The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

A few questions if you guys have a couple moments please:

The A7Rii is £2100 with 400 cashback from Sony, so £1700. Is that a good deal?

How does one get the £400 back and how long does it take?

A7Rii v A7Riii? Why? £3199!!!
 
A few questions if you guys have a couple moments please:

The A7Rii is £2100 with 400 cashback from Sony, so £1700. Is that a good deal?

How does one get the £400 back and how long does it take?

A7Rii v A7Riii? Why? £3199!!!

A7Riii you can use adapted glass via adaptor and get reliable AF-C focus.

Also dual card slots.
 
I have three issues with MFT bodies:
- the good sensors are in large £2K bodies
- not keen on 4:3 aspect ratio
- its a second mount I'll have to buy into

I have a GX80 and I think they're very good value, they have the 16mp sensor. I've just bought a GX9 from the classifieds and although they're more expensive they're not Sony expensive :D and they have the Sony 20mp sensor. I'm not too sure how much of an improvement the 20mp sensor is but even if it's about the same as the 16mp you get the extra mp count too :D

You can of course select various aspect ratios and I used to use 3:2 but for quite a while now I've stuck to 4:3 and actually I prefer 4:3 over 3:2 for portrait orientation.

One reason I have the 2 camera systems is that although being honest I can afford the Sony stuff the bulk and weight of a Sony A7x and a larger lens puts me off but of course with MFT a 9-18mm, 45-150mm or 12-35mm f2.8 are still small lenses and a 17, 25 or 45mm f1.8 is positively tiny :D Some of the equivalent Sony FF lenses are significantly larger and that does put me off as I just don't like big bulky kit.
 
A few questions if you guys have a couple moments please:

The A7Rii is £2100 with 400 cashback from Sony, so £1700. Is that a good deal?

How does one get the £400 back and how long does it take?

A7Rii v A7Riii? Why? £3199!!!

Where did you see it at that price ?
 
Slightly off topic but sort of photo related. I discovered that my wife is the best today, for my birthday I got a few photo guide books, 1 for Peak District (where I live) and ones for Cornwall and Scotland (our next holiday destinations) along with passes to abandon the family for the occasional day to go off exploring, not only this but I also got membership along with an adoption certificate for the Big Cat Sanctuary, she knows how much I love big cats. Can’t wait to book the special members day, so I can go and meet Maya in the fur :banana:
 
A few questions if you guys have a couple moments please:

The A7Rii is £2100 with 400 cashback from Sony, so £1700. Is that a good deal?

How does one get the £400 back and how long does it take?

A7Rii v A7Riii? Why? £3199!!!
Its a much better camera in every shape and form except for IQ which is similar
 
Its a much better camera in every shape and form except for IQ which is similar

Although yes the features etc are a big step above the Rii, surely as to whether it is worth the difference is down to the OP and what he shoots, other than the Pixel Shift, what benefit would the Riii hold over the Rii for a landscape photographer, who doesn’t need fast AF tracking or the extra fps. In fact you could argue that having the Play Memories App on the Rii would be more use than the Pixel Shift which requires all areas of the frame to remain static
 
Although yes the features etc are a big step above the Rii, surely as to whether it is worth the difference is down to the OP and what he shoots, other than the Pixel Shift, what benefit would the Riii hold over the Rii for a landscape photographer, who doesn’t need fast AF tracking or the extra fps. In fact you could argue that having the Play Memories App on the Rii would be more use than the Pixel Shift which requires all areas of the frame to remain static
Buffer rate is another one thats bad but yes for landscape teh r2 is perfect!

TBH f*** GAS!!!
r2 is perfect and i should have stuck with that but gave in to GAS
 
A few questions if you guys have a couple moments please:

The A7Rii is £2100 with 400 cashback from Sony, so £1700. Is that a good deal?

How does one get the £400 back and how long does it take?

A7Rii v A7Riii? Why? £3199!!!

Totally depends what your doing with it, the A7rii is a fine, fine camera still.
The AF on the A7riii is better and there's loads of little improvements that really add up like the better battery, grip, AF stick, dual slots, etc.
But if you don't "need" the better AF the 2 is still a belter.
 
A few questions if you guys have a couple moments please:

The A7Rii is £2100 with 400 cashback from Sony, so £1700. Is that a good deal?

How does one get the £400 back and how long does it take?

A7Rii v A7Riii? Why? £3199!!!

Why is simple, because unlike other manufacturers who simply replace one model with a newer version, Sony like to squeeze every penny out of each model, they also use it as a way to entice new users across from rivals. Let’s suppose you were looking at a first full frame, for £2k you can choose a Canon 6Dii or spend £500 more for a 5d4, based on that £1700 seems a bargain. As to £3200 for the Riii, at launch the Rii was also £3200. All that extra spec for the same money (or less if you take inflation into account)
 
Buffer rate is another one thats bad but yes for landscape teh r2 is perfect!

TBH f*** GAS!!!
r2 is perfect and i should have stuck with that but gave in to GAS

GAS is a b*****, Ive nearly succumbed on a number of occasions, last time I realised that in most of my scenarios the subjects are fairly stationary and for those that aren’t, I would be better with an APSc version of the A9. I also ended up appeasing the GAS by getting the 100-400GM, my current GAS is being caused by the 24-105 f4 G OSS (fortunately nowhere has it in stock)
 
70mm macro on ff... not very useful when there's a 90mm.

The focal length isn't really a problem but everything else about this lens bothers me, it's actually quite large fully extended, it's not cheap and I seriously doubt it will give better image quality than the Sony, so what's the point?

If you're on a budget it's probably outclassed by a Sigma 105mm adapted so no idea why they brought this out when they could have brought out something people would actually want (a cheap wide zoom for example).
 
Front focussing
Does anyone know how this is even possible with mirrorless? The sample pics plainly show it’s front focussing but I didn’t think you could get focus errors?

I have three issues with MFT bodies:
- the good sensors are in large £2K bodies
- not keen on 4:3 aspect ratio
- its a second mount I'll have to buy into
Tbh there’s nothing wrong with any of the Olympus OMD sensors and many of the Pens. 16mp is quite ample the majority of the time and the rest of the performance is only a fraction behind the new 20mp sensor.
 
Does anyone know how this is even possible with mirrorless? The sample pics plainly show it’s front focussing but I didn’t think you could get focus errors?


Tbh there’s nothing wrong with any of the Olympus OMD sensors and many of the Pens. 16mp is quite ample the majority of the time and the rest of the performance is only a fraction behind the new 20mp sensor.

Says mr 46mp d850 ;)
 
I have a GX80 and I think they're very good value, they have the 16mp sensor. I've just bought a GX9 from the classifieds and although they're more expensive they're not Sony expensive :D and they have the Sony 20mp sensor. I'm not too sure how much of an improvement the 20mp sensor is but even if it's about the same as the 16mp you get the extra mp count too :D

You can of course select various aspect ratios and I used to use 3:2 but for quite a while now I've stuck to 4:3 and actually I prefer 4:3 over 3:2 for portrait orientation.

One reason I have the 2 camera systems is that although being honest I can afford the Sony stuff the bulk and weight of a Sony A7x and a larger lens puts me off but of course with MFT a 9-18mm, 45-150mm or 12-35mm f2.8 are still small lenses and a 17, 25 or 45mm f1.8 is positively tiny :D Some of the equivalent Sony FF lenses are significantly larger and that does put me off as I just don't like big bulky kit.

Whoa that's an excellent deal can't believe I missed it! Might have made more sense than my LX100. Oh well... Just stick with what I have

But the stuff I print is generally 6x4 (canon selphy) so 3:2 makes more sense than 4:3 ratio.

Tbh there’s nothing wrong with any of the Olympus OMD sensors and many of the Pens. 16mp is quite ample the majority of the time and the rest of the performance is only a fraction behind the new 20mp sensor.

Nothing to do with megapixels, it's the ISO performance and dynamic range I care about. I don't like using previous gen sensors or buying bodies with them. Same reason I greatly dislike A7II. Not that the sensor is bad it's just previous gen.

Love my Pen F - small, the new sensor and not £2k

Expect the new sensor doesn't seem any better than older ones...
 
May very well look like this...

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/

Anyone interested?

I've been looking forward to this coming out but I'm hard to please...

1. The rumour was it'd have IBIS, it hasn't got it.
2. It's not exactly pretty is it? To me it looks like someone glued it together in a garden shed.
3. The EVF's in the middle.
4. No swivel screen.
5. No built in flash.

Not having a built in flash will probably kill it for me. I know many people see built in flash as the spawn of the Devil but personally I hate the fact that my 5D doesn't have one as I find them useful for fill and snap shots etc and I just don't think I can bring myself to drop well over £1k on a camera without one.

Of course I could carry an external flash but that destroys the portability and would mean missing shots while it's fished out and fitted and personally I hate attention grabbing scene destroying speedlight type things.

So, sadly I'll probably pass on this.

Anyone getting one?
And you never passed on it :D

Sony has come a long way
 
But the stuff I print is generally 6x4 (canon selphy) so 3:2 makes more sense than 4:3 ratio

Nothing to do with megapixels, it's the ISO performance and dynamic range I care about. I don't like using previous gen sensors or buying bodies with them. Same reason I greatly dislike A7II. Not that the sensor is bad it's just previous gen.

For someone so critical of previous generation sensors because of their iso and dynamic range, it seems odd that you generally only print 6x4’s? At that size it must be pretty difficult to really see a disadvantage?
 
For someone so critical of previous generation sensors because of their iso and dynamic range, it seems odd that you generally only print 6x4’s? At that size it must be pretty difficult to really see a disadvantage?

I don't think I said I only print 6x4. I mostly print 6x4 (or rather my wife does for family memories and albums). It makes up about 70% of our prints.

other 25% I print up to A3+ (I also recently brought a A3+ printer for that) and for the remaining 5% I still outsource as and when :)

Also i wasn't critical of previous gen sensor, I still own an A7. Its rather good. Its just that when I buy new I rather get whatever the manufacturer has the best to offer at the time. A7II sensor was clearly not the best sony had at the time because D750 had a better one in it which is from Sony themselves.
 
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I don't think I said I only print 6x4. I mostly print 6x4 (or rather my wife does for family memories and albums). It makes up about 70% of our prints.

other 25% I print up to A3+ (I also recently brought a A3+ printer for that) and for the remaining 5% I still outsource as and when :)

Also i wasn't critical of previous gen sensor, I still own an A7. Its rather good. Its just that when I buy new I rather get whatever the manufacturer has the best to offer at the time. A7II sensor was clearly not the best sony had at the time because D750 had a better one in it which is from Sony themselves.

Fair enough. I’ve got several 18x12 prints around the house, along with two 36x24 canvasses from my old GF1 but I agree that, when pushed, newer sensor tech will give better results in less than perfect conditions.
 
Fair enough. I’ve got several 18x12 prints around the house, along with two 36x24 canvasses from my old GF1 but I agree that, when pushed, newer sensor tech will give better results in less than perfect conditions.

yeah and also just to add better ISO performance is good all round even if someone is only printing 6x4. It means one can shoot silly high ISO, downsize and still retain sharpness while eliminating noise.
 
And you never passed on it :D

Sony has come a long way

:D sure has.... I remember when I bought the original A7...... and look where we are now.
Empty pockets with cheesy grins :D lol

I still have that very same MK1 A7 camera I ordered before they hit the shops :D The made in a garden shed look grew on me and I now quite like it but of all the things I listed I miss the flash the most.

I don't really see any reason to buy a new one, a joystick would be nice, snappier performance would be nice too as would the higher image quality but to be honest apart from the lack of a flash the A7 does just about everything I want.
 
I still have that very same MK1 A7 camera I ordered before they hit the shops :D The made in a garden shed look grew on me and I now quite like it but of all the things I listed I miss the flash the most.

I don't really see any reason to buy a new one, a joystick would be nice, snappier performance would be nice too as would the higher image quality but to be honest apart from the lack of a flash the A7 does just about everything I want.
You seem to be immuned to gas. What's the secret?
 
For someone so critical of previous generation sensors because of their iso and dynamic range, it seems odd that you generally only print 6x4’s? At that size it must be pretty difficult to really see a disadvantage?

Yup.

Look at that 16mp chip GX80 ISO 16,000 picture I posted a few pages back, I don't know what an A3 print of it would look like but after downsizing it's fine for screen use and would probably be fine filling an A4.

I have ISO 25,600 pictures taken with my 1" Panny TZ100 and they're fine for whole picture screen viewing too and would also probably be fine to print quite large as whole pictures.
 
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