Are Kood filters any good.

hillwalkinggirl · 06-09-2008, 12:25

I was thinking about buying a filter system. I have been looking at the Cokin P Series, holder etc, and some ND grads, and an ND filter. I presume the P series would be OK for lens sizes 52 to 77.

I see the Kood ones going at a relatively cheap price compared to the Cokin, but I wonder whether they are worth buying. I can't afford to spend mega money on Lee filters as I have been rather extravagant lately with my new lenses. Any advice welcome please.

Dogfish_magnet · 06-09-2008, 12:32

I have the kood CPL and a couple of ND grads and I've not had any issues with them tbh, i got the whole kit inc holder and a couple of rings for about £30.00.

Canon Bob · 06-09-2008, 12:34

Barbara,

My personal opinion is that Cokin's are the minimum that you should aim for....the P-series being the ones as you stated.

Try 7DayShop for good prices as the filters will come in under the VAT threshold although they will be delivered individually to comply with this.

Bob

PD_BARBS · 06-09-2008, 13:30

It would also be worth looking at Hitech filters. I have seen some good reports on here regarding these. They fit into the Cokin P filter holder, are not much more expensive £40 for three ND Grads and apparently do not suffer from the colour tinting reportedwith the Coking filters.

These can be picked up from http://www.teamworkphoto.com/index.p...ndex&cPath=258. I have ordered a set, but haven't arrived yet, but certainly more affordable than Lee filters.

Benroy · 06-09-2008, 13:36

For ND grads I'd recommend Hitech over Cokin. They're not that much more expensive and I found the results far superior.
I think I got a set of three for £30 + vat and postage from here. One of the sizes fits into the cokin p system,

the 85mm I think but that needs double checking.

Flash In The Pan · 06-09-2008, 13:38

IIRC Kood are part of the Hoya/Tokina group, a lot of their filters are rebranded Hoya ones.

PD_BARBS · 06-09-2008, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benroy

For ND grads I'd recommend Hitech over Cokin. They're not that much more expensive and I found the results far superior.
I think I got a set of three for £30 + vat and postage from here. One of the sizes fits into the cokin p system,

the 85mm I think but that needs double checking.

It is 85mm you need for the Cokin P holder.

reddeathdrinker · 06-09-2008, 14:00

I use Kood ND grads - not got anything bad to say about them

I will be getting more as well...

hillwalkinggirl · 06-09-2008, 14:36 **Thread Starter**

Thank you everbody for all the useful information. Thats given me a lot to think about. One more question. I see that there are 2 types of P holders. A normal one and a wide angle one. Would the wide angle one work with all my lenses from my 10-20 which is 77mm filter size, the 105mm macro which is 58mm filter size, and my 50mm and 24mm prime which are 52mm. I realise that I also have to buy the Adapter rings, but just unsure whether I need the two types of holder.

PD_BARBS · 06-09-2008, 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillwalkinggirl

Thank you everbody for all the useful information. Thats given me a lot to think about. One more question. I see that there are 2 types of P holders. A normal one and a wide angle one. Would the wide angle one work with all my lenses from my 10-20 which is 77mm filter size, the 105mm macro which is 58mm filter size, and my 50mm and 24mm prime which are 52mm. I realise that I also have to buy the Adapter rings, but just unsure whether I need the two types of holder.

I'm only answering this from my own reseach, so somebody who has used it in anger may have a different opinion. As far as I am aware the wide angle should not cause any vignetting on the 10-20, but it only holds one filter. While the normal holder does cause some problems at less than 11mm, it can hold 3 filters.

I am in the same boat as you, i have a 10-20 and a 28-105, but I just went for the normal holder, as having to work at above 11mm on the 10-20 would not be that big of an issue, but I have the extra flexibiliby. And besides if it does cause a problem, I would buy the wide angle holder later as they are only £7 from 7dayshop.

I have also seen that alot of people just use blue tack to avoid the vignetting issue, but maybe not.

I'm sorry my filters haven't arrived yet as could have given you a more definitive answer. But if my Hitechs come next week, I will let you know how they are.

Benroy · 06-09-2008, 15:00

There are adapter rings for the P series from 48mm to 82mm so the wide angle holder will work with all your lenses.
The normal holder can hold two filters but at wider focal lengths the edges of the holder become visible in the frame, the wide angle holder only holds one filter to prevent this happening.

Ajophotog · 06-09-2008, 15:05

Barbara, I have quite a few screw on type filters and my koods are excellent and to be honest I can't tell the difference between my hoya, kood, Jessops or B+W filters. I am now just replacing damage and buying new types made by kood because the difference like I say is pretty minimal and the price is good.

hillwalkinggirl · 06-09-2008, 15:07 **Thread Starter**

Quote:

Originally Posted by PD_BARBS

I'm only answering this from my own reseach, so somebody who has used it in anger may have a different opinion. As far as I am aware the wide angle should not cause any vignetting on the 10-20, but it only holds one filter. While the normal holder does cause some problems at less than 11mm, it can hold 3 filters.

I am in the same boat as you, i have a 10-20 and a 28-105, but I just went for the normal holder, as having to work at above 11mm on the 10-20 would not be that big of an issue, but I have the extra flexibiliby. And besides if it does cause a problem, I would buy the wide angle holder later as they are only £7 from 7dayshop.

I have also seen that alot of people just use blue tack to avoid the vignetting issue, but maybe not.

I'm sorry my filters haven't arrived yet as could have given you a more definitive answer. But if my Hitechs come next week, I will let you know how they are.

I think that I will probably do the same. Will the Hitech filters fit into the P series holder OK as I see the following on the Teamwork Digital website "*May not fit in some newer Cokin holders - please check before purchase."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benroy

There are adapter rings for the P series from 48mm to 82mm so the wide angle holder will work with all your lenses.
The normal holder can hold two filters but at wider focal lengths the edges of the holder become visible in the frame, the wide angle holder only holds one filter to prevent this happening.

Thank you Benroy.

bazzer · 06-09-2008, 16:08

I've been watching this thread with interest, as I'm looking to get a set of ND grads & held back because of the Cokin tinge problem. I will now get myself a set of Hitech ND grads - thanks for all the info guys & HWG for starting the thread

hillwalkinggirl · 06-09-2008, 16:20 **Thread Starter**

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazzer

I've been watching this thread with interest, as I'm looking to get a set of ND grads & held back because of the Cokin tinge problem. I will now get myself a set of Hitech ND grads - thanks for all the info guys & HWG for starting the thread

I've just found this thread with good prices for the filter holders and rings. http://www.crookedimaging.co.uk/shop/index.php I don't know if anyone has experience of whether this company are any good. I will probably buy the Kood or Cokin holders from there, and then get the Hitech ND grads after checking they will fit the holders.

mercmanuk · 06-09-2008, 16:34

Hi see this i think there great for the price and if they get scratched they have protected your expensive len's and not hurt your pocket as far a replacing the filter kood filters

Regards Mark.

PD_BARBS · 06-09-2008, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillwalkinggirl

I've just found this thread with good prices for the filter holders and rings. http://www.crookedimaging.co.uk/shop/index.php I don't know if anyone has experience of whether this company are any good. I will probably buy the Kood or Cokin holders from there, and then get the Hitech ND grads after checking they will fit the holders.

I will let you know if they fit when mines come.

7DayShop is cheaper than cooked image for the adaptors and rings, even taking off the free postage. Also if you tend to buy magazinses, Digital SLR Photography are offering a Cokin set with a sunset filter for an anuual subscription.

Flash In The Pan · 06-09-2008, 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillwalkinggirl

I've just found this thread with good prices for the filter holders and rings. http://www.crookedimaging.co.uk/shop/index.php I don't know if anyone has experience of whether this company are any good. I will probably buy the Kood or Cokin holders from there, and then get the Hitech ND grads after checking they will fit the holders.

Crooked Imaging are top notch,I've bought quite a few bits n bobs from them

puddleduck · 06-09-2008, 17:57

I'd go for:

Hightech
Kood
Cokin in that order.

I suppose Lee should be top, but they charge silly money for a bit of see through plastic really.

hillwalkinggirl · 06-09-2008, 19:09 **Thread Starter**

Here are the latest results of my research of cost versus quality.

Cokin, holder, 52, 58 and 77 ring from Crooked Imaging Total £32.46
----------do---------------------7 day Shop , Total £27.41

Kood holder, 52,58 and 77 ring from Crooked Imaging Total £15.96
------------do-------------------7 day shop, Total £16.91

Does anyone know if the Cokin holders in anyway superior to the Kood holders to justify me spending an extra £11.45.

hillwalkinggirl · 06-09-2008, 19:13 **Thread Starter**

Quote:

Originally Posted by mercmanuk

Hi see this i think there great for the price and if they get scratched they have protected your expensive len's and not hurt your pocket as far a replacing the filter kood filters

Regards Mark.

Thank you for the link Mark.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PD_BARBS

I will let you know if they fit when mines come.

7DayShop is cheaper than cooked image for the adaptors and rings, even taking off the free postage. Also if you tend to buy magazinses, Digital SLR Photography are offering a Cokin set with a sunset filter for an anuual subscription.

Thank you PDB. I would be grateful if you could let me know. I've looked at the mag subscription but it doesn't say whether it's the A or the P size, so I think I'll stick to buying one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash In The Pan

Crooked Imaging are top notch,I've bought quite a few bits n bobs from them

Thank you for your recommendation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by puddleduck

I'd go for:

Hightech
Kood
Cokin in that order.

I suppose Lee should be top, but they charge silly money for a bit of see through plastic really.

Thank you Puddleduck. Have you any experience of holder quality. Please see the previous post.

puddleduck · 06-09-2008, 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillwalkinggirl

Thank you Puddleduck. Have you any experience of holder quality. Please see the previous post.

Hi

I've got a Cokin wide angle holder, and a Kood standard "p" fit one (which holds more than one filter) and frankly I'd go for the cheapest one you can find

Flash In The Pan · 06-09-2008, 19:59

I think Cokin are the only one who do a wide-angle holder, otherwise I'd have bought a "copy" one...

hillwalkinggirl · 06-09-2008, 20:37 **Thread Starter**

Quote:

Originally Posted by puddleduck

Hi

I've got a Cokin wide angle holder, and a Kood standard "p" fit one (which holds more than one filter) and frankly I'd go for the cheapest one you can find

Thanks PD, its the Kood one first then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash In The Pan

I think Cokin are the only one who do a wide-angle holder, otherwise I'd have bought a "copy" one...

Thanks FIP
and the Cokin wide angle next.

davekiddle · 06-09-2008, 20:42

I cut down a normal Cokin holder to make a wide angle holder for my Sigma 10-20 - I think the standard ones are cheaper?

mercmanuk · 06-09-2008, 20:48

there are plenty of cokin holders on e-bay the p series filters are 82mm @ the widest point, so the holder should be 83.5 mm across to hold them as some from china are smaller or larger, mass produced rubbish...

regards Mark

hillwalkinggirl · 06-09-2008, 20:56 **Thread Starter**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajophotog

Barbara, I have quite a few screw on type filters and my koods are excellent and to be honest I can't tell the difference between my hoya, kood, Jessops or B+W filters. I am now just replacing damage and buying new types made by kood because the difference like I say is pretty minimal and the price is good.

Thank you for the information Alby, I'm sorry I missed your post earlier. It's going to be Koods for me now. Just got to get my credit card out again.

hillwalkinggirl · 06-09-2008, 20:57 **Thread Starter**

Quote:

Originally Posted by davekiddle

I cut down a normal Cokin holder to make a wide angle holder for my Sigma 10-20 - I think the standard ones are cheaper?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mercmanuk

there are plenty of cokin holders on e-bay the p series filters are 82mm @ the widest point, so the holder should be 83.5 mm across to hold them as some from china are smaller or larger, mass produced rubbish...

regards Mark

Thank you both.

PD_BARBS · 07-09-2008, 09:36

Hello Barbara

It would be worth looking at eBay, I picked up my holder + a 72mm adaptor ring for £4, and in a seperate bid I picked up a 77mm adaptor for £3.50. So some bargains to be had.

The Kood filters can also be picked up cheap on 7DayShop (god you would think I worked for them or something). Anyway good luck with the purchase, we can share and compare results, when mine finally arrive.

jerry12953 · 07-09-2008, 10:24

It may be too late, but I don't find filter holders necessary. Just more faff if you ask me!

Use ordinary screw-in polarisers, and hand hold your grey grad's against the front rim of the lens when you're ready to take the pic.

It's easy enough on a tripod, and possible when hand held with a little practice.

06-09-2008, 12:25	#1
hillwalkinggirl Loves the place Real name : Barbara Location: Wales Posts: 4,087 Camera: Nikon D7000,Panasonic G2	Are Kood filters any good. I was thinking about buying a filter system. I have been looking at the Cokin P Series, holder etc, and some ND grads, and an ND filter. I presume the P series would be OK for lens sizes 52 to 77. I see the Kood ones going at a relatively cheap price compared to the Cokin, but I wonder whether they are worth buying. I can't afford to spend mega money on Lee filters as I have been rather extravagant lately with my new lenses. Any advice welcome please. __________________ I only travel so I have the pleasure of returning home. http://www.flickr.com/photos/hillwalkinggirl/

06-09-2008, 12:32	#2
Dogfish_magnet Loves the place Real name : Paul Location: Cornwall Posts: 4,516 Camera: Canon 5D MKII	I have the kood CPL and a couple of ND grads and I've not had any issues with them tbh, i got the whole kit inc holder and a couple of rings for about £30.00. __________________

06-09-2008, 12:34	#3
Canon Bob Loves the Enemy Real name : Bob Location: Poitou Charentes, France Posts: 6,901 Camera: 1Dx (2), 1D4, 5D2 IR	Barbara, My personal opinion is that Cokin's are the minimum that you should aim for....the P-series being the ones as you stated. Try 7DayShop for good prices as the filters will come in under the VAT threshold although they will be delivered individually to comply with this. Bob __________________ In many ways a *zoom lens* is like a tube of *hemorrhoid cream*.....you hope that you never need to use it but it's a comforting feeling to know that it's there in the back of the cupboard should it be required

06-09-2008, 13:30	#4
PD_BARBS Forum Regular Real name : Peter Barber Location: Derry Posts: 888 Camera: Canon 5D Mark II	It would also be worth looking at Hitech filters. I have seen some good reports on here regarding these. They fit into the Cokin P filter holder, are not much more expensive £40 for three ND Grads and apparently do not suffer from the colour tinting reportedwith the Coking filters. These can be picked up from http://www.teamworkphoto.com/index.p...ndex&cPath=258. I have ordered a set, but haven't arrived yet, but certainly more affordable than Lee filters. Last edited by PD_BARBS; 06-09-2008 at 13:42.

06-09-2008, 13:36	#5
Benroy Been here a while Real name : Ben Location: Cumbria Posts: 354 Camera: Canon 400d	For ND grads I'd recommend Hitech over Cokin. They're not that much more expensive and I found the results far superior. I think I got a set of three for £30 + vat and postage from here. One of the sizes fits into the cokin p system, the 85mm I think but that needs double checking. __________________ My Flickr

06-09-2008, 13:38	#6
Flash In The Pan Full Time Resident Posts: 24,467 Camera: Ilford Advocate	IIRC Kood are part of the Hoya/Tokina group, a lot of their filters are rebranded Hoya ones.

06-09-2008, 14:00	#8
reddeathdrinker Feet under the table Real name : Alasdair Location: Aberdeen Posts: 1,581	I use Kood ND grads - not got anything bad to say about them I will be getting more as well...

06-09-2008, 14:36 Thread Starter	#9
hillwalkinggirl Loves the place Real name : Barbara Location: Wales Posts: 4,087 Camera: Nikon D7000,Panasonic G2	Thank you everbody for all the useful information. Thats given me a lot to think about. One more question. I see that there are 2 types of P holders. A normal one and a wide angle one. Would the wide angle one work with all my lenses from my 10-20 which is 77mm filter size, the 105mm macro which is 58mm filter size, and my 50mm and 24mm prime which are 52mm. I realise that I also have to buy the Adapter rings, but just unsure whether I need the two types of holder.

06-09-2008, 15:00	#11
Benroy Been here a while Real name : Ben Location: Cumbria Posts: 354 Camera: Canon 400d	There are adapter rings for the P series from 48mm to 82mm so the wide angle holder will work with all your lenses. The normal holder can hold two filters but at wider focal lengths the edges of the holder become visible in the frame, the wide angle holder only holds one filter to prevent this happening.

06-09-2008, 15:05	#12
Ajophotog He's macroscopic ! Real name : Alby Location: Portsmouth UK Posts: 12,788 Camera: Olympus, Fuji, Canon, Nikon & Panasonic	Barbara, I have quite a few screw on type filters and my koods are excellent and to be honest I can't tell the difference between my hoya, kood, Jessops or B+W filters. I am now just replacing damage and buying new types made by kood because the difference like I say is pretty minimal and the price is good. __________________ Alby....... My Flickr Gallery

06-09-2008, 16:08	#14
bazzer Forum Regular Real name : Barry Location: Isle of Wight Posts: 510 Camera: Canon 40D	I've been watching this thread with interest, as I'm looking to get a set of ND grads & held back because of the Cokin tinge problem. I will now get myself a set of Hitech ND grads - thanks for all the info guys & HWG for starting the thread

06-09-2008, 16:34	#16
mercmanuk Forum Regular Real name : Mark Location: northish Posts: 1,146 Camera: not as many as canon bob LOL	Hi see this i think there great for the price and if they get scratched they have protected your expensive len's and not hurt your pocket as far a replacing the filter kood filters Regards Mark. __________________ please visit the nerja donkey sanctuary adopt a donkey for 25 euros per year. check out this thread Donkeys In Life You Can Make Things Happen, Watch Them Happen, or Wonder What The Hell Happened

06-09-2008, 17:57	#19
puddleduck Loves the place Real name : Andy Drake Location: Cambridge Posts: 7,236 Camera: Sony A900 x 2	I'd go for: Hightech Kood Cokin in that order. I suppose Lee should be top, but they charge silly money for a bit of see through plastic really.

06-09-2008, 19:09 Thread Starter	#20
hillwalkinggirl Loves the place Real name : Barbara Location: Wales Posts: 4,087 Camera: Nikon D7000,Panasonic G2	Here are the latest results of my research of cost versus quality. Cokin, holder, 52, 58 and 77 ring from Crooked Imaging Total £32.46 ----------do---------------------7 day Shop , Total £27.41 Kood holder, 52,58 and 77 ring from Crooked Imaging Total £15.96 ------------do-------------------7 day shop, Total £16.91 Does anyone know if the Cokin holders in anyway superior to the Kood holders to justify me spending an extra £11.45.

06-09-2008, 19:59	#23
Flash In The Pan Full Time Resident Posts: 24,467 Camera: Ilford Advocate	I think Cokin are the only one who do a wide-angle holder, otherwise I'd have bought a "copy" one...

06-09-2008, 20:42	#25
davekiddle Like to feel muppets Real name : Dave Location: Southampton Posts: 4,882 Camera: D700, D300, X100	I cut down a normal Cokin holder to make a wide angle holder for my Sigma 10-20 - I think the standard ones are cheaper? __________________ davekiddle.com My Flickr

06-09-2008, 20:48	#26
mercmanuk Forum Regular Real name : Mark Location: northish Posts: 1,146 Camera: not as many as canon bob LOL	there are plenty of cokin holders on e-bay the p series filters are 82mm @ the widest point, so the holder should be 83.5 mm across to hold them as some from china are smaller or larger, mass produced rubbish... regards Mark

07-09-2008, 09:36	#29
PD_BARBS Forum Regular Real name : Peter Barber Location: Derry Posts: 888 Camera: Canon 5D Mark II	Hello Barbara It would be worth looking at eBay, I picked up my holder + a 72mm adaptor ring for £4, and in a seperate bid I picked up a 77mm adaptor for £3.50. So some bargains to be had. The Kood filters can also be picked up cheap on 7DayShop (god you would think I worked for them or something). Anyway good luck with the purchase, we can share and compare results, when mine finally arrive.

07-09-2008, 10:24	#30
jerry12953 Loves the place Real name : Jeremy Moore Location: mid-Wales Posts: 4,114 Camera: Canon 5D	It may be too late, but I don't find filter holders necessary. Just more faff if you ask me! Use ordinary screw-in polarisers, and hand hold your grey grad's against the front rim of the lens when you're ready to take the pic. It's easy enough on a tripod, and possible when hand held with a little practice.