Godox Witstro AD600B TTL & HSS

I find the X1T trigger quite fiddly Richard, the thing I really don't like is that you set the stop you want then when you go to change it up or down you instinctively press the button and it scrolls up or down to the next group then you have to scroll and change again, it's very fiddly like that, unless their is a way of stopping this I don't know about, I do like the look of the XT32 though, the screen looks nice and big, do you get the same sort of problems with the XT32 as the X1T or is it just the way I'm using it ?

X1 and X32 triggers are like night and day, hopefully they will take the lessons learned from the X32 and build an X2 that incorporates them

Mike
 
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My thoughts exactly, and we're not the only ones - Godox is working on a revised X1T apparently. It's a very capable trigger with lots of features, but the ones you want to use all the time need several less than intuitive button presses, plus a good look at the screen which isn't great at the best of times and impossible to read from slightly above - which is where it always seems to be for me.

In contast, the XT32 has a much clearer screen with bold digits, easy to view, and power adjustment is just a direct click on the scroll wheel for the active Group. One touch, and it's done - you don't even have to look. For a different Group, press one of the five clearly labelled direct-access buttons (doubling to ten buttons with a longer press) and scroll to the Group (either back or forth), confirm, and then you're in (y) It's both easier/faster, but also perfectly logical so you don't get confused and frustrated when you go the wrong way and have to start again.

While we're on this, triggers are one of my hobby horses. They've generally just evolved into the often confusing mess we have now, as new features have been bolted on, and they could use a ground-up rethink. They are now the main user-interface, the part we use all the time (there's actually no need to go near the head itself) and also play a key role in what we think of the entire system. I'd be happy to pay substantially more for something with a tilting colour touch-screen or whatever, something really good.

On the other hand, the new Godox A1 iPhone sync thingy might paint the way forward via a smartphone app - there's a kind of inevitability about it. So just a tiny little linking device in the hot-shoe with everything controlled from your phone. It's actually already here. Needs a bit of work yet, but I think that's going to be the answer :cool:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MQJGkQpdXg

Broncolor Siros do something similar but what looks a lot better with their app for studio lighting albeit at probably ten times the price :whistle: back on the X1 trigger though, I did see some custom functions you can change which means you don't need to use the scrolling wheel to change channels, they look a bit more solid without the fiddling about.

View: https://youtu.be/dslZcu7oNJo?list=PLQndF4yTYK1kdHsFr2n_M9GxRwoh5XMt7


Broncolour app

https://youtu.be/DNiH4XZir-Y?list=PLQndF4yTYK1mVg8OBEBBmsUrOcyXfHmev
 
Cheers Tel. Doesn't Elinchrom also have a similar Skyport studio control app? Neither works for Godox though ;)

I like the idea of a big touch screen on an iPad or whatever, but I'm not sure how that would work on location. I just want something foolproof that'll do what I want, quickly and easily, and is sitting right in front of me on the camera. Godox XT32 is the closest I've got to that and TBH it has all the functions I need. I like the size and shape of it too, for use in the hand when setting up (y)
 
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Cheers Tel. Doesn't Elinchrom also have a similar Skyport studio control app? Neither works for Godox though ;)

I like the idea of a big touch screen on an iPad or whatever, but I'm not sure how that would work on location. I just want something foolproof that'll do what I want, quickly and easily, and is sitting right in front of me on the camera. Godox XT32 is the closest I've got to that and TBH it has all the functions I need. I like the size and shape of it too, for use in the hand when setting up (y)

Got to be honest I've never looked much at anything Elinchrom Richard, and yes the idea of touch screen tablet for changing settings does look very good however only in the studio, the thought of using something like that at a wedding is mind numbing to say the least, just something else to faff about with, incidentally I have just changed the settings on both of my X1s and it makes a hell of a difference, no more scrolling up and down with the wheel for groups, just press the group button and it's done, only have to scroll to change the power output to the flash now, so much easier :)
 
Got to be honest I've never looked much at anything Elinchrom Richard, and yes the idea of touch screen tablet for changing settings does look very good however only in the studio, the thought of using something like that at a wedding is mind numbing to say the least, just something else to faff about with, incidentally I have just changed the settings on both of my X1s and it makes a hell of a difference, no more scrolling up and down with the wheel for groups, just press the group button and it's done, only have to scroll to change the power output to the flash now, so much easier :)

As per the video you linked? Sweet (y)

Edit: and here's another remote control app via smartphone/tablet, just announced today from Hensel http://flashhavoc.com/hensel-nova-d-dl-wifi-support-added/ But the more I think about it, the less appealing this becomes for location work - it'd be like changing shutter speed or aperture via smartphone. Daft really.
 
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As per the video you linked? Sweet (y)

Edit: and here's another remote control app via smartphone/tablet, just announced today from Hensel http://flashhavoc.com/hensel-nova-d-dl-wifi-support-added/ But the more I think about it, the less appealing this becomes for location work - it'd be like changing shutter speed or aperture via smartphone. Daft really.

I think this is probably the one we have been waiting for Richard, you will probably get it sooner though being a Canon user :)

http://www.diyphotography.net/leake...photo-teases-huge-lcd-interface-lots-buttons/
 
Certainly the one I'm waiting for Tim :)

the X1 certainly became the weak link over time. It's quite difficult to change on the fly as the screen is too small! And I like lots of buttons, it makes people think I know what I'm doing
 
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the X1 certainly became the weak link over time. It's quite difficult to change on the fly as the screen is too small! And I like lots of buttons, it makes people think I know what I'm doing

Have you changed the settings so the scroll wheel is disabled when your changing output Tim ? much better if you do.
 
Have you changed the settings so the scroll wheel is disabled when your changing output Tim ? much better if you do.

Nope but I'll give it a go. Rumour has it this Xpro will be on Amazon in 20-30 days according to Mr Cheetah Stand.
 
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So annoying. A week or so after I ordered my 600, Lencarta are now offering a free X1T trigger, reflector and a bag for the flash free if you purchase the 600. Doh! I had to buy my trigger separately which cost an extra £44. And the bag would of been useful too...:(
 
Pass-through hot-shoe has gone though, for those that like to tinker :)

Edit: and according to Elvis at FlashHavoc, "The current Xpro has dropped the X1 and XT-32 pre-sync timing delay setting..." :(
I would like them to incorporate sequencing of flash groups... sometimes the lights contaminate each other and the easiest solution is compositing a few shots w/ the different lighting elements. With a subject that is likely to move taking the time to manually turn on/off lights between shots is problematic, and it's slower either way. The only triggers I know of that can do this currently are pocket wizards...

I've never had to mess with sync timing... I guess that's one of the advantages of TTL/HSS as opposed to tail sync.
 
I would like them to incorporate sequencing of flash groups... sometimes the lights contaminate each other and the easiest solution is compositing a few shots w/ the different lighting elements. With a subject that is likely to move taking the time to manually turn on/off lights between shots is problematic, and it's slower either way. The only triggers I know of that can do this currently are pocket wizards...

I've never had to mess with sync timing... I guess that's one of the advantages of TTL/HSS as opposed to tail sync.
Id like a take on Canons fake modelling light with speedlites, usefull or not it's so cool
 
Has anyone got this flash? If so, what are your opinions of it? Is it reliable? Any issues that they have? I'm considering of getting one. Many thanks.

I've had this flash for a few months now, the TTL version. I've used it in various modes in a variety of environments and found it works really well and I've had no issues with it.
I'm intending buying at least one more, although next time I'll buy the manual version, not because I find the auto functions not to my liking, more a case that it's pretty handy to have the TTL if using a single head and working fast on the move around a location with greatly varied requirements in terms of lighting. Found the TTL particularly useful when shooting a subject moving around a derelict quarry where all the infrastructure and machinery was still present, I was using a notoriously difficult lens in terms of it nailing focus when working fast and basically had enough on my plate with wind and suitable surfaces to place the stand, and little time. Yes I had some crap shots as well as a lot of usable ones, however lighting wasn't an issue with any of them. I did get the mains pack for it as well so I don't hammer the battery if working where I can access mains power. I also bought the Godox bag for it which is pretty robust and accommodates the head, battery, mains power pack, triggers, 7" reflector with grid and sock diffuser. I also got a USB receiver for it, the same as I use with my Superfast Lencarta heads so I can add this head to my indoor kit and shoot manually with it.
Under ideal conditions I do generally use it manually, not every location shoot provides ideal conditions. The HSS is really cool for working creatively.
 
Not to long for both Nikon and Canon now :)


The Godox Xpro for Nikon Wireless Flash Trigger is available now!
For more, please access to http://www.godox.com/EN/index.html.
 
I'm thinking to get one of these - but see that they come as either a Bowens mount or a Godox mount. Obviously there's a load of Bowens stuff around - not sure about the Godox mount. I currently have no modifiers or softboxes - any recommendations as to which might be the better option?
 
I'm thinking to get one of these - but see that they come as either a Bowens mount or a Godox mount. Obviously there's a load of Bowens stuff around - not sure about the Godox mount. I currently have no modifiers or softboxes - any recommendations as to which might be the better option?

Bowens, no question.
 
I'm thinking to get one of these - but see that they come as either a Bowens mount or a Godox mount. Obviously there's a load of Bowens stuff around - not sure about the Godox mount. I currently have no modifiers or softboxes - any recommendations as to which might be the better option?
Bowens
 
Their is some talk of a new AD600 coming out early in the new year, Edward tang from Cheetah was talking about it on the Godox Facebook members page here

View: https://www.facebook.com/edward.tang.1610/videos/1836778236336509/

Thanks Tel. He's not easy to follow but there's some handy info in there. I love the way he likes to take credit for everything ;)

I think a new Mk2 AD600 will certainly appear soon, to fix a few obvious design flaws. I'm hoping it will reposition the flash tube a couple of cms further forward, double-up on the modelling LEDs like the AD-B2 twin head, improve the tilt lock, and maybe add a handle (y)

BTW, the low-profile Bowens adapter he's selling, that he claims increases output of the AD600 by three-quarters of a stop I think he said (at around 5mins in), is this one - £9 from Amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01EYJOPPS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 My tests showed it increasing brightness by a bit less than half a stop, but that's still a very worthwhile lump of light (compared to the grey alloy mount adapter that usually comes with most softboxes).
 
He seems to be taking a lot of flak over on photography on the net.

Main thing I took away from that video is never chew gum on video. :mad:
 
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