The Ultimate Car Rig Photography Thread!

Nope, got a huge boot but no sunroof, it won't fit 2m in

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Ok!! So options are A) Feed it through the front windows so it sticks out the sides but that could take out a cyclist! or B) use your suction cups and attach it to the outside of the car via clamps and suction cups for storage !
 
To be fair I know people who clamp the boom to the roof bars of an estate and carry it that way.
I've no problem with the estate car, that would fit easily inside my Mazda 6 tourer, just doesn't work well with smaller cars such as the tvr or mx-5.
The MX-5 gets used occasionally as it's such an easy car to use as a chase car to add different shots to rig shots.. Either shoot from the passenger seat or rig the cameras onto the boot and remote trigger if I'm alone

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Some from last night! Really enjoying the new rig, wish my new parts would hurry up and be delivered. Ordered off the Car Camera Rig website 11 days ago and still not here!

Not the quickest delivery at all.











Sammy
 
Well my carbon fibre extension bar and camera bracket were delivered the other day so I went out with my friend's kit car to try them out!

Here are two I have edited so far...



 
Hi guys. What a great forum. lots of really interesting people. I'm looking into getting a rig, I've researched till the cows come home but I still don't know whether to make one myself or just bite the bullet and by a CCR semi pro rig. In a ideal world I would rent one, but at the moment CCR don't have rental partners.

Would anyone on this forum who owns a CCR be willing to rent it to me? I am a professional commercial photographer and would of course look after it as if it were my own. Could be a way for someone to earn some cash when they aren't using theirs.

All the best,
Rob
 
Made up of 162 cm sections. The main pole is 38mm with 35mm connectors.




Blue tape is there until I print numbers onto the poles. Still need to drill them to put bolts through to secure it.

Hi Micky. Looks like you have a really good looking rig there. I have been looking at ways to replicate the design of the CCR rigs, getting the carbon fibre tubes isn't a problem, it's sourcing the inner tubes to allow connecting the tubes together that is the issue. How did you achieve this? I see you said you used a 38mm with 35mm connectors, I can't see on any websites any carbon fibre that will fit snuggly enough, there is always a margin of .5mm, is yours a firm fit?

Thanks in advance,
Rob
 
I must admit, and I might be losing my marbles a bit here, that the CCR semi pro kit is starting to looking like something that is of decent value.

Matt, i make almost nothing on these semi pro kits seriously, i have them made in volume too. You just will not get a comparable boom made for less in single quantities pal. if the numbers aren't there in sales ill have to stop making them as its just not worth the effort stocking separate items. The semi pro rig really is good value, if this last batch of carbon proves difficult to sell i will discontinue it....
 
pro or homemade?

If homemade then have a read through the thread, I posted up everything you need.

If pro then have a look on RigPro or Car Camera Rig for their prices.

Sammy if you get a 6m Rig Pro from Andrew imported to the UK from the USA, it will cost more than the Semi Pro rig. So the question is for UK guy's rigging do i want an Ali rig or do i want a carbon rig....
 
Hi Micky. Looks like you have a really good looking rig there. I have been looking at ways to replicate the design of the CCR rigs, getting the carbon fibre tubes isn't a problem, it's sourcing the inner tubes to allow connecting the tubes together that is the issue. How did you achieve this? I see you said you used a 38mm with 35mm connectors, I can't see on any websites any carbon fibre that will fit snuggly enough, there is always a margin of .5mm, is yours a firm fit?

Thanks in advance,
Rob

Rob off the shelf carbon tube is +/- 1.6mm its just not up to the job @6m ask Simon Whyte the long exposure photographer he made his own and sold it on. What you're after is bespoke hand layed carbon tube with matched i.d.'s and o.d.'s you cannot buy it off shelf no one makes it. If you want to make your own you need to contact a CF manufacturer to make it for you to your spec.... On low volume its gonna be expensive, i would be more worried about having to sell it on afterwards because the 'I beam' calcs are just wrong for what your trying to achieve. I try to help people as much as i can but at the end of the day sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet....
 
Hi Micky. Looks like you have a really good looking rig there. I have been looking at ways to replicate the design of the CCR rigs, getting the carbon fibre tubes isn't a problem, it's sourcing the inner tubes to allow connecting the tubes together that is the issue. How did you achieve this? I see you said you used a 38mm with 35mm connectors, I can't see on any websites any carbon fibre that will fit snuggly enough, there is always a margin of .5mm, is yours a firm fit?

Thanks in advance,
Rob

For a 38mm o.d. beam the effective workable length for what we need to achieve in terms of a sharp image is approx 3m! But with that wall thickness of 1.5mm you wont stop the sideways movement even with a stabilizer wire.
 
Hi guys. What a great forum. lots of really interesting people. I'm looking into getting a rig, I've researched till the cows come home but I still don't know whether to make one myself or just bite the bullet and by a CCR semi pro rig. In a ideal world I would rent one, but at the moment CCR don't have rental partners.

Would anyone on this forum who owns a CCR be willing to rent it to me? I am a professional commercial photographer and would of course look after it as if it were my own. Could be a way for someone to earn some cash when they aren't using theirs.

All the best,
Rob

Rob i asked a few local clients to rent there pro CF rig to you, unfortunately no body is willing.
 
After a couple of years absence from here (work, life etc.) I found this thread whilst looking for other peoples impressions of CCR's semi-pro rig a couple of weeks back before I purchased one. I just want to give my feedback on the purchase, the product and the service from CCR. A little bit of my history first...

I work as a full time automotive photographer. Mostly editorial, but branching into commercial and PR work this year. About four / five years ago I built my own custom 5m aluminium rig with two Hague mounts and a magic arm. I think I used it at most five times over the years. It was difficult to assemble, it was heavy and it suffered awful bounce. Because of the weight, I needed to keep the suction cups as far apart as possible, which reduced the amount of rig extending off the car. More often than not, I would end up doing tracking or panning shots instead. Essentially, I had no faith in it.

I had looked at other options over the years and even tried to improve my own design but eventually wrote it off. I had spent a lot of money in materials, parts and fabrication. I still wanted rig shots though. The crux of this though was that I wanted rig shots that didn't look like rig shots. This meant I needed to go long. I ended up ordering CCR's 6M semi-pro setup as it had everything I needed, plus I could supplement some of my old rig parts to the new setup (super clamps, extra mounts, magic arm etc.) The reason I didn't go for the pro version was that I didn't want to invest too much money and then not end up using it. I ordered on a Tuesday, it arrived the following Tuesday (shipped to Ireland). I've only had it a week or so now, but it's already made a huge difference to my shoots.

First of all, it's easy to transport. The poles come with their own bag and I put the rest of the gear into an old camera bag. Everything fits into the back of my car with no issues. Secondly, it's simple to put together. The suction mounts grip like no other mounts I've ever used, the swivel adaptors and clamps are strong and of great quality. The poles simply slot together, and you can use the optional velcro to stop them from turning. No tools required to put everything together. Here's the rig being deployed for the first time...



This is a pretty basic setup which contradicts my above statement of creating rig shots that don't look like rig shots. I just wanted to get comfortable with the rig and learn its nuances. Once it's setup correctly, you quickly realise just how capable this semi-pro setup is. Previously, my rig shot exposures ranged from 0.3s to 2s maximum. Below, my first attempt with CCR's rig was a 5s exposure. This would be the fastest exposure I've used so far...



The front of the car is tack sharp, whilst the rear was soft. Justin's words were ringing in my ears that the longer the exposure, the sharper the shot. It sounds pretty counter-intuitive to a photographer, but when you think about it, it makes far more sense. The longer exposure allows you move slower whilst also allowing the car to burn itself into your sensor for longer. Second attempt below...





This was a 30s exposure. I went a little bit OTT with the editing but the car is sharp from front to back. Although it's probably not wise, the camera is left free during these shots. With my previous setup, there absolutely had to be a person holding the camera at all times as the weight of the setup was putting massive pressure on both the old mounts and the panels of the car. No such issues with the CCR setup. Once it's on, it's on. It's so lightweight that even with a magic arm attached, it's under no pressure in comparison.

I've only had the CCR for a week, but I already know it's going to become an important part of my setup now. It's ease of use and reliability has exceeded my expectations. Couple this with Justin's exceptional customer service and you're onto a winner. If you're sitting on the fence with regards this, just do it. You won't ever build one yourself for as little as this and to think so is absurd. I know this because I've tried.
 
Good effort Paddy,
What were your settings and camera / lens combo for these shots?
I would have been happier to see the rear mount, mounted on the windscreen keeping the mounts centre of gravity as near as pos central. It would help minimize extra camera movement, the kind you would see from mounting the way you have is a circular motion of the camera.
Its the same with guys using magic arms, they need to be kept hanging straight and not cranked over or in a bent angle, the offset weight makes the camera move in a circular motion.
 
today I was shooting a BMW carbon bike and had a mess about with the rig. First time I have attempted a bike shot.


Here is the shot with the rig, it was cable tied to the bike frame....






and with the rig removed...






Really hard to get it sharp but good fun and practice :)

Sammy
 
a few nights ago I was at a local car meet and got the rig out for a wee bit :)

This old school volvo was a great subject, especially with the volvo trailer he is making!

Here are the before and after shots :)

















Especially happy with the front on shot, probably my sharpest yet.

Just ordered an ND400 hoya filter so looking forward to trying it out during daylight to see how it improves things.

Sammy
 
So I took delivery of my Hoya ND400 filter. Yesterday was the first time trying it out! Man what a difference. Shots were so much sharper and being able to do 15, 20 and even 30 seconds in bright daylight was ace.

Here are a few...














Looking forward to more practice with it.

Next purchase will be a Hoya 77mm CPL that I will stack on top of the ND400 to hopefully improve the shots.

Sammy
 
I offer it as part of an entire service, you could make money out of it yeah, if you find the clients and are good enough at it, not just run of the mill stuff, lots of people have them and won't pay for average stuff.

Magazines like it as part of an overall shoot but lots don't have the budget any more really.
 
Hi all

Long time lurker here, and I finally got a rig together after over a year of dawdling. Here are my first 2 photos. Please let me know what you think, and if they could be improved.
Thanks.

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Rig consists of 2 x Manfrotto F1000, 3 x 035 super clamps, 1 x 143 magic arm and a 6.5m aluminimum flagpole. It was a bit wobbly but the photos were sharper than I expected.


Andy
 
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[/URL][/IMG] Hey, finially got on here!! Ive been reading this thread for AGES and got my first rig hum... Few weeks ago. Already got talking to sammy who has been very helpful! So any comments or suggestions on how i can improve my shots would be great. You lot have posted some epic work!

Think ive attached a photo correctly. If not what am i doing wrong? Ive copied the url from photobucket......

This shot Was inspired by van elder photography.
 
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[/URL][/IMG] here is a shot i took yesterday..... Still donnt think im uploading correctly.....
 



3rd time lucky to post a photo...if it loads let me know what you all think :)
 
Now i know how to do this i can post more!

Inspired by van elder photography i did my own take.....

 
Ive not done many rigs as only had less than a month so may as well post whst ive done so far. :)















The last skyline one im not happy with (too blury) so ill be doing that again :)
 
I'm lovin' the wall of fire on the Audi photo.
Some of them are a bit wobbly. I don't personally believe the car has to be 100% motion free, but I think some of those are just too blurred. What setup have you got?
I just started last week and my pole is pretty wobbly, but I just made sure to let it settle down before starting, and then moved the car gently, and it turned out sharp enough.
Andy
 
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