Nikon D750 & D780

Enjoyed reading the DP Review. Following that, decided to give the 3D auto focus a test as hadn't yet. Just wow, can't believe how responsive it is. Sooo impressed with this camera it really is something else for the price point.
 
Swanseajack said:
I used just for general lens, I prefered the range on crop. I also had or tried Nikon 35 1.8g, 50 1.8d plus older D lenses, Tamron 17-50, Sigma 17 & 18 -50mm and for me and my uses it was a good lens and I never found slow. Maybe I got a good one.
Its not going to be as good as the newer lenses etc............, but for the price I would buy another. I thank Saheed and Gary had the older non BIM lenses and rated them better.
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Slightly off topic but I had used both the bim and non bim on the d800. Af definitely was better on the non BIM.
 
Livin The Dream said:
Enjoyed reading the DP Review. Following that, decided to give the 3D auto focus a test as hadn't yet. Just wow, can't believe how responsive it is. Sooo impressed with this camera it really is something else for the price point.
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Similar here, sat in the nursery whilst the wife feeds baby, one small spot lamp on the far side of the room. Our black cat comes in and sits near me at the dark end of the room, so dark I would never have previously considered attempting any sort of shot, the D750 nailed it pin sharp on his eye (at f1.4, 1/200, ISO12800).

3D tracking just about hung on even in these conditions, so presumably it's awesome in actual light.
 
Phew! I am glad I held off. If I do Buy it will be from shop where I can examine it first. An excellent camera ruined. I hope Nikon sort this out on newer d750s.
 
This is getting ridiculous and stupid. Look at the shots even that illustrate this phenomenon. Even if that line wasn't there they would be horrific in terms of flare. I have 2 of these cameras and can't replicate this shot at all. Its not surprising most people yapping about it don't own the camera.
 
shapeshifter said:
Phew! I am glad I held off. If I do Buy it will be from shop where I can examine it first. An excellent camera ruined. I hope Nikon sort this out on newer d750s.
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An excellent camera ruined ? There is a consistent string of nonsense that spurts from your posts on this thread
 
All this flare thing won't be a problem for me, in all the years of owing a dSLR I have only managed to make it happen once, and that was last week on my D300s when I thought I'd try and replicate it in conditions and methods I would never shoot in :)
 
shapeshifter said:
These videos and threads don't lie..D750 defective. Have a look at this thread http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1331716

The D800 or D4 does not do it. Videos are in the thread.
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I must have a special model that is exempt then. In all seriousness its people like you that really make me cringe on forums. How many people do you think own this camera and don't have issues that you keep yapping on about ?

I will keep trying my best to replicate this flare issue just for you matey
 
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F/1.4 said:
This is getting ridiculous and stupid. Look at the shots even that illustrate this phenomenon. Even if that line wasn't there they would be horrific in terms of flare. I have 2 of these cameras and can't replicate this shot at all. Its not surprising most people yapping about it don't own the camera.
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I had thought about upgrading to the D750 but this put me off for now - at least until the problem was identified (which it looks like it has with improper alignment of the AF module) and a fix sorted including a recall of affected bodies.
Once Nikon confirm the problem and then advise all future bodies are fixed then I will reconsider the upgrade. Until then it's not worth it in my opinion. I've had a faulty brand new body before and Nikon fixed it no problem but it was always at the back of my mind that it had been faulty and I never really trusted it after that.
None of my photography is paid but I would be mighty annoyed if a fault like that occurred on something I bought new and used to earn my keep.
 
I have a D750, undoubtedly an early serial no. 6004019 bought on 30/9. It suffers quite badly from this dark band problem. Having now seen a few posts on the subject, I've only just realised that the admittedly very few shots that exhibit the problem are not somehow my problem, but the camera's. I've confirmed it's exactly as being reported simply by using a torch this evening. It's extremely easy to reproduce (with a 24mm AF-D lens). I haven't yet bothered to check it with other lenses, hood on or off.

I also have a Df (fortunately!) and that has a completely different shutter design with what appears to be a retracting "shade" over the sensor module just where that guy in the video above placed a blanking piece. I've used the Df all summer with many seriously backlit images and no problems at all.

In one of the videos above, it's suggested that protrusion of the sensor module is the difference between "good" and "bad". Mine is not protruding in the slightest but it's still "bad". To me, it seems like a design short-cut rather than a manufacturing issue. Perhaps that's how they enabled that "wonderful" 1fps increase in continuous shooting compared with the Df?

The D750 is a UK body, bought from a UK retailer, so I have no doubt I'll be able to get it fixed but it's irritating.

Is it possible that Nikon are remaining quiet because they don't actually have a fix yet? Perhaps we'll see tomorrow.

If I'm not happy with Nikon's response, I might just ask for a refund. In the three months since I've had it, I still pick up the Df as first choice most of the time so I won't miss it that much pending the D760 :)
 
How ever big an issue this really is its another bad mark for nikon. Whether they have been as bad as made out thats the d800/E d600 & d750 all having reported issues and in most peoples eyes it seems the 10's have just been how the camera should have been to start with instead of rushing so many bodys out trying to claw in some money. Nikon equipment really isnt holding any value nowadays due to this either. Canon may be behind in sensor tech in most peoples eyes but at least what they've have released has been issue free and lasted more than two years before being replaced. If they do bring out the reported 50mp camera and a 5dmk4 with improved sensor nikon is realy going to suffer even more. I had considered buying a d750 after xmas but how ever big this really is will be holding of now. :(
 
Personally I want one of these amazing cameras faulty or not faulty! I'm a landscape photographer so this fault will probably never ever crop up even if it does Nikon will fix it so all those people who haven't bought it yet and say this may put them off just stop and think will it actually affect me? If the answers no stop flapping and go and buy one and get out and enjoy it so what there might be a flare issue but this camera is amazing you can't take that away from it
 
There are a lot of idiots about who like to go online and shine light pens in open ports in dark rooms and quote "I've discovered a light leek" and post a video on You Tube case in point the Fuji X-T1 in the real world your not going to do this.

Whilst there is no doubting some people are experiencing issues, many are not, myself included. A few weeks ago I wondered what all the fuss was about as I personally haven't experienced any issues. I've tried to replicate the issue and couldn't. Until Nikon make an announcement I'm not concerned about it. If they do they I will box it up and send it back so that if I sell it in the future this issue or non-issue won't come back to bite.

There is a lot of negativity about this at the moment but I'm seriously enjoying using this camera and love using it and getting some great results with it.
 
I can certainly duplicate it on my new D750 under controlled circumstances, but in the 1000 or so images I've shot with it in the past 2 weeks, I've not seen this problem appear once in any images. Not saying that it's not a problem (and I'm sure Nikon will be forced into some sort of action sooner of later), but certainly not a massive deal for me, but then I do always shoot with a lens hood on.

Interestingly, I tried to emulate the same with my D800 and D4, and whilst neither of them give the sharp edge to the mirror box flare that the D750 does, with the light source the same distance and position away from the lens on all 3 bodies, all 3 suffer similar flare issues to a lesser or greater degree when looking on live view ?
 
Blank_Canvas said:
There are a lot of idiots about who like to go online and shine light pens in open ports in dark rooms and quote "I've discovered a light leek" and post a video on You Tube case in point the Fuji X-T1 in the real world your not going to do this.

Whilst there is no doubting some people are experiencing issues, many are not, myself included. A few weeks ago I wondered what all the fuss was about as I personally haven't experienced any issues. I've tried to replicate the issue and couldn't. Until Nikon make an announcement I'm not concerned about it. If they do they I will box it up and send it back so that if I sell it in the future this issue or non-issue won't come back to bite.

There is a lot of negativity about this at the moment but I'm seriously enjoying using this camera and love using it and getting some great results with it.
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Totally agree mate, in the real world its not easy to duplicate, Im glad I got mine early, wouldve missed so many shots and memories, to me thats more important.

If it needs to go in it goes in but I havent seen any need to send mine in so Im not to concerned. People are whinging about the D600 but from what Ive seen Nikon is repairing free or even replacing with a FREE D610 replacement in some case, in my eyes thats pretty good customer service. All companies are using customers as test bases nowadays, its not right but its the way it is. We want cheaper products, released sooner, thats what happens.
 
pmac said:
How ever big an issue this really is its another bad mark for nikon. Whether they have been as bad as made out thats the d800/E d600 & d750 all having reported issues and in most peoples eyes it seems the 10's have just been how the camera should have been to start with instead of rushing so many bodys out trying to claw in some money. Nikon equipment really isnt holding any value nowadays due to this either.
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Have to agree, whether people have 'the issue' or not, the fact it is that it affects both Nikon's reputation and the reputation of the camera model. It just doesn't wash to say 'I can send it back for a fix', such an event should be a rarity not what is now almost becoming an expectation!
 
The people on here that say its a non issue are the same people I see have bought and upgraded to every new camera. Maby they are used in buisness or just have more money than sense. Im just an amateur and this is an investment for me to stump so muh cash on. For it to be replaced within under two years and be worth half/third of its price within that time due to bad reputation or replacement for minor improvement/ sorting a fix isnt viable for me. And this issue has only been on nikons new models.. There older models held there price alot longer as canon cameras seem to have also. Just the stigma of there being an issue is issue rather than what may actually be a small or non issue.
 
I've no doubt that as Nikon's new DSLR 'issues' go this is going to be one of the most minor in a sense, but after it's recent track record Nikon needs this issue like it needs a hole in the head and should start to look very closely and seriously at their QC processes. There will be many people watching very closely with interest in how Nikon deals with this situation as the internet will be the internet and it will make sure the voices of the few affected and disgruntled will be amplified for all to hear. Nikon's reputation with their loyal customers can either take a good polishing and shine up or a potentially disastrous punch to the guts here.

Such a shame as the reputation of the D750 was soaring beyond all expectation, but they are unfortunately reaping the seeds they've sown in the fields of the D600 (and D800 to a lesser extent). I've no doubt news of this issue wouldn't be spreading so rapidly if the D600 thing hadn't happened.

On a lighter note, my D750 seems perfectly fine and I think it's an amazing little camera :D
 
Well I've spoken to Nikon at some length. They acknowledge that the D750 suffers from the bar across the top of the image in back lit images. It is a characteristic of the D750's design that they can do nothing about. The service department had taken a few returns but were unable to rectify it.
So, if you like to take back lit images with the light source be it the sun, flash or any other source at the top of the frame, don't buy a D750. Apart from that it's a great camera but I would never have bought mine if I'd known about it.
 
Does that explain how (apparently) later serial numbers don't suffer from it. Is there actually proof of that being the case or just further internet rumour?
 
Where is Gary Coyle? He sent his D750 back for repair.I will be interested to see IF it can be repaired or is just something you end up stuck with.If it is a design fault it may mean nothing can be done.It was looking such a good camera.

See two posts back.I was right.
 
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Yes I'll be interested to hear some feedback from Gary. Frankly I was surprised at Nikon UK's ready acknowledgement that there is indeed an issue which is a characteristic of the design and not a production QA problem as has been bandied around. Quite a refreshing attitude but not very helpful to me.
 
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Radiohead said:
Does that explain how (apparently) later serial numbers don't suffer from it. Is there actually proof of that being the case or just further internet rumour?
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Agreed, obviously Nikon will deny a fix at this stage, lets wait and see I guess.
 
As I said in my original post, my D750 is "GOOD" according to that criteria which may be based on a sample of two for all we know. Is there anyone on this forum that actually owns a D750 which they have tested and which doesn't exhibit the problem? I suggest the best way to objectively test is to put the camera in live view and introduce a small torch shining towards the lens, slightly downwards and just enough out of frame to cause flare. The shadow like bar across the top of the frame becomes easily visible in the live view. I'm not sure to what extent the ambient light or background affects it. I imagine lower light levels just make it easier to see the contrast of the bar against the background.
 
Radiohead said:
'The issue can be eliminated/ignored if you use a lens hood to prevent lens flares'

I always use a hood anyway.
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If that were the case it would make matters a bit better but still not right.I have seen a post or test somewhere that says it is the same with a lens hood on.We need someone to do a test.
 
geriatrix said:
As I said in my original post, my D750 is "GOOD" according to that criteria which may be based on a sample of two for all we know. Is there anyone on this forum that actually owns a D750 which they have tested and which doesn't exhibit the problem? I suggest the best way to objectively test is to put the camera in live view and introduce a small torch shining towards the lens, slightly downwards and just enough out of frame to cause flare. The shadow like bar across the top of the frame becomes easily visible in the live view. I'm not sure to what extent the ambient light or background affects it. I imagine lower light levels just make it easier to see the contrast of the bar against the background.
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Try as hard as I can I can't make mine do it. I've tried with low winter sun, a very bright Cree torch and very bright halogen lights in a room. Liveview, non-Liveview. 3 different lenses. Hoods on and off.
 
shapeshifter said:
Can you point me to the post were you demonstrated "the D810 and all the other cameras posted that show the same issue" is I can not find it.I have been back 5 pages.Thanks.
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No, sorry, I havent got time at the moment, its there somewhere. Ive seen samples of a D610/D700/D810/D750/D7000/XT1/5D2/6D/NEX do it.
 
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If it is the shinning edge of the focussing screen causing the problem, as mentioned on the Fredmiranda website linked by @shapeshifter where they compare with the D800, I would try and run a black permanent marker over the shinny edge if it was affecting my camera.

See linky > http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1331716
 
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