Nikon D750 & D780

Black and white boxing shots it is then
That's my thinking ;) Plus the background looks pretty mundane so hopefully black and white will 'hide' this a little.

Still will be a good experience though (y)
 
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Never tried that, is it an add on or part of PS?
Yep add on and works well, someone mentioned it in here I think, I can't tell you the name as I've just reinstalled Windows [emoji34] it's worth a look.
 
1/1000? Are you trying to freeze their adrenaline?
Seen a number of shots at 1/640 where the arms are blurred when throwing a punch. Sometimes it works but most of the time it looks pants imo.
 
Well I hope you smash it Toby.

Are you allowed to stand on the ring to take a few shots every now and then?
Thanks, I think it'll just be more of a learning experience though seeing what settings, focal lengths etc will work and what won't. Then if I get another chance I'll know what I'm doing and can concentrate on getting 'the shot' rather than faffing about ;) They're only three 2-minute rounds per bout but I'm hoping I'll find the best settings in the first fight so I can try and get some half decent shots later on. This might surprise you but I think I overthink things :LOL: ;)

I've no idea tbh about standing on the ring til I get there, if not I'll see if I can stand on a chair, assuming I don't p off any spectators ;)
 
From experience I found if you just stood up for a couple of shots every round then there wasn't much trouble from anyone. It just gives you a different angle of shot rather than shooting up at the ceiling all the time. The polystyrene fire proof tile thingies, air vents, lights etc kinda wreck the experience.
 
From experience I found if you just stood up for a couple of shots every round then there wasn't much trouble from anyone. It just gives you a different angle of shot rather than shooting up at the ceiling all the time. The polystyrene fire proof tile thingies, air vents, lights etc kinda wreck the experience.
Thanks for the advice (y)
 
@snerkler good luck today mate with your shoot. Im sure you will be a knockout :):)
Thanks, it's not until this evening but looking forward to it (with slight trepidation ;))
 
This boxing is tough :eek: And then to make matters worse there's a wall to ceiling full length window behind the ring which I shooting towards :facepalm: Hope it goes dark soon ;)
 
Lovely sunny day down here in the new forest - what better way to spend it then doodledashing!!! :)

mwwaaaahhhhh.... with my stolen lens @davekiddle LOL! ;)

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i will ask the silly question, why not move?
Because you're only allowed to stand in the none boxer's corners and the official tog took the better corner with his back to the windows ;)

Hands down the hardest photography I've done. It's so fast and unpredictable, you're dodging ropes, having the referee get in your way, having to constantly shift AF points on the fly, and then the bright window to start with and really low light at the end (was up at 10000 iso and 1/500). Learnt a lot and should hopefully be better next time. I'll be surprised if I have anything usable.

I do have to confess, the D500's AF system did work better in that it was more responsive. Not hugely but noticeable. Also the 10fps helped (although when the light dropped so did the frame rate). Just a shame it's crop sensor.
 
Go to the opposite side and have the window behind you if you can.
See my post above. I did get to go onto the opposite side for the last fight but it was dark by then anyway :LOL:
 
Looking forward to seeing some of your shots. Hopefully some keepers.
I'm not sure tbh. I don't think I got any of the 'perfect hit'. At least I'll have some of the ref announcing the winner at the end :LOL:
 
Because you're only allowed to stand in the none boxer's corners and the official tog took the better corner with his back to the windows ;)

Hands down the hardest photography I've done. It's so fast and unpredictable, you're dodging ropes, having the referee get in your way, having to constantly shift AF points on the fly, and then the bright window to start with and really low light at the end (was up at 10000 iso and 1/500). Learnt a lot and should hopefully be better next time. I'll be surprised if I have anything usable.

I do have to confess, the D500's AF system did work better in that it was more responsive. Not hugely but noticeable. Also the 10fps helped (although when the light dropped so did the frame rate). Just a shame it's crop sensor.

Interesting that you mention the AF and FPS as I'm sure when i was considering getting a D500 for equestrian it was posted that these were not a deal breaker.

Interested to see your shots.
 
Interesting that you mention the AF and FPS as I'm sure when i was considering getting a D500 for equestrian it was posted that these were not a deal breaker.

Interested to see your shots.
It's not deal breaker lol, was just giving a comparison on the two. And to be fair equestrian isn't that demanding on an AF system so the D750 is more than capable, as it is in more demanding situations. FPS, always nice to have more but you can run into the issue of having far too many frames all looking the same. As to whether it would help get the perfect leg position in equestrian? Possibly, maybe even probably but then it's down to the individual whether they want to sift through so many more files just to find that odd one perfect leg position shot that the D750 didn't get. With things like this there's still an element of luck that the camera fires at that precise moment. Even at 10fps last night I don't think I've got that exact moment I wanted, you don't realise just how fast boxers punch :eek:

Don't get me wrong, if the D500 was FF I would more than welcome the AF system and FPS, but to get that in a FF body you've got to get the D5 which is just so far out of my budget it's not funny ;) Plus, even this wouldn't be ideal for me as DR is 'poor' for landscapes :LOL: There's yet to be the perfect camera, and I doubt there ever will be. For me I'd still choose the D750, I like the FOV/DOF of FF and as good as the noise handling is of the D500, on initial impressions at 10000 ISO last night it doesn't look as good as the D750 although I will reserve full judgement on this until I've PP'd them.
 
It's not deal breaker lol, was just giving a comparison on the two. And to be fair equestrian isn't that demanding on an AF system so the D750 is more than capable, as it is in more demanding situations. FPS, always nice to have more but you can run into the issue of having far too many frames all looking the same. As to whether it would help get the perfect leg position in equestrian? Possibly, maybe even probably but then it's down to the individual whether they want to sift through so many more files just to find that odd one perfect leg position shot that the D750 didn't get. With things like this there's still an element of luck that the camera fires at that precise moment. Even at 10fps last night I don't think I've got that exact moment I wanted, you don't realise just how fast boxers punch :eek:

Don't get me wrong, if the D500 was FF I would more than welcome the AF system and FPS, but to get that in a FF body you've got to get the D5 which is just so far out of my budget it's not funny ;) Plus, even this wouldn't be ideal for me as DR is 'poor' for landscapes :LOL: There's yet to be the perfect camera, and I doubt there ever will be. For me I'd still choose the D750, I like the FOV/DOF of FF and as good as the noise handling is of the D500, on initial impressions at 10000 ISO last night it doesn't look as good as the D750 although I will reserve full judgement on this until I've PP'd them.

Good all round impressions!

If the D500 was FF I would have it straight away!

My trouble is with DX is that I like my 28mm and 50mm combo which is not quite possible on the D500 unless you go maybe 20/35 which is a bit of an inbetween and when I look at images both of mine and other peoples on here, the D750 just renders nicer (IMO of course!).

Maybe if the D760 comes out with a better AF system and slightly higher FPS it would be my perfect camera! But at the moment the D750 is pretty close!

Boxers punch on average 25mph (and up to 32mph has been recorded!). Average speed of a galloping horse is 25-30mph with up to speeds of 55mph). However boxers are damn hard to do as its blow after blow and you never know when the next punch will happen (plus you have 2 people!) horses are running in one direction and easy to track and much easier to predict!
 
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Pretty sure that was posted my @minnnt a few days ago.

Well the time has come, and whilst I've had a blast with the D750 and it being absolutely awesome, I've decided to box it all off and it's off to MPB to be replaced by a (a pair of) Fuji XT2. Been contemplating this a while so nows the time. May have a few odds and ends turn up in the classifieds over the next few days/weeks.
Go on then ... p*** off ... see if we care! :dummy:
Or he'll get knocked out :eek:
Oi ... you're not meant to be here any more :p

:nikon:

I'll erm ... :coat:
 
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Good all round impressions!

If the D500 was FF I would have it straight away!

My trouble is with DX is that I like my 28mm and 50mm combo which is not quite possible on the D500 unless you go maybe 20/35 which is a bit of an inbetween and when I look at images both of mine and other peoples on here, the D750 just renders nicer (IMO of course!).

Maybe if the D760 comes out with a better AF system and slightly higher FPS it would be my perfect camera! But at the moment the D750 is pretty close!

Boxers punch on average 25mph (and up to 32mph has been recorded!). Average speed of a galloping horse is 25-30mph with up to speeds of 55mph). However boxers are damn hard to do as its blow after blow and you never know when the next punch will happen (plus you have 2 people!) horses are running in one direction and easy to track and much easier to predict!
Yeah it's frustrating that there's so much choice and nothing perfect for every scenario. My wife asked me exactly that when I was explaining the difference between the D500 and D750, she said why don't they just make one that does everything. Maybe she should work for Nikon :LOL:

Interesting about the speed of a boxers punch, it seems faster than that, but maybe it is the unpredictability of it rather than outright speed? I know I was getting blurring of the fists sometimes at circa 1/500-1/640 shutter speeds. I wish they'd just stand in one spot rather than moving around so bloomin much :LOL: The other aspect that 'adds' to the speed it the close proximity. Shooting cars at Donington doing 120mph plus is much easier ;)
 
You're a lot closer to the subject with the boxing though aren't you, so that will affect how you cope with the speed of movement too. Plus it's the acceleration that causes the blur not the speed per say....your going from 0-25mph in a split second......jab, jab, jab thwack!....
 
OK, so here's a comparison of the noise handling of the D500 and D750 in poor light at 10000 ISO. Hopefully the links will work, I've made these private so they don't clog up my flickr ;) So which is which? I think the D500 stands up very well tbh, although for me there's a noticeable difference. These are 1:1 crops so don't think you can complain with either.

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No 2 looks considerably worse to me. I'd probably discard it. Not sure if in reality no 1 could be cleaned up, so even it's better that doesn't mean you'd keep it I guess.
I don't think they're bad to say they're at 1:1. At normal viewing the noise isn't really noticeable, although of course the sharpness, contrast and colours are obviously suffering. I think they'll clean up OK in post, certainly good enough for online viewing, and probably printing up to A4.
 
OK, so here's a comparison of the noise handling of the D500 and D750 in poor light at 10000 ISO. Hopefully the links will work, I've made these private so they don't clog up my flickr ;) So which is which? I think the D500 stands up very well tbh, although for me there's a noticeable difference. These are 1:1 crops so don't think you can complain with either.

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Can't check on flickr at work but I am hoping the top one is the D750?
 
OK, so here's a comparison of the noise handling of the D500 and D750 in poor light at 10000 ISO. Hopefully the links will work, I've made these private so they don't clog up my flickr ;) So which is which? I think the D500 stands up very well tbh, although for me there's a noticeable difference. These are 1:1 crops so don't think you can complain with either.

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I'd say top one is the D750, run them through the noise warehouse that I gave you the link for and see what difference it makes and post both before and after shots here. I'd like to see how they fair with this add on program.
 
Can't check on flickr at work but I am hoping the top one is the D750?
Lol, sure is. Not sure why folk say the grain is finer on the D500, looks noticeably rougher to me. Just going through rejecting most of the images in LR and one thing I've noticed, the D500 doesn't like exposure bumps in PP. Due to the window issue neither matrix or spot could meter properly so I ended up with a number of underexposed shots (I quickly worked out a good exposure and put it in full manual) and adding a 2ev exposure bump to a 640 ISO shot adds a lot of noise :eek: It's these little things that make the D750 such a good camera imo. Yes you should get exposure right, but if you don't it's very forgiving ;)
 
I'd say top one is the D750, run them through the noise warehouse that I gave you the link for and see what difference it makes and post both before and after shots here. I'd like to see how they fair with this add on program.
Will do later, if I can remember which shots these screen grabs were from :LOL:
 
Due to an impending change in personal circumstances, I need to sell my D750 and 70-200mm VRII. :(

It's only a temporary thing, however, and I'll be back in the game in a couple of months.

So anyone reading this who doesn't yet have a D750, or looking for a second body, keep your eyes trained on the classifieds over the next couple of days ;)
 
Lol, sure is. Not sure why folk say the grain is finer on the D500, looks noticeably rougher to me. Just going through rejecting most of the images in LR and one thing I've noticed, the D500 doesn't like exposure bumps in PP. Due to the window issue neither matrix or spot could meter properly so I ended up with a number of underexposed shots (I quickly worked out a good exposure and put it in full manual) and adding a 2ev exposure bump to a 640 ISO shot adds a lot of noise :eek: It's these little things that make the D750 such a good camera imo. Yes you should get exposure right, but if you don't it's very forgiving ;)

The D500 does do a great job there and how far crop sensors have come. However, it also shows that the D750 is a mighty fine performer, even though it's a bit older.
 
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