Beginner Canon Pixma ip8750 B/W prints with a slight blue cast?

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Hello, I'm new here and need a little help. I recently bought A Pixma IP8750 printer and I'm happy with it's performance except for a very slight blue cast on B/W prints, No problems with colour.
I'm using Windows 7 pro, photoshop cc, a new factory calibrated benq BL2420PT monitor and printing mainly on Epson archival, matte paper. I've tried different obvious settings but nothing advanced. Is there a setting/settings to produce neutral tones. Any help would be much appreciated.
 
I had a similar problem with this printer on my iMac. I emailed Canon support and they gave me the various settings I required to achieve an absence of colour cast. It will be different on a Windows machine as iMacs have their own colour control built into the operating system that is very different to Windows so email them and get the settings for your machine.
 
Hello, I'm new here and need a little help. I recently bought A Pixma IP8750 printer and I'm happy with it's performance except for a very slight blue cast on B/W prints, No problems with colour.
I'm using Windows 7 pro, photoshop cc, a new factory calibrated benq BL2420PT monitor and printing mainly on Epson archival, matte paper. I've tried different obvious settings but nothing advanced. Is there a setting/settings to produce neutral tones. Any help would be much appreciated.


Hi & welcome to TP

Firstly I do not print at home so I like to learn about such issues.

The issue of making b&w inkjet prints seems to be a perrenial one but did find this discussion here

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3911670

So on the surmise that you have covered all options to hand then maybe Canon support can throw some light on the matter........but I note from your post that you are using Epson paper with Canon inks(?) it might be worth trying a Canon paper because I surmise Canon support might suggest that as a default position.
 
A bit more information would be handy....

Are you enabling Black and White in the driver (I am on Mac and have that option)

Often inkjet printers, although you are feeding them greyscale information they will use the CMY inks which can lead to casts.

The fact you are using Epson paper may indeed be adding to the problem unless you have specific profile for that paper/ink/printer combination.
 
Do a nozzle check followed by a head clean if necessary as it could be a blocked black, they normally use cyan to give a larger range of blacks.
Check you haven’t double profiled which leads to a magenta or cyan cast so if you are using ps or lr to manage colours make sure colour management is turned off in the printer dialogue.
Paper won’t be an issue if you use the correct profile.
 
Paper won’t be an issue if you use the correct profile.
Epson paper used in a Canon Printer will need a custom profile making...
Check you haven’t double profiled which leads to a magenta or cyan cast so if you are using ps or lr to manage colours make sure colour management is turned off in the printer dialogue.
Very true, the OP needs to outline the steps taken and what settings they are currently using...
 
From what I can see, that printer is a 4 colour one - CMYK (but has 2 blacks, one for text and one for photos). While it's possible (in theory, at least) to create a cast free mono print, it's not easy so almost all will show a slight cast. Some printers have a few greys as well as black and that should give better results for "real" B&W prints with no cast.
 
Thank you for your replies. I emailed Canon support and received a reply with links to the driver settings which don't address the problem as I've already tried the steps, colour settings etc. In my email which was copy of my post I mentioned I was using Epson archival matte paper, there was no mention regarding paper. My reason for using Epson archival matte is because I have almost 200 sheets of A3 and super A3 left over from my knackered Epson 1290. I'm happy with the colour prints with the paper. My printer uses 6 cartridges, pigment black, black, grey and CMY. I edit in PS cc and in the printer PS manages colours. I also set to grayscale. I'll certainly do a nozzle check. Anyone know where i can get a profile for Epson archival matte for my printer, I've looked on Epsons site but can't find anything. Thanks again for helping.
 
........Anyone know where i can get a profile for Epson archival matte for my printer, I've looked on Epsons site but can't find anything. Thanks again for helping.

AFAIK the profiles for papers are based on a specific "paper & inks" combination. As Phil says in post #6 you will need a custom profile! You cannot expect either Epson to profile their papers for use on a Canon printer or vice versa.

Hopefully someone with the Know-How will be able to advise how to obtain or create a custom profile.
 
Custom Profiles for paper can be done by usually the paper supplier, but as you pointed out I don't think Epson would provide profiles for Canon.

However I have found that using Canon Gloss II profile for Epson Glossy paper works OK (I also have a stack of paper I am working my way through)

If you want to create your own Custom Paper profiles then I think it would be a case of getting a Print Calibrator, works like the Monitor Ones.

However if you look up the latest Thomas Heaton video he shows his workflow for printing and the paper he uses plus using profiles.

Out of interest does the OP us Soft Proofing first before sending the image to the printer?

And if so does this show up the "blue cast" as reported.

I also use the same printer but all my black and white are from scanned film, for that they are scanned as 16bit greyscale and like wise printed out as Grey Scale and so far have not had an issue with colour cast.

If your printing as an RGB file then that might give you some colour cast issues??
 
I will take a bit of a punt here and guess that the OP is using printer manages colour so is relying on what is built into the printer/driver for reproduction of colour. I am not familiar with the driver for this printer, or for that matter the Windows OS.

It would be useful when attempting to trouble shoot if more information as to how the print is being produced, i.e. how the conversion to B+W is being made and the steps taken to output to the printer.

Soft proofing will only work when you have a paper/ink/printer profile available...
 
Welcome to TP Lenny!

Anyone know where i can get a profile for Epson archival matte for my printer

I have this problem with Epson paper and I've got an Epson printer! I won't go near it any more - their website is shocking and all I could find were profiles for Epson printers which is just stupid (and I'm not convinced they're any good anyway). Proper paper manufacturers will provide ICC profiles for most printer manufacturers.

How do you know it's a blue cast? Is it your eyesight, or are you comparing it to something? Everyone's eyesight is slightly different, and different papers can represent B&W differently with a combination of print profile, screen calibration, lighting the print is viewed under, paper construction and post processing techniques. Colour imperfections are much harder to spot. This is an example of just paper construction having an effect on the final print (same print, same test conditions, correct profiles). Which one is "right"? It's more a case of "which do I prefer". I mean, this is a photo of a print taken under lamplight, so these are not "right" when I look on screen, but look much better in natural daylight.


Paper Example 2
by Ian, on Flickr

Getting to the bottom of this may take a while - but persevere. Home printing is well worth it.
 
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