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I know a lad who plays for my local non-pro Ice Hockey outfit and I jumped at the chance to go and take photographs as I generally love sport. I also love photography so what a great opportunity to make a really tasty sandwich.

I've written a small blog on the experience here: http://www.tomgreenphoto.co.uk/blog/2014/5/ice-hockey-photography

But essentially the summary is as follows.

Having never done any sort of sports photography before I tried to apply existing knowledge with 'common sense' to try and work out how best to approach photographing a sport as fast as Ice Hockey under the challenging lighting conditions of an ice rink. I think I did OK but on reading posts on this forum and a few other blogs, perhaps I could have done a lot better in a number of areas.

Ice hockey seems to be a popular sport on here and there are some very talented folks on here who's experience I would like to tap into.

Firsty, RAW vs JPEG. Given the number of images I thought JPG best, but perhaps as a beginner I should be going for RAW, just for added elbow room in post as I'm not tied to any stringent editorial guidelines or anything like that.

Secondly, shooting settings. I've basically gone with the rule that if a fast shutter speed is required and high ISO needed, shoot wide open, so pretty much everything I've shot has been at f/2.8. The general opinion online seem to be that f/4 or f/5.6 should be used where possible to allow more depth of field. There are a few shots where I've focused on a stick or other area just away from the face and therefore had to bin the shot for poor focus, but that really hasn't happened too often, so wondered what other thoughts are on that.

Focus set up. I have a Nikon so I've gone for AF-C (continuous) with back button focusing (AF-ON), single point in the top/middle of the frame and aimed this at the players heads. It has been suggested to me that auto area might actually work out easier to use with a reduced number of focus points for increased speed (say, 11) or that I should just rely on 3D tracking as it can be uncannily accurate. I must admit there is a level of handing over control the camera with 3D tracking that I haven't trusted or used before, but perhaps I should. I use a D3s so there certainly isn't any good reason why not.

ISO wise I seem to have found myself at 6400 more often than not, I certainly haven't got down to 3200 or even 2000 which seem to be used successfully by others I've read about in blogs, perhaps I'm giving too much bias to the shutter speed and over egging that. Do people have a general minimum they stick to shutter speed wise? I'm of the mind that lighting will differ and it might well just be a bit darker where my team play, but do those on here that don't shoot ice hockey at a non pro level have any comment regarding an effective shutter speed and lower ISO combination they've used where lighting hasn't perhaps been as light as it might be?

That's it for now, I'm sure I'll come up with some more questions.

Cheers.

Tom
 
I shoot ice hockey and most of eh t I know has come from the pros on here.

I shoot in manual at 800 or 1000th shutter speed, f2.8, AI Servo (canon), iso 5000 to 6400. I also compensate with about a stop.

Depends on the rink really but many are quite dark.

Tracking focus in the centre with bbf means you may have to crop a bit.

Practise helps a lot so you can anticipate the action.

Enjoy.
 
I shoot in manual at 800 or 1000th shutter speed, f2.8, AI Servo (canon), iso 5000 to 6400. I also compensate with about a stop.

Depends on the rink really but many are quite dark.

Thanks Duncan.

I think the rinks probably just dark, like you say. Probably dreaming if I think I can get the ISO range down. Like you say, I've been up 5000 - 6400 myself.
 
Your shooting at Alty? I do a lot at Blackbunr.. Its 2009 the last time I went to altrincham..I had a casnon 1dmkIII was shooting at iso 2500 f2.8 and 640 shutter.. I wasnt happy going nay higher on the mkIII

like I say.. 2009 and 5 yrs later I get a bit better at ice hockey :) http://www.kipax.com/gallery/index.php?album=HOCKEY/498/
 
Any money to be made with Ice Hockey?

Am moving 'oooop North' and will be not too far from Sheffied
 
I cover for local paper and I enjoy Ice hockey.. other than that I wouldn't bother.... deffo not worth it for money...loads shooting it at this level and theres lots of restrictions at top level and still not a money maker...
 
Ok thanks Tony
 
Your shooting at Alty? I do a lot at Blackbunr.. Its 2009 the last time I went to altrincham..I had a casnon 1dmkIII was shooting at iso 2500 f2.8 and 640 shutter.. I wasnt happy going nay higher on the mkIII

like I say.. 2009 and 5 yrs later I get a bit better at ice hockey :) http://www.kipax.com/gallery/index.php?album=HOCKEY/498/

Alti yeah :)

Just had a look back at my exif now, seems I'd settled on 1/1600 for a lot of what I shot so there certainly is room to slow the shutter speed down if 640 can be fast enough. Thank you, and thanks for the link. There are a few in there where there is actually slight movement in the stick and puck which I think looks quite effective. You prefer to be low and through the glass too by the look of it? 70-200/2.8?
 
You prefer to be low and through the glass too by the look of it? 70-200/2.8?

I never shoot through the plexi.. its horrible...all the ice hockey before this year was with a 300... if you go in seats and shoot over with a long lens.. it gives the appearence of being on same level as players. its a distance elivation thing?... i got rid of my 300 for a 400 which is too long.. so now its 70-200 but still over the plexi... get a good spot and a good angle.. if you look at my most recent from blackburn not the scotland set.. you will see all done over plexi... much clearer shots :)

you lose a 3rd of the ice directly under you.. but theres rarely anyhting going to happen there that doesnt happen at the other side..so :)
 
i prefer 1/800 minimum now my equipment more up to the job :)
 
Ive shot tonnes of ice hockey over the years, covered Telford Tigers, Sheffield Steeldogs and a few stints at Elite League Coventry Blaze.
Generally shoot around 400th @ f2.8 and around ISO1600 depending on the rink lights using my D3
Always set a custom white balance too.
Sadly dont get too shoot much sport anymore due to work commitments :(
 
I wish I had such steady hands, I can only capture the action at 1/800 or even 1/1000. No wonder you can drop your ISO to 1600.
 
I shoot in Gillingham and you don't have a great deal of option but to shoot through the plexi, and there's only a couple of clean bits in the rink. Other than that, if it's a rec game or a junior game you can sit in the front corner by the bench and shoot through the gap in the benches. But for the senior teams those areas are packed, the plexi is all you get. It is also a pretty dark rink, so ISO2500 or above and shooting at 1/250th or 1/320th is needed to get any sort of light into your shots at f/2.8

Its a completely different kettle of fish when we travel to somewhere like Peterborough or Sheffield that actually have lights in their rink!
 
Great little blog there Tom. I'd be pleased with those photos if I were you. You still up for 28th?
 
Great little blog there Tom. I'd be pleased with those photos if I were you. You still up for 28th?

Yes, I was, and I was. (y)

Anyway, back on subject, I'm back at Alti today so I'm going to and implement some of the advice in this thread and see how it goes. If I find I can get away with 1/640, I'll be a happy chap. Will post to the thread again when I've been through post etc.

Thanks again to all those who've replied.
 
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