Focus onimaging - Page 4

specialman · 05-03-2012, 19:25

Simian - that girl was sooooo photogenic was she not, especially with that hollywood lighting set-up that was being demonstrated? Lovegrove wasn't giving too much away but it was nice to see someone loving using different modifiers in a simple yet creative manner.

I have to say that the female models we top notch. The girl that Adam Duckworth had modelling was stunning, as was the girl on The Societies stand. There was a small stand along the wall where Zenfolio and the college exhibition were - she was absolutely beautiful and I had an instant crush. My mate had to remind me that we had stuff to see.... I was well and truly gawping (but not in a 50-year-old, baldy, combover way)

Marcel · 05-03-2012, 19:44

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Originally Posted by specialman

The girl that Adam Duckworth had modelling was stunning

Do you mean the one in the blue dress? (I saw the talk at 3:30 about reflectors).
She was stunningly beautiful.

Still on the theme of rudeness, what specialman said has just reminded me of another instance.
I was at a publishers stand (with the books and magazines) looking through the backissues of B&W / Outdoor photography and there was a woman in an electric wheelchair next to me looking at something.
Next thing I know she just hits the button and barges infront of me, pushing me out of the way (for fear of my toes!) and stops to look through the magazines I was reading. I just stood and waited until she moved. Still bloody rude though.

specialman · 05-03-2012, 20:15

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Originally Posted by Marcel

Do you mean the one in the blue dress? (I saw the talk at 3:30 about reflectors).
She was stunningly beautiful.

She had a white dress that was all strap-like... very sexy, although I think she was in blue at some point - a lovely Brunette. Adam Duckworth = lucky boy

EDIT: This was the scene...

I recognise the guy circled in red - isn't he one of the testers on a photo mag? Bob something?

Anyway, I look like a perv with shots like this. I was just taking a snap of the crowd, honest

wippers · 05-03-2012, 20:19

I went down today for the first time to see what all the fuss was about. The photos I had seen of the previous shows all had guys with their cameras, so decided to take mine along just in case there was something of interest. I only took a very small bag but I won't be taking it again. There was nothing worth taking photos of! I can't understand why anyone would take their camera. I loved looking round all the stands and got some good advice for future purchases. The best parts for me were the seminars on the stands. Very interesting.
I did have a guy pushing in front of everyone to get some model shots but they were using strobes with Pocket Wizards, so he's not going to get the shot anyway. Bonkers.

Looking forward to next year, although the camera will certainly be staying at home!

Gareth

Raymond Lin · 05-03-2012, 20:21

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Originally Posted by specialman

Didn't know Lara Jade was demoing.... not overly keen in her work but she's had a meteoric rise to fame that must hold some great info

I've been following her career for a while, noticed her work 4 years ago so it's not so meteoric to me but I can see your point, her career has taken off more since she moved to NYC last January.

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Originally Posted by Simian

RE:the models (well the only one i took a picture of),
this is the shot i got. all i've done is crop it. (someone had pushed right in front as i was taking it so i had the top of his camera/head in the shot).

was very, very impressed with the lighting set up and this has made me start looking into doing a studio shoot.

Personally I think that set up has too much harsh lighting from the top, see shadow under the chin. It could do with some softer light or a beauty dish.

paulbillington · 05-03-2012, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel

Do you mean the one in the blue dress? (I saw the talk at 3:30 about reflectors).
She was stunningly beautiful.

Still on the theme of rudeness, what specialman said has just reminded me of another instance.
I was at a publishers stand (with the books and magazines) looking through the backissues of B&W / Outdoor photography and there was a woman in an electric wheelchair next to me looking at something.
Next thing I know she just hits the button and barges infront of me, pushing me out of the way (for fear of my toes!) and stops to look through the magazines I was reading. I just stood and waited until she moved. Still bloody rude though.

One of my best friends was paralysed in a car crash and he can't believe how rude other people in wheelchairs are. We had an incident where someone in an electric chair charged passed a queue by the Jacobs stand running over a few feet. A few choice word from the injured were totally ignored. I do think some better organisation would help. Somewhere to leave large purchases and a ban on bringing large camera bags into the event would help.

specialman · 05-03-2012, 20:35

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Originally Posted by Raymond Lin

I've been following her career for a while, noticed her work 4 years ago so it's not so meteoric to me but I can see your point, her career has taken off more since she moved to NYC last January.

I can remember seeing something her in a mag a few years back. She was a student back then and just shot with modest kit, something like a 500D and a 50mm lens. I can remember how beautiful she was, because she did a lot of self portraiture and she looked as good in front off the camera as she was comfortable behind it. Very distressed processing and contrasty I remember. The name stuck in my head and then fast forward a few years, i saw a video of her and Joey Lawrence doing a shoot-off.

Raymond Lin · 05-03-2012, 20:42

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Originally Posted by specialman

I can remember seeing something her in a mag a few years back. She was a student back then and just shot with modest kit, something like a 500D and a 50mm lens. I can remember how beautiful she was, because she did a lot of self portraiture and she looked as good in front off the camera as she was comfortable behind it. Very distressed processing and contrasty I remember. The name stuck in my head and then fast forward a few years, i saw a video of her and Joey Lawrence doing a shoot-off.

She got a 350D I think on her 16th birthday, did self portraits and of her friends and seemingly a natural at photoshop, which is what set her apart, combined with her shots, she found a style with her processing and caught the eye of a few small magazines. What got her into the press was a porn company used one of her self portrait when she was 16(?) in a DVD cover, she sued and won in the region of $70,000, the case only concluded in late 2010.

I love her own personal projects, it has a dark humour undertone to it and it is very different to her editorials. I love it so much I have 2 of her original prints at home. One of which was straight out of her personal portfolio. She said to me at the time she was in the middle of refreshing her print portfolio, which happend to have the print of a photo I love and she sold it to me.

djinn · 05-03-2012, 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by specialman

She had a white dress that was all strap-like... very sexy, although I think she was in blue at some point - a lovely Brunette. Adam Duckworth = lucky boy

EDIT: This was the scene...

I recognise the guy circled in red - isn't he one of the testers on a photo mag? Bob something?

Anyway, I look like a perv with shots like this. I was just taking a snap of the crowd, honest

That lovely lady is Katie Green of the wonderbra ads and I might add a really nice person.

antc · 05-03-2012, 21:57

I went along to Focus mainly for a few seminars and a good wander round. I was intending on trying to find a Lee Big Stopper but no one has any stock.

I watched the Lara Jade seminar and the Andy Rouse seminar. Both were fantastic, some inspiring images and both so enthusiastic about what they do!!

Didn't really see any bargains but noticed Jacobs had refurb 7d body at around £875 and new 5d2 body for £1300 which i didn't thing was bad.

Was fairly busy although not as busy as I remember last years Monday to be! Also hardly any freebies this year I noticed.

grum · 05-03-2012, 22:13

I was thinking of going on Wednesday but I'm not sure I'll bother after reading all this! It's quite a long drive for me to get there (2 and a half hours ish).

Quite tempted by a new 5D II for £1300 though, don't think I can justify the MK III for a while yet.

Cactus Jack · 05-03-2012, 23:07

Was considering going on Wednesday

, but this and another thread have put me off. Don't think I have the temperament to deal with some rude 50 +, the odd rude wheel chair user, long lenses, large backpacks and impatience, blimey sounds like somewhere to avoid. Could it be that its too busy and possibly badly organised

I don't know as I've never been, just a thought

.

ZoneV · 06-03-2012, 01:15

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Originally Posted by specialman

Lovely model, front row with hands in pockets - not a good look!

ShrubMonkey · 06-03-2012, 06:06

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Originally Posted by djinn

That lovely lady is Katie Green of the wonderbra ads and I might add a really nice person.

Think she also appears as a regular in Advanced Photographer mag.

That image also shows me what I expect the major demographic of the attendees to consist of

treeman · 06-03-2012, 06:32

Went along yesterday, walked in just after 10, and thought, this is not too bad, hardly anyone here, hour later it was pretty bust though.

I'd love to see a lighting company with the balls to put a male model on their stand for demos, probably be commercial suicide, but it might sort the pervs out from the men!

OneTen · 06-03-2012, 06:55

Highlight of the show for me was the Wacom Intuos 5, completely sold on that now. The 5DIII was very impressive although I still want to see some images and how it handles underexposed skin. I fell for the the Fuji XPro1 but I want to go back today with a more rational head on.

None of the talks I saw were great, with the exception of Adobe on the Wacom stand. Hoping for better today on Swampy...

Byker28i · 06-03-2012, 07:20 **Thread Starter**

I always enjoy Andy Rouse talks.

OneTen · 06-03-2012, 07:24

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Originally Posted by Byker28i

I always enjoy Andy Rouse talks.

I wish I'd seen that one

krisuk2008 · 06-03-2012, 08:03

On the setup Adam was using for the flash demo what was he using to attach the grids with it was Velcro I believe but what was the name of the system?

Moore Photos · 06-03-2012, 08:36

I went yesterday, arrived at about 10.30 and came into the hall next to the Canon stand - couldn't believe how busy it was! Struggled past there and realised that the rest of the hall was fairly quiet (it did get busier in the afternoon). I had a list of stands I wanted to visit / people I wanted to talk to and that was pretty much what I did.

Visited Lencata and had a chat to them, they were very helpful and gave lots of advice. I was pretty much sold on getting a flash kit from them. Decided to go out of the hall for a breath of fresh air and went onto the Bowens stand, hadn't even considered their gear - too expensive in my mind!! Ended up buying a Gemini 500C kit (2 heads, brolly, soft box, trigger, cards, travelpak etc) with 20% off. Gets delivered tomorrow. Reason I went for this was the time and advice which they gave me). Their customer service was great.

Left the show mid afternoon as it was just too busy, people climbing over each other to touch the latest and greatest bit of kit, ogling at the models!! I'll be going again next year.

digitalfailure · 06-03-2012, 09:21

The bowens guys were indeed a pleasure, I was sooooo tempted to whip out my cc and buy a fresnel attachment

twice · 06-03-2012, 09:50

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Originally Posted by Byker28i

I always enjoy Andy Rouse talks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTen

I wish I'd seen that one

I mainly go for the seminars/talks and Andy was on very good form, he is a very passionate guy. It was a pity about the loud music from the other stand, but we got our own back!

SNG60007 · 06-03-2012, 11:39

I went for the first time on sunday, arrived at 1018 via International Station, no queus to get in. Big thanks to the Canon guys who let me put my card in the bodies with the big lenses, 800mm was amazing and I will most prob not be able to hold lenses like that again. Sigma were the same, putting a canon body on no problem.

As for the models only saw Bianca and the chap doing the lighting demos with the lady as a bride and the most permatanned male model I have ever seen.

I really really enjoyed my day, did not leave till 4 ish. i dont get why everyone is complaining about people taking pictures. Yes I took some of Bianca to get some ideas of poses but what did folk expect.

Bad manners I agree are totally unnaceptable. It was what I imagined it to be and I was pleased. Overpriced food, again what else does one expect, a packed lunch saved me a fortune.

So shifts allowing at work next year will go again. I am primarily a railway photographer and some of the comments I read on here remind me of Railway depot open days when folk complain about peopel getting in there way !!

Triggaaar · 06-03-2012, 12:58

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Originally Posted by OneTen

Highlight of the show for me was the Wacom Intuos 5, completely sold on that now.

Summary of the improvements from the 4?

Simian · 06-03-2012, 13:14

Most impressive demo I thought was topaz adjust. Looked like an incredible plugin set

ShrubMonkey · 06-03-2012, 17:18

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Originally Posted by Simian

Most impressive demo I thought was topaz adjust. Looked like an incredible plugin set

It's fantastic plugin, easy to overcook images if your not careful

BlackCloud · 06-03-2012, 17:58

Did anyone notice if there was anything much from Epson/Permajet/Lyson/Fotospeed offering any discounts on CIS kits or r2880/3000 printers?

~~tiler65~~ · 06-03-2012, 18:13

I can't believe the knobs with cameras & backpacks at focus, I could understand you taking your camera if there was a repair service etc but to take full kit and therefore limit the crowded space even further just stinks of selfishness and spoils it for the majority trying to learn something at a 'chat/talk'.

Damien Lovegrove was a good speaker (as usual) but the amount of times he had to tell blokes to turn their flashes of was embarrassing. HE WAS USING CONTINUOUS LIGHTS

Some tat stalls and looked like plenty of room for more stands.

Saw a few fellow members and had a good night out at a curry house so all was not lost.

specialman · 06-03-2012, 18:39

Did what i needed to do today with regard to pricing up for work - looks like in total we'll save a few hundred quid so that'll pay for a pair of flashes or one of the lenses. Worth the £8 parking really....

I bought nothing. I was tempted by an Epson A3+ printer on the Cameraworld stand for £199 but thought against it until I'd done more research. There were some good savings on canon gear - £1999 for a 5D2 and 24-105mm was a £300 saving on camerapricebusyter's lowest and I think I saw 1Dmk4 for £3099, which is about £200 off I believe - but the Nikon kit seemed stable in price. SB-700s for £225 wasn't too bad and new D700 for £1550 seemed okay.

Went to The Flash Centre to find a boom arm and a guy 'helped' by saying I was best off looking on the website and that it'll probably cost me £100. All this while he was checking his text messages - rude......

Crazily, I joined the RPS for no reason at all. I'd been toying with doing it last years but couldn't find a reason but I like the idea of submitting a portfolio for some letters after my name and it might help me focus as a photographer. Think I get an ARPS as standard because I have a degree but will check this out before trying to go higher. Anyway, the RPS president (Roy something) was a lovely bloke who spent some time talking to me, which was nice.

Didn't even buy a soft box, which is what I wanted. Looked at the Lastolite ones but they're expensive for what is going to get wrecked quite quickly. I'll stick with fleabay jobbies for a third of the price.

Giottos had some brilliant tripods and I'm sold on they're ball heads with the three locking wheels; the way you can adjust the biting point is excellent and they're only about £75, which i thought was good. They also do a video head that felt silky and great for panning - think that was about £70 also.

BTW, I saw Anna Ryder Richardson, which was a bit odd.

Bumped into a homer work colleague, so caught up on things, and bumped into one of the togs from our rival publishing house, Bauer (formerly EMAP) and we just put the world to rights about kit and things in general. Was good to catch up.

Raymond Lin · 06-03-2012, 18:42

I'd be interested to hear more about the ball head you mentioned. I want to move away from the Pan & Tile Manfrotto one and i know ball heads you really get what you pay for and I don't trust cheap ones where I have £4,000 sitting on top of it.

05-03-2012, 19:25	#91
specialman Everyone say "Nifty Fifty!" Real name : Pat MacInnes Location: Rugby, Warks Posts: 6,668 Camera: A pair of steam-powered Nikons	Simian - that girl was sooooo photogenic was she not, especially with that hollywood lighting set-up that was being demonstrated? Lovegrove wasn't giving too much away but it was nice to see someone loving using different modifiers in a simple yet creative manner. I have to say that the female models we top notch. The girl that Adam Duckworth had modelling was stunning, as was the girl on The Societies stand. There was a small stand along the wall where Zenfolio and the college exhibition were - she was absolutely beautiful and I had an instant crush. My mate had to remind me that we had stuff to see.... I was well and truly gawping (but not in a 50-year-old, baldy, combover way) __________________ My blog My flickr Enter this year's 2012 POTY competition Last edited by specialman; 05-03-2012 at 19:26.

05-03-2012, 20:19	#94
wippers Forum Regular Real name : Gareth Location: Cheshire, UK Posts: 1,366 Camera: Canon 5D Mk2	I went down today for the first time to see what all the fuss was about. The photos I had seen of the previous shows all had guys with their cameras, so decided to take mine along just in case there was something of interest. I only took a very small bag but I won't be taking it again. There was nothing worth taking photos of! I can't understand why anyone would take their camera. I loved looking round all the stands and got some good advice for future purchases. The best parts for me were the seminars on the stands. Very interesting. I did have a guy pushing in front of everyone to get some model shots but they were using strobes with Pocket Wizards, so he's not going to get the shot anyway. Bonkers. Looking forward to next year, although the camera will certainly be staying at home! Gareth __________________ www.garethwhiston.com

05-03-2012, 22:13	#101
grum Feet under the table Real name : Graham Posts: 3,148 Camera: Canon 5D MK I, 7D, GF1	I was thinking of going on Wednesday but I'm not sure I'll bother after reading all this! It's quite a long drive for me to get there (2 and a half hours ish). Quite tempted by a new 5D II for £1300 though, don't think I can justify the MK III for a while yet. __________________ Website \| Flickr \| Facebook Last edited by grum; 05-03-2012 at 23:21.

06-03-2012, 06:32	#105
treeman Feet under the table Real name : Mark Location: Sunny Surrey Posts: 3,119 Camera: D3, D3s	Went along yesterday, walked in just after 10, and thought, this is not too bad, hardly anyone here, hour later it was pretty bust though. I'd love to see a lighting company with the balls to put a male model on their stand for demos, probably be commercial suicide, but it might sort the pervs out from the men! __________________ \| Equine Photographer \| Facebook \|

06-03-2012, 06:55	#106
OneTen Feet under the table Real name : Richard Location: Lancashire Posts: 2,139	Highlight of the show for me was the Wacom Intuos 5, completely sold on that now. The 5DIII was very impressive although I still want to see some images and how it handles underexposed skin. I fell for the the Fuji XPro1 but I want to go back today with a more rational head on. None of the talks I saw were great, with the exception of Adobe on the Wacom stand. Hoping for better today on Swampy... __________________ Richard... \| My Personal Website OneTen Images \| My Facebook Page Richard Hardwick Photography \|

05-03-2012, 21:57	#100
antc Feet under the table Real name : Anthony Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,344 Camera: Olympus OMD EM-5	I went along to Focus mainly for a few seminars and a good wander round. I was intending on trying to find a Lee Big Stopper but no one has any stock. I watched the Lara Jade seminar and the Andy Rouse seminar. Both were fantastic, some inspiring images and both so enthusiastic about what they do!! Didn't really see any bargains but noticed Jacobs had refurb 7d body at around £875 and new 5d2 body for £1300 which i didn't thing was bad. Was fairly busy although not as busy as I remember last years Monday to be! Also hardly any freebies this year I noticed.

05-03-2012, 23:07	#102
Cactus Jack Getting Comfy Real name : Neil Location: Havering Posts: 125 Camera: Canon 5D	Was considering going on Wednesday , but this and another thread have put me off. Don't think I have the temperament to deal with some rude 50 +, the odd rude wheel chair user, long lenses, large backpacks and impatience, blimey sounds like somewhere to avoid. Could it be that its too busy and possibly badly organised I don't know as I've never been, just a thought .

06-03-2012, 07:20 Thread Starter	#107
Byker28i Loves the place Location: Swindon Posts: 6,497 Camera: Canon 50D	I always enjoy Andy Rouse talks.

06-03-2012, 08:03	#109
krisuk2008 Getting Comfy Real name : kristien Location: NE Lincolnshire Grimsby Posts: 242 Camera: canon 5d mk II	On the setup Adam was using for the flash demo what was he using to attach the grids with it was Velcro I believe but what was the name of the system? __________________ flickr

06-03-2012, 08:36	#110
Moore Photos Been here a while Real name : Brian Location: Sleaford, Lincolnshire Posts: 297 Camera: Canon 5d Mk11	I went yesterday, arrived at about 10.30 and came into the hall next to the Canon stand - couldn't believe how busy it was! Struggled past there and realised that the rest of the hall was fairly quiet (it did get busier in the afternoon). I had a list of stands I wanted to visit / people I wanted to talk to and that was pretty much what I did. Visited Lencata and had a chat to them, they were very helpful and gave lots of advice. I was pretty much sold on getting a flash kit from them. Decided to go out of the hall for a breath of fresh air and went onto the Bowens stand, hadn't even considered their gear - too expensive in my mind!! Ended up buying a Gemini 500C kit (2 heads, brolly, soft box, trigger, cards, travelpak etc) with 20% off. Gets delivered tomorrow. Reason I went for this was the time and advice which they gave me). Their customer service was great. Left the show mid afternoon as it was just too busy, people climbing over each other to touch the latest and greatest bit of kit, ogling at the models!! I'll be going again next year. __________________ Social Photographer, Sleaford, Lincolnshire www.moore-photos.co.uk

06-03-2012, 09:21	#111
digitalfailure Administrator I've got a small package now Real name : Brian Location: Chestershire Posts: 12,178 Camera: Canon 5D MkII	The bowens guys were indeed a pleasure, I was sooooo tempted to whip out my cc and buy a fresnel attachment __________________ Talk Photography....... the finest forum you've ever visited.

06-03-2012, 11:39	#113
SNG60007 Getting Comfy Real name : NIGEL Posts: 182	I went for the first time on sunday, arrived at 1018 via International Station, no queus to get in. Big thanks to the Canon guys who let me put my card in the bodies with the big lenses, 800mm was amazing and I will most prob not be able to hold lenses like that again. Sigma were the same, putting a canon body on no problem. As for the models only saw Bianca and the chap doing the lighting demos with the lady as a bride and the most permatanned male model I have ever seen. I really really enjoyed my day, did not leave till 4 ish. i dont get why everyone is complaining about people taking pictures. Yes I took some of Bianca to get some ideas of poses but what did folk expect. Bad manners I agree are totally unnaceptable. It was what I imagined it to be and I was pleased. Overpriced food, again what else does one expect, a packed lunch saved me a fortune. So shifts allowing at work next year will go again. I am primarily a railway photographer and some of the comments I read on here remind me of Railway depot open days when folk complain about peopel getting in there way !!

06-03-2012, 13:14	#115
Simian Getting Comfy Real name : Ben Location: Stourbridge Posts: 179 Camera: Canon 7d	Most impressive demo I thought was topaz adjust. Looked like an incredible plugin set

06-03-2012, 17:58	#117
BlackCloud Forum Regular Location: Leicestershire Posts: 875 Camera: Nikon D700 and D300	Did anyone notice if there was anything much from Epson/Permajet/Lyson/Fotospeed offering any discounts on CIS kits or r2880/3000 printers?

06-03-2012, 18:13	#118
~~tiler65~~ Suspended Real name : Tom (I think) Location: Manchester Posts: 8,190	I can't believe the knobs with cameras & backpacks at focus, I could understand you taking your camera if there was a repair service etc but to take full kit and therefore limit the crowded space even further just stinks of selfishness and spoils it for the majority trying to learn something at a 'chat/talk'. Damien Lovegrove was a good speaker (as usual) but the amount of times he had to tell blokes to turn their flashes of was embarrassing. HE WAS USING CONTINUOUS LIGHTS Some tat stalls and looked like plenty of room for more stands. Saw a few fellow members and had a good night out at a curry house so all was not lost.

06-03-2012, 18:39	#119
specialman Everyone say "Nifty Fifty!" Real name : Pat MacInnes Location: Rugby, Warks Posts: 6,668 Camera: A pair of steam-powered Nikons	Did what i needed to do today with regard to pricing up for work - looks like in total we'll save a few hundred quid so that'll pay for a pair of flashes or one of the lenses. Worth the £8 parking really.... I bought nothing. I was tempted by an Epson A3+ printer on the Cameraworld stand for £199 but thought against it until I'd done more research. There were some good savings on canon gear - £1999 for a 5D2 and 24-105mm was a £300 saving on camerapricebusyter's lowest and I think I saw 1Dmk4 for £3099, which is about £200 off I believe - but the Nikon kit seemed stable in price. SB-700s for £225 wasn't too bad and new D700 for £1550 seemed okay. Went to The Flash Centre to find a boom arm and a guy 'helped' by saying I was best off looking on the website and that it'll probably cost me £100. All this while he was checking his text messages - rude...... Crazily, I joined the RPS for no reason at all. I'd been toying with doing it last years but couldn't find a reason but I like the idea of submitting a portfolio for some letters after my name and it might help me focus as a photographer. Think I get an ARPS as standard because I have a degree but will check this out before trying to go higher. Anyway, the RPS president (Roy something) was a lovely bloke who spent some time talking to me, which was nice. Didn't even buy a soft box, which is what I wanted. Looked at the Lastolite ones but they're expensive for what is going to get wrecked quite quickly. I'll stick with fleabay jobbies for a third of the price. Giottos had some brilliant tripods and I'm sold on they're ball heads with the three locking wheels; the way you can adjust the biting point is excellent and they're only about £75, which i thought was good. They also do a video head that felt silky and great for panning - think that was about £70 also. BTW, I saw Anna Ryder Richardson, which was a bit odd. Bumped into a homer work colleague, so caught up on things, and bumped into one of the togs from our rival publishing house, Bauer (formerly EMAP) and we just put the world to rights about kit and things in general. Was good to catch up. Last edited by specialman; 06-03-2012 at 19:15.

06-03-2012, 18:42	#120
Raymond Lin Feet under the table Real name : Raymond Location: England Posts: 2,744 Camera: Canon 5DMkviii (iii+iii+ii)	I'd be interested to hear more about the ball head you mentioned. I want to move away from the Pan & Tile Manfrotto one and i know ball heads you really get what you pay for and I don't trust cheap ones where I have £4,000 sitting on top of it.