The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

The 1dx mk2 is not 6k and it has far more lenses in the tele side to justify its main usage
Then why not be happy with what you've got and stop whinging in this thread.

My God, the kit isn't even out yet and I'm sure there's an active Fuji thread you could be reading and posting in :D
 
Horses for courses.
specs and performances dont lie.

Now im not after a hasselblad medium format studio camera that can shoot 16fps like a 1dx mk2 does but all i want is something that can shoot well in the studio without gimping the AF ability and also have a bandwidth writing to the memory card greater then 5 pics in a row....

there is a lot to be improved on the a7r2 that an A9 could do .

A99 mk2 is the way to g but its A-Mount.
 
specs and performances dont lie.

Now im not after a hasselblad medium format studio camera that can shoot 16fps like a 1dx mk2 does but all i want is something that can shoot well in the studio without gimping the AF ability and also have a bandwidth writing to the memory card greater then 5 pics in a row....

there is a lot to be improved on the a7r2 that an A9 could do .

A99 mk2 is the way to g but its A-Mount.

Shame a fw update or 2 won't be done to fix the af.
Must admit I only did a few home studio shoots with the 55, baits 25 and 35 art and didn't notice a problem.
 
Shame a fw update or 2 won't be done to fix the af.
Must admit I only did a few home studio shoots with the 55, baits 25 and 35 art and didn't notice a problem.
They can easily fix my studio problems with the camera but not for the buffer rate :(

As said. If I could even shoot 20 frames before it runs our of buffer that would be great aka like the 5d4.

This is why I brought the 5d4. If the a9 comes out with a unlimited buffer rate of shooting 40mp files or more and come out with a 100-400 native lens. Cya canon.
 
I think we've had this conversation before but how often do you require 20 shots back to back writing to buffer in the studio? Even the 5 you're getting now seems to be not unreasonable? I've always shot family/child portraits in studio so nobody stays still but I don't remember a time I've had to machine gun? Also, are you shooting uncompressed Raw?

Edit - unless Sony include an embedded SSD I don't see how "unlimited buffer" could be anything more than SAR wishful thinking.
 
I think we've had this conversation before but how often do you require 20 shots back to back writing to buffer in the studio? Even the 5 you're getting now seems to be not unreasonable? I've always shot family/child portraits in studio so nobody stays still but I don't remember a time I've had to machine gun? Also, are you shooting uncompressed Raw?

Edit - unless Sony include an embedded SSD I don't see how "unlimited buffer" could be anything more than SAR wishful thinking.
The buffer fills quick even if you don't shoot in burst mode. My models tend to move every 1.5 seconds and I can get maybe 10 frames then it starts buffering! It takes longer then 1.5 seconds to transfer a single image into the card it seems.

Xqd cards from Sony have fast buffer writing and reading speeds as the d5 effectively has unlimited buffer!
 
Uncompressed raw

Do you not think that might be the issue then? Sony released the A7 with compressed Raw files and only updated the firmware to allow uncompressed after pressure and online moaning from pixel-peepers and sites like DPreview. Realistically, uncompressed Raw mean double-sized files that need to be transferred across the same internal bus in the camera for little gain in the real world.

Try shooting normal Raw and see what difference that makes.
 
Do you not think that might be the issue then? Sony released the A7 with compressed Raw files and only updated the firmware to allow uncompressed after pressure and online moaning from pixel-peepers and sites like DPreview. Realistically, uncompressed Raw mean double-sized files that need to be transferred across the same internal bus in the camera for little gain in the real world.

Try shooting normal Raw and see what difference that makes.
Won't I lose IQ?
 
Won't I lose IQ?
You should only notice the difference between compressed and non-compressed RAW's when pushing the files for extreme DR recovery etc. I always used non-compressed as I wanted the best possible files out of the camera regardless of the little difference.
Sony will resolve the responsiveness and speeds of the writing/buffer in the next A7 models, just like the Sony A99II and A6500 bodies.... the fps/buffer and image review times are more than most will need and that's using SD cards.
My Fuji XT-2 11fps / 30 shots RAW buffer is epic, doubt most will actually need more than that apart from the spec chasers or extreme sports professionals?
 
You should only notice the difference between compressed and non-compressed RAW's when pushing the files for extreme DR recovery etc. I always used non-compressed as I wanted the best possible files out of the camera regardless of the little difference.
Sony will resolve the responsiveness and speeds of the writing/buffer in the next A7 models, just like the Sony A99II and A6500 bodies.... the fps/buffer and image review times are more than most will need and that's using SD cards.
My Fuji XT-2 11fps / 30 shots RAW buffer is epic, doubt most will actually need more than that apart from the spec chasers or extreme sports professionals?
Yea im not after unlimited buffer rate but something that's like the 5d4 or fuji as a say
 
Won't I lose IQ?

I don't shoot an A7 but everything I've read online suggests you may only see improvement in images that are pushed upwards of 5-6 stops so if you need to do that with studio shots you've got your lights wrong :0)

Realistically, you're doubling your storage requirement for limited (if any) benefit.
 
Yea im not after unlimited buffer rate but something that's like the 5d4 or fuji as a say
Get a Fuji XT-2 with lovely Fujinon lenses..... job done......
Question.........

Fuji XT-2 costs £1399 approx, Sony A7RII costs £2999 approx...... will you be charging and making more money from your clients if you shoot with the more expensive setup? Will the client even notice editing / down sampled images from both side by side? ;)
:fuji:
 
Get a Fuji XT-2 with lovely Fujinon lenses..... job done......
Question.........

Fuji XT-2 costs £1399 approx, Sony A7RII costs £2999 approx...... will you be charging and making more money from your clients if you shoot with the more expensive setup? Will the client even notice editing / down sampled images from both side by side? ;)
:fuji:

There's nothing worse than a reformed GAS addict. I'm sure I used to say the same thing to you while you were carrying around £47,000 in Sony kit until you saw the light ;0)
 
Get a Fuji XT-2 with lovely Fujinon lenses..... job done......
Question.........

Fuji XT-2 costs £1399 approx, Sony A7RII costs £2999 approx...... will you be charging and making more money from your clients if you shoot with the more expensive setup? Will the client even notice editing / down sampled images from both side by side? ;)
:fuji:
Don't temp me...
 
There's nothing worse than a reformed GAS addict. I'm sure I used to say the same thing to you while you were carrying around £47,000 in Sony kit until you saw the light ;0)
Oh yes....... :D I still have some GAS with Fuji.... its just a cheaper alternative when GAS attack kicks in :)
 
Just switch back to compressed Raw and see what difference it makes to the performance versus the actual difference in output.
I would shoot compressed RAW to save space but I am not sure if it will give you much gains in buffer write speeds.
Also if you want to be able to review images faster, shoot RAW + JPG as the review engine uses JPEG's :)
 
Unless you're pro shooting sports or wildlife I don't really think there is any real need for more than 8fps. And the fps becomes even less relevant until there are native 300mm f2.8 glass and the like that would be used in such shooting genres.

I'm not sure why Fuji would stick another crop sensor camera between the x-series and medium format and look to charge the rumoured 5k for it. Surely a dabble in the fx mirrorless market is the gap they need to fill?
 
Next you will hear Sony announce a new e mount camera that has unlimited buffer. No gimped af for studio work etc. Pee off Sony. Stop spying on me
 
Won't I lose IQ?
Probably not.
They really had to wring out blood from the files to find the 'problems' in the initial RAW files, leading Sony to allow the uncompressed RAWs, but I bet 95% of users wouldn't need them or even see a difference.
In a studio they would be even less required, as massively high ISO isn't used.

Let us know how your normal RAWs buffer and if the camera can keep up with 1.5 second poses,
it is an interesting problem and I see why you are frustrated.
 
Ah - see you've got the other Loxia's. I've really enjoyed using old MF lenses on mine, and can really see the appeal of a modern MF lens. Just can't bring myself to spend that amount of money on one, when could get the Batis or GM for about the same...
 
The Batis I have is a super nice lens, takes great shots as you'd expect, equally the super sharp Sony macro, with autofocus that can be so useful at times;

but there's something truly satisfiying for me when using any of the loxia lenses.
The tactile pleasure of holding the metal and manipulating the rings, choosing the settings, and the magnified focussing view which pops in. The involvement needed to create your own photograph.
Ironic that the camera body is so light and the loxias feel so heavy!
 
Oh definitely - I've recently picked up a Vivitar Series 1 90mm f/2.5 and love the feel of it. The only real annoyance is having to press a button to activate zoom magnification, which isn't really a deal breaker! By contrast, the by-wire MF on my Zeiss 35mm is just meh.

Surprised Sony have only recently added manual aperture rings to their lenses, and part of me feels the Loxia's should have an auto-aperture setting at their price point.
 
Woofwoof ... [emoji23] Sorry your real name hasn't shown! I'm on the app.
Just a quick Q how big in the Novoflex Adaptor FD to Sony?

Have you got a picture on camera you can show me?
 
Just to jump in - I use the K&F adaptors, as they're all "dumb" anyway (no communication with the lens) there's not much difference AFAIK...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00LECYIWE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

The FD adaptor is pretty slim (compared to others like M42 or Olympus).
Happy with mine :)

I used K&F adaptors too, they are fine and good value.

Thank you guys, really appreciate it,
I'll have a look over these later in the day.
 
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