Darts walk on ladies scrapped

I heard this the other day, apparently its "Sexist"!


I say it is too, forcing these lovely ladies out of work :(
 
I think we should all have our eyelids glued over our eyes. This will remove the risk of anyone actually seeing anything and offending somebody :eek:

But then again, some of our other senses will come into play and we'll still run the risk, of offending someone :p
 
So will catwalk models be banned next? The whole sexist thing has got ridiculous. No one is forcing these ladies to do this work are they? I doubt F1 will ban grid girls either.
 
F1...boxing...cheerleaders....who knows?
Yet there are folk on these forums who have complained about pretty ladies on stands at exhibitions.
 
Unbelievable PC at it worst , Were the ladies forced to walk on or have they now lost a paying job ,
What is the world coming to :mad:
 
rick448 said:
So will catwalk models be banned next? The whole sexist thing has got ridiculous. No one is forcing these ladies to do this work are they? I doubt F1 will ban grid girls either.
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Yip, a super looking female is a true delight on the eye. What a nice pleasure.
 
I signed a petition the other day (the wembley fc fight agains the FA) and after signing your reeled through a whole load of other petitions to see if you would like to sign them.. some absoloute tosh out there... bring back the walk on girls was one of them.. i thought it was a joke haha just pressed skip same as rest ...
 
And F1 have announced the same.... totally pathetic.

Will the Americans be banning cheerleaders from their sports, I doubt it because they are not obsessed with this crazy PC world we live in where if one person protests and is 'offended' the rest have to follow.

Still trying to work out what the actual problem is???
 
cambsno said:
Still trying to work out what the actual problem is???
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Trying to protect them by putting them out of work maybe?

Grown women with minds of there own.. let them decide ?
 
seems to me the way the world is going to put pretty girls out of business.
maybe if the walk on girls were right dogs it would be ok?
 
I am sorry to say I am disappointed with the views expressed in this thread. Are you all really saying that not having "grid girls" will ruin the actual sport?

Times move on, We don't need females "competing in the who can get in the tightest lycra" to tell us which /dartsplayer/ driver is which. Why not let sponsors run a competition for people to carry a "who is who board" Could get a wider spread of people, that might actually appeal to a broader audience.
 
munch said:
I am sorry to say I am disappointed with the views expressed in this thread. Are you all really saying that not having "grid girls" will ruin the actual sport?

Times move on, We don't need females "competing in the who can get in the tightest lycra" to tell us which /dartsplayer/ driver is which. Why not let sponsors run a competition for people to carry a "who is who board" Could get a wider spread of people, that might actually appeal to a broader audience.
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Taking them away serves no purpose - people like it and the girls like it, just that a couple of killjoys who probably never watch the sport protest.
 
I don't watch darts, f1 or any other sports where these girls walk on but I have absolutely no issue with this. I assume they're models and as such being in the public eye is a very important part of their work. They could be scouted for who knows what. I think it's madness.
 
cambsno said:
Taking them away serves no purpose - people like it and the girls like it, just that a couple of killjoys who probably never watch the sport protest.
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By the same measure having them there served no purpose.
 
Meant to say if it was all about equality then why not just have men do the boards at mainly female matches? I'm sure plenty of them would be willing.
 
munch said:
By the same measure having them there served no purpose.
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But what is the harm? If they are being paid to carry out their role and presumably are not being held at gunpoint what is the problem? Is it wrong that an attractive person is seen as adding to the spectacle of a sporting event? If people think that removing this from sporting events will mean that physical attractiveness will not be something that others may judge others by, or find attractive then those people are deluded.

We all have our strengths and weaknesses, so why deny an attractive person the opportunity to make a living just because it might be deemed wrong by certain elements of society. Where do we draw the line, do we say that highly intelligent people shouldn't be given jobs over those less academically fortunate or qualified as it's not fair to them. Life is a contest I'm afraid, and you have to use whatever you can to get on. If this is being attractive then good luck to them I say.

I am certainly not condoning any sort of sexual, or indeed any other harassment or discrimination, but in these cases I don't see that this is the case.
 
Phil V said:
:LOL::LOL::LOL:

Spoke too soon it seems.
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Oh dear, never mind! I'm sure they will ban camera operators focusing in on the pretty ladies around the track too... actually I'll shut up about this now. :thinking:
 
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scottduffy said:
It could be said that it certainly furthers their careers by which case it certainly did serve a purpose.
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So every grid girls career has been furthered by being seen on an F1 grid? Sounds like a desperate attempt to justify them to me.
 
munch said:
So every grid girls career has been furthered by being seen on an F1 grid? Sounds like a desperate attempt to justify them to me.
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So tell me the harm they were doing? One of the darts girls said this type of work is 60% of her income. Most fans are happy to see it, they are happy to do it, what is the problem?
 
I am not saying it does harm, just questioning the need. All you seem to be doing is justifying it on monetary terms. Which to me doesn't make much sense.

One race year doesn't make them that much. Don't know much about darts so can't comment on how often they use the same girls.

But what happens to them when the "promoter" thinks they don't look good enough. What happens to all the girls that didn't make it as grid girls did all there careers just stop?

Whilst there may not be any harm in it, where is the justification for it?
 
munch said:
I am not saying it does harm, just questioning the need. All you seem to be doing is justifying it on monetary terms. Which to me doesn't make much sense.

One race year doesn't make them that much. Don't know much about darts so can't comment on how often they use the same girls.

But what happens to them when the "promoter" thinks they don't look good enough. What happens to all the girls that didn't make it as grid girls did all there careers just stop?

Whilst there may not be any harm in it, where is the justification for it?
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Why does there have to be a justification? What is the justification for other people deciding how other people can legally make a living?
 
munch said:
So every grid girls career has been furthered by being seen on an F1 grid? Sounds like a desperate attempt to justify them to me.
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Not what I said mate. Every girl would have been paid though and since that's their job then what's the problem? I've already said I don't watch any sports that have them so no skin off my nose if they're banned or not. Strictly a football man.

I'm sure some have been chosen for other work having been seen. Can't see how it's detrimental to their careers unless of course you care to explain why.
 
It does seem a very late decision for F1, a lot of people will be out of jobs at very short notice ( not just the Grid Girls)
 
munch said:
I am not saying it does harm, just questioning the need. All you seem to be doing is justifying it on monetary terms. Which to me doesn't make much sense.

One race year doesn't make them that much. Don't know much about darts so can't comment on how often they use the same girls.

But what happens to them when the "promoter" thinks they don't look good enough. What happens to all the girls that didn't make it as grid girls did all there careers just stop?

Whilst there may not be any harm in it, where is the justification for it?
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If it was through a decision to cut costs then fair enough but we all know what this is about, a couple of scandals and now we are paranoid about being offensive to someone???

Maybe we should stop people become sports stars then, what happens when promotors/clubs think they aren't good enough and what happens to those who didnt make it as sports stars???
 
munch said:
I am not saying it does harm, just questioning the need. All you seem to be doing is justifying it on monetary terms. Which to me doesn't make much sense.

One race year doesn't make them that much. Don't know much about darts so can't comment on how often they use the same girls.

But what happens to them when the "promoter" thinks they don't look good enough. What happens to all the girls that didn't make it as grid girls did all there careers just stop?

Whilst there may not be any harm in it, where is the justification for it?
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Because it adds some glamour, the fans like it, its part if the occasion like the 180 posters, large amounts of Fosters, fancy dress and the chanting???
 
cambsno said:
If it was through a decision to cut costs then fair enough but we all know what this is about, a couple of scandals and now we are paranoid about being offensive to someone???

Maybe we should stop people become sports stars then, what happens when promotors/clubs think they aren't good enough and what happens to those who didnt make it as sports stars???
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Last point is exactly why the argument above is nonsense. We're all not good enough at something. Unfortunately in my case it's photography !!!
 
I do wish those that want to be overly pc would use the correct terminology, I believe they are referred to promotional models.

Never really seen an issue with them myself, they're being paid to do a job that they've chosen to do.
Guess the next step would be to stop all attractive women being employed in any type of advertising.
 
munch said:
I am sorry to say I am disappointed with the views expressed in this thread. Are you all really saying that not having "grid girls" will ruin the actual sport?

Times move on, We don't need females "competing in the who can get in the tightest lycra" to tell us which /dartsplayer/ driver is which. Why not let sponsors run a competition for people to carry a "who is who board" Could get a wider spread of people, that might actually appeal to a broader audience.
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Don't worry about the fact it will make women unemployed from a job they actually enjoy doing.
 
I knew a couple of "grid girls" a few years back and they loved it. It gave them a nice little earner a few weekends a year and they often came away with goody bags as well (back in the days of 'baccy sponsorship.)
 
PaulF said:
I do wish those that want to be overly pc would use the correct terminology, I believe they are referred to promotional models.

Never really seen an issue with them myself, they're being paid to do a job that they've chosen to do.
Guess the next step would be to stop all attractive women being employed in any type of advertising.
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But why just women? Why not use men, people with disabilities etc in these roles.
 
nilagin said:
Don't worry about the fact it will make women unemployed from a job they actually enjoy doing.
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How are be women going to be unemployed? being a grid girl for an F1 race is hardly a full time job.
 
It paid quite well for the weekend, so I'm told.
 
munch said:
I am sorry to say I am disappointed with the views expressed in this thread. Are you all really saying that not having "grid girls" will ruin the actual sport?

Times move on, We don't need females "competing in the who can get in the tightest lycra" to tell us which /dartsplayer/ driver is which. Why not let sponsors run a competition for people to carry a "who is who board" Could get a wider spread of people, that might actually appeal to a broader audience.
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No it won't however why have they been removed. Is it because someone has said its exploitation and sexist? if so has anyone asked the grid girls if they feel exploited or whether they like the job.

No one bats an eyelid at supermodels on the cat walk at London / Paris / Madrid showing off some new designers minimalist fabric collection that will probably be produced as a one off. Nor is it mentioned at the ratio of male to female models at these shows.
 
munch said:
But why just women? Why not use men, people with disabilities etc in these roles.
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Basically, it's down to promotion and advertising as to why it's mainly women.
I believe men have been used in touring cars on occasions and to quote an ex female model "it was great promotion' the men got most of the attention apparently.

munch said:
How are be women going to be unemployed? being a grid girl for an F1 race is hardly a full time job.
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You don't believe that F1 have an exclusivity clause with the models do you?
They tend to work for agencies and do a lot of promotional work throughout the year for various clients, so yes, if the walk on/grid girls (as people are referring to them) ban is taken up by other sports/events the models will be out of work.
 
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