Nikon D750 & D780

-markie- · 12 Sep 2017

AndyFo said:
Joby Pro Sling for me had it about 2yrs now and find it exceptionally good. Tucks away tight on hip but one flick of release frees it to take photos. Mine came with the tether but think this may now be an extra but worth it for peace of mind. The only downside is if you want to remove camera from strap to attach tripod you have to unscrew (by hand7 from the tripod fixing.

thank you for this (i know it's a delayed), added this to my wish list for xmas - i like the tuck away feature.

Craig_85 · 12 Sep 2017

rob-nikon said:
I had to look up what you meant by AEB and I actually learnt something new too! I've been using the exposure bracketing since I got the D750 but always done it manually by pressing the shutter remote cable button each time, now I know how to set up the d750 bracketing and timer to automatically take the whole exposure bracketing set just by pressing the shutter button once. I'm guessing if you use live view that's like using mirror up mode. That's going to make landscapes much easier (it may chew through batteries!).

Absolutely, being able to press the AEB button and then use the command dials to scroll the number of bracketed shots and distance apart is really good. With canon you enter a menu to do this.

With live view you are right, the mirror is locked up and the shots are fired continuously, either by remote or with the timer enabled. The shots are then closer together and movement in the scene or changing light is less of an issue.

The live view does not work quite the same as canon though, I need to test further but it's not quite as good. Better screen than the Sony though, so I'm happy.

snerkler · 12 Sep 2017

Craig_85 said:
Just got my Nikon D750, so far love it!!

It's funny, I've held a Nikon a couple of times before but there is so much tribalism within camera users that you become blinkered to a brand.

I learnt using a fully manual Zenit e SLR, but really for years and years, since film even I've shot Canon. Then a foray into Sony mirrorless. One of the things Canon users would say is the ergonomics of Nikons are not as good as Canon.

Well, I bought the D750 for the image quality and to get back to a DSLRbut honestly the thing that I'm most pleasantly surprised about is the ergonomics. Mainly the way, admittedly using 2 hands, you can access almost anything without taking your eye from the viewfinder. I simply love the AEB activation too!

Look forward to getting out and using it.

99% of the time it's not that one's better ergonomically it's familiarity that people then mistake for ergonomics. That being said I do find Canons (and older Nikons) to have 'squarer' more brick like grips that aren't as comfortable to me. The Sony A77-II, Nikon D500 and D750 are the best cameras I've handled in this regard.

Craig_85 said:
Absolutely, being able to press the AEB button and then use the command dials to scroll the number of bracketed shots and distance apart is really good. With canon you enter a menu to do this.

With live view you are right, the mirror is locked up and the shots are fired continuously, either by remote or with the timer enabled. The shots are then closer together and movement in the scene or changing light is less of an issue.

The live view does not work quite the same as canon though, I need to test further but it's not quite as good. Better screen than the Sony though, so I'm happy.

Nikon live view is pants, something they really need to sort out. Apparently the new D850 isn't bad but Nikon are definitely behind Canon and Sony for this.

rob-nikon · 12 Sep 2017

Craig_85 said:
Absolutely, being able to press the AEB button and then use the command dials to scroll the number of bracketed shots and distance apart is really good. With canon you enter a menu to do this.

With live view you are right, the mirror is locked up and the shots are fired continuously, either by remote or with the timer enabled. The shots are then closer together and movement in the scene or changing light is less of an issue.

The live view does not work quite the same as canon though, I need to test further but it's not quite as good. Better screen than the Sony though, so I'm happy.

Yep the the timer automatically running through the bracket sequence is going to be an excellent improve. The number of times I've accidentally take the first image of the next bracket, I've never thought of using the timer function in this way before.

snerkler · 13 Sep 2017

rob-nikon said:
Yep the the timer automatically running through the bracket sequence is going to be an excellent improve. The number of times I've accidentally take the first image of the next bracket, I've never thought of using the timer function in this way before.

How would you use the timer with bracketing, surely this would increase the time between frames wouldn't it as you'd have to wait for the timer to count down for each shot?

When I bracket I set release to continuous high and keep the remote shutter pressed for the duration of shots. This way my series is taken without delay between shots.

-markie- · 13 Sep 2017

snerkler said:
How would you use the timer with bracketing, surely this would increase the time between frames wouldn't it as you'd have to wait for the timer to count down for each shot?

When I bracket I set release to continuous high and keep the remote shutter pressed for the duration of shots. This way my series is taken without delay between shots.

Nope, doesn't increase the time between frames. Timer is only for the first shot, rest of the shots are immediately after.

snerkler · 13 Sep 2017

markgodley said:
Nope, doesn't increase the time between frames. Timer is only for the first shot, rest of the shots are immediately after.

Does it take the rest of the shots automatically then, ie only need to press the shutter once?

Craig_85 · 13 Sep 2017

snerkler said:
Does it take the rest of the shots automatically then, ie only need to press the shutter once?

Yes it does exactly that. Maybe that's the auto part of the AEB. You get mirror lock up, time delay and continuous shooting all in one.

Craig_85 · 13 Sep 2017

snerkler said:
99% of the time it's not that one's better ergonomically it's familiarity that people then mistake for ergonomics. That being said I do find Canons (and older Nikons) to have 'squarer' more brick like grips that aren't as comfortable to me. The Sony A77-II, Nikon D500 and D750 are the best cameras I've handled in this regard.

Nikon live view is pants, something they really need to sort out. Apparently the new D850 isn't bad but Nikon are definitely behind Canon and Sony for this.

Yes good points about ergonomics. I like canon and the menus, but certainly don't have a problem at all with Nikon. Unlike Sony where the menus are so confusing, although they allow good customisation of the buttons.

With regard the liveview it seems that it always works at the aperture selected, so you get a depth of field preview all the time, like mirrorless. With canon you are at max aperture in liveview until you press dof preview button. On the Nikon that button is only used for the viewfinder?

snerkler · 13 Sep 2017

Craig_85 said:
Yes good points about ergonomics. I like canon and the menus, but certainly don't have a problem at all with Nikon. Unlike Sony where the menus are so confusing, although they allow good customisation of the buttons.

With regard the liveview it seems that it always works at the aperture selected, so you get a depth of field preview all the time, like mirrorless. With canon you are at max aperture in liveview until you press dof preview button. On the Nikon that button is only used for the viewfinder?

With Nikon you turn preview on/off in liveview so it will show exposure changes when on so what you see is what you get just like mirrorless. That being said, I've never noticed the DOF as I only use LV for landscapes and with wide angle lenses you don't tend to see shallow DOF.

Craig_85 · 13 Sep 2017

snerkler said:
With Nikon you turn preview on/off in liveview so it will show exposure changes when on so what you see is what you get just like mirrorless. That being said, I've never noticed the DOF as I only use LV for landscapes and with wide angle lenses you don't tend to see shallow DOF.

Yes that's depth of field preview I am talking about.

Exposure simulation is under the i button which I want to test some more. Whilst you assume that having it on would be a good thing, it can make the foreground areas go very dark which makes focussing hard. Something great on the 5d3 is metering is linked to the little box that you can move around and zoom in with. So it will naturally brighten in semi auto modes or with exposure simulation off. This means it's easy to zoom into foreground, see screen brighten to focus then full screen the view again to meter correctly.

I want to test the d750 but it seems that metering is not linked to the box, unless I need to change that setting somewhere? If not it may be a quick positive compensation adjustment to brighten those areas to focus then correct again before taking the shot...

snerkler · 13 Sep 2017

Craig_85 said:
Yes that's depth of field preview I am talking about.

Exposure simulation is under the i button which I want to test some more. Whilst you assume that having it on would be a good thing, it can make the foreground areas go very dark which makes focussing hard. Something great on the 5d3 is metering is linked to the little box that you can move around and zoom in with. So it will naturally brighten in semi auto modes or with exposure simulation off. This means it's easy to zoom into foreground, see screen brighten to focus then full screen the view again to meter correctly.

I want to test the d750 but it seems that metering is not linked to the box, unless I need to change that setting somewhere? If not it may be a quick positive compensation adjustment to brighten those areas to focus then correct again before taking the shot...

There is a bias towards the AF point on the D750 too when using matrix/wide metering. I personally don't like this for landscapes as I want a true average metering, but it seems like all cameras are going this way. It's a good job they're digital as it can throw exposure off if you're not careful, would have been a nightmare using film if they metered like this. Quite often the area I've focussed on is not a mid tone and therefore I have to change settings accordingly. TBH though, when doing landscapes I use the histogram rather than the meter.

Deleted sulking member 63079 · 14 Sep 2017

rob-nikon said:
I had to look up what you meant by AEB and I actually learnt something new too! I've been using the exposure bracketing since I got the D750 but always done it manually by pressing the shutter remote cable button each time, now I know how to set up the d750 bracketing and timer to automatically take the whole exposure bracketing set just by pressing the shutter button once. I'm guessing if you use live view that's like using mirror up mode. That's going to make landscapes much easier (it may chew through batteries!).

Just put it on CH and lock or hold your remote button down and it stops at the end of the sequence.

snerkler · 14 Sep 2017

KitsuneAndy said:
Just put it on CH and lock or hold your remote button down and it stops at the end of the sequence.

Exactly what I do

Lemaildetom · 14 Sep 2017

Something weird the other day shooting at night (northern light which wasn't really there). I was on auto WB and i noticed that depending on the exposure it would change greatly between 4000 and 7000. But i think it was due to a strong moon and passing cloud which were playing up with the metering system.

T_J_G · 14 Sep 2017

Amelia is obsessed with brushing her teeth at the moment.

Teeth time! by Tim G, on Flickr

Lemaildetom · 14 Sep 2017

T_J_G said:
Amelia is obsessed with brushing her teeth at the moment.

Teeth time! by Tim G, on Flickr

My boy is obsessed with not brushing his teeth at the moment...

photogwannabe · 14 Sep 2017

What a little cutie pie!

Livin The Dream · 15 Sep 2017

T_J_G said:
Amelia is obsessed with brushing her teeth at the moment.

Teeth time! by Tim G, on Flickr

Lovely shot Tim!

I wish my girl was, slowly trying to get he to but it's a battle.

Chuckoir · 15 Sep 2017

Livin The Dream said:
Lovely shot Tim!

I wish my girl was, slowly trying to get he to but it's a battle.

Joseph went through a phase for a couple of months where it was a physical battle to brush his teeth, he seems to be a lot more receptive now, though - keep at it, they'll give in eventually

Anyway, back on topic - I'm looking at picking up a D750 again, now that finances allow. Anyone used Kacha-shop on eBay, before? They seem to be selling them for a smidge over £1k, which isn't much more than I sold mine for 4 months ago!

Graham · 15 Sep 2017

Chuckoir said:
Joseph went through a phase for a couple of months where it was a physical battle to brush his teeth, he seems to be a lot more receptive now, though - keep at it, they'll give in eventually

Anyway, back on topic - I'm looking at picking up a D750 again, now that finances allow. Anyone used Kacha-shop on eBay, before? They seem to be selling them for a smidge over £1k, which isn't much more than I sold mine for 4 months ago!

What's the warranty on it? Panamoz are £1,145.00 and as you know they give you a 3 year warranty.

Chuckoir · 15 Sep 2017

Graham said:
What's the warranty on it? Panamoz are £1,145.00 and as you know they give you a 3 year warranty.

Good point, it's 12 months, and they've just stuck the price up by £25 quid - so for an extra £70 I could go to Panamoz and get the extra couple years warranty...

Graham · 15 Sep 2017

Chuckoir said:
Good point, it's 12 months, and they've just stuck the price up by £25 quid - so for an extra £70 I could go to Panamoz and get the extra couple years warranty...

For the extra bit it's worth it imo and I'd also ask panamoz for a further discount, they normally say yes even if it's £10 or £20, it's worth it.

T_J_G · 15 Sep 2017

Livin The Dream said:
Lovely shot Tim!

I wish my girl was, slowly trying to get he to but it's a battle.

Thanks

wencertainly battled with her but kept her at it. Seriously takes her about 15 minutes now

I definitely need to document more of daily life as opposed to 'proper shots'

Chuckoir · 15 Sep 2017

Graham said:
For the extra bit it's worth it imo and I'd also ask panamoz for a further discount, they normally say yes even if it's £10 or £20, it's worth it.

Cheers, Graham, will give that a shot.

Surprised that second hand prices are still as high as they are, to be honest.

Chuckoir · 15 Sep 2017

T_J_G said:
Amelia is obsessed with brushing her teeth at the moment.

Teeth time! by Tim G, on Flickr

Been out of the loop for a while, so I apologise for not know your current set up, Tim - what lens did you use for this? Lovely shot.

Livin The Dream · 15 Sep 2017

Chuckoir said:
Joseph went through a phase for a couple of months where it was a physical battle to brush his teeth, he seems to be a lot more receptive now, though - keep at it, they'll give in eventually !

T_J_G said:
Thanks wencertainly battled with her but kept her at it. Seriously takes her about 15 minutes now

I definitely need to document more of daily life as opposed to 'proper shots'

I need to persevere!

Daily life shots just get a little 'samey' though after a while. I've hit a small mental block with them at the moment and haven't picked a camera up since holiday (2 weeks) I also think that to keep us snappers interested you find yourself chasing the money shot every time which becomes a drag and stops the camera coming out.

I have a little christening that I am snapping this weekend so something a bit different to look forward to. Also keep thinking that now the weather is getting cooler, I need to get the studio kit out and dust down.

T_J_G · 15 Sep 2017

Chuckoir said:
Been out of the loop for a while, so I apologise for not know your current set up, Tim - what lens did you use for this? Lovely shot.

Thank you, used the Sigma 35 art.

Ed Sutton · 15 Sep 2017

Ed Sutton said:
I make my own prints on a cheap Pixma because I'm impatient. They're good enough for me and when I get it right as good as I've had from a commercial firm (the name of which I forget).

Caveat - I'm not picky!

OK I admit. I was wrong. :coat:

Sort of.

Someone refused to not pay me for a print. Try as I might I couldn't get my printer to make a decent job of it. It does have a tendency to make muddy shadows and the photo was taken in bright sunshine, so very contrasty. Having had a brainwave for sizing the pic in Lightroom (print to file - d'oh!) I sent said file off to Photobox. Got the print back and it's just like the pic on my screen.

Takeaway lesson: For critical stuff get it printed elsewhere, for personal use print at home. I can live with my home prints, and most of the time they're fine for giving away. But if anyone else wants to give me money for a print I'll get it 'lab' printed.

Can't post without a photo. Bloomin' contrasty coated buggers!

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Lemaildetom · 15 Sep 2017

Chuckoir said:
Joseph went through a phase for a couple of months where it was a physical battle to brush his teeth, he seems to be a lot more receptive now, though - keep at it, they'll give in eventually

Anyway, back on topic - I'm looking at picking up a D750 again, now that finances allow. Anyone used Kacha-shop on eBay, before? They seem to be selling them for a smidge over £1k, which isn't much more than I sold mine for 4 months ago!

Thanks! I think it's just because he's got the 4 teeth all coming at once at the moment he don't let us much have a look.

Gosh the prices are crazy i bought mine nearly two years ago, one year old but low actuation and like new for 925£ on this forum. First DSLR which has hold is value like this! Likely thanks to the pound falling.

snerkler · 15 Sep 2017

Ed Sutton said:
OK I admit. I was wrong.

Sort of.

Someone refused to not pay me for a print. Try as I might I couldn't get my printer to make a decent job of it. It does have a tendency to make muddy shadows and the photo was taken in bright sunshine, so very contrasty. Having had a brainwave for sizing the pic in Lightroom (print to file - d'oh!) I sent said file off to Photobox. Got the print back and it's just like the pic on my screen.

Takeaway lesson: For critical stuff get it printed elsewhere, for personal use print at home. I can live with my home prints, and most of the time they're fine for giving away. But if anyone else wants to give me money for a print I'll get it 'lab' printed.

Can't post without a photo. Bloomin' contrasty coated buggers!

I've got a pixma pro and the quality of the prints is second to none. Just need some decent photos now

Ed Sutton · 15 Sep 2017

snerkler said:
I've got a pixma pro and the quality of the prints is second to none. Just need some decent photos now

Mine's Pixma Bargain Basement. Which probably explains things.

I also have a feeling that it's not as good as when I bought it looking at a print I did when it was new and some from yesterday.

photogwannabe · 16 Sep 2017

Riggs in the ring by Paul, on Flickr

From a local dog show; our friend's dog with his handler.

Livin The Dream · 16 Sep 2017

snerkler said:
I've got a pixma pro and the quality of the prints is second to none. Just need some decent photos now

I challenge you to get a print from
DSCL and compare. Such a faff (and expensive!) printing your own, I was losing hair with it. I was using a pixma printer, thought they looked ok but no comparison.

snerkler · 16 Sep 2017

Livin The Dream said:
I challenge you to get a print from
DSCL and compare. Such a faff (and expensive!) printing your own, I was losing hair with it. I was using a pixma printer, thought they looked ok but no comparison.

I'll look into it

. It is a faff getting profiles setup and templates etc, in fact getting colour profiles right took me hours. But now it's done my images look exactly like they do on my screen only better as the printer has a wider colour space. I'll look at prices from DSCL and might very well compare out of interest

Livin The Dream · 16 Sep 2017

snerkler said:
I'll look into it . It is a faff getting profiles setup and templates etc, in fact getting colour profiles right took me hours. But now it's done my images look exactly like they do on my screen only better as the printer has a wider colour space. I'll look at prices from DSCL and might very well compare out of interest

I was never completely happy with my profiles and didn't go the full hog of the colormunki. Lost weeks faffing. Do the test, I'd be interested.

Chuckoir · 16 Sep 2017

Don't forget the lab coat.

wibbly · 16 Sep 2017

Whats the matter with Max Spielman for prints

Livin The Dream · 16 Sep 2017

wibbly said:
Whats the matter with Max Spielman for prints

Nowt, if you're happy with em?

Ed Sutton · 16 Sep 2017

I went looking for sheep to photograph and had my afternoon disturbed by this pair. Had to crop as I'd taken the 70-200 out so it wouldn't feel so neglected. Typical.

Nikon D750 & D780

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