Beginner D3300 or D3200

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I've been wanting to learn more about photography for ages and decided to do it this year. I've got a course lined up for either end Jan or Feb, but want the camera in hand for a while first.

I've been looking at the d3300 and d3200 as these have been recommended to me by 3 different people.

I obviously don't want to spend a fortune, so I've been leaning towards the d3200, but I don't want to regret the decision, is the d3300 worth the extra £70-90?

I've found a couple of deals for the d3300 for £299 but I believe they are called 'grey importers'. Can anyone recommend a trustworthy site with good prices? Ideally I would prefer to buy locally, but due to where I live, that isn't that easy.

Thanks, sorry for rambling :oops: :$
 
Oh and what's the difference between these;

18-55mm VR II zoom lens

18-55mm VR II telephoto zoom lens

Each are advertised as coming with the d3300 and d3200 respectively and not sure if ones better than the other?
 
Can you Push the boat out to a 2nd hand d7000, you will find the extra controls on it will help you in the long run. As far as I am concerned both lenses are the same?
 
A Grey importer is somebody bringing goods into the country that is not part of the camera company's official supply chain.

The D3xxx series are limited in their choice of lenses. along with the D5xxx series, D7xxx series does not have the same limitation.

Oh and what's the difference between these;

18-55mm VR II zoom lens

18-55mm VR II telephoto zoom lens

Each are advertised as coming with the d3300 and d3200 respectively and not sure if ones better than the other?

Just advertising, they should be both the same

I understand the pride of a new piece of equipment however greater functionality can normally be acquired with the purchase of good 2nd hand gear.

Mike

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A Grey importer is somebody bringing goods into the country that is not part of the camera company's official supply chain.

The D3xxx series are limited in their choice of lenses. The D5xxx series does not have the same limitation, nor does the D7xxx series.



Just advertising, they should be both the same

I understand the pride of a new piece of equipment however greater functionality can normally be acquired with the purchase of good 2nd hand gear.

Mike


Neither the D3X00 or the D5X00 can drive lenses without inbuilt motors so both are limited in the same respect. Not that that is particularly relevant nowadays as most lenses you would want to buy have the motor inbuilt anyway.

To the original question, there is no difference between the image quality or the controls between the D3200 and D3300 so take a look at the other features and see if the extras are worth the money to you.

Personally I'd get the D3200 (or even a D3100, which is a really nice camera) and spend the extra on a 35mm f/1.8 lens.
 
Don't think I can justify the d7000, second hand it's still coming up at £400 and then I'd need to add a lens onto that, so £500

Was only wanting to spend £350ish

I can get the 3200 with 18-55mm VR lens from Currys for £218 (with 15% off £280 using a friends discount card and £20 cashback)

Or d3200 with 18-55mm VR and 70-300mm lens from Currys for £303 (originally £379 & using same discounts as above)

Or d3300 with 18-55mm VR lens for £302 (with 15% off £390 and £30 cashback)

Or am open to used bodies, if I can find a good deal. If anyone can point me in the right direction?

:ty:
 
Very little difference between the d3200 and d3300. My only thought would be the d3330 will have a better resale value should you wish to upgrade or find its not for you.

I've recently bought a d3300 for my YouTube channel and so far found it very nice to use. Compared to my d700 its a toy, but sometimes it's nice to have something small and light. Takes nice photos and has all the beginner modes should you want them. I also have the d5100 and the flippy out screen is useful, but not sure I'd spend the extra just for that.
You wouldn't be disappointed with either d3200 or d3300 but I think I'd choose the later body.
 
I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure from the lens code of that Sigma 70-300, that it doesn't AF on a D3200/3300!

Anyway, I recently got a D3200 for my GF for Christmas (which she loves) and I debated between the D3200 and D3300. General consensus was the D3300 wasn't worth the extra outlay. I'm pretty happy I got her what I did, I'm sure it would do everything you needed to get you going.
 
Hmm. Decisions.

I think I've disregarded the 2nd option, so I'm down to two with basic kit lenses.

Think I'm edging towards the d3200 and getting another lens with the saving.
 
For me when I looked at them, the main thing I noticed was the higher video frame rate on the 3300 but I didn't want it for video so didn't care. Also now see the higher ISO but not sure how much that really matters either. I haven't tried low light shooting yet but from searching it seems like the D3200 can handle it fine although I'd imagine you would want either the 35/50mm 1.8f to help which you seem to be thinking about getting anyway.

I got the D3200 and the only thing I've came across that it doesn't do is auto bracketing but neither does the D3300, seems like a simple enough feature but I guess there has to be a feature limit somewhere.
 
Maybe get both the D3200 and D3300 camera bodies, I did. :D

D3200 (has the optical low-pass filter over the sensor).. minimize moire and artifacts in images.
D3300 (does not have the optical low-pass filter over the sensor).. more sharper and details in images.

Cheers, John
 
Maybe get both the D3200 and D3300 camera bodies, I did. :D

D3200 (has the optical low-pass filter over the sensor).. minimize moire and artifacts in images.
D3300 (does not have the optical low-pass filter over the sensor).. more sharper and details in images.

Cheers, John


But can you actually see ANY difference at all?
 
DON'T BUY MORE THAN YOU NEED
On a strict budget; starting out; booked to do a course?
Second Hand D3100, apox £150 delivered from a reputable 2nd hand daler.
Nikon 35mm f1.8 AF 'prime', aprox £90-100 delivered from reputable 2nd hand dealer or about £150 brand new from one of the greys, eg: Value Basket. A 'fast' SD card, eg 45Mb/s, aroud 16Mega-Bytes ought to be enough, and costs about £10 off e-bay.

THAT, is actually the outfit I put together earlier this year for my daughter to finish her O-Level photography and do her A next year; all you need for under £300, and it'll be a LONG time before you need to make any serious upgrades.

AS you start to use that set-up, as you start to learn stuff on your course, you are likely to want to build on that 'core', and probably the first thing you will want is a tripod; then spare batteries and more SD cards; then depending which way you go from there, what you might add to the kit will start to be directed by what you are doing; for studio work, you are likely to want off camera flash and trigger sets; for landscapes; possibly a wide angle zoom, say a 10-20. For nature or sports, you are likely to want a longer telephoto zoom; for 'walk-about' photography something with a wider range than the 18-55, an 18-105 perhaps. It ALL depends.

The 18-55 is a very good, very versatile, and great value for money lens; but it is a compromise for 'consumer' cameras. As such, mine is probably my most used lens, but its ALWAYS lacking 'just' something; and for academic exercises likely to be set on your course, the 35mm/f1.8 is compromised only by lack of the 18-55's (relatively limited) zoom, but gives you a brighter view-finder, and that very fast aperture for low light and shallow depth of focus; it'll help you do 'more' without buying other lenses so soon, and for the teaching, it's limitations will more quickly get you 'learning' and learning better what you REALLY need to do the stuff you want to.

D3100? Does't have the sensor resolution of the 3200 or 3300, otherwise that's about all it lacks. Very good value for money body 2nd hand at the moment. Lower sensor res is little or no impediment; daughter is doing well enough with it's 'lowly' 16Mpix or whatever it is, for O-Level submissions printed up to A2 size; while smaller file sizes effectively make the SD card bigger, and the camera and card 'faster' not processing so much data.

Meanwhile; as you evolve your 'kit'; you will most likely want more lenses first; old fashioned mechanical devices, these don't 'date' or devalue like stuff in silicon, ad you can carry them over to 'better' bodies later, provided you stick to APS size sensor Nkon's, or buy strategically for 'full-frame' if you see yourself ever gong that way.. but either way; even if you completely change system, say go Canon, or MFT, or cash out completely.. A lot of the cash value will remain in them... it WONT in a body.. certainly not a brand new one. At £130ish a D3100 can 'almost' be treated as disposable; if you bought a D3300 today and tried trading it in tomorrow you'd likely loose more on the trade in price; while in the mean-time, you are going to be taking a LOT of photo's, clocking a big 'shutter count', taking lots and lots of 'duff' photo's by accident or on purpose, doing your course exercises and experimenting and practising, and the camera wont be stopping you do anything you need or want to along the way; so keep the cash the bank towards stuff that you are more likely to find more useful as you start to discover what you can do, what you like to do, what you what to do, and what you really need to do it.
 
I own the D3100 as well, it is a fine camera, and I will never sell mine. But my experiences with these camera bodies (D3100, D3200, D3300), there is a noticeable image differences between the D3100 14mp and the D3200/D3300 24mp sensors, enough so that I feel it's something worth considering. Cheers.
 
I was faced with the same decision and decided to go with the d3300 and 35mm. I know that somewhere down the line I will want to upgrade and hopefully get a little more back.
 
I was faced with the same decision and decided to go with the d3300 and 35mm. I know that somewhere down the line I will want to upgrade and hopefully get a little more back.

Emma1,

I think you will find the D3300 is a delightful and capable camera, it should provide many years of enjoyment capturing fine and memorable images.

Cheers, John
 
I have a D3100 at work and have owned a D3200 - for me the main difference is the image processor which changed between the two so the metering and jpg engine/colours are quite different.

I really like the D3100 - at the time I thought it was a good second camera to my D700 - very similar looking images.

The D3200 looked more similar to my D610.
 
I've got a course lined up for either end Jan or Feb

Looks like you've already received some good advice, but attending a course is a cracking idea. There's an oft quoted saying that you need to learn the rules before you can break them :)

Enjoy the course, your new camera, but most importantly your photography (y)

Cheers.
 
I have a D3100 at work and have owned a D3200 - for me the main difference is the image processor which changed between the two so the metering and jpg engine/colours are quite different.

I really like the D3100 - at the time I thought it was a good second camera to my D700 - very similar looking images.

The D3200 looked more similar to my D610.

Thank you Ned for the comparisons! I also have a D700, but don't bring it out too often to use, I store it away like a gem. :) ..Cheers, John
 
I had a D3100 before upgrading to a d7100, the 3100 was a great camera but it wasn't until the upgrade i realised how poor the lcd screen was for reviewing photos, both the 3200 & 3300 have improved on this.
 
Emma1,

I think you will find the D3300 is a delightful and capable camera, it should provide many years of enjoyment capturing fine and memorable images.

Cheers, John

Hi john, yes I'm really enjoying using it, I switched from a pentax kr which I found a little frustrating.
 
I had a D3100 before upgrading to a d7100, the 3100 was a great camera but it wasn't until the upgrade i realised how poor the lcd screen was for reviewing photos, both the 3200 & 3300 have improved on this.

Hi Matt,
Thanks for sharing your experiences! Below is a small list of Nikon camera bodies showing their lcd specs.
Cheers, John

D40, 2.5in lcd, 230k.
D90, 3in lcd, 920k.
D3100, 3in lcd, 230k.
D3200, 3in lcd, 920k.
D3300, 3in lcd, 921k.
D7100, 3.2in lcd, 1229k.
 
I've got the D3300 and the 18-55mm lens. I have to say it's great camera, I was going to go for the 3200 but decided to plump for the later body. I'm now thinking though I should have got a body and a wider lens as that's mainly what I want to use the camera for eventually, nice wide angle landscape and architecture shots :)
 
I've got the D3300 and the 18-55mm lens. I have to say it's great camera, I was going to go for the 3200 but decided to plump for the later body. I'm now thinking though I should have got a body and a wider lens as that's mainly what I want to use the camera for eventually, nice wide angle landscape and architecture shots :)

There are several lens options I can think of..

Nikon AF-S DX 12-24mm f/4G lens (I read this lens is very good with minimal distortions).

Nikon AF-S DX 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5G lens (I have this lens, it is a good lens but I suspect it's not as good as the 12-24mm. But when used at 10mm and f/3.5, it is very useful. I do recommend this lens if need wider than the 12-24mm).

Sigma 8-16mm f/4.5-5.6 lens (This lens is even wider than the above two. This lens is highly recommended by a friend, and I'm seriously considering buying one).

Hope this helps, Cheers :)
 
There are several lens options I can think of..

Nikon AF-S DX 12-24mm f/4G lens (I read this lens is very good with minimal distortions).

Nikon AF-S DX 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5G lens (I have this lens, it is a good lens but I suspect it's not as good as the 12-24mm. But when used at 10mm and f/3.5, it is very useful. I do recommend this lens if need wider than the 12-24mm).

Sigma 8-16mm f/4.5-5.6 lens (This lens is even wider than the above two. This lens is highly recommended by a friend, and I'm seriously considering buying one).

Hope this helps, Cheers :)

Thanks, I have been looking around but it's just cost now, I don't have the funds available to invest in one just yet!
 
Thanks, I have been looking around but it's just cost now, I don't have the funds available to invest in one just yet!

I completely understand, I think most of us are not born with a silver spoon in our mouths. I thought of another lens for consideration, this lens is being discontinued, but is of good value.

Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6D lens

Cheers :)
 
I completely understand, I think most of us are not born with a silver spoon in our mouths. I thought of another lens for consideration, this lens is being discontinued, but is of good value.

Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6D lens

Cheers :)
Funnily enough I have been researching this lens this morning after seeing a few people buying them on FB. Few and far between at the moment though! Thanks!
 
ive used the d3000 a few years back - just with the 18-55 kit lens – I was pretty happy with it to be fair. then i upgraded to teh D5200 and now I'm ready for something better like the d750.

You can see some of my images with the link below. Id say the d3200 or d3200 is a great first camera to see if you are serious about doing more photography however if you know that you're already serious I'd try and push for a second hand d7100/d7200 or equivalent … Good luck

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpalmersmallmoments/
 
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Just aquired a d3200 double lens kit for 100 pounds so am enjoying playing with it
 
DON'T BUY MORE THAN YOU NEED
On a strict budget; starting out; booked to do a course?
Second Hand D3100, apox £150 delivered from a reputable 2nd hand daler.
Nikon 35mm f1.8 AF 'prime', aprox £90-100 delivered from reputable 2nd hand dealer or about £150 brand new from one of the greys, eg: Value Basket. A 'fast' SD card, eg 45Mb/s, aroud 16Mega-Bytes ought to be enough, and costs about £10 off e-bay.

THAT, is actually the outfit I put together earlier this year for my daughter to finish her O-Level photography and do her A next year; all you need for under £300, and it'll be a LONG time before you need to make any serious upgrades.

AS you start to use that set-up, as you start to learn stuff on your course, you are likely to want to build on that 'core', and probably the first thing you will want is a tripod; then spare batteries and more SD cards; then depending which way you go from there, what you might add to the kit will start to be directed by what you are doing; for studio work, you are likely to want off camera flash and trigger sets; for landscapes; possibly a wide angle zoom, say a 10-20. For nature or sports, you are likely to want a longer telephoto zoom; for 'walk-about' photography something with a wider range than the 18-55, an 18-105 perhaps. It ALL depends.

The 18-55 is a very good, very versatile, and great value for money lens; but it is a compromise for 'consumer' cameras. As such, mine is probably my most used lens, but its ALWAYS lacking 'just' something; and for academic exercises likely to be set on your course, the 35mm/f1.8 is compromised only by lack of the 18-55's (relatively limited) zoom, but gives you a brighter view-finder, and that very fast aperture for low light and shallow depth of focus; it'll help you do 'more' without buying other lenses so soon, and for the teaching, it's limitations will more quickly get you 'learning' and learning better what you REALLY need to do the stuff you want to.

D3100? Does't have the sensor resolution of the 3200 or 3300, otherwise that's about all it lacks. Very good value for money body 2nd hand at the moment. Lower sensor res is little or no impediment; daughter is doing well enough with it's 'lowly' 16Mpix or whatever it is, for O-Level submissions printed up to A2 size; while smaller file sizes effectively make the SD card bigger, and the camera and card 'faster' not processing so much data.

Meanwhile; as you evolve your 'kit'; you will most likely want more lenses first; old fashioned mechanical devices, these don't 'date' or devalue like stuff in silicon, ad you can carry them over to 'better' bodies later, provided you stick to APS size sensor Nkon's, or buy strategically for 'full-frame' if you see yourself ever gong that way.. but either way; even if you completely change system, say go Canon, or MFT, or cash out completely.. A lot of the cash value will remain in them... it WONT in a body.. certainly not a brand new one. At £130ish a D3100 can 'almost' be treated as disposable; if you bought a D3300 today and tried trading it in tomorrow you'd likely loose more on the trade in price; while in the mean-time, you are going to be taking a LOT of photo's, clocking a big 'shutter count', taking lots and lots of 'duff' photo's by accident or on purpose, doing your course exercises and experimenting and practising, and the camera wont be stopping you do anything you need or want to along the way; so keep the cash the bank towards stuff that you are more likely to find more useful as you start to discover what you can do, what you like to do, what you what to do, and what you really need to do it.


Some good advice there, but have you read the OP opening and following posts????

Chippet states theres a course lined up for January or February and through cashback and discount the D3200 & 18-55 Lens can be bought new from Currys for £218.00??. Buying a used D3100 for approx £150.00 with no lens doesn't seem a good deal to me.????

I have owned the D3100 and it was a great little camera, but the newer ones are an improvement, especially for the little price difference. The 18-55 lens is also a great lens and people undervalue it because it's a kit lens.

The OP can then use the 18-55mm and find out if they prefer a focal range and whether that be 35mm or 50mm and then buy the relevant prime to suit there needs. It's what I did before updating to better glass when starting out. Pointless buying a 35mm when you shoot at 50mm. Also, the 35mm can also be bought for £136.00 new from Currys, so £150 grey seems expensive especially if the OP can get further discount from Currys.

IMO and due to the discounts from Curry's, in this instance buying new maybe the better option with the benefits of a new cameras brings, if going the D3200 route.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/camera...35-mm-f-1-8g-swm-prime-lens-08160378-pdt.html
 
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That D3200 + 18-55VR seems a really, really good deal. How would I get a 15% discount card from Currys?

BTW, a used 35mm 1.8G lens is around £100 and a used 18-55 VR would be £40 - £65. Lenses seem to hold their value well, bodies not so much, especially when the next model come out!

So, how can I get a 15% discount card from Currys?

Steve
 
That D3200 + 18-55VR seems a really, really good deal. How would I get a 15% discount card from Currys?

BTW, a used 35mm 1.8G lens is around £100 and a used 18-55 VR would be £40 - £65. Lenses seem to hold their value well, bodies not so much, especially when the next model come out!

So, how can I get a 15% discount card from Currys?

Steve

The OP gets the discount as their friend works there.
 
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