New film supplier on the market

so whats the general feeling now they have opened?
i must admit i am a little disappointed. while its great to have more options of supplier most of the film that interests me is slightly cheaper elsewhere and a large amount of the 35mm stock seems to be lomo type gimmicks rather than stock that interests me, this is just my opinion rather than a snub btw
 
Lots of different out of the ordinary film stock on first glance which is good to see but prices of the more popular stuff seem pretty standard on first glance.
 
I place an order for the Cine 50 and the 35mm adapters for 120 (purely out of interest to see what it is like).

I like their website design, clean modern and easy to navigate.
 
I didn't win either. Used my free postage to buy a few rolls of film to try though. I like the site, quite a few different films I might try in the future
 
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Had a quick look. "5x4" in the search box returns 120 Tri-X in single roll and 5 pack; "sheet" returns no matches. I didn't look further, as I don't need any more film at the moment, but my initial impression is that it may be an uphill struggle if you're outside 35mm or roll film sizes.
 
Acros appears under Colour Negative, which is a bit of a shame. Teething problems, I guess!
 
niko said:
so whats the general feeling now they have opened?
i must admit i am a little disappointed. while its great to have more options of supplier most of the film that interests me is slightly cheaper elsewhere and a large amount of the 35mm stock seems to be lomo type gimmicks rather than stock that interests me, this is just my opinion rather than a snub btw
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I think you're gonna get that kind of feeling overall on this forum, I wouldn't imagine the lomo gimmicky stuff is our market tbh, but who knows.
I mean, people do try daft films for the fun of it but essentially we're looking for straight reliable film at a decent price that we'd use regularly, not daft iso 12 colour shifted crinkley stuff that you buy one roll of and never bother again.
We're gradually being pushed towards this stuff due to the increasing expense and unavailability of traditional film.
Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with daft film, if people want to use it its great that its made available, do I want it ?.....err.....not in a million years.
 
joxby said:
I think you're gonna get that kind of feeling overall on this forum, I wouldn't imagine the lomo gimmicky stuff is our market tbh, but who knows.
I mean, people do try daft films for the fun of it but essentially we're looking for straight reliable film at a decent price that we'd use regularly, not daft iso 12 colour shifted crinkley stuff that you buy one roll of and never bother again.
We're gradually being pushed towards this stuff due to the increasing expense and unavailability of traditional film.
Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with daft film, if people want to use it its great that its made available, do I want it ?.....err.....not in a million years.
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Hey everyone! Firstly, thanks SO MUCH for heading over and checking us out since launch. The film photography market is fortunately getting back to a stage where there's room for a few different segments and I'd like to reassure you that we're definitely not just interested in attracting people after the "gimmicky stuff" ;-)

So now that we're live and you've had a chance to pick through our range and prices, I'd love to understand a little bit more about which films you (@niko) have seen "slightly cheaper elsewhere" - and where that is. Our intention is to not be beaten by price on any comparable site or store, so it would be lovely to see if we've missed something. And secondly whether there's any traditional films that you'd like to us list that aren't up there already?

We also want to let people know that there are two things that we didn't have time to implement for launch but have on our to-do list for the coming months:
(1) bulk deals for people loading up on their favourites so it gets cheaper/roll for people who know what they want (that idea came from this thread but unfortunately we couldn't make happen in time for launch)
(2) developing chemicals (anyone on here own their tanks?!) - although the logistics on this one may take us a while to solve, we think it's important for people to have their whole process available in one place

Thanks once more for your engagement. We want all film photographers - regardless of brand/emulsion/format preference - to see us as their preferred shop, so any and all feedback is welcome.

Paul
 
Analogue Wonderland said:
Hey everyone! Firstly, thanks SO MUCH for heading over and checking us out since launch. The film photography market is fortunately getting back to a stage where there's room for a few different segments and I'd like to reassure you that we're definitely not just interested in attracting people after the "gimmicky stuff" ;-)

So now that we're live and you've had a chance to pick through our range and prices, I'd love to understand a little bit more about which films you (@niko) have seen "slightly cheaper elsewhere" - and where that is. Our intention is to not be beaten by price on any comparable site or store, so it would be lovely to see if we've missed something. And secondly whether there's any traditional films that you'd like to us list that aren't up there already?

We also want to let people know that there are two things that we didn't have time to implement for launch but have on our to-do list for the coming months:
(1) bulk deals for people loading up on their favourites so it gets cheaper/roll for people who know what they want (that idea came from this thread but unfortunately we couldn't make happen in time for launch)
(2) developing chemicals (anyone on here own their tanks?!) - although the logistics on this one may take us a while to solve, we think it's important for people to have their whole process available in one place

Thanks once more for your engagement. We want all film photographers - regardless of brand/emulsion/format preference - to see us as their preferred shop, so any and all feedback is welcome.

Paul
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hi paul
amazon, has some cheaper and as i have prime anyway its next day free postage. while prime is a pay for service it does mean prices are good on most films i use. other places have colour plus and the cheap fuji 200 for good prices as well.
 
Well I'm just looking at stuff I'm interested in.
Rather than a direct comparison with what other retailers are doing, after a quick scan I see 35mm slide is.....too expensive, it might as well not be available at the already reducedo_O price of 15 quid a roll, that might be par for the course I dunno, it isn't sustainable and has got to be designed to be that way by the manufacturer.
All I can say is...Precisa, but the battle for slide is already lost it seems.
How come FP4 is more expensive than Delta in 35 and 120, never seen that before.
HP5 is a similarly odd price, in 120 for an extra 80p you can have Delta 400 and no orrible grit.
I shouldn't complain, Delta is my stuff and its cheaper than the cheap stuff....well, what used to be the cheaper option anyway.
The bulk thing is a bit of a miss, I wouldn't just buy 1 roll of film, or a selection, I'd buy in 120 Delta100/400, Across till there's non left, slide but not £15 a roll slide, and Precisa in 35mm, all by the box.
These are what I shoot all the time, 35mm b/w I quite like APX100, but its too expensive, its my cheap substitute for Delta, but for 50p...I'll buy Delta....or more likely buy APX elsewhere.
I don't actually know if my cheap alternatives are expensive or Delta is just cheaper, I'd have to do my research and I'm not doing that pita till I'm ready for a refuel.
And, yeah, its a pita trailing around retailers but they force us to do it by being all over the place with their pricing, they all say they're gonna be the default retailer for the best prices but never are, its the deal they've got this week, next week it could be anything.
 
@joxby - thank you so much for the detailed reply! Lots to digest so I will take my time reading and understanding. Thank you for taking the time
@niko - yes totally understand your point on Amazon and they clearly fulfil a role on certain films. Thank you for your reply!
 
Placed my first order. :)

Not a big one unfortunately as I have quite a stockpile of film at the moment.
 
@Analogue Wonderland just wanted to say I loved your interview on the Sunny 16 podcast a few weeks ago - it's nice to hear someone passionate about film, who is willing to experiment and put in the hard work to raise an online shop up from nothing. Come payday I'll be heading your way for some of the weirder film stocks :)
 
mothdust said:
@Analogue Wonderland just wanted to say I loved your interview on the Sunny 16 podcast a few weeks ago - it's nice to hear someone passionate about film, who is willing to experiment and put in the hard work to raise an online shop up from nothing. Come payday I'll be heading your way for some of the weirder film stocks :)
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That is so kind! Thank you for your message and your support. We're also counting down the days to payday... ;-) so we'll see you shortly!
 
joxby said:
Well I'm just looking at stuff I'm interested in.
Rather than a direct comparison with what other retailers are doing, after a quick scan I see 35mm slide is.....too expensive, it might as well not be available at the already reducedo_O price of 15 quid a roll, that might be par for the course I dunno, it isn't sustainable and has got to be designed to be that way by the manufacturer.
All I can say is...Precisa, but the battle for slide is already lost it seems.
How come FP4 is more expensive than Delta in 35 and 120, never seen that before.
HP5 is a similarly odd price, in 120 for an extra 80p you can have Delta 400 and no orrible grit.
I shouldn't complain, Delta is my stuff and its cheaper than the cheap stuff....well, what used to be the cheaper option anyway.
The bulk thing is a bit of a miss, I wouldn't just buy 1 roll of film, or a selection, I'd buy in 120 Delta100/400, Across till there's non left, slide but not £15 a roll slide, and Precisa in 35mm, all by the box.
These are what I shoot all the time, 35mm b/w I quite like APX100, but its too expensive, its my cheap substitute for Delta, but for 50p...I'll buy Delta....or more likely buy APX elsewhere.
I don't actually know if my cheap alternatives are expensive or Delta is just cheaper, I'd have to do my research and I'm not doing that pita till I'm ready for a refuel.
And, yeah, its a pita trailing around retailers but they force us to do it by being all over the place with their pricing, they all say they're gonna be the default retailer for the best prices but never are, its the deal they've got this week, next week it could be anything.
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By all accounts margins on film are low so I'd imagine retailers are scrabbling around to make a niche for themselves by taking hits on some film whilst making more money on others. Unless you're someone like Boots who's charging £7 for Fuji C200 to keep margins healthy. That'll explain some of the pricing I guess.

Re Fuji in particular they have reputation of not being easy to deal with in the UK. According to an interview with Sunny 16, AG had to have a personal introduction from an Ilford director to get a reasonable rate for supply of their film. So it doesn't surprise me to see that Fuji stuff is more expensive across the board at Analogue Wonderland than somewhere like AG.
Coupled with Fuji are the sole supplier of E6 film at the moment, and according to the rumour are just selling their remaining stockpile. They can charge what they like I guess.
The price for Pro 400h is more baffling when it's nearly half as much again as Portra 400. Who buys that stuff ?
 
Ste_S said:
The price for Pro 400h is more baffling when it's nearly half as much again as Portra 400. Who buys that stuff ?
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A lot of wedding photographers who I know of who have been shooting for years on Fuji Pro400H and prefer it over Portra for whatever reason. They deliver high amounts of images per wedding too so their business is fairly dependant on it. I wonder what they will do if the rumours are true and Fuji are simply selling off all remaining stock.
 
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A lot of wedding photographers who I know of who have been shooting for years on Fuji Pro400H and prefer it over Portra for whatever reason. They deliver high amounts of images per wedding too so their business is fairly dependant on it. I wonder what they will do if the rumours are true and Fuji are simply selling off all remaining stock.
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Shoot Portra like everyone else I guess. Kodak has a few holes to fill for stuff that'll be left by Fuji, off topic but I'd like from Kodak :-

35mm/120 - Ektar 400, 800.
35mm Ultramax 800 (just sell the stuff you're selling to Lomography already)
35mm/120 Ektachrome
Any consumer 120 colour film - Colorplus, Ultramax etc
 
Ste_S said:
The price for Pro 400h is more baffling when it's nearly half as much again as Portra 400. Who buys that stuff?
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I'm really not following this sentence. I think that you're trying to say that you're surprised that 400H costs twice as much as Portra 400 and you aren't sure who is buying it. That said, the precise wording of the sentence, from my reading, actually states the opposite (i.e., that 400H is half the price of Portra and you aren't sure who is buying Portra).

What is further confusing me is that 400H is available in the UK, at least in 120 format, at similar prices to Portra 400 (in fact, 400H is ordinarily cheaper by a few pounds at present), so I really have no idea what is going on?

I'm guessing you must be talking about 135 format?

At any rate, I use 400H all the time and my fridge is full of Fuji 160NS and Fuji 400H. Great films. I don't want to see either go and will support them while they are here, although, to be honest, there really isn't much of a difference in the results between the Fuji and Portra films. Most people can't tell the differences between these films anyway (e.g., https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/threads/can-you-guess-the-film-stock.558053/)

gazmorton2000 said:
A lot of wedding photographers who I know of who have been shooting for years on Fuji Pro400H and prefer it over Portra for whatever reason. They deliver high amounts of images per wedding too so their business is fairly dependant on it. I wonder what they will do if the rumours are true and Fuji are simply selling off all remaining stock.
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As I've suggested above, most people can't really tell the difference between these films. They are, after all, both engineered to render good skin tones for portraits. Although I too have a preference for 400H, it's not really going to impact me that much if I were forced to only use Portra 400.
 
skysh4rk said:
As I've suggested above, most people can't really tell the difference between these films. They are, after all, both engineered to render good skin tones for portraits. Although I too have a preference for 400H, it's not really going to impact me that much if I were forced to only use Portra 400.
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Yeah, I know we have discussed this before. I tend to lean towards Portra (400 & 800) and rarely use 400h, although I have a few rolls of it left in 35mm. My comments were mainly about the people like Jose Villa who shoot literally hundreds of rolls per year and have a specific look that they have worked with the lab to create. I bet that would take some readjusting for those folk.
 
gazmorton2000 said:
Yeah, I know we have discussed this before. I tend to lean towards Portra (400 & 800) and rarely use 400h, although I have a few rolls of it left in 35mm. My comments were mainly about the people like Jose Villa who shoot literally hundreds of rolls per year and have a specific look that they have worked with the lab to create. I bet that would take some readjusting for those folk.
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It's possible that Jose Villa himself might be able to see subtle differences between the results in these films, but his "look" is about more than simply his film choice (e.g., composition, light, scanning, exposure, etc.).

I don't see that a switch to Portra 400 would really make him less desirable with his clients or significantly change his aesthetic.

I would hope that it's an adjustment that he won't have to make for some time, however.
 
skysh4rk said:
I'm guessing you must be talking about 135 format?
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Correct

skysh4rk said:
Great films. I don't want to see either go and will support them while they are here, although, to be honest, there really isn't much of a difference in the results between the Fuji and Portra films. Most people can't tell the differences between these films anyway (e.g., https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/threads/can-you-guess-the-film-stock.558053/)
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I can tell the difference between film stocks when I'm shooting them in the same location under similar conditions.
Eg Fuji saturates greens/blues, Kodak saturates yellows/reds. Ektar and Portra are similar with green, but Ektar saturates red more than Portra. I can absolutely tell which are Portra and Ektar in those conditions.

Shoot in differing conditions with different film stocks, and yeah I'll probably have trouble telling the difference between equivalent films.
 
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I've placed a couple of separate orders now - they always seem to turn up within 4-5 days :)
 
I ordered a couple of rolls of 127 for the baby Rollei last week from Mr Cad. Ordered at 14.00 and arrived the following day, very impressed.
 
Great service again from Analogue Wonderland.

Got some Portra 400 and Ektar 100 in 35mm for my holidays.
 
Amazing film selection there! I might start to try few different films, not really adventurous lately!
 
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