a spin last night to test the high ISO - some full res pics here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/32973284@N05/sets/72157610678508740/detail/). It ain't art, my purpose was to test the ISO performance.

AF seems quicker, better than the 5D, including the outher points. High ISO is pretty incredible IMHO, especially when you consider the files it's chucking out are 18x12 inches @ 300dpi.

Duncan

CT
03-12-2008, 10:51
Anyone know whether this camera is any good? It's a whole load of expectation at the moment. None of the magazines I picked up in Tesco today had a review.

Good? It's going to be the best all round camera which Canon have produced, with the exception of the 1DSMK3, but at a fraction of the price. It will produce poster sized images without breaking sweat, and images right out of the camera in excess of stock library minimum file sizes.

Used for wildlife, it will be only just behind the 40D in the cropping stakes, which is actually damned good. I'd best not mention the video capability. :D

I can't honestly say I need one, but for those who do, it's a no brainer. ;)

Kev M
03-12-2008, 10:53
That should already have been accounted for when theywere deciding how many unitsgo to each region but given the current financial situation it makes sense for them to send the majority of units to the area where they'll get the biggest return in th short term.

rdh
03-12-2008, 11:01
I picked one up yesterday - last kit in the shop and they were kind enough to break it down to a body only.

Took it out for a spin last night to test the high ISO - some full res pics here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/32973284@N05/sets/72157610678508740/detail/). It ain't art, my purpose was to test the ISO performance.

AF seems quicker, better than the 5D, including the outher points. High ISO is pretty incredible IMHO, especially when you consider the files it's chucking out are 18x12 inches @ 300dpi.

Duncan

Thanks for sharing. Do you have any 100% crops? Hard to see the noise levels at these small scales!

WeddingHack
03-12-2008, 11:01
the full res files are there, click the magnifying glass

petemc
03-12-2008, 11:03
I picked one up yesterday - last kit in the shop and they were kind enough to break it down to a body only.

:o Really? I've heard that no-one is doing that for some crazy reason and that there are more kit er... kits being shipped by Canon.

puddleduck
03-12-2008, 11:05
the full res files are there, click the magnifying glass

Thanks, it certainly holds up pretty well up to about ISO3200.

The camera is doing some pretty heavy chroma NR (bit water-coloury for my liking), but it looks pretty good, and should print VERY well.

WeddingHack
03-12-2008, 11:06
:o Really? I've heard that no-one is doing that for some crazy reason and that there are more kit er... kits being shipped by Canon.

Yep, it's a small independent and I've got to know them, didn't seem like they were doing me a big favour or anything.

WeddingHack
03-12-2008, 11:09
Thanks, it certainly holds up pretty well up to about ISO3200.

The camera is doing some pretty heavy chroma NR (bit water-coloury for my liking), but it looks pretty good, and should print VERY well.

TBH i'm not sure if that was the camera or DPP, which I've not used before thank god. Will know more when I get C1 Pro setup to read the files.

puddleduck
03-12-2008, 11:10
Actually stores can usually make a bit extra by breaking a kit, especially with a desirable lens.

rdh
03-12-2008, 11:32
the full res files are there, click the magnifying glass

Ah yes thanks, looks good. Nice bokeh, looks like the work of an 85/1.2L :¬)

Which independent shop was it by the way?

WeddingHack
03-12-2008, 11:35
Ah yes thanks, looks good. Nice bokeh, looks like the work of an 84/1.2L :¬)

Which independent shop was it by the way?

Norfolk Camera Centre in Dereham. I used an 85 1.2 and 135 2.0, and a fisheye of course.

rdh
03-12-2008, 11:43
Norfolk Camera Centre in Dereham. I used an 85 1.2 and 135 2.0, and a fisheye of course.

Awesome lenses. Thanks again.

britco
03-12-2008, 14:38
this camera is the dogs wobbly bits
i have just placed another order for one & he has promised delivery for next week...we shall see

jerry12953
03-12-2008, 17:00
Any good? If you don't know why its any good before the reviews are out then its probably not for you. Canon and Nikon don't really make bad cameras. You buy the one with the features you need or want and off you go. I'd suggest you go back to that thread and read it, and then look at whats out and what features you need. Do you need iso25,600? Do you need 1080p video? 3.9fps? Full frame? 21mp? I mean seriously, do you need 21mp? ...EDITED...

I thought one of the earlier top-of-the range Canon's suffered from major problems when it first came out? It's not such a stupid question at all.:shake:

jerry12953
03-12-2008, 17:02
I don't mean any dis-respect here.

:suspect:

andrewc
03-12-2008, 17:03
Norfolk Camera Centre in Dereham. I used an 85 1.2 and 135 2.0, and a fisheye of course.

They're good. I had my TC repaired by them.

petemc
03-12-2008, 17:13
I thought one of the earlier top-of-the range Canon's suffered from major problems when it first came out? It's not such a stupid question at all.:shake:

Yes the 1Dm3 had focus issues which was fixed. Is there a chance its not a good camera, yes of course but its very remote imho. But he asked if it was any good. Any good for what? Any good at sports? Any good in low light? Any good in the real world? Any good on paper? Any good for...? IMHO ...Edited...

hypnotic
03-12-2008, 18:35
I'm 6ft5. Most people be little :p

I genuinely found that last remark to be quite funny .... :lol:

Just a shame your other posts in this thread were not in the same vane.

britco
03-12-2008, 18:36
my 5d mk2 has been dispatched apparently coming by DHL standard delivery 3-5 days so may have it by saturday i hope.....im itching

Marcel
03-12-2008, 18:37
Thread cleaned ;)

Pete and russ....ignore each other.... :)

canon_togger
03-12-2008, 18:38
my 5d mk2 has been dispatched apparently coming by DHL standard delivery 3-5 days so may have it by saturday i hope.....im itching

Who is that from?

petemc
03-12-2008, 18:45
I genuinely found that last remark to be quite funny .... :lol:

Just a shame your other posts in this thread were not in the same vane.

Yer my others were me trying to help, really shouldn't do that. Some were even discussing a camera I bought. Man, I'm such a moron for thinking this thread was a good place to discuss it.

Thread cleaned ;)

Pete and russ....ignore each other.... :)

FFS. I'm sorry but I am genuinely trying to help someone who doesn't seem to have a clue of what camera he wants. Of course its going to get personal when I'm talking to a sole person. I asked him some questions... *sigh* Yes its a good camera, just like the 50mp Hassleblad is a good camera and just as the Canon Ixus is a good camera. Buy them all as they're good cameras and well thats what the guy wanted.

Marcel
03-12-2008, 19:15
FFS. I'm sorry but I am genuinely trying to help someone who doesn't seem to have a clue of what camera he wants.

I fully understand your intentions (and agree with them)....but we both know where the thread will end up. Russ will reply to you in a way that makes no sense to you, you'll end up replying sarcastically while banging your head in frustration on a brick wall, and we have to come back in to calm the waters....so it's best to not to even go there ;)

petemc
03-12-2008, 19:18
Fair enough :)

canon_togger
03-12-2008, 19:22
Amazon have dropped the price to £1895.85, but still saying 2-4 weeks

petemc
03-12-2008, 19:25
Wha? Those harpies. Why are they dropping the price on something no-one can barely stock? Thats only going to cause more people to pre-order and get annoyed with delayed shipments.

AndyBorzi
03-12-2008, 19:32
Amazon have dropped the price to £1895.85, but still saying 2-4 weeks

Presumably then the pre-order I have originally at £1999 will be reduced to £1895? My order with them shows as delivery estimate 18-29 Dec.

I placed another pre-order with someone else who has had assurance they will have a delivery by the 15th and they will get one to me by the 16th! (£1925) but one never knows with Canon eh?!

I agree with Pete though, they will be deluged by new-orders. Why not just take it off until stocks start coming through. :shrug:

petemc
03-12-2008, 19:38
Boooo :p

AndyBorzi
03-12-2008, 19:41
Boooo :p

:lol: I'm determined to have something to open on Christmas Day!

petemc
03-12-2008, 19:44
Download the manual and put a bow on it :p

AndyBorzi
03-12-2008, 19:50
Download the manual and put a bow on it :p

My wife was going to print a copy of the official canon spec on their website and wrap that! :)

puddleduck
04-12-2008, 07:19
For those who care this chap has compared a Canon 5D MKII (10 megapixel sRAW vs a D700) at high ISO.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=30227337

I'm not totally convinced that using a pixel-binned sRAW is apples-to-apples but its interesting.

Chillimonster
06-12-2008, 14:07
Looks like possible image issues with black dots around bright highlights.

Make of it what you will

http://photo.net/canon-eos-digital-camera-forum/00RewZ

(Link sourced from another forum, but lots of other info around on this)

puddleduck
06-12-2008, 14:40
I managed to get an order in with Amazon.co.uk for £1889 (gone up again soon)

Still no sign of anything from RGBTech.

britco
06-12-2008, 15:02
had an Email informing me that mine is being dispatched on monday & i should have it in my sweaty little mits by thursday....payment has been taken off my card so i can only assume it will be here next week

CT
06-12-2008, 15:35
Looks like possible image issues with black dots around bright highlights.

Make of it what you will

http://photo.net/canon-eos-digital-camera-forum/00RewZ

(Link sourced from another forum, but lots of other info around on this)

LOL. Here we go again. Actually there is clearly an issue - black dots adjacent to bright points of light which seems to get worse as the ISO increases. You need to download the full file to see it best and it took about 10 minutes on my 20mb connection.

Possibly a firmware fix I'd imagine, but Canon do seem to like shooting themselves in the foot.

Chillimonster
06-12-2008, 16:00
LOL. Here we go again.

I'm only passing on information that i found.

If what i am reading is correct it is a hardware (Sensor) issue, but they may be able to filter the effects out with PP in camera :shrug:

CT
06-12-2008, 16:14
I'm only passing on information that i found.

If what i am reading is correct it is a hardware (Sensor) issue, but they may be able to filter the effects out with PP in camera :shrug:

Quite right too, I'd want to know about it if I was in the market for one, although I don't think I'd be unduly concerned at this early stage.

Pete W
06-12-2008, 16:57
Still no sign of anything from RGBTech.

This is on RGB tech site when you click the 5D MKII

04/12/08
HI ALL

SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT CAMERAS ARE NOW SHIPPING AND AMOUNTS ARE VERY SMALL.

CANON ARE NOT GIVING ANY INDICATION OF AVAILABILITY, AND AS SUCH WE DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEAS WHEN CAMERAS WILL ARRIVE.
I KNOW IT IS DIFICULT, BUT DUE TO THE HUGE DEMAND FOR US TO SUPPLY THIS PRODUCT, THE EARLIEST WE EXPECT ANY REAL VOLUME OF STOCK IS NEXT YEAR. AND EVEN THEN, IT COULD TAKE CANON A LONG TIME TO CATCH UP WITH DEMAND.

I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND, WE DO NOT WANT TO LET PEOPLE DOWN OR GIVE FALSE HOPE.

THANK YOU

GRAEME DEWING
MD

pxl8
06-12-2008, 17:57
I'm only passing on information that i found.

If what i am reading is correct it is a hardware (Sensor) issue, but they may be able to filter the effects out with PP in camera :shrug:

It looks like a classic case of a rounding error gone wrong to me which may or may not be easy to solve. If it's in the firmware then it should be a simple fix, if it's in the hardware then it might be tricky to solve with a filter without also getting false positives :(

Cold comfort I know but the problem does seem limited to small over-exposed areas so the impact on a wedding/portrait/landscape tog would be minimal.

britco
07-12-2008, 17:27
they are starting to appear on Ebay now....item number 110322142690

petemc
07-12-2008, 17:33
You mean that (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110322142690&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2F%3F_from%3D R40%26_trksid%3Dm38.l1313%26_nkw%3D110322142690%26 _sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1). Still £150 over Play and I'd prefer to buy from a company I imagine will be around in 12 months.

rdh
08-12-2008, 14:23
Looks like possible image issues with black dots around bright highlights.

Make of it what you will

http://photo.net/canon-eos-digital-camera-forum/00RewZ

(Link sourced from another forum, but lots of other info around on this)

Blimey - that's a serious problem. If that can't be fixed quickly with a firmware update Canon have made an awful mistake.

pxl8
08-12-2008, 15:07
An update on the black dots, it looks like it's a s/w problem that can't be fixed by turn off a couple of features:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=30276248

WeddingHack
08-12-2008, 15:13
I haven't seen it on any of my images yet, but looking pxl8's info looks like it'll be fixed in firmware fairly easily.

puddleduck
08-12-2008, 15:18
Having seen a few issues from various camera (Nikon D70s moire, D200 banding, D700 high ISO banding) this doesn't bother me at all. Certainly no plans to cancel my pre-order.

I imagine most RAW converters will simply map out these dots, as they do hot pixels right now.

britco
09-12-2008, 15:07
well this friday is the day...being delivered by DHL i have been promised

petemc
09-12-2008, 15:18
Well, I cancelled my pre-order. Haha! Thats right Canon!

Chillimonster
09-12-2008, 15:20
Well, I cancelled my pre-order. Haha! Thats right Canon!

Still gonna get one - or switching sides?

Tyrone Shoelaces
09-12-2008, 15:25
Having seen a few issues from various camera (Nikon D70s moire, D200 banding, D700 high ISO banding) this doesn't bother me at all

I agree, if that's all that's 'wrong' with the MK2 I'm still in, although I'm also still waiting for the price to drop a bit.

A 'flawless' digital camera from any brand is the very definition of vapourware.

canon_togger
09-12-2008, 15:59
well this friday is the day...being delivered by DHL i have been promised

Mine too, hopefully!!
Think you might have ordered from same mob as me ;)

canon_togger
11-12-2008, 17:54
Mine now been changed to tuesday delivery instead of tomorrow :thumbsdown:
I'm gonna cancel if this gets changed again.

rh1944
11-12-2008, 18:12
I don't need a magazine to tell me if a camera is good or not.

Seriously, if you rely on magazines in Tesco, you are at the D40 / Canon 400D, Sony A200 end of the market.

I don't mean any dis-respect here.

I don't rely on magazines in Tesco; does your problem involve reading, magazines. Tesco or all or part of the above? There are no reviews of this camera in the magazines, there are no reviews of this camera on the internet. That probably means there are very few production units of this camera. The only examples that exist of its output are moving pictures. Why no stills? There seems to be something wrong. It may get fixed.

malla1962
11-12-2008, 19:21
I have no interest in this camera but the 1080p vids look very interesting.
http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=2326

Bawbee
11-12-2008, 19:22
I don't rely on magazines in Tesco; does your problem involve reading, magazines. Tesco or all or part of the above? There are no reviews of this camera in the magazines, there are no reviews of this camera on the internet. That probably means there are very few production units of this camera. The only examples that exist of its output are moving pictures. Why no stills? There seems to be something wrong. It may get fixed.

There's an image here for your consideration: EOS Forums (http://www.eos-forums.com/index.php?topic=24323.msg232466#msg232466)

britco
11-12-2008, 19:34
im tracking my canon 5d mk2 being delivered by DHL....its just arrived at the east midlands distribution depot for delivery tomorrow.

canon_togger
11-12-2008, 19:37
im tracking my canon 5d mk2 being delivered by DHL....its just arrived at the east midlands distribution depot for delivery tomorrow.

You're lucky, mine isnt :shake:
I have a bad feeling about not getting mine for Christmas.

britco
11-12-2008, 19:42
im just hoping it arrives in good shape...i hate these parcel carriers as they are not too carefull with the packages at depots

canon_togger
11-12-2008, 19:44
im just hoping it arrives in good shape...i hate these parcel carriers as they are not too carefull with the packages at depots

Do you mind sharing who you are purchasing from?
(pm if you'd rather)

britco
11-12-2008, 19:47
Bentonville Mall via Amazon.co.uk

canon_togger
11-12-2008, 19:53
Bentonville Mall via Amazon.co.uk

I've ordered from bentonvillemall website.
Got an email today saying mine would now be sent friday for delivery tuesday.
I threatened to cancel, but will wait to see if he does actually send it tomorrow.

The fact that yours is on the way gives me some hope.
Please post here tomorrow to let us know if it arrives safe and sound :)

britco
11-12-2008, 19:56
they sent me a tracking DHL number today & im tracking it now so it must be on its way

Bawbee
11-12-2008, 19:57
Anyone heard of this company? Richard Frankfurt (http://www.richardfrankfurt.co.uk/index.php?productID=3758)

canon_togger
11-12-2008, 19:58
they sent me a tracking DHL number today & im tracking it now so it must be on its way

Unless its someone elses :eek:

britco
11-12-2008, 20:02
i think they know me by now i have been in constant touch since i ordered it via Email

canon_togger
11-12-2008, 20:04
i think they know me by now i have been in constant touch since i ordered it via Email

I do hope it works out for you...and me too of course :D

britco
11-12-2008, 20:05
i will post on here as soon as i recieve it...fingers crossed

petemc
11-12-2008, 20:06
I don't rely on magazines in Tesco; does your problem involve reading, magazines. Tesco or all or part of the above? There are no reviews of this camera in the magazines, there are no reviews of this camera on the internet. That probably means there are very few production units of this camera. The only examples that exist of its output are moving pictures. Why no stills? There seems to be something wrong. It may get fixed.

I think its the fact that Tesco are only likely to stock a few camera mags and the ones that sell will be consumer ones. They may do a 5d2 test but it won't be as good as one of the more specialist mags. Oh and there are plenty of images around from it. Its how people know about the black spots issue.

fraggle101
11-12-2008, 20:07
There are no reviews of this camera in the magazines, there are no reviews of this camera on the internet. That probably means there are very few production units of this camera. The only examples that exist of its output are moving pictures. Why no stills? There seems to be something wrong. It may get fixed.

Cough! Hello (http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos5dmarkII/)

And there is a drop down menu to the images.. :thumbs:

canon_togger
11-12-2008, 20:07
i will post on here as soon as i recieve it...fingers crossed

Cheers mate :thumbs:

AndyBorzi
11-12-2008, 20:09
I have a question about the AF Microadjustment thing. Does it only work on Canon or will it work on Sigma/Tamron etc?

Does it correct back/front focus issues with lenses?

CT
11-12-2008, 21:52
I have a question about the AF Microadjustment thing. Does it only work on Canon or will it work on Sigma/Tamron etc?

Does it correct back/front focus issues with lenses?
Assuming it's much the same as the 50D, then yes - the whole idea is to correct slight front or back focus position, up to 20 + or - steps. You can register calibration changes for up to 20 lenses. The manual says any lens and doesn't specify Canon lenses particularly.

fraggle101
11-12-2008, 22:03
i was under the impression it was Canon only!

CT
11-12-2008, 22:09
Anyone know for sure? :shrug:

pxl8
11-12-2008, 22:14
I'm fairly certain it works with 3rd party lenses, the settings stored are just based on the ID the lens reports itself as, probably the same reason why you can't store different settings for 2 copies of the same lens. Of course I don't have a 3rd party lens to test with but I think if it didn't work it would have been well documented by now.

AndyBorzi
12-12-2008, 10:56
Assuming it's much the same as the 50D, then yes - the whole idea is to correct slight front or back focus position, up to 20 + or - steps. You can register calibration changes for up to 20 lenses. The manual says any lens and doesn't specify Canon lenses particularly.

Thanks for that. :)

britco
12-12-2008, 12:47
IT'S HERE....just arrived via DHL took a few pics of it fitted with my 50mm 1.4 prime ....crappy iphone pictures but you can make them out....just gotta wait for the battery to charge now

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/3101825517_d5f5bebfa7.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/3101825687_aeddf2658a.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/3101825969_8214251f89.jpg

andrewc
12-12-2008, 12:59
Its nice to see that they now put the model name on the next strap, so thieves and muggers can choose their next victim easily.

englandshottest2
12-12-2008, 13:04
almost bought one from a supplier in the far east, would have been kewl to have it first :D, alas £££ well ran dry. i would hate to have bought one on order though!

petemc
12-12-2008, 13:06
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/3101825969_8214251f89.jpg

Shouldn't the name be silver?

britco
12-12-2008, 13:31
it is silver...the iphone did'nt pick it up & its very gloomy weather where i am

petemc
12-12-2008, 13:33
Where its says 5D and Mark II, they look black.

fraggle101
12-12-2008, 13:34
Woohoo!! it really does exist!!! lol.. im gonna start going to church! ;)

Raymond Lin
12-12-2008, 13:59
It looks very plastic....

MJ Stebbings
12-12-2008, 13:59
Where its says 5D and Mark II, they look black.

Thats what i thought :thinking:

WeddingHack
12-12-2008, 14:11
It's because they're shiny silver like a mirror, not just silver paint. If the camera is angled at something dark, they look dark.

I can't believe I just spent the time to check that out ...

fraggle101
12-12-2008, 14:19
WHAT!! another one that has one!!! i thought these were an urban legend!! now everyones got one!!!

Right.. im off to Lock Ness.. :exit: WITH my most blury camera of course!! :thumbs:

britco
12-12-2008, 14:25
those pictures were taken with an iphone the quality is junk...i can tell you its far from plastic feels very substantial in the hand with a rubberized grip & the 5D MARK11 LOGOS are bright silver

canon_togger
12-12-2008, 16:00
those pictures were taken with an iphone the quality is junk...i can tell you its far from plastic feels very substantial in the hand with a rubberized grip & the 5D MARK11 LOGOS are bright silver

Pleased to see you got yours today :D
Everything ok with it I hope?

I now have a DHL tracking no. for mine, so fair play to the guy he wasnt talking bull :thumbs:

britco
12-12-2008, 16:45
you will get it if you have a number....i love it to bits already but its too dark to have a play now...just shot a bit of video with it & it looks very very good

canon_togger
12-12-2008, 17:42
you will get it if you have a number....i love it to bits already but its too dark to have a play now...just shot a bit of video with it & it looks very very good

I cant wait to get my hands on mine.
Thanks for the info/feedback :thumbs:

fraggle101
12-12-2008, 18:51
Is there anywhere thats got these in stock??

i fancy selling my MkI and getting one..:woot:

britco
12-12-2008, 22:13
playing around with the new toy
heres a very quick shot of a christmas under a lamp with an 11w bulb the only lightsource
colour is a tad strong but not far out still playing with the setup of the camera

iso 2500
1/80sec shutter
7.1 aperture
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3173/3103664840_a23a4be037_o.jpg

petemc
12-12-2008, 22:14
White balance is off :p Should have gone Nikon ;)

britco
12-12-2008, 22:17
its an 11w energy saving bulb & thats pretty much how it looks in real life

petemc
12-12-2008, 22:18
I'm just yankin your crank. :)

britco
12-12-2008, 22:20
i know
im gonna have a lot of fun with this camera

CT
12-12-2008, 22:50
You still need to set the correct wb in the camera - even with the 5DMK2. ;)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3054/3102898183_e1efc62cc7_o.jpg

petemc
12-12-2008, 22:52
See now I know I was only joking n all and I know you were using an orange light but thats a much nicer photo.

Jimmy_Lemon
12-12-2008, 23:03
http://jlproductions.co.uk/grab/2008-12-13_000109.jpg

I was a bit bored, and that is the closest I am gonna to get to processing a 5DmkII shot in a long time :(

fraggle101
12-12-2008, 23:20
Not bad for 2500 ISO!!!

britco
13-12-2008, 08:24
that is a lot better...the one i posted is a jpeg max quality slightly cropped & reduced in size
the canon software you get with the camera is a bit basic & you can't do a lot with it but my copy of Aperture won't open the raw files from this camera ....Aperture 2.2 is coming out soon & will support the 5d2 hopefully

whiteflyer
13-12-2008, 12:29
I don't rely on magazines in Tesco; does your problem involve reading, magazines. Tesco or all or part of the above? There are no reviews of this camera in the magazines, there are no reviews of this camera on the internet. That probably means there are very few production units of this camera. The only examples that exist of its output are moving pictures. Why no stills? There seems to be something wrong. It may get fixed.

I think its the fact that Tesco are only likely to stock a few camera mags and the ones that sell will be consumer ones. They may do a 5d2 test but it won't be as good as one of the more specialist mags. Oh and there are plenty of images around from it. Its how people know about the black spots issue.

Does the black spot problem not justify Russell's original post asking is this camera any good. At the time he posted there were very few if any photos being show that had been taken with the 5DII and now with in days of being available to the public in large amounts we have found the first IQ problem. It's has now become apart that yet again Canon has launched a new Camera with severe problems.

It's not surprising Nikon are increasing market share.

petemc
13-12-2008, 12:39
The post you quoted was 2 days ago. He was asking why there were no stills 2 days ago. 2 days ago there were plenty of images around. Maybe not on TP but many on other forums. A week ago there were plenty around and the black spots issue had just come to light. The black spots isn't a severe issue unless you pixel peep.

whiteflyer
13-12-2008, 12:53
Yes the photos are rubbish, but no need to pixel peep

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/3088344680_a8b07f0887_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3016/3088344754_2fb80b8c2b_o.jpg

petemc
13-12-2008, 12:57
Are they 100% crops?

GEH007
13-12-2008, 13:08
Blimey!

whiteflyer
13-12-2008, 13:19
I just copied them from the web, but a £2000+ camera from the top manufacture should not have such problems at all. After the 1dIII AF cock-up you would have thought they would have made sure there was no problems with the 5DII.

Maybe when trailing per-release models they should not only send them to the top pro togs who know what they are doing, but let a couple of less experienced togs have ago.

IF they can't get this fix very very quickly, Canons reputation is going to be dented again.


Now there is also a video with black dot, but I kind of think this is a hoax

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mFaZXYhHrUI

petemc
13-12-2008, 13:23
Yer but are they 100% crops or not? They look like 100% which was my point about pixel peeping.

Have a look at this (http://flickr.com/photos/cocoip/3085037718/sizes/o/). Looks fine to me.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/3085037718_a193697c6c.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/cocoip/3085037718/)

CT
13-12-2008, 13:35
Yer but are they 100% crops or not? They look like 100% which was my point about pixel peeping.

Have a look at this (http://flickr.com/photos/cocoip/3085037718/sizes/o/). Looks fine to me.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/3085037718_a193697c6c.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/cocoip/3085037718/)

Even the large version of that image is only 1200 pixels Pete, and I doubt the dots would show at that size.

To be fair , Canon have already said they have any easy fix for this, but it's really not good enough for a camera being launched on the market and supposedly exhaustively tested.

petemc
13-12-2008, 13:38
Even the large version of that image is only 1200 pixels Pete, and I doubt the dots would show at that size.

I know. I just wanted to show that the camera takes good images and its only if you pixel peep that you see them. I wanted to get in there and remind people of this before the doom and gloomers turned up going "Oh noes its so bad, its so bad"

EdinburghGary
13-12-2008, 13:42
The black dots issue has been "fixed". It was a combination of noise reduction settings, the default combo. Switch some noise reduction stuff off, problem solved.

Its a decent work around until they sort it properly.

Good camera IMO.

Gary.

CT
13-12-2008, 13:42
LOL. It's true Pete, but it's such a shame they've been given the ammo. ;)

petemc
13-12-2008, 13:45
LOL. It's true, but it's such a shame they've been given the ammo. ;)

Aye for sure. I should be laughing like a girl now I'm a Nikon guy but the issue is only there if you look. People should remember just how good it is.

CT
13-12-2008, 13:51
Aye for sure. I should be laughing like a girl now I'm a Nikon guy but the issue is only there if you look. People should remember just how good it is.

Indeed! All manufacturers have their issues with cameras from time to time anyway, it's just a shame that Canon are having their share at the moment. It certainly wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if I was in the market for a 5DMK2 anyway.

canon_togger
13-12-2008, 15:51
you will get it if you have a number....i love it to bits already but its too dark to have a play now...just shot a bit of video with it & it looks very very good

My DHL tracker hasnt changed since yesterday morning, still showing as east midlands :suspect:

britco
13-12-2008, 16:17
sounds as though it's at the main depot..probably the airport as my camera came from Asia...then i think it gets moved on to a local sorting depot then on to the van/lorry & to your door where mine arrived around 1.30pm....you will have it tuesday

canon_togger
13-12-2008, 16:19
sounds as though it's at the main depot..probably the airport as my camera came from Asia...then i think it gets moved on to a local sorting depot then on to the van/lorry & to your door where mine arrived around 1.30pm....you will have it tuesday

Hmm okay.
I wont panic just yet then :bonk:

fraggle101
13-12-2008, 22:09
OK, any updates on who has stock and best prices??

britco
14-12-2008, 11:19
i have uploaded a photo i shot this morning of the high street just outside my house...it's avery cold bleak morning here but it will give you some idea of the level of detail this camera is capable of...walks all over my d300 thats for sure
its a 28mb RAW file on Rapidshare
http://rapidshare.com/files/173243330/IMG_0151.CR2

canon_togger
14-12-2008, 14:04
i have uploaded a photo i shot this morning of the high street just outside my house...it's avery cold bleak morning here but it will give you some idea of the level of detail this camera is capable of...walks all over my d300 thats for sure
its a 28mb RAW file on Rapidshare
http://rapidshare.com/files/173243330/IMG_0151.CR2

Yep, that is one big detailed image. Cant wait to try mine out.

I wish it was tuesday already, or even tomorrow, so that I could see my camera actually making progress on its journey towards me.

britco
14-12-2008, 14:09
im still getting used to this camera in aperture priority mode but im getting there slowly

canon_togger
14-12-2008, 14:11
im still getting used to this camera in aperture priority mode but im getting there slowly

Yes it will take some getting used to I'm sure.
I'm sure you're having loads of fun though ;)

britco
14-12-2008, 14:43
you may not see any movement on your delivery until tuesday morning canon_togger but you will get it tuesday if Bentonville gave you that day for delivery

iansmart
14-12-2008, 16:29
Blooming eck, that took an age to download then I had to update DPP and Canon Raw and Adobe Camera Raw to see it properly. Still, it contains a whole lot of detail and is certainly making me think seriously about a 5D MkII when my Christmas bonus gets paid.

britco
14-12-2008, 17:23
be even better when the sun returns...weather was very murky when i took that shot

canon_togger
15-12-2008, 18:07
Well tomorrow is delivery day.....hopefully :whistling:

englandshottest2
15-12-2008, 22:04
does anybody know what suppliers have stock?

petemc
15-12-2008, 22:07
does anybody know what suppliers have stock?

None I assume.

englandshottest2
16-12-2008, 10:24
ahh, there's some on ebay saying they do have stock

Radiohead
16-12-2008, 10:26
I'm not sure if there's anything in this - a fellow wedding tog was due to get his 5D II last Friday but was called by his supplier to say that Canon UK had delayed shipments 'due to a problem with the camera'. They gave no more information than that, but it's not expected before 2009 now.

KayJay
16-12-2008, 10:37
That problem could be the black dots issue, but even still, would that stop production? I'd have thought it was a firmware issue given that Canon are preparing a statement on it. See the news section of this site.

68lbs
16-12-2008, 10:41
Just curious as someone quite new to this dslr lark, but is it normal for there to be so many problems when a new camera is released... technical, software, and supply related?

It's a bit off-putting.

KayJay
16-12-2008, 11:07
I think it's normal for any piece of technology. There are always going to be early adopters and there are always going to be those who wait a while because it's inevitable that there will be issues. It's not just for cameras, but the same applies to cars, TVs, computers etc. I wouldn't let it put you off. Games consoles are infamous for this kind of thing.

pearce_jj
16-12-2008, 11:38
the other thing is this is a highly competitive market and the manufacturer can't just keep testing and testing at infinitum..., there comes a point where it has to start shipping and as said pick up the pieces later.

KayJay
16-12-2008, 11:56
Which is why firmware is the fallback, just like patches are for computer games. The problem with relying on those too much is that it encourages complacency.

rijit
16-12-2008, 13:00
Sorry to jump slightly of the topic guys, but whats the sp on the 5mk1, are they going to keep production up or are they going to fade it out only have the MK2.

pearce_jj
16-12-2008, 13:12
jessops had to pull of their mk1s and return them to canon, i was told

KayJay
16-12-2008, 13:24
I wonder why, surely Canon would want to get their remaining stock off the shelves and out there rather than take them back in.

englandshottest2
16-12-2008, 14:09
canon seems to be really daft...unless there's something they aren't telling us!!!

andrewc
16-12-2008, 14:18
Warehouse Express showroom had several Mk 1's on display and no Mk 2's. Yesterday.

pearce_jj
16-12-2008, 14:20
they get some spares stock back and create a shortage in anticipation of the mk.2, it's all marketting bo***x :)

canon_togger
16-12-2008, 16:13
you may not see any movement on your delivery until tuesday morning canon_togger but you will get it tuesday if Bentonville gave you that day for delivery

Well NO camera arrival today.
I contacted DHL who tell me that the item hasnt been picked up yet, they only got a consignment number request from Bentonville but no request to pick up.

So two whole weeks have passed since this mob took the full payment from my credit card and I'm still waiting. I've emailed him and I'm waiting for an explanation :shrug:

britco
16-12-2008, 18:17
im sorry to hear that mate
i thought you had a tracking number for DHL?
i must admit i pestered bentonville almost every day about my camera...hope you can sort it soon

canon_togger
16-12-2008, 18:28
im sorry to hear that mate
i thought you had a tracking number for DHL?
i must admit i pestered bentonville almost every day about my camera...hope you can sort it soon

Yes he sent me a tracking number that never moved. Hence why I called DHL today who told me the above!

I've now emailed him to cancel the order as I've lost all faith in his ability to tell the truth or deliver this side of the new year.
I will now be contacting my credit card company to make sure I get a refund.

So it looks like Christmas is cancelled for me, thanks to BENTonvillemall :thumbsdown:

britco
16-12-2008, 18:49
what can i say....that's a real downer:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

fraggle101
17-12-2008, 18:30
This place is cheap, and they have 20! in stock.. Here (http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=notif&prodID=B147587)

markta
17-12-2008, 18:38
This place is cheap, and they have 20! in stock.. Here (http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=notif&prodID=B147587)

But when you click for real time stock levels, it says they'll arrive next Monday, so not sure if this is a definate..:shrug:

Splog
17-12-2008, 18:43
This place is cheap, and they have 20! in stock.. Here (http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=notif&prodID=B147587)

Not quite... This is what it says if you click the buy button :thinking:

Important, please read. This stock is arriving next Monday. Limited stock only!! Pre-order now to reserve one. Debit cards only please. Credit Cards will attract a sucharge

fraggle101
17-12-2008, 18:47
Right.. so their NEARLY instock.. lol..

puddleduck
17-12-2008, 19:01
Must admit I don't like the look of LambtaTek. Too good to be true prices, and they want you to pay with a Debit Card...

I would'nt chance it personally...

canon_togger
17-12-2008, 19:06
Must admit I don't like the look of LambtaTek. Too good to be true prices, and they want you to pay with a Debit Card...

I would'nt chance it personally...

Me neither.
I've had enough bother with bentonvillemall to put me off small companies :shake:
I'm now waiting for my credit card company to get my money back from them.

markta
18-12-2008, 15:57
Apparently they're in stock at Park Cameras....

http://www.parkcameras.com/10025/Canon-EOS-5D-MK-II-Body.html?referrer=googleadword&&gclid=CM6B6djQypcCFcse3godbT5FSQ

rdh
18-12-2008, 16:36
Must admit I don't like the look of LambtaTek. Too good to be true prices, and they want you to pay with a Debit Card...

I would'nt chance it personally...

Been around years - a friend used them ages ago when we were at uni - had no problems. Whether their stock levels are accurate is of course another matter entirely.

Radiohead
18-12-2008, 22:50
From DPR, someone who had ordered from them expecting delivery:

Dear xx,

I Just tried to ring you. I am very sorry to tell you that we have just been notified that against all expectations Canon have withdrawn their commitment to ship to our customers by Monday. And therefore have had to cancel your order .


This is an extremely embarrassing to us as a company and a time waste for both us and you, our valued customer, and I cannot begin to apologize enough for the disappointment and inconvenience this will almost certainly mean for you.


You payment has been VOIDED so no money will be taken from your card, although the "shadow" created on your card may remain for up to 3 working days, depending on your bank's policies.


Given the situation, I felt personally obliged to give you the bad news and apologies on behalf of our company. Given Canon's treatment of us, and our clients, I doubt very much I will allow LambdaTek to take backorders for Canon in the future to avoid further disappointments.


Best Regards,

Tom Felici,

Director

LambdaTek

fraggle101
18-12-2008, 23:36
perhaps this is a way for them to get out of giving them away at £1700!!

KayJay
18-12-2008, 23:36
What are they retailing at just now? How much are people paying just now?

markta
19-12-2008, 00:33
What are they retailing at just now? How much are people paying just now?

Retail price is £2,300.

I'm getting the 5D Mk II, BG-E6 battery grip and LP-E6 genuine Canon battery for £2,264.97 :)

KayJay
19-12-2008, 00:42
Hmm, the lowest I've got is £2020 for the body only. How did you get a deal like that? pm me ;)

puddleduck
19-12-2008, 11:54
I've got it pre-ordered at £1799 with RGBTech (I don't expect to ever see this) and with Amazon.co.uk @ £1,895.85 (which I do expect to get)

1 item - delivery estimate: 13 Jan 2009 - 27 Jan 2009

markta
20-12-2008, 09:32
Hmm, the lowest I've got is £2020 for the body only. How did you get a deal like that? pm me ;)

Thought it best to post here as i know a few peeps are gonna get one..

I'm getting mine from Digital Rev in Hong Kong. It is a risk, but they have repair centres in the UK under warranty.

Their customer service is superb as is their efficiency. Paid for the camera yesterday and bearing in mind HK is 8 hours ahead of us, the camera was already dispatched at about 3am our time, with a DHL tracking number, No VAT/Import Tax guarantee.

Also ordered a second LP-E6 official Canon battery for the grip.

Should be with me before Xmas Eve :woot:

canon_togger
20-12-2008, 09:34
Credit card company got my money refunded from Bentonvillemall.
Other people may have had successful dealings with them in the past, but from my own experience I will NEVER EVER purchase anything from that mob again.
If only they'd been honest and kept me updated, instead of untruths :bang:

markta
20-12-2008, 09:59
Credit card company got my money refunded from Bentonvillemall.
Other people may have had successful dealings with them in the past, but from my own experience I will NEVER EVER purchase anything from that mob again.
If only they'd been honest and kept me updated, instead of untruths :bang:

An absolute bummer :(

Devastating when that happens, especially as it's a new camera. Shame the retailers don't understand that before giving false promises.

Hope it's sorted very soon, getting it from a different retailer.

Appears they've started to come into the UK in significant quantities now. Was speaking to Warehouse Express showroom assistant manager yesterday and over 300 arrived, with 262 fullfilling back orders :eek:

Chillimonster
20-12-2008, 10:18
Dabs have there price up at £1836 inc VAT - Due in 1-2 weeks, but they will let you pre order at that price.

canon_togger
20-12-2008, 11:23
An absolute bummer :(

Devastating when that happens, especially as it's a new camera. Shame the retailers don't understand that before giving false promises.

Hope it's sorted very soon, getting it from a different retailer.

Appears they've started to come into the UK in significant quantities now. Was speaking to Warehouse Express showroom assistant manager yesterday and over 300 arrived, with 262 fullfilling back orders :eek:

I got mine today :woot: :clap:
Ordered from someone else on wednesday, arrived this morning.
Battery charging as I type :D

KayJay
20-12-2008, 12:55
Just back with my new 5d mk2. Battery is charging right now. £1800, mates rates. :O

Also, if I'm going to spend nearly 2 grand on a camera, it could at least have a plastic connection covers that are attached to the camera. How long till I loose that one on the base of the camera?

fraggle101
20-12-2008, 13:14
Nice price KJ!! where was that from?

englandshottest2
20-12-2008, 21:35
that is a good deal, im curious to know to!

Raphdedge
20-12-2008, 21:38
If anyone is still looking for one, MPB Photographic are advertising one (brand new, UK Stock) for £2099

I am in no way associated with them, but I have bought stuff from them before without any problems.

KayJay
20-12-2008, 21:39
Nice price KJ!! where was that from?

that is a good deal, im curious to know to!

Mates rates :D I cheated didn't I? :(

englandshottest2
20-12-2008, 21:39
not bad, i saw one go on eBay UK the other day for £1900, and one yesterday for £2040

blinkerz
21-12-2008, 06:18
i think it might be worth waiting till the Black dots and Vertical banding noise has been fixed.

englandshottest2
21-12-2008, 12:09
curious then as to why the usa shipment didnt get delayed...

KayJay
21-12-2008, 13:07
i think it might be worth waiting till the Black dots and Vertical banding noise has been fixed.

I'm hoping it'll be a firmware fix. Fingers crossed.

markta
21-12-2008, 13:16
I'm hoping it'll be a firmware fix. Fingers crossed.

Well I read somewhere on DPReview through Rob Galbraith that Canon has responded to the issues and are confident that a firmware update will fix the problems..

I'm hoping My 5D Mk II will be delivered tomorrow. Been through customs clearance at Heathrow this morning and last tracking info through DHL is that it's on its way to Cambridge distribution hub, so in the UK already after Saturday dispatch from Hong Kong :woot:

KayJay
21-12-2008, 13:28
Not bad at all. I'm floored with the flu but have been cuddling my 5D mk2 constantly.

CT
21-12-2008, 13:34
Not bad at all. I'm floored with the flu but have been cuddling my 5D mk2 constantly.

You have my sympathy, we've both been laid low with it all week.:gag:

puddleduck
21-12-2008, 13:41
The black dot issue is a non-issue IMHO.

The capacity for folks to blow things up to 200% and go "hah! Look!" never stops amazing me!

milou
22-12-2008, 17:29
Bargain? (assuming lens can be sold): http://www.shop.bt.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=5BMT&CategorySelectedId=11193&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11193,50330,4294959512

(source: http://www.alamy.com/forums/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=3909)

KayJay
22-12-2008, 17:42
Looks like a bargain. The lens itself is a great lens from what I've read so far.

Puncball
07-03-2009, 21:37
I just wonder if all these reports of problems with the 5D II have some merit. Could this be the reason for the non availability (in the UK) of this camera - are Canon holding back supplies until they have cleared the gremlins.

My order delivery forcast has now slipped to April 17th (I think 2009)

KayJay
07-03-2009, 21:41
I've had two bodies, the first one had hot pixels everywhere, the second one is perfect. I think people are reading too much into things. There are some firmware rumours going around at the moment that there is a new firmware update coming in the first week of April to sort issues that were put back due to Canon releasing the 5d2 to compete with Nikons HD DSLR. Who knows, but one thing I do know is it's a fantastic piece of kit.