printer or photoshop to manage colour

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is it better for the printer epson 1500w to manage the colour or for photoshop to do it my p[rints are coming out with an orange tinge and im not sure why. also how do i set the profile for a particular paper, i know nothing about profiles if someone knows of an idiots guide i would appreciate it
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I have the 1500W and have spent hours trying to sort it out. Colour is ok, but all my b&w prints have a green hue to them. I have bought some permajet paper and am going to dl their driver. I'll let you know how I get on. Try using the driver for you paper in ps and see how you get on. Also try setting the gamma to 1.8 rather than 2.0. If anyone else has better advice I'd love to hear it.
 
When i print i let photoshop manage colour , my printer is set to no colour management , use the correct profile for your paper by setting this in the printer dialog box and also sellect the correct paper profile in photoshop
 
Raptor Mike said:
I have the 1500W and have spent hours trying to sort it out. Colour is ok, but all my b&w prints have a green hue to them. I have bought some permajet paper and am going to dl their driver. I'll let you know how I get on. Try using the driver for you paper in ps and see how you get on. Also try setting the gamma to 1.8 rather than 2.0. If anyone else has better advice I'd love to hear it.
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mike, thanks for the reply, i havent tried b&w yet but although its printed a lovely quality print of some flowers they are more orange than they appear on my monitor. when you say driver do you mean profile? i am using epson glossy but none of the profiles say just "epson glossy" so not sure if im using the right one.
 
freelanderuk said:
When i print i let photoshop manage colour , my printer is set to no colour management , use the correct profile for your paper by setting this in the printer dialog box and also sellect the correct paper profile in photoshop
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Chris, thanks for the reply i have the same settings i let photoshop manage colours. im using epson glossy paper but "epson glossy " doesnt appear in the dropdown box, "sp 1500 artisan 1430 epson glossy "does is this the correct profile?
 
You let photoshop manage colour (with the correct paper profile), turn of management in the printer dialogue but still make sure to select the correct paper type. Double profiling is one the most common printing errors.
 
If you know nothing of profiling then Id suggest you use "Printer manages color" option. However this normally only works well if you are using Epson products. Different manufacturers product will have differentcharacteristics

If what you are using at the moment works well, then you could try going to the advanced tab on the printer driver. You should find some slider controls that will enable you to tweak the colour slightly, to compensate for the orange tinge.

I suspect the reason for this colour anomaly is maybe that the display is not calibrated. Most displays are very blue straight out of the box. You may be compensating for this by warming the image up in Photoshop. Hence the orange tinge.

If making a small tweak in the printing works , then it will save you the necessity of calibrating your display, and the cost of the device as well. If you are doing a lot of printing yourself i would suggest you look into getting the a calibration device in the near future
 
Chappers said:
If you know nothing of profiling then Id suggest you use "Printer manages color" option. However this normally only works well if you are using Epson products. Different manufacturers product will have differentcharacteristics

If what you are using at the moment works well, then you could try going to the advanced tab on the printer driver. You should find some slider controls that will enable you to tweak the colour slightly, to compensate for the orange tinge.

I suspect the reason for this colour anomaly is maybe that the display is not calibrated. Most displays are very blue straight out of the box. You may be compensating for this by warming the image up in Photoshop. Hence the orange tinge.

If making a small tweak in the printing works , then it will save you the necessity of calibrating your display, and the cost of the device as well. If you are doing a lot of printing yourself i would suggest you look into getting the a calibration device in the near future
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John, thanks for the reply, i cannot see the sliders you refer to can you explain where i would find them
thanks
Bill
 
Yep I do man profile. So let is Ps manage colour. Select the profile you mention. Turn off any management by printer. But calibration is a must, I use a spyder 2 express. If what you see in PS is right and let PS manage colours for printing, then PS SHOULD tell the printer the right colour to print. If you don't want to by a calibrator yet then there are ways to calibrate a monitor without one, but a calibrator is better, and really easy to use.
 
As said, turn off all control on printer and let photoshop manage it for you, calibration of your monitor is key, it will never print how you see it until its all calibrated
 
can i just say the colours on the monitor are the correct colours for the item photographed so does that mean the printer needs calibration or the monitor?
 
Best practice is to calibrate your monitor with a spyder or x-rite product , then use the correct ICC profile for your paper and ink with your printer , I use permajet paper who provide there own ICC profilers for the paper and printer I use
 
billozz said:
can i just say the colours on the monitor are the correct colours for the item photographed so does that mean the printer needs calibration or the monitor?
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It means if you want to print what you see on screen then let photoshop manage colours, put in the correct paper profile in the photoshop print dialogue and then disable colour management in the printer dialogue... If you follow that and its still out then calibration is the answer.
 
You need to open the Print settings dialogue box. I'm on a Mac so it may be different on a PC.

For me in the print module of Photoshop select Print Settings. You'll then get another box open up. The menu ( for me anyway) is found in the drop down options in the box labelled Print options. From here choose Color Options. Select Manual set up and then click on advanced. You'll see the colour sliders appear. Use these to trim the colour balance.

Calibrating and profiling your system is the ideal way to go, but you need to weigh the expense and time needed to accomplish this with the amount of printing you do.
 
gerry s said:
It means if you want to print what you see on screen then let photoshop manage colours, put in the correct paper profile in the photoshop print dialogue and then disable colour management in the printer dialogue... If you follow that and its still out then calibration is the answer.
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ok so assuming whats on the screen is correct and i follow the above instructions and it still prints incorrectly i assume its the printer that needs calibration, so which one of the calibration units will do the printer?
 
You will have to get something like the colour munki photo to calibrate your printer or use a company that can supply custom ICC profile, permajet and fotospeed both do this
 
Try the following for your Black and white photos
  • On the first (General) page, select Best Photo (farthest right) from the top choices
  • Select Plain Paper/Bright White Paper as the media - this is essential. Do NOT select the actual type of paper - you must choose Plain Paper
  • Select paper size and orientation (Portrait or Landscape) as required
  • Click on the Advanced button to enter the Advanced area page
  • Select Greyscale, High Speed, Edge Smoothing options
And yes do not use (printer manages colour)
Dave
 
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