Art Morris leaving Canon for Nikon.......

He has seen the light !
 
Byker28i said:
Andy Rouse went from Nikon to Canon. I think you're reading too much into it. It's whoever gives them the best deal...
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whatever.
 
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Interesting!

Prior to this conversion he was using two off 5D4's and a 1DX11. In his 2017 blog posts he mentioned his poor BiF handling which he put down to aging and the effect on muscle tone etc.

So with (apparent) vast improvement in AF of the Nikon perhaps that mitigates for the handholding BiF issues he had with Canon???

Oh, he said on his blog all his Canon few sold in 4 hours!!!
 
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what he shoots. He produced stunning work with Canon and he'll produce stunning work with Nikon. And most of us won't be able to replicate it no matter what we use.
 
Gaz J said:
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what he shoots. He produced stunning work with Canon and he'll produce stunning work with Nikon. And most of us won't be able to replicate it no matter what we use.
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Such is life.
 
Gaz J said:
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what he shoots. He produced stunning work with Canon and he'll produce stunning work with Nikon. And most of us won't be able to replicate it no matter what we use.
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I agree, he was making amazing stuff with cameras that don't even get a mention these days and are thought of as old rubbish by most now.
 
flavio said:
I can state categorically you are wrong in your assumption. Andy Rouse was with Canon before he went to Nikon and then back to Canon and the reason was not money!

cheers
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Of course it wasn't money. Not lucrative commissions, or tens of thousands of pounds worth of new kit. Outrageous suggestion. It's never been known.
 
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Well that is interesting! We all know Art is a great photographer, he is so great that he has got Nikon long lenses to focus = respect!

I am just an armature photographer but, when I tried the Nikon SuperTeles out (500 F4, 600 F4 and 800 F5.6) I got the Nikon rep to check them out as I thought they were faulty - apparently they weren't. All the Nikon cameras/lenses were newer generation than my 1DX and 800 F5.6 L IS, except the 800mm as there is only one generation, yet I found AF slow and inaccurate and I wasn't even trying moving subjects!

As I said - respect to Art if he can make them work to him - I failed several times. I hope he is happy with his decision - I am sure he has researched the pros and cons.
 
"leaving Canon"? Unless he works for them, is it not just that he has decided to change systems? Why is that a big deal? Isn't it about the photographer, not the gear he uses?

I have never heard of him, just saying in general.
 
I've always thought that Nikons 3D tracking AF was better than Canons. It just seems simpler to use with not so many options. With Canon you have to be prepared to do a bit of trial and error with the settings but once you find the set up that suits you it's very good.

It's obviously a big deal for him but anyone who now thinks "I'm switching too", and there will be people like that, are probably just kidding themselves that their photography is suddenly going to take a huge leap forward.
 
flavio said:
I can state categorically you are wrong in your assumption. Andy Rouse was with Canon before he went to Nikon and then back to Canon and the reason was not money!

cheers
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It wasn't an assumption as I saw him talk at the photography show. One year was Nikon, the next year Canon. He was asked why he changed and said one of the reasons was the 1Dx body, the lenses but also a very favourable trade in and support deal
 
Funnily enough I have been watching his videos on youtube, especially the settings and techniques he uses. He puts across some good points in his teach-ins as well.

Wonder how long it takes for him to do the same teachings for Nikon users ?????
 
Byker28i said:
It wasn't an assumption as I saw him talk at the photography show. One year was Nikon, the next year Canon. He was asked why he changed and said one of the reasons was the 1Dx body, the lenses but also a very favourable trade in and support deal
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Whatever, I didn't make this thread to discuss Andy Rouse.
 
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Having used both systems I would say canon lock on faster but Nikon track better.
 
I was/am not fond of Art... He was(is?) a very opinionated/obtuse person who seemed very adverse to learning/incorporating new technology/capabilities.

From his post: "The funny thing is that I recently figured out — with help from Arash Hazeghi — how to make the most of the AF systems of my 5D Mark IV bodies and especially with my newly replaced EOS-1DX II." It took nearly 35 yrs to understand Canon's AF system??? He was(is?) also one of those people who thinks full manual is the only way to setup/control a camera and other similar things.

But it kind of sounds like he was suddenly hit by all of the advancements at once and he's been star struck. IMHO, the 153pt AF system is not the most amazing thing ever, or the end-all cure for BIF... He'll probably be regretting this in a year or two when Canon updates.
 
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Byker28i said:
OK, but you implied it was about the equipment.

I simply pointed out other equally famous people (like Andy Rouse) switch equipment also due to good deals and opportunities and you stated categorically I was wrong...
Yet I've attended two talks by Andy Rouse where he stated this was the case.

Then try to shut down the discussion when it's pointed out your were mistaken...

http://www.naturephotographysimplified.com/bird-photography/top-bird-photographers-in-the-world/
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Whatever.
 
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I was shooting with someone using a D4S and 300 f2.8 and he was so unhappy with the performance of his gear in terms of keepers that he let a complete stranger he met the next day adjust the AF parameters for him.

Meanwhile my 1DX and 300 f2.8 MkII was rolling out 5 second bursts with 95% keepers.

That's a fact also.

And the strangers set up was even worse. I reset it to factory settings for him and suddenly all was good in the world.

You still need to have an idea of what you're doing. As I said before Nikons AF seems to work better out of the box. This AF case set up that Canon have could be refined from 6 down to 3 and it would probably better for it. Spend some time researching and experimenting and you can improve the Canons performance out of the box. I know of several Nikon users who've screwed up the AF performance by fiddling and I know just as many Canon users who've done the same.
 
I've edited all of my contributions in this thread because I don't want to get into a pointless discussion about who makes the best gear.
I honestly hope everyone is happy with what they use and has success with it.
cheers
 
Ploddles said:
And then the following posts don't make full sense because they refer to things that are no longer in your posts.
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Sorry about that, I was only intending to be the messenger.
cheers
tony
 
Eloise said:
Nothing of course... it’s just Canon who have stopped paying him so now he can use the best. :);)

(Meant in jest of course!)
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Considering that I have used Nikon's best I like your "Jest"!
Love their IQ but blurred is blurred. Were I not a wildlife/bird photographer then my opinion would be different:)
 
To "flavio".

People usually make a big deal of it when a well known photographer changes their gear - I assumed that this was why you started this thread? I don't quite understand your dismissal of Andy Rouse's changing systems after all if Andy's change of system is "Whatever, I didn't make this thread to discuss Andy Rouse." Then what relevance is Art?

If you want to be the messenger then (perhaps) either choose your messages more carefully or keep your head below the parapet? You know there are going to be bullets flying!

Not having a go - just confused as to your responses.
 
twist said:
Plenty of pros seem to manage just fine.
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They certainly do and I have the greatest respect for them - I just don't know how they do it! Having tried Nikon's best I can't, but with my Canon cameras/lenses they just focus so long as I do my part:)

As I said above if my needs were different then my choice of system/gear may be different.
 
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johnf3f said:
They certainly do and I have the greatest respect for them - I just don't know how they do it! Having tried Nikon's best I can't, but with my Canon cameras/lenses they just focus so long as I do my part:)

As I said above if my needs were different then my choice of system/gear may be different.
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You seem to be saying that Art Morris is wrong. Have you done BIFs with a Nikon D5 and big primes, shooting side by side with Canon 1DXii?
 
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