There is a new 50mm coming out.

They've made some fantastic glass so far (more commonly known as Samyang in the UK), in terms of value to quality ratio they're pretty much unbeatable if you can cope with manual focus.
 
ukaskew said:
They've made some fantastic glass so far (more commonly known as Samyang in the UK), in terms of value to quality ratio they're pretty much unbeatable if you can cope with manual focus.
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could be AF ;)
 
Image quality. This company put out some very impressive optics.
 
I've just been looking at Samyang for Nikon on Amazon and they appear to focus (pardon the pun) primarily more on the extreme wide end of the lens market. Does anyone know if they do any mid range zooms as well? I was thinking of more in the 70-300mm range.
 
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I go excited - thinking it might be Rikenon, a PK-AF fit lens for the Pentax FF DSLR - then I stepped back to reality
 
welshwizard645 said:
I go excited - thinking it might be Rikenon, a PK-AF fit lens for the Pentax FF DSLR - then I stepped back to reality
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FF Pentax.....................:LOL::LOL:
 
don't laugh I have 2 full frame Pentax cameras. Z-1 and Z-1p....i'll carry on dreaming about a FF DSLR...:wink:
 
Stuart M said:
I've just been looking at Samyang for Nikon on Amazon and they appear to focus (pardon the pun) primarily more on the extreme wide end of the lens market. Does anyone know if they do any mid range zooms as well? I was thinking of more in the 70-300mm range.
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They don't make zooms no, but they make some of the best mid range lenses on the market, namely the 35mm f/1.4 and the 85mm f/1.4. They also have 8mm and 14mm wide angles, but I wouldn't say they focus on the extreme end at all.
 
shaylou said:
are you guys saying they don't make an auto focus lens and likely won't got this lens either?
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Samyang (aka Vivitar, Falcon, Rokinon, Bower, Walimex, Bower, Opteka, Bell and Howell, Polar, Pro-Optic) make a number of manual focus primes - but no zooms or autofocus lenses.

Usually the same lens will be marketed under the Samyang, Rokinon and Bower brands for different markets - although some lenses are only under one or two of these names. They'll often do a cine version as well (t-stops rather than f-stops, click-less aperture ring).
 
The 14mm and 85mm got a bit of a cult status and both have great reviews. I don't think either lens require AF as they are specialist lens as opposed to general walk about with the 24-70,25-105,17-55 etc are.

50mm f1.2 that's an interest focal lens maybe geared towards the DX sensor users more.
 
If it's the right price, I'd fancy having an f/1.2! MF shouldn't be much of an issue for a 50mm.
 
It could be a nice video lens for some but I couldn't care less. Anything over 24mm needs AF in my opinion. I'll just get the Sigma if I'm desperate for one, but now I'll just stick with 35mm and 85mm - far more useful lengths.

P.S. Video AF is already here in 70D, all the new bodies will only be better.
 
its rendering will be crucial, because its going to be competing against the old classics on ebay, ok its slightly faster but...
 
pingu666 said:
its rendering will be crucial, because its going to be competing against the old classics on ebay, ok its slightly faster but...
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It'll be new and readily available which is a big plus. But it won't have Zeiss writing (a dealbreaker for some :LOL:) and it will likely be built just as badly as their previous glass. I had to re-calibrate focusing on 14mm by removing and reapplying selotape!!!
 
daugirdas said:
Anything over 24mm needs AF in my opinion.
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Id agree with that, going to struggle to get anything in focus (unless they have all day and a subject that doesnt move), even if they used a mirrorless with a ton of MF aids. Definitely need AF at these kind of FLs and apertures.
 
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twist said:
Id agree with that, going to struggle to get anything in focus (unless they have all day and a subject that doesnt move), even if they used a mirrorless with a ton of MF aids. Definitely need AF at these kind of FLs and apertures.
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With practice you can get decent results but in an ideal world, AF all the way!
 
Sir SR said:
With practice you can get decent results but in an ideal world, AF all the way!
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You can certainly get better with practice BUT your hit rate will never be as good as with AF, and when the moments gone its gone, especially with people photography.
 
twist said:
Id agree with that, going to struggle to get anything in focus (unless they have all day and a subject that doesnt move), even if they used a mirrorless with a ton of MF aids. Definitely need AF at these kind of FLs and apertures.
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I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate.

Manual focusing including calling up the magnified view takes maybe between 5 and 10 seconds. It's an age and unusable for some shooting but one advantage of MF is that if you have the time you get to decide what the point of focus is to a degree which AF just can't match. As I've said very boringly here before, with MF and a magnified view you can pick your focus point along the length of an eye lash and you can't do that with AF. You can shoot moving things too, if they're not too quick or their movement is constant or if you can predict where they are going to be and wait for them to enter focus :D
 
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Canon's 50/1.2, 55/1.2, 85/1.2 and 135/2 were all usable in the days before cameras had AF and film costs made focus bracketing an expensive hobby. Stick a decent focus screen in a DSLR and we're back where we used to be....yes, there were more misses than when using AF but it's do 'able.

Bob
 
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