Car rig - Now complete

Dino f · 25-07-2009, 13:40

Yay! finished the car rig today, hooked it up and all works well.
The rig is made up from 2 Manfrotto suction cups with Manfrotto superclamps attached

The pole is 2" aluminium tubing with internal stiffening ribs, running the length of the tube.

The length can be adjusted, i have 4 x 4ft lengths with smaller inserts allowing the tube to be 8,12 or 16ft long. There is another superclamp on the end with a ball head attached. This will eventually have a Manfrotto Magic arm.

This is the view i get using the full 16ft length, with a 10mm lens.

The pole does not bend or flex at all, there is a little bent bit at the join though, But it is quite sturdy. Absolutely rock solid at 12ft.
Will post pictures when i use it in anger,
Dean

Bendihossan · 25-07-2009, 13:52

I was looking at these not long ago. Would love to own one as their a terrific piece of kit but I can't really justify owning one!

GFWilliams · 27-07-2009, 12:58

Looks a good rig - very long pole!

in fact, where did you get the pole?

George

purpleclouds · 27-07-2009, 13:02

Great work! Looking forward to seeing some photos taken in anger with it!

Simmotino · 27-07-2009, 13:07

Just don't reverse on to the drive with it still mounted!

Munchkinn · 27-07-2009, 16:20

What a long pole! Will look forward to seeing some more shots from it!

itsdavedotnet · 27-07-2009, 16:23

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Originally Posted by GFWilliams

in fact, where did you get the pole?

seconded... I'm building a track and dolly (think railway for a video camera) and this kind of section tube, with the slot running the length of it, would be perfect...

looks a great rig, very sturdy too

tim_uk · 27-07-2009, 16:45

excuse my ignorance, but what's the idea of these rigs - won't the pole be in the shot ? or are they for taking shots of other motors ?

Dino f · 27-07-2009, 17:25 **Thread Starter**

Quote:

Originally Posted by tim_uk

excuse my ignorance, but what's the idea of these rigs - won't the pole be in the shot ? or are they for taking shots of other motors ?

The rig will be in shot, but only a tiny bit of it. An easy editing job.

The pole came from a supplier near to me, they come in all thicknesses, this is 2", it does get a bit heavy at 16ft, i might get another one, maybe 1 1/2" wide, and have 3 x 6ft sections, but we'll see.
Dean

realspeed · 27-07-2009, 22:19

Have you considered the legal aspect of driving on a road with a pole that long behind the car? I think the police wouldn't be too happy and I can see 3 points on a licence comming up at least. Infact I don't think it is actually legal to have such a protrusion from the back of a car. Just something to think about. What would worry me even if it was used on private ground, what would be the consequences if you braked hard and the vehicle behind didn't see. Still the photo of a person in a car with a pole through them would make the 6 o,clock news

Realspeed

tim_uk · 27-07-2009, 23:48

there are certain rules regarding projections from the car as we recently had to move some ladders and some workmen nearby said what we were doing was illegal.

I think the law is something like 12 inches from the side of the motor and up to 1 meter from back or front and beyond that you need proper marking - red flag or something. Though what the rozzers would think of having a camera sticking out rather than transporting something is anyone's guess !

Dino f · 28-07-2009, 05:51 **Thread Starter**

The rig is not to be used on the road.
It will mainly be used on a private runway, where no other cars will be present. This is standard equipment for this type of work, and has been for many years. The car engine will not even be turned on.

Dean

realspeed · 28-07-2009, 07:05

Why then not just get out of the car and put the camera on a tripod? The only reason for having a pole is for taking photos high up for those "aerial" shots

Realspeed

GFWilliams · 28-07-2009, 07:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by realspeed

Why then not just get out of the car and put the camera on a tripod? The only reason for having a pole is for taking photos high up for those "aerial" shots

Realspeed

You use the rig to get a motion shot. You push the car along then stand back (you have a helper on the brake pedal and so it looks like there is a driver). You use a long exposure (about 2 seconds nomally) to bring the amount of blur you want into the shot.

Google "Car rig shot" and I'm sure that you'll see some shots

Liberalis · 28-07-2009, 10:51

willbaroo · 28-07-2009, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by realspeed

Why then not just get out of the car and put the camera on a tripod? The only reason for having a pole is for taking photos high up for those "aerial" shots

Realspeed

Dal · 28-07-2009, 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberalis

I'm with you on this Kris lol.

Everytime someone posts up there new rig, there's always someone preaching about the law of driving with it.

The car will hardly be moving and most photographers will stand at the end of the pole with the camera, I know I would incase it ever did drop.

This isn't used on a motorway.

*EDIT*

Very nice rig, not seen the re-inforced poles before.

Dino f · 28-07-2009, 12:38 **Thread Starter**

I suppose its just naivety, not everyone is into this type of photography.
However i wouldnt go onto someones nature thread and start preaching about having licences to photograph rare species, because i know ****** all about it.
Im sure the people said these things were just looking out for me, you dont want to see a fellow tog get in trouble.
However, like you say, it does pop its head up every time.
Dean

HoppyUK · 28-07-2009, 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dino f

I suppose its just naivety, not everyone is into this type of photography.
However i wouldnt go onto someones nature thread and start preaching about having licences to photograph rare species, because i know ****** all about it.
Im sure the people said these things were just looking out for me, you dont want to see a fellow tog get in trouble.
However, like you say, it does pop its head up every time.
Dean

Maybe a few pictures taken with the rig, instead of of it, might help

Dino f · 28-07-2009, 16:41 **Thread Starter**

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoppyUK

Maybe a few pictures taken with the rig, instead of of it, might help

I totally agree, but i only take the Porsches out in good weather

Dean

Greg K · 30-07-2009, 11:38

I was looking at putting a rig together, if only I had a decent car to photograph!

Some links to others rigs with example shots:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=416525
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=499434

25-07-2009, 13:40	#1
Dino f Wiiiiilmmmaaaaaaaa Real name : Dean Feltimo Location: Bedrock via Maidenhead, Berks Posts: 2,206 Camera: Canon Eos 1D mk3, 1Ds iTrader: (7)	Car rig - Now complete Yay! finished the car rig today, hooked it up and all works well. The rig is made up from 2 Manfrotto suction cups with Manfrotto superclamps attached The pole is 2" aluminium tubing with internal stiffening ribs, running the length of the tube. The length can be adjusted, i have 4 x 4ft lengths with smaller inserts allowing the tube to be 8,12 or 16ft long. There is another superclamp on the end with a ball head attached. This will eventually have a Manfrotto Magic arm. This is the view i get using the full 16ft length, with a 10mm lens. The pole does not bend or flex at all, there is a little bent bit at the join though, But it is quite sturdy. Absolutely rock solid at 12ft. Will post pictures when i use it in anger, Dean __________________ "What turns me on?......Armpits, Cognac truffles and Small brightly coloured birds" FELTIMO.com Touch and Go Aviation Last edited by Dino f; 25-07-2009 at 13:41.

25-07-2009, 13:52	#2
Bendihossan Forum Regular Real name : Steffan Location: Aberystwyth/Llanelli Posts: 1,128 Camera: Canon EOS 5D (+BG-E4) iTrader: (4)	I was looking at these not long ago. Would love to own one as their a terrific piece of kit but I can't really justify owning one! __________________ flickr Digi: Canon EOS 5D \| EF 17-40mm f/4 L USM \| EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS USM \| EF 70-200mm f/4 L USM \| 50mm f/1.8 II \| EF 85mm f/1.8 USM \| EOS Speedlight 430EX \| Metz 48 AF-1 \| Lee & Hitech filters Film: Olympus OM-10 + Zuiko 50mm f/1.8 \| Zeiss Ikon Nettar IIb 518/16 \| Ross Ensign Selflix Snapper \| Kiev 60 + 80mm f/2.8 + TTL Prism & folding waist level finder

27-07-2009, 12:58	#3
GFWilliams wants a bigger one Real name : George F. Williams Location: Reigate, Surrey Posts: 1,043 Camera: Nikon D300 iTrader: (0)	Looks a good rig - very long pole! in fact, where did you get the pole? George __________________ My flickr

27-07-2009, 16:20	#6
Munchkinn Getting Comfy Location: UK Posts: 241 Camera: Nikon D40 iTrader: (0)	What a long pole! Will look forward to seeing some more shots from it! __________________ My flickr

27-07-2009, 22:19	#10
realspeed Forum Regular Real name : Bazza Posts: 664 Camera: Nikon D300 iTrader: (0)	Have you considered the legal aspect of driving on a road with a pole that long behind the car? I think the police wouldn't be too happy and I can see 3 points on a licence comming up at least. Infact I don't think it is actually legal to have such a protrusion from the back of a car. Just something to think about. What would worry me even if it was used on private ground, what would be the consequences if you braked hard and the vehicle behind didn't see. Still the photo of a person in a car with a pole through them would make the 6 o,clock news Realspeed Last edited by realspeed; 27-07-2009 at 22:24.

27-07-2009, 13:02	#4
purpleclouds Growing roots Real name : Phil Location: Great(er) Manchester Posts: 9,681 Camera: Canon 1D MKIII iTrader: (1)	Great work! Looking forward to seeing some photos taken in anger with it!

27-07-2009, 13:07	#5
Simmotino Forum Regular Real name : Clarke Kent ;) Location: Hampshire Posts: 1,445 Camera: 40D iTrader: (10)	Just don't reverse on to the drive with it still mounted!

27-07-2009, 16:45	#8
tim_uk Quite Chatty Posts: 71 Camera: Nikon D40 Digital, Contax G2 & RTS3 Film iTrader: (0)	excuse my ignorance, but what's the idea of these rigs - won't the pole be in the shot ? or are they for taking shots of other motors ?

27-07-2009, 23:48	#11
tim_uk Quite Chatty Posts: 71 Camera: Nikon D40 Digital, Contax G2 & RTS3 Film iTrader: (0)	there are certain rules regarding projections from the car as we recently had to move some ladders and some workmen nearby said what we were doing was illegal. I think the law is something like 12 inches from the side of the motor and up to 1 meter from back or front and beyond that you need proper marking - red flag or something. Though what the rozzers would think of having a camera sticking out rather than transporting something is anyone's guess !

28-07-2009, 05:51 Thread Starter	#12
Dino f Wiiiiilmmmaaaaaaaa Real name : Dean Feltimo Location: Bedrock via Maidenhead, Berks Posts: 2,206 Camera: Canon Eos 1D mk3, 1Ds iTrader: (7)	The rig is not to be used on the road. It will mainly be used on a private runway, where no other cars will be present. This is standard equipment for this type of work, and has been for many years. The car engine will not even be turned on. Dean

28-07-2009, 07:05	#13
realspeed Forum Regular Real name : Bazza Posts: 664 Camera: Nikon D300 iTrader: (0)	Why then not just get out of the car and put the camera on a tripod? The only reason for having a pole is for taking photos high up for those "aerial" shots Realspeed Last edited by realspeed; 28-07-2009 at 07:07.

28-07-2009, 10:51	#15
Liberalis Forum Regular Location: Scotland Posts: 1,165 Camera: Polaroid SX-70 iTrader: (0)

28-07-2009, 12:38 Thread Starter	#18
Dino f Wiiiiilmmmaaaaaaaa Real name : Dean Feltimo Location: Bedrock via Maidenhead, Berks Posts: 2,206 Camera: Canon Eos 1D mk3, 1Ds iTrader: (7)	I suppose its just naivety, not everyone is into this type of photography. However i wouldnt go onto someones nature thread and start preaching about having licences to photograph rare species, because i know ****** all about it. Im sure the people said these things were just looking out for me, you dont want to see a fellow tog get in trouble. However, like you say, it does pop its head up every time. Dean

30-07-2009, 11:38	#21
Greg K Quite Chatty Real name : Greg Location: St Albans, Hertfordshire Posts: 62 Camera: Nikon D90 iTrader: (1)	I was looking at putting a rig together, if only I had a decent car to photograph! Some links to others rigs with example shots: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=416525 http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=499434