Olympus OM-D E-M5, E-M1, E-M10 - Mk1, Mk2 & Mk3 Owners Thread

damianmkv said:
I didn't really see anything too bad with the first 9-18 shot - it's certainly not one that I look at and think "OOF". Ok, it's not as sharp as the second one but I wouldn't be too worried
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Not sure why you cant enlarge the picture in Flickr, as it limits your ability to see what I'm talking about.

Niko: you wont see anything as there's nothing wrong, I only uploaded the first one to display an example of a soft image.

The rest demonstrate the image quality of the Olympus 9-18, 12mm, 17mm, 12-40mm & 12-100mm.
 
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snerkler said:
Does the exposure change as you move the AF point around?
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damianmkv said:
meter point on my mk1 is always in the centre, regardless of the focus point. I believe the manual ( that as men, we'll never read ) says so too
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Just been playing with the camera. The exposure does change as you move the focus point around but the circle stays in the middle. I think that is an excellent feature.
 
Idlefrog said:
Just been playing with the camera. The exposure does change as you move the focus point around but the circle stays in the middle. I think that is an excellent feature.
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TBH it's something that I'm used to, does the EM1 not have spot metering linked to the AF point then? I can't remember if my EM5-II did :confused:
 
Here are a few snaps I took with the new camera whilst walking the dog today. It was grey & miserable conditions on the hill so the light wasn't great. I have no experience in shooting running dogs or any other action and it shows. I think I should have had a faster shutter speed. I think the CAF is OK and that most of the issues were from me not keeping the AF points on the subject. I had a brief go with AF tracking but not enough to come to any conclusions. I managed to shoot 750 photos in under an hour. The high speed shooting is ridiculous. It takes forever to go through the images. I think I will investigate back button focussing and see if I can keep it focussing on something moving with that and just shoot single exposures.

I made an album with a few more test shots in here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/idlefrogphoto/albums/72157679317510275

_1180112.jpg by Andrew Reynolds, on Flickr


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url=https://flic.kr/p/QM7qPU]_1180302.jpg[/url] by Andrew Reynolds, on Flickr
 
Idlefrog said:
Here are a few snaps I took with the new camera whilst walking the dog today. It was grey & miserable conditions on the hill so the light wasn't great. I have no experience in shooting running dogs or any other action and it shows. I think I should have had a faster shutter speed. I think the CAF is OK and that most of the issues were from me not keeping the AF points on the subject. I had a brief go with AF tracking but not enough to come to any conclusions. I managed to shoot 750 photos in under an hour. The high speed shooting is ridiculous. It takes forever to go through the images. I think I will investigate back button focussing and see if I can keep it focussing on something moving with that and just shoot single exposures.

I made an album with a few more test shots in here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/idlefrogphoto/albums/72157679317510275

_1180112.jpg by Andrew Reynolds, on Flickr


_1180706.jpg by Andrew Reynolds, on Flickr


url=https://flic.kr/p/QM7qPU]_1180302.jpg[/url] by Andrew Reynolds, on Flickr
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750 shots in an hour? That's proper machine gun shooting ;)
 
So finally got to test my new EM1 out yesterday and I'm getting a strange noise from it when I'm just holding it. I don't believe it's the IBIS as I can hear that when I half press the shutter, and it sounds slightly different to me. It's similar but also slightly crackly like static from an old radio if that makes sense? I've turned off the Auto/Constant AF so does anyone have any thoughts what it could be?
 
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snerkler said:
So finally got to test my new EM1 out yesterday and I'm getting a strange noise from it when I'm just holding it. I don't believe it's the IBIS as I can hear that when I half press the shutter, and it sounds slightly different to me. It's similar but also slightly crackly like static from an old radio if that makes sense? I've turned off the Auto/Constant AF so does anyone have any thoughts what it could be?
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it could still be ibis as there are diff modes some on button press and some i think are continuous, not 100% but if you go in to the setting it should show up. try turning it off totally and see
 
snerkler said:
So finally got to test my new EM1 out yesterday and I'm getting a strange noise from it when I'm just holding it. I don't believe it's the IBIS as I can hear that when I half press the shutter, and it sounds slightly different to me. It's similar but also slightly crackly like static from an old radio if that makes sense? I've turned off the Auto/Constant AF so does anyone have any thoughts what it could be?
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That's odd, just tried mine and only the AF noise when half-press button. Does it happen with every lens?

There's a thread
http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=30236

about the Mki but you've probably seen it.
 
niko said:
it could still be ibis as there are diff modes some on button press and some i think are continuous, not 100% but if you go in to the setting it should show up. try turning it off totally and see
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footman said:
That's odd, just tried mine and only the AF noise when half-press button. Does it happen with every lens?

There's a thread
http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=30236

about the Mki but you've probably seen it.
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Thanks. I've not had chance to have a proper play yet but I don't recall the noise on the EM5-II, and my first thought was to turn the constant AF off. I'll try turning IBIS off altogether and see what I get. It's not all the time though so no idea what provokes it. I'll take a look at that thread too thanks.
 
Fuguru said:
Loving the photos, do you use lighting and black background? :)
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Thanks. Yes, flash with softbox, and a reflector. The camera is sat on black perspex to give the reflection, and then I have a black towel behind. That being said the background isn't necessary as I underexpose the ambient anyway.
 
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snerkler said:
Thanks. Yes, flash with softbox, and a reflector. The camera is sat on black perspex to give the reflection, and then I have a black towel behind. That being said the background isn't necessary as I underexpose the ambient anyway.
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you should take the pics for oly, its the first time I've thought the silver om-1 looked good! the pics make the camera more attractive than the oly promo images:cool:
 
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Excellent photos of your EM1. I need to experiment with flash again.

My EM1 makes a slight noise whilst switched on if I hold it to my ear. It makes a louder noise when focusing as the IBIS kicks in.
 
snerkler said:
Thanks. I've not had chance to have a proper play yet but I don't recall the noise on the EM5-II, and my first thought was to turn the constant AF off. I'll try turning IBIS off altogether and see what I get. It's not all the time though so no idea what provokes it. I'll take a look at that thread too thanks.
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They all make a noise to some extent as the camera activates the IBIS system to hold the sensor in the correct place irrespective of if you have IBIS switched on.

My EM1 is definitely louder than my EM5ii and it can depend on what lens you have attached too (bigger lens = larger surface area to amplify the noise?). The Em5ii I have to press my ear against to hear it but my EM1 can be heard from a few inches, or from a lot further with the PL100-400 attached.
 
niko said:
you should take the pics for oly, its the first time I've thought the silver om-1 looked good! the pics make the camera more attractive than the oly promo images:cool:
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Thanks, too kind :)

Idlefrog said:
Excellent photos of your EM1. I need to experiment with flash again.

My EM1 makes a slight noise whilst switched on if I hold it to my ear. It makes a louder noise when focusing as the IBIS kicks in.
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Thanks, looking at the thread posted earlier it does seem normal tbh.

Nawty said:
They all make a noise to some extent as the camera activates the IBIS system to hold the sensor in the correct place irrespective of if you have IBIS switched on.

My EM1 is definitely louder than my EM5ii and it can depend on what lens you have attached too (bigger lens = larger surface area to amplify the noise?). The Em5ii I have to press my ear against to hear it but my EM1 can be heard from a few inches, or from a lot further with the PL100-400 attached.
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As above, I think it's normal. However, I don't believe it's the camera but the lens. The guy on the thread describes the same noise (describes it better actually; "like an old modem connecting") and this was the response he got from Olly.

"I have checked this phenomenon with OIMC colleagues in Tokyo last week,
This is noise from 12-40 lens which can not be avoided. As 12-40mm lens uses linear motor for focusing mechanism, it needs to be working time by time to keep its position and to be able to focus fast & accurate. Our R&D dept has checked it and confirmed this is not a defect."

I've not done thorough tests but when I've tried out my 45mm and 40-150mm I've not heard the noise, which does tend to confirm it's the lens. However, as it's only sporadic it's still not 100% confirmation. When I've held my ear up to the camera and then the lens it does sound as though it's coming from the lens though. I'm convinced it's normal anyhow, and maybe it'll get less as the lens 'beds in'. Certainly outside with ambient noise you won't hear it anyway.
 
Mornin' all.

Getting my em1 (mark1) today.

What online resources have people found useful for help in setting up the camera?
 
addicknchips said:
Cracking photos. I'm sure these would do well on stock photo sites.

Would like to see some more with a lens attached.
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Thanks. I'm confused, there is one with a lens attached, do you mean different angles with a lens?
 
Rapscallion said:
Thanks alsuser,

One problem, the lever on the back of the camera doesn’t seem to work, i have done a factory reset, tried changer the lever modes but no joy.

Looks like its going back to MPB...
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So if you flip the lever and then turn the control dials it doesn't change WB/ISO (by default) or whatever you have it set to?
 
Nawty said:
Lovely, I do like a telephoto landscape. How are you getting on with the camera (did you have any previous m43, I'm sure you said but probably a page or two back)?
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Thanks, yes I have an EM1 original and before that I had an EM5 original.

If you like the EM1 the you will love the Mk II. The controls are identical, it has an even better grip and is much quicker and quieter.

I prefer the tripod mount position on the old one. The new one has the hole nearer to the lens rather than central to the body so the tripod plate overlaps the front of the camera.

The new one has larger auto focus points than the old one too. I like smaller AF points so you can place them more precisely.

I haven't used it enough yet to know how much better Image quality is. Adobe Lightroom only had a beta version raw converter at the moment too.
 
Idlefrog said:
Thanks, yes I have an EM1 original and before that I had an EM5 original.

If you like the EM1 the you will love the Mk II. The controls are identical, it has an even better grip and is much quicker and quieter.

I prefer the tripod mount position on the old one. The new one has the hole nearer to the lens rather than central to the body so the tripod plate overlaps the front of the camera.

The new one has larger auto focus points than the old one too. I like smaller AF points so you can place them more precisely.

I haven't used it enough yet to know how much better Image quality is. Adobe Lightroom only had a beta version raw converter at the moment too.
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Have to say I was surprised how loud the shutter of the EM1 is, much louder than the EM5-II I had previously, and probably louder than the EM10 I had before that. Still nowhere near as loud as my D750 though :LOL:
 
Couple of quick queries about the EM1. Is it possible to 'store' AF points by orientation so that you can quickly change from landscape to portrait without having to keep moving the AF point? Also, is there any detriment to using antishock mode? I know with silent mode there's the risk of rolling shutter, but was wondering if there's any potential repercussions with using antishock?
 
snerkler said:
Couple of quick queries about the EM1. Is it possible to 'store' AF points by orientation so that you can quickly change from landscape to portrait without having to keep moving the AF point? Also, is there any detriment to using antishock mode? I know with silent mode there's the risk of rolling shutter, but was wondering if there's any potential repercussions with using antishock?
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No and no.
 
snerkler said:
So if you flip the lever and then turn the control dials it doesn't change WB/ISO (by default) or whatever you have it set to?
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Nothing, have factory reset, tried changing the lever settings for the 2 control dials as well as for the buttons on the left and it doesn’t change anything...
 
Be sure the mode dial is not set to iAuto!
That looks most settings to a 'foolproof' mode. Including the Lever.
 
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Idlefrog said:
I think the default setting is 0 seconds anti shock.
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Thanks, I need to look into the different antishock modes. My memory gets worse :oops: :$
Rapscallion said:
Nothing, have factory reset, tried changing the lever settings for the 2 control dials as well as for the buttons on the left and it doesn’t change anything...
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Does suggest a fault then unfortunately :(
 
I've just been setting up my EM1 during which time the light dropped in my lounge and when I looked at the LCD I saw a bright red pixel. Checked the viewfinder and it was there too. Dead/stuck pixel sprung to mind, although I'd expect those to be either black or white. So next thought was a hot pixel, but then I thought these were only caused by long exposure and due to the sensor heating up. I turned the lounge light on to investigate the issue further and low and behold the red pixel went. Turned the light back off and the red pixel re-appeared so it appears that it's a low light phenomenon, which I find very odd. I tried it with the lens cap on and the pixel's there clear as day.

I loaded the image into LR and when it first loaded and still showing the embedded jpeg the red pixel was there, as soon as the RAW processing finalised after a second the red pixel went. I then read on the t'interweb that LR automatically corrects for hot pixels so I tried again using jpeg and not loading into LR and the red pixel (actually there's 2) can still be seen, as shown below (full image and 100% crop). EXIF ISO 1600 f2.8 1/6s

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As you can see with the light turned on there's no red pixels
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So why am I get hot pixels in dark light?

I've only had the camera 1 week so do I return it, do I do a pixel map and hope it fixes it, or is it normal and I should ignore it? My only issue with sending it back is that the shop I bought it from have no other silver EM1's left and say they're unlikely to get any others so I'd have to get my money back and look to buy elsewhere, but there's only one shop left with them at the same price (and they have limited stock), everywhere else is more expensive. However, I don't want a duff camera so would rather send it back if it's faulty. I don't recall this issue with my EM5-II.


Edit: Actually one of the red pixels is still there on the lighter image, so I guess it's a case of whether I send it back or do a pixel map? Whilst I know it's not great having this issue, especially on a new camera, I guess Olympus put the pixel mapping there for a reason, and do I just use it and forget about it? Obviously if the pixel map doesn't sort it it will have to go back regardless :(

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