The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

Bigfungun said:
Very interesting findings.
How did you find the IQ comparison between the Sony 85mm f1.8 and the Sigma Art @ the f2 to f2.8 range?
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At f2 they are all pretty equal tbh. You might find some differences at extreme corners at 200% but IMO that's equal to hardly any difference in real world use.
 
I fricking hate this Sony A73.

The more I use it, the more i review the images taken from it, the more it makes me despise my Canon. I really don't want to think about it but the thought that "the Canon will probably miss focus this by a fraction" keep creeping into my head.

I am just getting so many more keepers with the A73. SO MANY MORE! (much less frustration)

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Raymond Lin said:
I fricking hate this Sony A73.

The more I use it, the more i review the images taken from it, the more it makes me despise my Canon. I really don't want to think about it but the thought that "the Canon will probably mis focal this by a fraction" keep creeping into my head.

I am just getting so many more keepers with the A73. SO MANY MORE! (much less frustration)

50/1.4CZ

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80/1.2L

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Yeah, it can be hard going back to using the DSLR after using mirrorless so much!
 
Raymond Lin said:
I fricking hate this Sony A73.

The more I use it, the more i review the images taken from it, the more it makes me despise my Canon. I really don't want to think about it but the thought that "the Canon will probably miss focus this by a fraction" keep creeping into my head.

I am just getting so many more keepers with the A73. SO MANY MORE! (much less frustration)

50/1.4CZ

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80/1.2L

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I had money in my hand when I walked into camera shop to by a new 6D mkii... And just before I handed over the cash, I realised I'd be stupid to not invest only £350 more for twice the camera.
Going through my photos and seeing what you've just said makes me so happy that I went with Sony.. Because its not IF the Canon misses focus.. It's WHEN, it's not your fault, it just is what it is
 
Sidney77 said:
I had money in my hand when I walked into camera shop to by a new 6D mkii... And just before I handed over the cash, I realised I'd be stupid to not invest only £350 more for twice the camera.
Going through my photos and seeing what you've just said makes me so happy that I went with Sony.. Because its not IF the Canon misses focus.. It's WHEN, it's not your fault, it just is what it is
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And I have two 5D4…not the AF in the 6D2.

Grant, using Dual Pixel AF to shoot, focus is very accurate but through the viewfinder, it is not, it just often has a mind of its own. I am not saying the Sony doesn't miss and there are situations where it just decides not to focus but most of the time it just misses a LOT less.
 
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Sidney77 said:
I had money in my hand when I walked into camera shop to by a new 6D mkii... And just before I handed over the cash, I realised I'd be stupid to not invest only £350 more for twice the camera.
Going through my photos and seeing what you've just said makes me so happy that I went with Sony.. Because its not IF the Canon misses focus.. It's WHEN, it's not your fault, it just is what it is
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Since using the A7r2 this was my feeling too and said many years ago how even the a7r2 got more keepers then my Canon 5d3.

Mirrorless tech just makes AF more accurate and now, as fast if not faster then a dslr now.

I think the A7mk3 is the D750 sequel it seems.

Ridiculous amount of feature/performance for the price and had i not have an a7r3 or a9 i would have got it myself too.

Anyways, does anyone know when the sigma 104 f1.4 is coming out from sigma e mount?
 
RPhotos said:
nice one jonney, how did you find the af with the a7s and the sony glass? not tried any sony glass on mine yet and the af with the canon glass mc-11 in this sort of lighting is some what pedestrian
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AF was ok, not as quick as my 5d3 but usable for static shots, Not so much for anything that moves due to it being contrast detect only

stevelmx5 said:
Good to see high ISO performance from the S but was the guy orange or just the usual Sony low light white balance ;0)
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usual sony orange!
 
jonneymendoza said:
Since using the A7r2 this was my feeling too and said many years ago how even the a7r2 got more keepers then my Canon 5d3.

Mirrorless tech just makes AF more accurate and now, as fast if not faster then a dslr now.

I think the A7mk3 is the D750 sequel it seems.

Ridiculous amount of feature/performance for the price and had i not have an a7r3 or a9 i would have got it myself too.

Anyways, does anyone know when the sigma 104 f1.4 is coming out from sigma e mount?
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Don't quote me but the back if my mind has October 2018?

Plenty of time to save up for it yet, I need to spread it out between my 35/1.4 CZ (This week!)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qOeZksLJ3I


"later on this year"

Most of the others will be out by July.
 
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Just a little picture of Mrs Woof Woof, I like this picture :D

A7 with Minolta Rokkor 35mm f2.8 MC.

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It is IMO a lovely old cheap lens and if it and others like it would mount straight onto my A7 I'd be very happy :D
 
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Why is Sony so adamant on stop down focussing in AF-C!? looks like A7/Riii does the same :banghead::mad:
 
***** On Camera Flash *****
Just curious to what people use for on camera flash, I know Sony use a different hot shoe connector so finding 3rd party isn't easy and I'm struggling to find something that isn't so massive on top of the camera.
Looking for something with HSS.
 
Sidney77 said:
***** On Camera Flash *****
Just curious to what people use for on camera flash, I know Sony use a different hot shoe connector so finding 3rd party isn't easy and I'm struggling to find something that isn't so massive on top of the camera.
Looking for something with HSS.
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I use the Godox tt350s which works well and isn’t too big. Others use the Nissin i40
 
Raymond Lin said:
I fricking hate this Sony A73.
The more I use it, the more i review the images taken from it, the more it makes me despise my Canon. I really don't want to think about it but the thought that "the Canon will probably miss focus this by a fraction" keep creeping into my head.
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I mentioned it before, only a matter of time before you completely move to Sony and get rid of your Canon gear :D
 
It doesn't.its fixed on the R3 and also the latest fw for R2.

I've tested it and shoot in lowlight studio conditions and I was the first to moan about it a few years ago.

Make sure you disable live view effect off
nandbytes said:
Why is Sony so adamant on stop down focussing in AF-C!? looks like A7/Riii does the same :banghead::mad:
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T_J_G said:
Buy!
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I have three 85mm lenses and a 45mm for MFT and I'm struggling to remember the last time I used any of them so very tempting though that deal is the fact is that for me it's just gas and not a need.
 
There's a bit on DPR about what Canikon should do with their mirrorless offerings...

https://www.dpreview.com/opinion/09...tm_medium=marquee&utm_campaign=traffic_source

This bit caught my attention...

"Demands (including from us) for more battery life, along with the need to handle and act as a like-for-like DSLR replacement has led to mirrorless cameras getting progressively larger. This has helped create a generation of cameras that are nearly as big as their DSLR rivals. And, with the exception of better video implementation and the mixed blessings of electronic viewfinders, little else to set them apart.

So what do you propose?
Essentially, I'm asking for a full frame, interchangeable lens Fujifilm X100. Ok, that might not sound much like an X100, but the common thread is of something relatively small, that by design, doesn't try to do everything. A camera that will sit happily alongside your existing camera (mirrored or not)."

But don't we have that already, near enough? The A7 is only about half the EVF hump taller than the X100 and arguably and IMO not significantly bigger in any direction as I wouldn't want either a X100 or A7 in my trouser pocket so once the decision is made to use a small bag the difference in size between any of the smaller cameras becomes IMO insignificant.

Anyway. It's there to read if anyone wants to.

Size comparator thingy for X100 v A7...

https://camerasize.com/compact/#487.394,133,ha,b
 
woof woof said:
There's a bit on DPR about what Canikon should do with their mirrorless offerings...

https://www.dpreview.com/opinion/09...tm_medium=marquee&utm_campaign=traffic_source

This bit caught my attention...

"Demands (including from us) for more battery life, along with the need to handle and act as a like-for-like DSLR replacement has led to mirrorless cameras getting progressively larger. This has helped create a generation of cameras that are nearly as big as their DSLR rivals. And, with the exception of better video implementation and the mixed blessings of electronic viewfinders, little else to set them apart.

So what do you propose?
Essentially, I'm asking for a full frame, interchangeable lens Fujifilm X100. Ok, that might not sound much like an X100, but the common thread is of something relatively small, that by design, doesn't try to do everything. A camera that will sit happily alongside your existing camera (mirrored or not)."

But don't we have that already, near enough? The A7 is only about half the EVF hump taller than the X100 and arguably and IMO not significantly bigger in any direction as I wouldn't want either a X100 or A7 in my trouser pocket so once the decision is made to use a small bag the difference in size between any of the smaller cameras becomes IMO insignificant.

Anyway. It's there to read if anyone wants to.

Size comparator thingy for X100 v A7...

https://camerasize.com/compact/#487.394,133,ha,b
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Blinded by the light (badge), the X100 is considerably more compact than the A7 when you take the lens into account, and is quite a bit lighter, the X100 will easily slip into many jacket pockets, yes I know you are getting FF on the Sony but you really are not comparing like for like.
 
Mr Perceptive said:
Blinded by the light (badge), the X100 is considerably more compact than the A7 when you take the lens into account, and is quite a bit lighter, the X100 will easily slip into many jacket pockets, yes I know you are getting FF on the Sony but you really are not comparing like for like.
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Are you, do try and see past it :D

I don't see the Fuji as being considerably more compact but if you do I'm happy for you and your jacket pocket. I'd describe all of this sort of camera as just about winter coat pocketable rather than jacket pocketable but I wouldn't do it. I do have a GX80 which is a an EVF hump shorter than my A7 but otherwise not significantly different. I wouldn't put any of these cameras in a jacket pocket and instead I put them in a small bag and the differences are therefore minimal to me. YM obviously does V :D
 
Mr Perceptive said:
Blinded by the light (badge), the X100 is considerably more compact than the A7 when you take the lens into account, and is quite a bit lighter, the X100 will easily slip into many jacket pockets, yes I know you are getting FF on the Sony but you really are not comparing like for like.
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Surely a better comparison in size to an A7 is an APS-C DSLR like a Canon 200D as that offers the same lens flexibility as an A7 and also has the same sized sensor as the X100. In comparison, the X100 is a fixed lens, leaf shutter camera so nothing like a DSLR or an A7.

If you put an equivalent fixed lens leaf shuttered full frame camera alongside the X100 it looks huge ;0)

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I'm just surprised that anyone would put a camera of this sort of size in a "jacket" pocket but I suppose a lot hangs on your definition of jacket and if you're a Yeti with no interest in how your clothes hang or more normally sized and don't want your jacket pulling to one side.
 
stevelmx5 said:
As you can see, the A7 is pretty tiny considering the technology inside.
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I don't know if anyone could do an interchangeable lens FF camera much smaller than an A7 and if they did people would only complain that it felt like a toy and the buttons are too small.

I suppose it could be smaller if it didn't have an evf or maybe just didn't have the hump, something like the relatively small field sequential evf Panasonic use or a pop up jobbie like the RXx has could cut the size too.
 
jonneymendoza said:
It doesn't.its fixed on the R3 and also the latest fw for R2.

I've tested it and shoot in lowlight studio conditions and I was the first to moan about it a few years ago.

Make sure you disable live view effect off
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Not according to dpreview. I believe them over you. Definitely not fixed in R2 I know because I own one
 
woof woof said:
I don't know if anyone could do an interchangeable lens FF camera much smaller than an A7 and if they did people would only complain that it felt like a toy and the buttons are too small.

I suppose it could be smaller if it didn't have an evf or maybe just didn't have the hump, something like the relatively small field sequential evf Panasonic use or a pop up jobbie like the RXx has could cut the size too.
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The RX1 is pretty tiny as the body is essentially just large enough to contain the sensor/LCD and popup EVF. The lens is purpose designed to have as small a flange depth as possible whilst still covering the entire sensor (as with the X100). If photographers' want the flexibility of interchangeable lenses with IS etc, we need to accept physics and the glass involved.

I have put my A7 with 50/1.8 into a large winter coat pocket but generally either hold it in my hand (I just use a Velcro finger loop rather than any other strap) or clip it to my Capture Clip if I want my hands free.
 
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stevelmx5 said:
The RX1 is pretty tiny as the body is essentially just large enough to contain the sensor/LCD and popup EVF. The lens is purpose designed to have as small a flange depth as possible whilst still covering the entire sensor (as with the X100). If photographers' want the flexibility of interchangeable lenses with IS etc, we need to accept physics and the glass involved.

I have put my A7 with 50/1.8 into a large winter coat pocket but generally either hold it in my hand (I just use a Velcro finger loop rather than any other strap) or clip it to my Capture Clip if I want my hands free.
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I wouldn't describe myself as being tiny or overly fashion conscious but I'd only put any interchangeable lens camera into the pocket of a large winter coat. Yes, some would fit into a "jacket" pocket but they'd pull and annoy me so I wouldn't do it. I mainly use a small Lowepro 100AW...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lowepro-Sh...qid=1527075795&sr=1-2&keywords=lowepro+100+aw

or a man bag which will also carry other stuff.

I only have two interchangeable lens cameras now, the A7 and GX80 and with a 35mm or equivalent prime either fit in the 100AW.
 
Mr Perceptive said:
No but I don't go around deriding other cameras at (almost) every opportunity, everything has its place. :D:p:D
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And neither do I so don't even think about implying I do. If you want to imply it please put up or shut up.
 
woof woof said:
And neither do I so don't even think about implying I do. If you want to imply it please put up or shut up.
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OK Alan, I apologise what I said was over the top (I'm a bit grumpy today, and that's no excuse), but you have regularly whether in jest or not had a pop at Fuji (basing your experience on an older camera you didn't get on with and what you've read on the internet), you only have to search for posts by you containing Fuji to see this, I just find it tiresome, and today I snapped.

Sorry.
 
nandbytes said:
Not according to dpreview. I believe them over you. Definitely not fixed in R2 I know because I own one
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No but why would I want to do that. It's just silly and a kludge of a workaround! I might as well buy a DSLR if I have to set that off. a-mount works perfectly well with EVF which shows simulation of live exposure while still doing AF-C wide open and only closing down to take the shot. In fact a-mount lenses via. LA-EA4 seem to work this too. Why not native lenses!
 
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I owned one too and it's fixed in fw4 or whatever the last one is!

Doesn't remain stopped down to whatever appature set like before and I've tested it and shoot on a studio with just a modelling lamp on shooting at f8 mate.
nandbytes said:
Not according to dpreview. I believe them over you. Definitely not fixed in R2 I know because I own one
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Good luck seeing anything with live view settings on inside a studio
nandbytes said:
No but why would I want to do that. It's just silly and a kludge of a workaround! I might as well buy a DSLR if I have to set that off. a-mount works perfectly well with EVF which shows simulation of live exposure while still doing AF-C wide open and only closing down to take the shot. In fact a-mount lenses via. LA-EA4 seem to work this too. Why not native lenses!
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